September 18th, 2012

Evan Harris Actually on Drugs

If you missed the much-maligned Professor David Nutt on Radio 4 this morning, then Guido would highly recommend catching up on the interview here. His research into using drugs like ecstasy and magic mushrooms to treat depression or to allow victims of trauma to open up about their experiences was fascinating. It’s now emerged that former LibDem MP Evan Harris will be taking party in Nutt’s Channel Four show which will look at the effects of MDMA. The usual crowd are shocked and appalled that a former MP will be dropping a bean live on TV. Guido had always presumed Evan Harris was on drugs anyway…


  1. 1
    Mongali the Commie says:

    Ecstasy I believe will help people with trauma. It has a down side if over used.


  2. 2
    Kebab Time says:

    What he does to his body is his choice, as long as he does not lecture me on what to do with my body.


    • 175
      Kebab Time says:

      Missed getting first by seconds – if I am in the security booth, and not on fence duty, I will get to 1000 tomorrow. I am going to recount the archives before I claim it. :)


    • 199
      Forkbender says:

      Moddy Botty seems to have gone to sleep or is he on a trip


      • 202

        This is a Neo day. Late.

        You can tell he hasn’t got kids. Mind you, the way he is going…


        • 207
          jgm2 says:

          If he’s looking for inspiration – here’s a thoroughly shit idea that wants kicking into touch…

          The government-backed “business bank” planned by Vince Cable will need £40bn to successfully boost lending to UK firms

          Imagine. Creating a government-backed (ie politically controlled) bank that will be responsible for ‘championing’ various ‘investments’.

          It has ‘5bn quid carrier contract in Labour constituency’ written all over it.


  3. 3
    Thick Leftie says:

    All drugs should be legal. And free.
    send ‘em round with the bennies.


  4. 4
    • 157
      Nothing new under the sun says:

      Is this the same Eminem whos family life was so utterly fucked tnat he went on a burger king bender and grew as fat as fuck , as fat as Elvis even. Funny that.


  5. 5
    Chuka Urmunneyaround says:

    Ma man !!!!


  6. 6
    Gove levels says:

    Guido, who having previously profited from drugs, is now taking the shilling from a por.nographer who fires editors who publish pictures that Guido thinks should be readily available but lacks the nuts to publish himself, hiding behind an internet ‘survey’

    integrity is his byword.

    or not.


    • 8
      Someone has a chip and its not presclott. says:

      Yawned my arse off reading that.
      Was there a point? I drifted off halfway through thinking about nothing in particular.


    • 10
      David Cameron Is A Cunt says:

      Oh do fuck off back to LabourList you tosser.

      Thank you.


      • 94
        Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

        I like Labour no more than you but sometimes the truth hurts eh? But I guess you are a stranger to the concept.


    • 11
      nellnewman says:

      Couldn’t you have put a couple of full stops in somewhere to make some shorter sentences. That sounded like pure obscure edmilibandese.


    • 22
      Twat Watch says:

      A brilliant summary of what you would do differently if you were someone you’re not.

      Let’s see your blog where you do better..

      Er, you don’t have one? Why not?


      • 75
        Gove aka Pob says:

        Shockingly some people don’t think having the hobby job of running a blog whilst living off their wife’s earnings to be the pinnacle of human achievement.

        Go figure


    • 33

      No one is forced to come here, you included.


      • 50
        AC1 says:

        I think you should offer him the traditional refund.


      • 98
        Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

        I normally find your comments relevant and funny Cat – but why should Gove Levels be less entitled to come on here and state an obvious truth than some of the half wits who can only offer obscenity and insult?


        • 124

          I appreciate your kind comments. I am completely in agreement with your description of certain posters as half-wits, indeed you may be being needlessly over-generous here.

          My feeling, and I only claim to speak for myself, is that this is our host’s site, that he is just as entitled to a past as any of us and that such past (whether described accurately or not) is irrelevant to our current proceedings.

          My purpose was not to keep Gove Levels away but rather to express surprise that he should moan about such things as he did. Presumably he has lead a completely virtuous life in his entire past which, incidentally, renders him totally unlike myself.


        • 128
          Blowing Whistles says:

          Umm – the last two comments are very interesting indeed. Seems we can all agreee on some issues but get rather heated with other ones. Lively discussion – I love “Freedom of Expression” – it the new cool.


    • 57
      Forkbender says:

      You do like winding this lot up don’t you


      • 78
        Ebonezer Nell says:

        Cant decide whether this love fest for Guido is Sychopathy or Schizophrenia. Are you sure dropping E had no long term effect ?


  7. 7
    Relationship councillor says:

    Hi..welcome to Red-Ed-Relationships. I’m Ed Moribund.

    Today we’re going to talk about feelings. How do you feel about your relationship with the labour party? A bit let down? Still about grumpy over the time we elected that oaf brown and let him ruin everything? That’s fine. I want you to share your feelings with us so we can all work through them and then we can move on with our “New Redationship.”

    So, please, into the comments. Tell us how you feel about Labour. The economy. The Unions. The Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Transport..42 days detention. Bigoted old women..or even..Ed Miliband..let it all out in our new ‘Redationship scream and shout at the monitor’ therapy.

    And remember.

    We’re not here to blame anybody. Its no single individual’s fault that we are all in this current financial and social mess.

    Except Thacher’s, obviously.


    • 12
      nellnewman says:

      LOL! Very apt.


    • 17
      I voted fot David {Davis and Miliband} says:

      Ed- you’re so mongy stupid market, you don’t even know it.


    • 27
      A Ming Vase says:

      According to someone on the internet, the word “relationship” first appeared in 1744, but was not applied “specifically of romantic or sexual relationships” until 1944. This was four years after Ed Miliband’s father turned up in Britain, a country which he owed his life to but promptly set about undermining at every turn. I wonder if being an ungrateful back stabber is genetic or something that is learned from one’s relations? David Miliband might have a theory or two about that.


      • 46
        Really? says:

        The Miliband grandparents were similarly involved in undermining ‘their’ former adopted country, on behalf of communist Russia. Some things really are in the genes it seems.


    • 99
      Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

      Methinks that probing the fraternal relationship may be more interesting.


  8. 9
    Relationships are private and not for public consumption says:

    Fuck off


    • 14
      RED ED - SON OF BROWN says:

      How else can we improve Libor’s client state ?

      A copy of this Grand Plan will be pre-distributed (sic) over the interweb thingy.


  9. 13
    I want a divorce from socialist meddling scum. says:

    Ecstasy has been known to treat certain cancers in rats. However the doses needed to treat humans is too toxic.


  10. 15
    John D Monkey says:

    I always laugh at the mental image of a journalist or politician with a scotch in one hand and a cigarette in the other lecturing people about taking drugs…


    • 24
      I want a divorce from socialist meddling scum. says:

      Alcohol is a dangerous substance and causes misery to many in society.


      • 56
        Really? says:

        Alcohol is not a dangerous substance at all, if it was millions of people would die from it’s consumption every year in this country alone.
        Just because a tiny number of it’s users abuse it, does not make it dangerous. Alcoholics like junkies, have serious personality disorders that make contact with any substance potentially dangerous.
        The vast, overwhelming majority of people who drink alcohol, have no problem at all.


    • 82
      Whos really the biggest threat to society says:

      When talking about the Journo with the Fag In the one hand and the scotch in the other you forgot to add “whilst driving”


      • 101
        Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

        And with a mobile wedged against the ear listening in to another hacked call.


        • 143

          and while addicted to debt as the Labour party is.


        • 146
          Blowing Whistles says:

          Begs the questions; probably will be covered up forever mind; which journalist was Lord Ahmed texting in his roller on the M5 when he killed a man and what were they texting one another about?


  11. 16
    limejuice says:

    I wonder what the world would look like if all public policy was based on evidence!


    • 20
      Sir William Waad says:

      Unfortunately, the people who are able to blag their way into power are exactly those who are most influenced by who is saying something and how well they are expressing it, rather than whether it is rational and supported by observation.


      • 25

        Die Führer und Reichskanzler was unsurpassed at this. Anthony Charles Lynton Blair was a worthy second.


      • 53
        AC1 says:

        Someone mentioned Anti-Autism as the malady that politico type seem to suffer from. An aversion to logical thought and ability to keep contradictory ideas from clashing.


        • 130
          Blowing Whistles says:

          The aversion to logical thought is of the subject matter “Cognitive Dissonance” – where a body of people so subsumed by their own righteousness – continue to run along as one when they have been clearly and evidentially proved to be wrong. Daniel Finkelstein wrote a very good article about Cognitive Dissonance in the Times a few years back. I don’t and won’t pay for the times – but will put the quote up somewhere tomorrow.


      • 103
        Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

        Interesting that Harris was one of the very few MPs with a science background trained to evaluate evidence……..


    • 84
      Public hangman says:

      Id be doing a roaring trade.


  12. 18
    Sir William Waad says:

    Give me a decent glass of claret any day.


  13. 19
    nellnewman says:

    Now about this MP’s are on drugs thingie.

    It’s not really surprising is it when they spend their whole life in that dysfunctional place called the House of Commons? They all believe they are all great beings who have power over the lives of the rest of us when in fact they are all idiots. And they all think its OK to falsify their accounts to claim maximum benefits off we taxpayers and dodge paying tax themselves.

    Then one by one they come to understand , some more slowly than others, that they are just ordinary human beings that the taxman can get in the end. But most devastating of all for them is the eventual devastating realisation that we ordinary folks despise them and regard them as something less than those rather disgusting slugs that have ape@red in gardens in large numbers this year.

    It’s no wonder they take to drugs in the end.


    • 38

      Perhaps if we administered drugs to them at the start, they would be nicer to us?

      Anyway, Sir William has a most excellent claret open right now and I, for one, am not going to say no.


    • 70
      Forkbender says:

      Nell shouldn’t there be some peasant walk backwards before MPs when they first come in to the house of commons say, “Remember you are mortal men” much like the slave who went before a victorious Roman general as he entered Rome


  14. 21
    Peter Reynolds says:

    Nothing better exposes the hypocrisy, cowardice, corruption and uselessness of politicians than the drugs issue which is why I’m standing in the Corby by-election.

    As leader of Cannabis Law Reform I hope to provide a focus for the protest vote in Corby. One thing voters can be certain of is that if they vote for the main parties absolutely nothing will change.

    The cannabis issue is an excellent example of how the main parties refuse to listen to public opinion, refuse to base policy on evidence and instead bend to pressure from the tabloid press and vested interests such as the alcohol industry. A regulated cannabis market would get the dealers off the streets, better protect children, enable access to safe and effective medicine, create tens of thousands of new jobs and boost the UK economy by up to £9.3 billion per annum.


  15. 23
    MrAngry61 says:

    Good radio program, looking forward to the C4 broadcast.


  16. 36

    I just thought I should you inform you all that I too am undertaking the same evidence based narcotic experiment as my honourable dude..Evan Harris. {thuuuthup}
    I should also like to ..erm..just like..maybe..note that this.. woah!..shit man..that’s…biggy woah..this ..this..this..experiment is just a way of gathering important and, far out , data to enable parliament to scrutinies and classify the right weights and optimal tabs for a night out, man.

    Peace out


    • 136

      Hookah makes me crazy…

      Manassas – Down the Road


      • 163
        Tron says:



        • 170

          This was a band put together by Steve Stills and was, for its short duration, arguably the most accomplished band in the world. It was quite lacking in ego and showing off. They were simply good – that was the only criterion.

          It is funny to think that the Monkees had been created a few years earlier as America’s answer to the Beatles. For the castings, Stills was considered but dismissed as he wasn’t pretty enough. He then played in CSN, CSNN, Manassas and a whole heap of other groups, often guesting as with Grateful Dead when he played in the same town.

          He had some notable guests on his solo albums: Hendrix and Clapton to name but two. Was judged by Rolling Stone to be 21st best guitarist of all time. I saw him many times and would kick him another ten places up the list. Good thing his career wasn’t blighted by being in a manufactured bubble-gum pop group…


          • racquel reeves says:

            fascinatin…schizophrenia’s cat

            but tony mcphee cut the mustard in the early 70’s

            great guitarist and classy comb-over


  17. 40
    annette curton says:

    Always the same, when they do occasional make the mistake of appointing somebody to chair a body or a fact finding mission that then actually comes up with some facts, those people are then quickly discredited and dumped faster than you can say; roll another one, ain’t that so Tony?.


    • 60
      AC1 says:

      If we were a little more content we might work a little less and relax a little more and that would be bad for parasitekind.


  18. 42
    I want a divorce from socialist meddling scum. says:

    Creamola foam.


    • 102
      Socialist Meddling scum says:

      It’s quite clear from your attitude and words that you are, indeed, in great need of re-education and re-alignment.

      You Local Community Neighbourhood Partnership Co-Coordinator has been informed and s/he will contact your Local Community Neighbourhood Enforcement Co-Coordinator who will liaise with your street / residential co-ordinator for assessment and further programming steps that prepare you for Stage 1 of the Programme. Resistance or attempts to escape are futile. Stay in your dwelling until we contact you again.


  19. 47
    Goo says:

    Any relationship on any level with any Labour Party member will leave you out of pocket


    • 51
      official lefty advice says:

      Going to a party?

      Take homebrew, drink Stella from the fridge


    • 52
      nellnewman says:

      Well unless you’re wife of gordon or bliar or davemiliband who are currently making a mint out of talking porkies and twaddle on the international lecture circuit.


      • 109
        Princess PC P£atitudinous Po-Face Po£yTwadd£e, talking down at poor people from her Ivory Tower, says:

        I am a£ways RIGHT!

        I am never WRONG!

        Twaddle in the wrong hands is not a word that I care to hear! High Grade Twaddle is high in wisdom and advice for the Lower orders and Little People who are grateful for the unalloyed and, frankly, invaluable teaching and advice that we, the Socialist Intellectual elite are able – nay entitled – to give them.


  20. 58
    A rational tax system says:

    There should be a large fee for wrinkling your nostrils like you have just licked some salt and lime juice and then found there’s no tequila left in the glass.


  21. 59
    Bob Crower says:

    Thatcher responsible for deaths of two Manchester police officers


  22. 62
    nellnewman says:

    Drugs are a pact with the devil. they play games with your brains.

    But there are other pacts with the devil like QE – and the folks that do it are hallucinating about generating growth in much the same way that folks on drugs hallucinate .

    Jens Weidman seems to think draghi is having a mephistopheles moment.


    • 86
      annette curton says:

      Not the Da Vinci Code… Opus Dei with Tessa Jowell and Mr Berlusconi;

      “The reward of sin is death.” That’s hard.
      …”If we say that we have no sin,
      We deceive ourselves, and there’s no truth in us.”
      Why then belike we must sin,
      And so consequently die.
      Ay, we must die an everlasting death.
      What doctrine call you this? Che sera, sera,
      “What will be, shall be”? Divinity, adieu!.

      (from Wicki).


    • 117
      Anatomist says:

      BrainS Nell? – the ordinary human only has one per person, – so it’s the singular.

      The only exceptions are the superhuman – Gordon Brwon, Bliar, Millibrain Balls, and others. They have more than one brain – just as they have minds.


      • 120
        nellnewman says:

        I had heard this rumour when brown was chancellor that he had two brains .

        Then when he left the office if pm and the country was in ruins I couldn’t understand why they had thought he had even a smidgen of intelligence.

        Gordon was after all nothing but a mindless vandal!


      • 149
        Thick as a Planck says:

        Think again ‘your’ and I’m sure nell intended it, to be plural.


  23. 79
    TomCatesby says:

    I thought all the coalition were on drugs!


  24. 80
    Raving Loon says:

    Just legalise weed already!


  25. 83
    TomCatesby says:

    Harold MacMillan


  26. 91
    Notareargunner says:

    I borrowed some Ecstasy from Jackie Smith’s husband. She doesn’t do it for me either. had to get some good shit from Louse Hellpersons wayward offspring, the Entrepreneur!!!!


  27. 96
    Shocked and Appalled says:

    Progressive Aspirational Relational Relationalshipping is the only answer!

    Just as Neo-Endogenous Bollocks was the answer for Noo£ieBore.

    Don’t you just feel so warm and cozy in that invaluable knowledge that Our Master and Betters have devised?


  28. 132
    Aunty Matter says:

    The Labour party and the BBC like to smoke Gordon Brown’s dry shits


  29. 135
    nellnewman says:

    Good Night. God Bless and Sweet Dreams.


  30. 138
    grobdj says:

    Money is the greatest drug of all

    Overdose bends the mind and convinces the recipient that he/she is worth every penny


  31. 139
    Saffron says:

    Drugs,how much pain and suffering has this crap caused in this world?.
    Why oh Why do we not as a world consign this crap to history.
    Not all that many years ago drugs for enjoyment were unheard of and rightly so as we now know.
    Just how did this blight on our society become popular?
    Look at what I call the Z list so called celebs who in whatever way were corrupting in what way people who were indulging in this practice were cool.
    IMHO,no you were not cool,in fact you then were well on the way to being DRUG addicts.
    Finally you are a disgrace to this country in that you have no concept of how drugs are effecting this country and we can well do without you.
    Take yourselves away from us as we don’t want you in any way or form.


    • 169
      AC1 says:

      >Why oh Why do we not as a world consign?

      Because there’s a vast number of people who disagree with you’re choices for them.


      • 196
        headmistress says:

        AC1 – “you’re”? What are you’re preferences? Your confusing us.

        And Saffron, it is “affecting” and not what you wrote.


  32. 144
  33. 145
    Gordon Brown says:

    If you look up my butt hole you can sometimes see a seagull


  34. 147 says:

    Drugs like heroin and cannabis weren’t an issue in the UK before mass immigration from Pak*istan and the West Indies. They provided an easy drug route into the country. They fuck with your brains and damage children before they have a chance to grow up. Legalising them will just make them as popular but more dangerous than tobacco and alcohol.


  35. 150
    the mystic mould with the appearance of th face of Jesus says:

    one bad trip can fuck you up permanently


  36. 159
    Whistleblower says:



  37. 161
    not a machine reloaded says:

    Seen enough of what drugs do and the alledged alternative lifestyle choice , not one of the people who I knew many years ago , who took the sort of thing beyond cannabis for a laugh , were the same people 12 months on if they carried on taking it,useually you got used to the bloodshot eyes but then the polarisation and manic mood swings just became a regualr monday occurance until they started on the weekday use . Cannabis was always a bit more social , you dont notice the changes and detchaments , bit more withdrawn etc etc ,as you are in group, still leads you to miss out on plenty of things in life, the heavy users although seemingly harmless did on reflection have some quite serious health problems .

    The one that always haunts me , was a group of well educated rich post grads , who I briefly knew , weekends were house partys etc and we had to call round to pick up a girl en route to the party , when we got there it was this very nice house , nice parents , we walked down the bottom of the garden to the summer house (which had become her room) and there was youth trying to bring her round ,with hot flannels as she had OD on some stuff they had . I realised then, they were doing stuff they didnt understand , or even if they thought they could assay its effects , it was still doing somthing bad .

    Dr Evan Harris can stuff his liberal views on drugs , besides there was some talk of some corporations wanting to be licenced sellers in a new market , under the guise of tax take improvement , make it legit . So wouldnt surprise me to find someone sponsoring liberalisation of drugs somwehere , for a new revenue stream .


  38. 164
    Twat Society says:

    What the Hell is going on?

    Romney is castigated for telling and not hiding the truth.


  39. 172
    Piers the Mong says:


  40. 174
    kimpatsu says:

    why would you assume that the only MP to advocate for evidence-based policy-making must be on drugs?


  41. 182 says:

    Work:the best drug of all. It gives you a purpose in life.


    • 183
    • 184
      jgm2 says:

      So when the Soviets ship all those folk off to Siberia for a spot of manual labour they were doing the peasants a favour?

      Work is just social conditioning. Look at all those council estates full of folk who haven’t done a day’s work in generations. They’re not hankering for work. They just want you to keep sending the money.

      Work is a means to an end. You work so that you can get money (or to live) so that you can do the things you actually want to do. Sit on your arse. Or go for a walk. Go fishing. Visit a foreign country. Whatever.

      There are the very occasional ‘workaholics’ who genuinely cannot think of anything they’d rather be doing but most folk only do it for the cash.


      • 188
        Jobsworth says:

        I think a balance is required. Doing something you don’t enjoy is a terrible waste of time, but on the other hand , some things will only ever be done by people being paid to do them because they are dull or unpleasant. Telling people to go away and write things out in triplicate is such fun it should only be done by people who pay for the privilege.


      • 206 says:

        Well you may regard works as a form of slavery (as do all those chavs in sink estates) but most people get some kind of enjoyment out of work. Not so much toilet cleaners perhaps, but making a useful contribution to society can bring satisfaction. If it did not do so why would there be so many unpaid volunteers, for example, as there were at the Olympics?

        Work is useful for many reasons besides just the money – exercise, (physical and/or mental), social intercourse, the satisfaction of completing tasks, relief from the boredom that inaction brings, etc.

        Many people who have won the pools or lottery and chucked their jobs are often far less happy than if they had never won anything.


  42. 186
    The Damp Rag of Downing St says:

    All tax is fair – providing Mr Rumpy-Pumpy says so!

    All drugs are legitimate – providing Mr Rumpy-Pumpy says so!

    See where one is ‘coming from’?


  43. 191
    Anonymous says:

    Dame Tessa Boon upper class twit and window dressing still with husband David Mills. As Guidoistas suspected for ages and now “real” journalists catch up.


  44. 193
    Some are more equal than others says:

    Dave, you twat, get us out of this criminal cabal :


  45. 194
    Dieser Blog ist gebrochen - schon wieder! says:

    Gord jinxed it for me :

    Server Maintenance

    Your server is going through a few minutes of routine maintenance. Please don’t touch your browser for a few minutes.

    What do I do?

    If you were posting a comment or making a post on your blog then do not press BACK on your browser. Wait 5 minutes and press the refresh icon on your browser. Your comment or post will be sent as normal.
    If you are browsing a blog here just wait a few moments and hit refresh. The page you were expecting will appear.


    • 200
      Sarf Londoner says:

      Yes, I was getting that too. Never seen it before. I just closed the browser and started again and when I got through everything was all there on the page, including the comments I had posted earlier. Seems to have cleared itself now.


  46. 195
    Westminster talks but doesn't listen says:

    Can’t help getting the impression that someone has been leant on in order to promote an agenda that the majority of voters don’t want :


  47. 208 says:

    It’s a slow news day?

    Man on bail murders two policewomen. The justice system not fit-for-purpose?



  48. 212
    Itzman says:

    David Nutts book is out too.

    “Drugs without the hot air”



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