EU Costs Britain £150 Billion a Year
The referendum calls have been gathering pace over the last few days, and they will hardly be sated by the latest findings from the Freedom Association pressure group. Their new report out today is claiming that the UK is £150 billion a year worse off as a result of being a member of the EU. That’s 10% of GDP.
With Jose Manuel Barroso calling for a “federation of nation states” it’s hardly surprising that 50 MPs have signed up to a new all-party referendum group. And still Dave made the point of not promoting eurosceptics in the reshuffle…
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£150 Billion a Year isn’t much these days
You cannot be an independent country and a member of the EU
SNP = EUP
Salmond is fucking magic. He’s going to liberate England.
Yup. Ex Banker Wee Fat ‘Eck Salmond is a big fan of the windmills too…
The mid loathing question. Why the delay?
Guido, show us yer tits!
Oy vey! Will no one think of persecuted J*wish ex-MPs, who are victims of evil, violent, drunken scousers?!
That woman is incredibly thick.
She doesn’t care. She has her copy of ‘Braveheart’. It’s what keeps her going.
Awa’ and bile yer heid.
I cant wait for scotchland to go indi if that woman was a barometer of inteligence of snp politicians. Brilliant! it will be a laugh to see scotchland sink with that big chip on it’s shoulder dragging it down. Bring on the referendum.
Those twa chips on yer shidders must weigh you doon.
Yeah– what’s 150 billion quid between friends anyway? We lose more than that in rounding errors!
You cannot be an independent country and part of an international market economy, get over it
its the amount of our deficit each year at the moment.
No reason not to have a referendum now.
The only reason we are in the EU is to extend the careers & the gravy train for politicians & civil servants.
Hanging is too good for them – & I hope I see the day when they do hang for treason.
Labour, Liberal Democrats AND the Conservatives.
Bastards all.
Dream on. The post democratic age is the progressive age. Get over it.
Hahaha. Good one.
Fucking genius, progressive like HP Progressive Printing? Wonk wank of the first order.
The EU is as progressive as the USSR was progressive? Now whatever happened to that?
The post democratic age is the progressive age.
When I imagine those words, why are they in Ironwork over a gate in ‘Arbeit Macht Frei’ stylee?
thanks for the handjob jimmy
thats like nearly the deficit!
Out the EU!
What it is nearly like is the £80 billion Govt. are trying to reduce the deficit by over a five year term .
So — easy .
Just tell the EU we re halving our contribution for one year and we are up to snuff again .
Which means we can probably invite Fife’s Big Feartie to take the reins again
Happy days — NOT.
Pardonnez moi, Monsieur Le Kebab!
C’est moi, ze leetle saucy boy, le President Hollandaise!
I cannot understand why ze perfidious rosbifs are so – ow do you zay – pessed off wiz ze EU. After all, they voted for Federation when ze voted for Heath, Blair, Brown, Major, Clegg n@ Camelron!
Zut alors! Tax ze reech and zay will pay for everything! Unfortunately zer are no reech left in Spain, Greece or in any Euro-socialist country….but no worries! Ze Brits will pay for our progressive giveaways!
Au revoir, mes amis.
I did try to stick up for you but this comment is pathetic
Want out, vote ukip.
Simple
sadly, vote UKIP get labour.
A shocking waste of money.
and how much money has corrupt EUkip wasted over 20 years? what has it ACTUALLY achived.
fuck all.
Sponging Troughers!
Oh and this is where Barroso calls for federation not the Farage clip.
http://kebabtime.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/bonkers-barroso-speech.html
Just remind me who elected Barroso to this all-powerful position?
Or 8illy even?
81lly – are you speaking to yourself – you are just asking and Kebab Time (and a bunch of other stupid names that you use to disguise how pathetic you are)
81lly, why not confine your posts to your own blog – surely you have lots of readers even if you take away the constant refreshing that you do yourself
“And still Dave made the point of not promoting eurosceptics in the reshuffle…”
He made in fact a point of appointing europhiles…(and a few oenophiles) in the reshuffle.
Shows which side he leans to?
I think you really meant that ‘Dave the Cave – In’ actually made a point of surrounding himself in Cabinet with a coterie of other Onanists.
I like Dave’s policies I really do. If you disagree with any just wait five minutes and another three diametrically opposed to the first will be along.
‘U turn if you want to’…Cast Iron Dave seems to be a bit rusty.
Like Maggie or Love Maggie at least you knew where she stood on any issue. Camoron is a utter pr1ck.
I think it’s so terribly worth it! And after all, that’s where my future lies!
If this is true it is absolutely horrendous. What is the matter with the people of this country? Is it because having been serfs for a thousand years they can’t get out of the habit? Or is it because instead of blood in their veins they have cold tea?
Our rulers ought to be dangling from every lamp post along the Victoria Embankment. Rope or piano wire, who cares?
Come the next election UKIP will still be nowhere. Is it really the case that the people get the government they deserve?
If you reallly want to change things you have to go out on the streets stuffing flyers,posters etc , answering telephones, setting up meetings and all the other things political parties do.
Nothing will happen until people get of their fat arses and help, or are you content to piss our future generations prosperity up the wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dream on. The post democratic age is the progressive age. Get over yourselves.
Jimmy that’s socialist atrophy your on about there.
Dave has two big problems he lacks judgement & courage. He should have called for a referendum on Europe two years ago. I can’t see him doing it even though it would ensure him a second term regardless of the outcome!
he must do it before milipede does it.
Vacant Ned? A policy? What the fuck would he want with a policy? If you have a policy then you have to defend it. If you have no polices then you can spend all your time attacking the T*ries. ‘Don’t do this… don’t do that… that’s wrong, that’s not right…’
Worked for Blair. And it’s working for Ned.
I said it prior to the last election. Cameron was fucking insane to have policies. All he needed to do was stick the boot into whatever the Maximum Imbecile was doing. But no. Had to come up with ‘The Big Society’. Fucking idiot.
“Decisions, decisions. Marmalade or Jam. For fucks sake Sam you decide.”
I’ll ask me dad, he knows which way the wind is blowing.
If it contains carrots then it’s jam.
Only a mass defection ( or at least the threat of one ) from the Tory MPs to UKIP will wake Dave up.
But they would rather be in the tent pissing-up, than outside pissing off.
I think that is very true. Under the first past the post system, the only hope of actually getting a Eurosceptic grouping into parliament is to get them there from another party and then form the new grouping so that people can see it really exists and a vote for it is not wasted. But who will have the courage?
to a new all-party referendum group.
This ‘all-party’ referendum group. Are there any Labour MPs in it? More than one or two?
I’m guessing not. Labour would rather be cuckolded by the EU and present a ‘united front’ than do the right thing and get us the fuck out.
Their ‘vision’, such as it is, derives from the Labour principle that it is far more important to spite the T*ries than it is to do the right thing for the electors.
Err.. Guido. I hate the EU as much as anybody, but just how much of that £150 Billion comes back to us? So what is the NET payment?
I agree. It’s a bit disingenuous. I think we get about 120nm or 130bn quid back. A net loss of 20 or 30bn quid but nowhere near as bad as 150bn.
That said though, they get to tell us how to spend a lot of that 120/130bn quid we get back. Ban smoking in pubs. Special grants here. CAP payments there. Road-widening with-EU-flag-display-on-the-roadsigns-mandatory the other.
A few years ago I was in Martinique. They had a nice little waterpark which the family had almost to themselves. Sure enough – co-funded by the EU.
It’s our money. Howzabout we decide where to spend it in the first place without laundering it through Brussels. Minus their cut. Natch.
But where does the rest go? To our competitors!
But where does the rest go?
Waterparks in Martinique. Widening the coast road in Reunion.
Olive farms that produce more than 100% of the world’s total production of virgin olive oil in Italy. And Spain. And Greece.
Like parent to child. ” Give me your pocket money, because I know best how to spend it.”
” But I don’t want a dropped pavement, I want a lolly “
We need to be out of the EU and exporting to the rest of the world whilst the euro continues it’s plummet over a cliff.
So I really hope barroso does push the rest of them towards a federation so that that triggers our law which says we must then have a referendum. The sooner the better.
And hopefully whilst I’m alive to see it.
I used to wish long enough for us to discover signs of ‘life’ on Mars. Now this is my no one motivator.
Mine too.
Dream on. The post democratic age is the progressive federalist age.
Get over yourselves or leave EU territory. Simple.
‘EU territory’! Pr*iceless. Good one.
Are you really arguing against the fact that the UK is EU territory?
Oh, you are funny.
Do you want the Treaty names and dates signed by Conservative Governments that consigned venal nation states to the dustbin of history?
consigned venal nation states to the dustbin of history?
Funnier and funnier.
You’re really on a roll.
Something wrong with your medication today Jimmy?
you are getting a bit boring jimmy. shut up.
It appears there are guidophiles who believe, perhaps unsurprisingly, that if they post under the name “Jimmy” that somehow the magic will rub off. The efforts above clearly demonstrate this theory to be well wide of the mark, nevertheless I can only applaud your ambition.
Anyone tempted to argue that they simply made up that number, shame on you.
The Taxdodgers’ Alliance made it up and they repeated it.
either shut up or piss off, jimmy. i don’t suppose you can manage both…?
My comment may lack the panache of yours, but that’s a little harsh.
Taxdodgers’ Alliance. Classic!
Keep posting Jimmy. They don’t like it up them.
What The Fuck Dont They GET ?
Waste of money.
Referendum now. Time for these idiots to jog on.
10% of growth indeed. That was last year’s growth. In reality £150b is more likely 13% of current growth. Do keep up Guido
I havent heard the Beeb discuss or even mention this yet , why not ?
European Commission
Press release
Brussels, 14 September 2012
The European Commission announces new large-scale support the Occupied Palestinian Territory
The European Commission has today announced new funding of €100 million for Palestine in the areas of water and sanitation and supporting refugees, as well as a package of support to Area C (the part of the West Bank under direct Israeli occupation), amongst other things. The EU is the largest donor to the Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT).
EU Commissioner for Enlargement and European Neighbourhood Policy, Štefan Füle today commented: “The decision shows our commitment to help the people of Palestine in the areas which are vital to their everyday lives, such as water, public services and infrastructure. It also shows our determination to do all we can to support Palestinian refugees living outside the OPT– providing them with an education and access to essential healthcare and social services.”
The new funding will specifically go towards improving the quality of water and solid waste management in Gaza, reducing salinity and increasing access to water, as well as working with other donors on land-fill and sanitary solid-waste disposal.
Additional funding for the United Nations Refugee Agency (UNWRA) will provide support on education, health, relief and social services for Palestine refugees in the West Bank, Gaza, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan.
Area C in the OPT contains natural resources and land which are crucial to the future economic growth of a Palestinian state. It is currently almost impossible for Palestinians and international donors to obtain building permits in the area, and community buildings and essential basic infrastructure (like rainwater harvesting cisterns) are regularly demolished. The EU’s new funding will provide training and expertise, to help the relevant Palestinian Authority (PA) Ministries to plan and build new infrastructure and enable people to reclaim and rebuild their land there.
A further tranche of the new funding will go towards providing public services in East Jerusalem, where it will improve the conditions of Palestinian public buildings and housing in the historic urban core of the city by working with local Palestinian civil society and international organisations.
The new assistance will also help to provide technical assistance to the PA to improve public financial management, the rule of law and the development of the private sector, with a particular emphasis on agriculture, both in Gaza and the West Bank.
Today’s package is worth €100m and brings the EU’s aid to the OPT for 2012 to a total of €200 million, to which a further €100 million of 2011 credits to be spent in 2012 should be added. This money is part of the assistance provided under the European Neighbourhood and Partnership Instrument (ENPI). This is the main financial and cooperation instrument though which the funding is given to the European Neighbourhood Policy (ENP) countries and Russia.
Background
This package focused on seven priority areas, which are as follows:
Land development and basic infrastructure in Area C (€7,000,000)
Building on the political momentum of the EU Report on Area C and as a first concrete step in its implementation, this action aims to support the Palestinian presence and to promote social and economic development in Area C, which is a necessary prerequisite for the “Two-State Solution” to the Middle East Peace Process, and a cornerstone of EU policy.
Support for the delivery of community services in East Jerusalem (€8,000,000)
The EU has never recognised the annexation of East Jerusalem by Israel. It continues to support actions in East Jerusalem, particularly involving the highly marginalised neighbourhoods and the improvement of the conditions of Palestinian public buildings and housing in the historic urban core of the city.
Sustainable management of natural resources in Gaza (€11,000,000)
The action focuses on improvement in the quality and efficiency in water supply service and in solid waste management services.
For water supply, this intervention has been prepared in co-ordination with the World Bank’s Gaza Water Supply and Rehabilitation and Expansion Project, which itself is built on the previous Gaza Emergency Water Project.
Support for the private sector in the West Bank and Gaza Strip (€11,200,000)
Economic growth in the occupied Palestinian territory will only be sustainable if driven by the private sector. The Palestinian Authority (PA) has made private sector development a national priority. This is reflected in the “Palestinian National Plan” (PNP) for the years 2011-13.
In Gaza, the EU assessment suggested focusing on the agricultural sector, seriously damaged by Israeli actions, and in need of significant support. In the West-Bank, the EU assessment proposed a focus on farmers and agri-businesses directly affected by actions of the Israeli army or settlers.
Contribution to UNRWA’s 2012 Regular Budget – 2nd tranche (€11,500,000)
The overall objective of the action is to provide support to the education, health, relief and social services programmes of the UNRWA.
Support for governance / rule of law and social sector institutions (€20,500,000)
This action supports the recommendations of the Ad Hoc Liaison Committee to follow up the achievements of the PA in the reform and modernisation of the cash transfer programme and in moving towards a more comprehensive, equitable and sustainable social protection system.
PEGASE1 2012: Support for the recurrent expenditure of the Palestinian Authority – Part II (€31,000,000)
This package will support the Palestinian National Development Plan by helping the PA to: finance its budget deficit and implement its reform agenda; meet its obligations towards civil employees, pensioners and poorest citizens, and maintain the functioning of the administration and the provision of essential public services to the population.
For more info:
Website of EuropeAid Development and Cooperation DG:
http://ec.europa.eu/europeaid/index_en.htm
Of course if the whining Izzies actually paid the Pals any reparations whatsoever, we wouldn’t have to. Fckuing land thieves.
Stefan Fule?
The Dutch have obviously voted to stay in. The constitutional court in Germany has given the green light for Mrs Merkel to go ahead with her monetary plans. Ireland want to stay in. Poor old UK get the begging bowls out. What if Scotland decide to go ahead in the EU?
I know it’s Friday evening and the percentage of blood in the alcohol stream is decreasing for many posters, but do you really believe that the UK will EVER leave the EU? It’s a possibility that we may leave if the EU were to break up, but beyond that, no mainstream political party will ever offer an in/out referendum. Ever.
How many MPs have UKIP got as of now? None. Let’s say that number again. None.
How many will they have after the next Election? No more than a handful.
There is no possibility that the UK will leave the EU. As Jimmy said, put up or fuck off.
“And still Dave made the point of not promoting eurosceptics in the reshuffle…”
Of course not , he was under orders from his masters Barroso and Herman Goring , sorry i mean Van rumpy pumpy
What bothers me is that the ordinary person is still burying their head in the sand, pretending that nothing is happening and the Europe is something “over there and not important”. I do not want to see oppressive rule from Brussels but I fear that many apathetic British will need a sharp dose of it to wake them out of their stupor and fight. Those of us who are awake to the dangers may have to suffer short-term while our thick brethren go through an awakening.
The other thing is, Cameron has to go. He is a prat. I don’t care who replaces him just so as long as the replacement has some guts to defend this country.
1) Professor Tim Congdon is not a professor, or an academic economist. He has a joint honors degree in economics which is > 40 years ago, and has since been a journalist and commentator.
2) The analysis is only a partial cost benefit analysis of contributions vs received funding. This is misleading because it does not evaluate the cost benefits of EU policies and market to the UK economy. Thus, it is a poor basis from which to argue whether membership is or is not beneficial.