September 6th, 2012

How Much Do Labour Love the NHS?


218 Comments

  1. 1
    Kebab Time says:

    More Lib Dems i reckon.

  2. 2
    Grumpy_Haggis says:

    Do they know holidays are over?

  3. 3
    Camilla Parkerarse-Down says:

    Not only empty seats but empty heads. What’s that old saying “empty vessels make the most noise”

  4. 4
    Tachybaptus says:

    Well, it did cause the fall of their leader’s nose.

  5. 5
    Little Ed says:

    But we do love the political capital we can make out of it.

  6. 6
    constituency trainbound says:

    its thursday and the first week has been quite taxing …time for a tad of r and r

  7. 7
    Forkbender says:

    Having said there is little interest on the Liebore benches there seems to be a poor turn out altogether, probably doing their own turn outs somewhere else maybe down at the Vicar and Strumpet

  8. 8
    Bert the Cert says:

    One picture is worth a thousand words.

  9. 9
    Gordon Brown says:

    It takes a great deal of courage to be a burglar. I got a VC for taking by stealth.

  10. 10
    Gordon Brown says:

    It takes a great deal of courage to be a bur-glar. I got a VC for taking by stealth.

  11. 11
    Norman Stanley Fletcher says:

    Life is one permanent holiday if you’re an MP.

  12. 12
    Mornington Crescent says:

    If you want some stomach-clutching reading, read the BBC’s report of Ed’s “predistribution” speech and the comments below it.

    If you don’t, don’t.

    As (I think) Drop a Daisy Cutter said on a similar subject, you can almost see/hear the jizz slithering down the walls at the BBC at such a leftie wankfest.

    FFS.

  13. 13
    Norman Stanley Fletcher says:

    Nail on head.

  14. 14
    Lard Pressclott - Laughing Policeman in waiting says:

    In this weather they’ll all be out on the terrace drinking subsidised booze and filling out expenses claims.

  15. 15
    Hang The Bastards says:

    The question is…. what are the k.unts doing instead.

    What a disgrace.. Shut the whole place down… unfit for purpose.

  16. 16
    Labour wankstain says:

    The NHS is for the poor. We do like the useless staff though, they help vote us into power.

  17. 17
    annette curton says:

  18. 18
    robbie says:

    There’s no PFI profit in community hospitals so why would they turn up?

    Everything wrong with the NHS in England at present is Labour sourced. Chiefly Foundation Trusts, over-funded Independent Treatment Centres, and taxpayer funded Pilgrims infiltrating every layer of NHS work and decision making.

  19. 19
    Jimmy says:

    They’re all hiding as a tribute to the new SoS.

  20. 20
    Old Crummy says:

    They were sat too long for any good they were doing, anyway.

  21. 21
    National Socialist says:

    Having read the Register of MPs’ Interests (posted elsewhere) their outside earnings dwarf their expenses.
    Little wonder they’re not in the HoP, they’re out making paid appearances or on fact-finding trips abroad paid for by others.

  22. 22
    Gordon Brown says:

    I want to pour petrol on the fire.
    Let me! Let me! Let me!

    It’ll be like a stimulus!

  23. 23
    National Socialist says:

    Maybe the ‘benches’ are as uncomfortable as the pews in churches.

  24. 24
    Anonymous says:

    Wasn’t it an MP who remarked how lazy the British were? Bet she’s not there.

  25. 25
    Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    Can’t the Conservatives just vote on a bill that enrages leftists, unions and assorted to Bbbc tossers and when they all scream foul just show this picture?

  26. 26
    Anonymous says:

    Ever so quietly, ever so gently, another nail gets tap tap tapped in.

  27. 27
    annette curton says:

    O.k can somebody tell me what pre-distribution means?, C’mon Knobinson you are the expert, bet you haven’t got a fucking clue!.

  28. 28
    Labour says:

    Shhh! Don’t tell anyone it was us who allowed PFI contracts that have seen hospitals charged £350 to have a lightbulb changed. We need people to think it’s all the fault of this government! They can’t know it was our Tony giving lucrative contracts to his cronies.

  29. 29
    T.B£iar - the People's Messiah says:

    Or, like me, bringing pe@ce to the Middle East.

    Kerrrrchiiiiiiing !

  30. 30
    Incapable Vince says:

    It means any Lib/Libor coalition would sequester all your assets, including property and divide the ‘spoils’ between their supporters.

  31. 31

    An eternal truth is hereby demonstrated.

    It is no fun being in opposition.

  32. 32
    Educated person says:

    You are of course right. It would be nice to think otherwise but in 2012, who would share a room with at least half a dozen others, all of them unknown to you. The NHS seems unchanged from the days when people, having done National Service, were used to sleeping in dormitories and sharing loos. Someone should explain that things have moved on a bit.

  33. 33
    Educated person says:

    were sitting…

  34. 34
    Gordon Brown says:

    I love smoking crack.

  35. 35
    Privatise the BBC says:

    They’re all outside climbing aboard the latest bandwagon.

  36. 36

    “You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately… Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!”

    Oliver Cromwell

    And copied by MP Leo Amery when he used the same quote to shame Neville Chamberlain into resignation.

  37. 37
    annette curton says:

    There is also a saying; money does not make you happy but you can be miserable in comfort, and what comfort.

  38. 38
    Submarineman. says:

    They are most probably tired after such a long holiday, worn out I expact.
    They should all be sent on permanent holiday, with pay if necessary. There is no doubt that the country benefits when there is no one there. The evil from Brussels is more than enough for us, double maladministration is too much. I feel so tired!

  39. 39
    Sir William Waad says:

    They’re untidy buggers too, ain’t they? I suppose they’re used to some unpaid intern clearing up their litter.

  40. 40
    annette curton says:

    No Gordon, it’s got nothing to do with kippers.

  41. 41
    81IIy 8owden i5 7he gre@test ump1re ever ! says:

    i does not get this much holidays at the security booth – it is harder works here most days, and worse if i is on the fence walkering

  42. 42
    Sir William Waad says:

    Redistribution: you have two cows. The Government takes one of them.

    Pre-distribution: you have no cows. The Goverment gives you a voucher for powdered soya milk-substitute.

  43. 43

    No one knows what wonk face was going on about. He’s like some demented marketing manager for an engineering firm with a new industrial product that he doesn’t understand.
    He just makes words up and hopes the others around the table are even more clueless than he is.

    Ed Miliband is the evolution of the power point middle manager. Ipad Ed.

  44. 44
    annette curton says:

    The illegitimate offspring?.

  45. 45
    Tachybaptus says:

    Is being ‘in power’ fun for Dave? Not a day goes by without a public demonstration of his feebleness, incompetence and mendacity. If I were an MP, I’d like to be to be a Lib Dem under a one-party government, so I could criticise both the main parties while promoting vacuously silly schemes of my own, secure in the knowledge that they would never be tested in practice.

  46. 46
    Bogeyman says:

    You could at least provide a link. Not being a Labour voter, I haven’t time to go grubbing around the BBC site.

  47. 47
    Tachybaptus says:

    But there are only about a dozen conservatives left in the Conservative Party.

  48. 48
    Well it's a thought says:

    So the green is the winner, good job the greens only have 1 crappy/nasty piece of rubbish mp.

  49. 49
    Bogeyman says:

    They get more done in church than in Parliament.

  50. 50
    Gooey Blob says:

    It isn’t working though, is it? Half-way into an unpopular austerity government Labour ought to be 30 points ahead in the polls. Instead, Labour’s lead has dropped to just 6 points. A Labour lead that narrow at this stage makes me suspect Labour will go down to a heavy defeat in 2015.

    The Milibandwagon clearly isn’t working, it’s all a load of Ed Balls.

  51. 51
    Bogeyman says:

    You no longer have to change lightbulbs. Thanks to the EU, we all have low energy bulbs which last forever.

  52. 52

    The starting point is a difficult one, Tachy. What sort of deranged person wants to poke their noses into other people’s lives to the extent that they wish to become an MP in the first place?

    If one comes up with an answer to that, then it is a relatively easy task to demonstrate that it must be more fulfilling to the human condition to be influencing events rather than watching them. We will probably never know what Dave might have been capable of had he had his own mandate. Premised upon being the Son of Blair, I do not imagine much good.

  53. 53
    Well it's a thought says:

    What happened to those uconned us MPs that were writing a book on how lazy the British people are, that seems to have gone quiet, wonder why?.

  54. 54
    annette curton says:

    Worked great up to now, the great pretenders and life is still pretty good in a coalition government, we are still not responsible for anything (only the nice bits).

  55. 55

    True. But the real test of one’s true happiness must be fulfilment which means different things to different folk. For me, it is the ability to lead my life as I wish with minimal interference from any state.

  56. 56
    Gooey Blob says:

    He’s not “Your Tony” any more, he’s not welcome in your party. Centre-left moderates are being purged from Labour up and down the country. A quiet revolution is going on, the hard-line union lunatics are taking over the asylum.

  57. 57

    As you will well know, pigs are clean and tidy in comparison.

  58. 58
    M'lud says:

    So, not quite so educated, then…

  59. 59
    IQ 100 says:

    Does Parliament require that there should be anybody sitting on the opposition benches during a ‘ debate’?

  60. 60
    Jim says:

    He wants to raise more money from taxation to spend on labour voters.
    To avoid avoidance he is going to tax people’s homes,(excluding Social Housing).

  61. 61
    annette curton says:

    Looks like half a dozen tramps have sneaked in past the sergeant at arms, god knows what legislation will be coming out next.

  62. 62
    Greychatter says:

    They could all sit together and sell tickets for spectators on the opposite side of the chamber, could help to bring down the cost of parliament.

    But who would pay to listen to all that waffle?

    Mostly empty chamber but still 650 sets of expenses.

  63. 63
    Anonymous says:

    Labour = Hypocrites

  64. 64
    Anonymous says:

    predistribution – What the fuck is that Hunt on about?

  65. 65
    David Minibanana says:

    My doctor calls it premature ejaculation, but my wife calls it ‘firing blanks’.

  66. 66
    Mornington Crescent says:

    I usually do, Bogeyman, but I couldn’t bring myself to provide a link this time.

    But if you really insist:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19503451

  67. 67
    Engineer says:

    Pre-distribution = they’re going to take it off you BEFORE you’ve earned it. After all, they’ve already spent it.

  68. 68
    a question says:

    I thought MPs werent allowed to claim mortgage interest on their London apartments anymore?
    Is that incorrect?

  69. 69
    annette curton says:

    I have it on good authority that they can do just what the fuck they like as usual.

  70. 70
    Anonymous says:

    In your dreams

  71. 71
    Gooey Blob says:

    Look at Kinnock’s mid-term lead prior to 1992, Or Foot’s prior to 1983. Labour are nowhere near where they should be. Come the election, Labour won’t be polling anywhere near as well as their current level.

    Take a look at Mike Smithson’s analysis of Labour’s current “support”. Labour are in big trouble, but they don’t yet seem to realise it.

    The warning signs are there if you want to look. Wake up!

  72. 72
    Superman says:

    Let’s be totally honest. If Labour had elected David Milliband instead of Ed then Labour would be 30 points ahead. Electing Michael Foot saved Mrs Thatcher and we are still suffering from her economic policies. Unions elected unelectable Ed. Will they never learn?

  73. 73
    The whole fucking lot are self serving Cunts says:

    Not just Labour the whole lot are just posers. They only turn up when they know it is on the telly, such as PMQs or throw rotten eggs at a minister time.

    What they have done is signed the big important stuff over to the EUSSR and for that they should be escorted to Trairor’s gate.

  74. 74
    Keith Dovkunts says:

    To be fair, Diane Abbott had just let rip . . .

  75. 75

    Predistribution is a Rawlsian concept based on a concept of fairness predicated upon a social contract. The whole position is established upon (dare I even mention the subject) a thought experiment so it is dubious in the extreme…

    I think I have now said enough.

  76. 76
    Alexsandr says:

    so seeing sloppy susan in soho

  77. 77
    Synic says:

    There’s circa 630 of the idle thieving prats. Why is there not a quorum of say 100. If attendance is below that then the debate should automatically be declared null and void.

  78. 78
    Alexsandr says:

    I’m playing politics bollocks bingo and i win £5

  79. 79

    If one were going to try and capture the public mood using a single word that would resonate amongst the populace at large, predistribution surely would not be very near the top of the shortlist.

  80. 80

    Applaud you sentiments. Did you read the small print BTW?

    You have to come back in person in 150 years’ time to collect.

  81. 81
    The whole fucking lot are self serving Cunts says:

    +1

  82. 82
    jgm2 says:

    According to the side-bar with the BBC article ‘Pre-distribution’ is where you up the minimum wage so that people on low incomes get more money.

    The same effect could be achieved by cutting taxes or raising the tax-free allowance but I’m betting the bedwetters aren’t going down that route. They’re already mentally spending the extra tax they raise from the extra ‘minimum’ wages.

  83. 83
    Brown. Gordon Brown is a very had man. says:

    Cept labour benefited from Maggie’s legacy.The country was an absolute basket case when Mrs T came to power.

    Unfortunately Gordon believed his own PR and ruined all that he inherited.

  84. 84
    Alexsandr says:

    they only need a quorum if there is a division. then its 40. then all they need is 1 MP and the speaker

  85. 85
    jgm2 says:

    Probably not. But presumably there is still some kind of quorum required otherwise the T*ry MPs present could just call a snap vote and ban the Labour party. Or set an IQ bar of 100. Which would get rid of most of the incompetent fuckers.

  86. 86
    Alexsandr says:

    im not saying thats how it should be. just how it is.

  87. 87
    Books We Think We Have Read says:

    We have had Samuel Johnson and Henry Watson Fowler pass through since then Bill! Oliver Cromwell, whatever his other qualities, was not a lexicographical genius.

  88. 88
    jgm2 says:

    It’s where the government fixes it so that more money goes into poor people’s pockets in the first place. It’s a T*ry policy – it’s best achieved by cutting income tax.

    Labour, being fuckwits, want to achieve the same result by forcing companies to pay their employees more. So that they can then tax these new, improved wages, and give the money to their client voters.

  89. 89
    labour are shite says:

    I don’t want to wake up, that’s a pretty good dream.

  90. 90
    wee logician says:

    Guido, neo-guido or wikiguido, you are a genius. And I am drunk.

  91. 91
    Sherlock (no shit) says:

    Are you Bіlly, Keith?

  92. 92
    jgm2 says:

    Labour will do okay while Nasal Ned and Toxic Ned limit themselves to occasional TV appearances. Their problem will come when an election is called and you’ll have Nasal Ned whining his way through TV ads and speeches every night on TV.

    It’ll be windbag Kinnock all over again. The voters will take one look and give it ‘You have to be fucking shitting me. You’re seriously suggesting we have that nasal wanker representing us at the G* or some arms treaty?’

  93. 93
    Bogeyman says:

    Thank you. Out with the rubber gloves…

  94. 94
    jgm2 says:

    It’s Labour’s answer to ‘Big Society’.

    It’s fucking meaningless but some space cadet in strategy managed to sell it to the new leader.

  95. 95
    Lord Leveson says:

    We can all agree with your second sentence.

    Just wait until I pass my next one.

  96. 96
    no such client says:

    Why do we need growth ? Surely growth is unsustainable ? as we haven’t got a fucking space industry ?

  97. 97
    Rice & Peas Fart says:

    Utter Bollocks. If Fatbot had let rip the whole chamber would be empty.
    .

  98. 98
    Bogeyman says:

    OK, read it now. This post sums it up:

    The UK economy won’t be fixed by meaningless feel-good soundbites. Adding yet another dire buzzword (in ‘pre-distribution’) to the national vocabulary does nothing to fire-up the stagnant economy

    I’m surprised it wasn’t deleted.

  99. 99

    And the new leader was fucking dopey (or nerdy) enough to accept it.

    The man could not run a corner shop.

  100. 100
    says:

    *licks everywhere*

  101. 101
    Tonto says:

    I would like to see a full list of expenses claimed by the fuckers for today’s work .

  102. 102
    jgm2 says:

    Not at all. They’d all be lying where they fell.

    There might be a few of ‘em make it to the exits but they’d be being thrown up on horse drawn carts outside the chamber.

    Wilfred Owen sums it up.

    ‘Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling,
    Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
    But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,
    And flound’ring like a man in fire or lime . . .
    Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
    As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
    In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
    He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.
    If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
    Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
    And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
    His hanging face, like a devil’s sick of sin;
    If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
    Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs, ‘

  103. 103
    UKIP.i.am.awake says:

    Yes let us wait and see what illogical, loony left policies these turds come out with to try to convince the electorate that they have a bloody clue how to sort out the economy that they fooked up in the first place. The only thing Labour have going for them (apart from Dopey Dave) is the fact that votes in some Labour constituencies are considered to be worth far more than in many Tory ones. That is their idea of fairness.

  104. 104
    The only way is bumsex says:

    Over here

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/9520250/Hard-graft-can-make-Britain-great-again.html

    Unfortunately, this cun*t doesn’t seem to be getting much of a welcome.

  105. 105
    The only way is bumsex says:

    When was Blair ever a “centre-left moderate”?

    “Self serving cun*t” is the term you’re looking for.

  106. 106
    UKIP.i.am.awake says:

    “Predistribution is about saying, ‘We cannot allow ourselves to be stuck with permanently being a low-wage economy and hope that through taxes and benefits we can make up the shortfall.”

    How can even left wing dumbasses ignore the glaring fact that it is the low-wage economies of the far east that are thriving while it is the molly-coddled, high-paid workers in the debt-ridden, high-spending, high-tax economies of the west that are floundering?

  107. 107

    Bill Clinton fucks Barack Obama on stage Mirror

    Will that be enough, I wonder?

  108. 108
    Hey Lordy, pick a bale of cotton. says:

    Firing blanks is just ejaculation without swimmers in it.
    If I recall correctly once upon a time, post vasectomy blokes could buy a neck-tie with I.O.F.B (I Only Fire Blanks) woven in to it

  109. 109
    Hey Lordy, pick a bale of cotton. says:

    Rice & pe*s make good gas!

  110. 110
    Hey Lordy, pick a bale of cotton. says:

    ……….and their pay docked!

  111. 111
    Iain Gill says:

    the turnout at the immigration debate by both sides was terrible too. for a topic that is number one on the doorsteps you would have thought MP’s would have taken it more seriously.

    lots of them got their facts wrong.

    scandal really.

  112. 112
    Hey Lordy, pick a bale of cotton. says:

    Michelle Obama giving Bill Clinton a blow job on stage would be better.

  113. 113
    UKIP.i.am.awake says:

    They have all contracted Brownitis.

  114. 114
    UKIP.i.am.awake says:

    Brownitis is a virus that leaves you looking like a gibbering idiot so you shun all company.

  115. 115
    Death by a 1000 cuts says:

    NooLyingBastards have done their worst, – what more need they do?

  116. 116
    Keith Dovkunts says:

    Sherlock, no. Besides, more often than not, I can spell.

  117. 117
    Death by a 1000 cuts ... says:

    Actually, what did happen to the ‘Big Society’?

  118. 118
    jgm2 says:

    Shhhh. Don’t mention the ‘Big Society’. They’re hoping everybody will forget.

    But this ‘predistribution’ bollocks has ‘Big Society’ written all over it. Nasal Ned is about to get hi-jacked by the T*ries pointing out that their plan to put more money into people’s pockets involves taxing ‘em less in the first place. Where as Labour only want to pay ‘em more so they can tax ‘em more and piss it all away. Again.

  119. 119
    jgm2 says:

    If only the c*unt had contracted ‘Brownitis’ back in 1997 instead of devoting every waking moment from 1997 to 2010 fucking everything up.

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  121. 121
    Expat Geordie says:

    He couldn’t run a bath.

  122. 122
    The fuc'kin thievin' troughin' c'unts says:

    MPs’ expenses claims rise by a quarter in a year

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9520959/MPs-expenses-claims-rise-by-a-quarter-in-a-year.html

  123. 123
    Cunt Watch says:

    Hunts the fucking lot of them.

    No show, no pay, should be the order of the day.

    Hunts

  124. 124
    Gabriel says:

    Quite right, Growth is seen as The mantra these days. There’s nowt wrong with improving what is.

  125. 125
    jgm2 says:

    25% inflation?

    Who knew.

  126. 126
    germanicusrex says:

    The media glare disappears for a while and the greedy troughers are back with their snouts at the ready, pocketing as much as they can.

    What an odious bunch our MP’s really are

  127. 127
    Filbert Gibbler says:

    Who was the little git in the big chair then?

    Surely noy the bloke in ‘Star Wars’!

  128. 128
    jgm2 says:

    The T*ries should be pointing out how their policies have led to an improvement in the child poverty figures. Something the Maximum Imbecile, with all his borrowed and squandered ‘growth’ didn’t manage in 13 years.

    Labour, it seems, want ‘growth’ at the expense of more children being in poverty.

    It’s a question of priorities.

    Think of the ikkle childwen.

  129. 129
    jgm2 says:

    At this distance he looks like Davros.

  130. 130
    David Starkey, Looks Good In Khaki says:

    The real issue here is that we need more MPs who dress in khaki.

    Now, if the Tories could find me a nice, safe constituency in the south-east, I should have thought that with my impeccable dress sense – especially concerning all things khaki – the whole tone of the House of Commons will be lifted, and very many more MPs would be encouraged to attend debates safe in the knowledge that there is a Member present who has a leading sense for couture.

    Even that silly Bagshawe girl would show her face!

  131. 131
    Fuck the bbc says:

    Such sadness

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  133. 133
    cant wait says:

    this is because most Lab MPs are Jocks so have no interest in English affairs.

    Bring on 2014

  134. 134
    Saffron says:

    The expanse of green there says it all, INMHO they could’nt give a shit about about us ordinary people or the country.
    Their interest is how can we make money and at the same time conn people who are paying for us into believing that we are on your side.
    The only side these money grubbing barstewards are on is their only enrichment,and Comwell got it right all those years ago when he told such parasites to p-ss off as they did not represent the values of the majority of people in this country.
    These three barstewards parties are an utter disgrace to this country,between them they are economicaly illiterate and have no clue what to do.
    I can actually give them a clue,and it is, income £10 pounds expendititure £9 absolutely ok,on the other hand income £10 pounds expenditure £i5 pounds you are in debt,and who pays for this.Think about it sheeple as to what is going on under your name.

  135. 135
    domino316 says:

    Here is an idea to sort out the NHS, straight out of Kirklees Primary Care Trust playbook, let the chief of Community Health Care Services lead the campaign to spin it off from the NHS into a “not-for-profit” Community Interest Company retaining your £80,000+ salary with a guaranteed contract for NHS services, dupe (sorry TUPE) 1200 employees into joining, and in two years time when the tender has to be put out to public tender if you lose the NHS contract to a private sector company you can swan off to get another NHS job, you still have your accrued NHS pension and you got 1200 employees including district nurses, school nurses etc. off the NHS books and on the Job Centres books.

  136. 136
    IQ 100 says:

    Definition:-

    Pre-preredistribution.

    Taking the silver spoon out of the baby’s mouth and giving it to a ‘poor’ child to eat their Cheerios with.

  137. 137
    Do not Underestimate Jezza says:

    Against the prevailing Lynch mob.

    I would like to point out that Jeremy Hunt delivered an Olympic games that is widely considered the best ever, on time and below budget.

    He persuaded the BBC to freeze their licence fee and there has been no drop in the quality of their programmes as a result of this.

    I look with interest to see what he can achieve with the NHS.

    I realise that Guido does not like Jeremy Hunt but in this instance I believe Guido is Miss Guided.

  138. 138
    jgm2 says:

    Nah. That’s ‘redistribution’.

    ‘Predistribution’ is where you don’t take the steel spoon out of the poor child’s mouth, send it off to HMRC, fill out a shit-load of forms and have them send you back a plastic spoon instead after they’ve deducted all their administrative costs.

  139. 139
    jgm2 says:

    I would like to point out that Jeremy Hunt delivered an Olympic games that is widely considered the best ever, on time and below budget.

    What part of this Olympic Games was ‘below budget’? I thought it was only going to cost 2bn quid or something when it was first proposed. Where are we now? 10bn? 15bn? 20bn?

  140. 140
    domino316 says:

    So presumably he thanked you for taking the fall then, did he Adam?

  141. 141
    IQ 100 says:

    Well said Lucia Liu

  142. 142
    welshwiz says:

    Let’s face it, the sole purpose of government is defence of the realm, policing and the justice system. Everything else is rascaldom designed to gouge us financially.

  143. 143
    Mercian says:

    If they don’t turn up for work they should be sacked, like anyone else would be.

  144. 144
    Anti Fabian says:

    By increasing the minimum wage they really mean increasing unemployment by pricing more and more marginal jobs out of existence.

  145. 145
    Norman Stanley Fletcher says:

    If you’re anything like Brown, company shuns you.

  146. 146
    Fuck the bbc says:

    That was jowell

  147. 147
    IQ 100 says:

    Nightlight

    Does ” Ordinary people” mean ‘ Everybody but me’ ?

  148. 148
    feel good... says:

    .
    .
    what would happen if no one voted?
    Dismiss the blessed for surely they cannot be rejected.

  149. 149
    Winners. Go to the back of the class says:

    So why is doing something well considered bad?

    Is it a disease that only inflicts Great Britain?

  150. 150
    Diane Abbott says:

    I would say that is taking it too far. The Government paid me to put my boy in boarding school.

  151. 151
    Morris Dancer watch says:

    What is ?

  152. 152
    Sherlock (no shit) says:

    Ta for clearing that up. I heard that Bіlly’s real name was Keith. Maybe it is.

  153. 153
    feel good... says:

    .
    .
    perhaps we could consider small patriotic society instead. what’s the point of being big headed?

  154. 154
    Bable Fish says:

    Just ignore it Eng, Ed Speak is no different to Nerd speak.

  155. 155
    The BBC says:

    PRE DISTRIBUTION is the WORD

    Ed Says so

  156. 156
    Your Friendly Neighbourhood Unemployed-PPE-Grad Service says:

    Actually, Rawls isn’t wrong in one sense– he was described as having said, in effect, if YOU want to be the one to cut the cake, then YOU get the last slice (a check-and-balance on “Distributive Justice”)– which would tend to make you want to even things out as much as possible, where and when possible. Why his thought experiment, “the original position/veil of ignorance,” fails, is that it presupposes that we already have some “knowledge” (which we think assists us in our coming into this enterprise) that some sort of “reform” is necessary in the first place and also presupposes that any person with any rationality would agree to go along with it. In other words, we can’t get there from here, by the experiment’s own terms. Rawls himself had to reformulate it into “Inequality is justified but only in case, and only to the extent that, attempts to redress the balance would worsen things for those least-well-off to start with.” Of course, Labour don’t (can’t?) see how anything they’re doing could worsen things for the least-well-off, and that’s why we are where we are.

  157. 157
    pundit - the original says:

    Oh FFS, if it doesn’t directly involve fleecing they’re Not Fucking Interested. Got it?

  158. 158
    feel good... says:

    .
    .
    Could it be that the price of freedom is to joyfully accept our own existence and forget the rest.

  159. 159
    The Hon. Comrade Loretto Fettes MP (Rottenborough East) says:

    Sssshhhh!!!!!

  160. 160
    A B Boyd says:

    It came in below the very latest budget projection. The fact that this had been regularly revised upwards while major items were kept off the books has nothing to do with it.

  161. 161
  162. 162
    Tel M Weartugo says:

    The establishment wants to squander a shed-load of our money on monitoring us all so that it can suppress all dissent and carry on with its criminal activities unabated :

    http://tinyurl.com/cd2bgle

  163. 163
    albacore says:

    Predistribution’s the name of the game
    Whatever you do, you get paid the same
    You can see the attraction for our MPs
    They’d be overstretched cleaning lavatories

  164. 164
    BOB CROW says:

    MPS SHOULD ASPIRE TO THE THRONE ROOM AND LOOK UP TO MY DAD.

  165. 165

    I have a problem with two of the terms you use here.

    1.) price does that mean its cost or value? Two differennt concepts.

    2. the rest does that mean all other people, only those we do not care for, or something else completely?

  166. 166
    Archer Karcher says:

    And that’s just the Eagle brothers.

  167. 167

    Or indeed vice versa

  168. 168
    Archer Karcher says:

    Yes but the Greens have 600+ enablers from the existing HoC, in all three parties.

  169. 169
    Archer Karcher says:

    Socialist policy is to destroy everything. The only way they can survive is with millions in poverty or state dependent.

  170. 170
    Europewatch says:

    Bankers started using words like sub-prime and CFD’s (contracts for difference) and we all know how that ended up. Politician use words like pre-distribution in order to try to make people believe they have invented something new when all they are doing is repeating the same mistakes they made before but using different words to make them.

    Meanwhile in Eurogagaland, something the MSM are keen to avoid as much as possible, the European Central Bank have come up with the new term OMT (Outright Monetary Transactions).

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19507180

    Another trick that will give a short term lift but is no answer to the problem whatsoever.

    When people start using fancy terms and phrases you can be sure it is a big con trick.

  171. 171
    Archer Karcher says:

    Three parties?

    I was under the impression that there were three wings of the same party, competing for the best way to install an unelected and unremovable socialist dictatorship.

  172. 172
    Europewatch says:

    And the Commons is empty because the MPs know they have feck all to do. All the big decisions are made in a higher place. And so the likes of Guido are reduced to discussing the price of ties and the motes in the eyes of British MPs (at least compared to the planks in the eyes of our masters).

  173. 173
    UKIP.i.am.awake says:

    No I haven’t got it. The feckers have pinched it off me.

    Predistribution is a term used to try to make people believe that Labour are not returning to their old nasty ways of destroying whole swathes of British industry (OK I exaggerate – we haven’t got whole swathes left) in order to appease their bosses, UNITE,etc. by paying workers more money so the companies they work for can’t compete with foreign competition and so go bust.

    Been there before. Done that. Got the T-shirt.

  174. 174

    Agree.

    As an ex-banker from 2000, I found that those left in the game would claim that these new instruments were much too difficult for ordinary people to understand.

    My experience in the whole of life is that when such claims are made, they are a cover up for dishonesty or outright fraud.

    Top level understanding of any subject is very simple IMO. Sure it can sometimes get very complicated when you drill down a bit but if anything starts off at high level as being complex, then beware.

  175. 175
    HenryV says:

    They are probably at their local BUPA or Harley Street medical practice seeing their doctors.

  176. 176
    JH says:

    Crosses fingers. If the bruvvers can really be pulling the strings in a couple of years, Labour will be fucked for a generation.

  177. 177
    Standard Lefty Simpleton says:

    We taxed ourselves into this recession, and by god we’ll tax our way out of it !

  178. 178

    THE millionaire Tory Chancellor made a rare visit to Scotland yesterday Scottish Daily Record

    Language of envy at work. Who wants to be a millionaire? Seriously…

  179. 179
    Standard Lefty Simpleton says:

    We are all out and about in the countryside trying to find one of the magic money trees. No luck yet, but we know they are out there somewhere.

  180. 180
    Standard Lefty Simpleton says:

    Well, we haven’t heard Ed Balls calling for some more neo-endogenous growth for some time. I wonder why, it seemed like a great idea.

  181. 181
    Tony Blair says:

    I did.

  182. 182
    Lord Fondlebottom says:

    I’m right behind you, Tony

  183. 183
    Standard Lefty Simpleton says:

    Red Ken’s budget was blown at £9 billion, current estimates are between £15 and £24 billion.

  184. 184
    Lord Sainsbury says:

    What you need are some magic beans. There are plenty in my shops.

  185. 185
    Lord Sainsbury says:

    They can be found on our predistribution shelves.

  186. 186

    over there >>>>>

    no wrong that way <<<<<

    look up ^^^^^^

    no not that way vvvvvvvvv

    doh!

  187. 187
    know thine enemy says:

    Little or no opposition?
    They were all probably consulting Len to ask how they should procede.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/sep/07/unite-union-leader-warns-public-sector-strikes

  188. 188
    Lord Sainsbury says:

    Golden geese going cheeep! Sold as seconds due to speech impediment.

  189. 189
    nigel age 17 and 3/4 says:

    they don’t write them like that no more
    for edyookayshun is such a bore
    my brane is want to hurting
    it makes me pant and grunt
    and anyway they’ll give any job to which i might aspire
    to some afro or indian immygrant

  190. 190
    smoggie says:

    It’s the Mekon, Dan Dare’s nemesis.

  191. 191
    smoggie says:

    As long as he keeps sending them shitloads of money, why the fuck do the jockoes care?

  192. 192
    What's the Bloody Point? says:

    Yep, the clown politicos pissed away three centuries of national wealth creation (and don’t just mean the cash, but the whole nation building that took place from 1600s onwards, the culture, the social structure, sense of Britishness, certainly a whole generation of our very best people) by going to get some Belgiums and French c_unts out of the shit who I seem to recall love to fuck us over every chance they get since. We really should have let the Germans have France in 1914, there would have been a similar settlement as the earlier FrancoPrussin war. Just think of it no WW1, no communism, no facism no WW2. Brtain would most likely have changed the Empire to a more commercial/economic federation by the mid 20th C and would have still been a true economic power in the world. Very sad indeed.

  193. 193
    UKIP.i.am.awake says:

    Hope you like sandywinder’s entry.

  194. 194
    SPADS DEEP says:

    “How Much Do Labour Love the NHS?”

    A bit more than the two sleeping Tories i would suggest !

    What a fucking farce , we pay these idle fuckers up to £250,000 a year each to do What ?

  195. 195
    brown-dog says:

    The EU/EZ have just found their magic money tree inside the ECB, courtesy of (ex Goldman Sachs banker) Super Mario.

    Isn’t it funny how magic money trees can be found when the banks need bailing out, however, when the proles need srvices like health and education, it’s all just cuts, cuts and more cuts.

  196. 196
    Forkbender says:

    What a Viet Cong

  197. 197
    Spartacus says:

    i’m guessing under the common market directives, that is a metric tad?

  198. 198
    Forkbender says:

    EP you personally remeber that, you must be at least 70

  199. 199
    SP4BS says:

    “If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can’t understand it, take it from me: it’s all balls.”

    — R. J. Mitchell, advice given about his engineering staff to test pilot Jeffrey Quill during prototype trials

  200. 200
    UKIP.i.am.awake says:

    And there was me thinking it was the highly indebted, high spending, high borrowing bankrupt European states like Spain, Italy, Greece, etc who needed the bail- outs. Otherwise why doesn’t Spain bail-out its own banks?

  201. 201
    Death by a 1000 cuts says:

    Camerozza’s Plan to save Britain from Economic Gloom and Depression!

    1. Encourage people to build tarted up greenhouses (‘Conservatories’ sic) paid for by them borrowing Camerozza’s half-arsed funny money!

    2. Err … that’s it

  202. 202
    Forkbender says:

    Yes Annette, it seems reminiscent of our dear leader Dave, constantly being been blown about by the wind, first this way, then that

  203. 203
    Tory Toff says:

    Serves them right! hah ah hahah!

  204. 204
    Forkbender says:

    When an MP is boozing he is “working”, when he is stuffing himself with subsidised in the HoC he is working, when he is going on overseas tours (mainly exotic countries) he is working, when he is driving his car to some function pid for by someone else he is working. Anyone interested in being a hard working MP with expenses and allowances most constituents could only dream of, WAIT FOR IT, apply to you local political party

  205. 205
    gordon brownstain says:

    only a thick piece of brownshit would say “in your dreams” like some fucking pleb in a shellsuit. i mean either say something clever or something uttery dull but just chipping in with some mid atlantic thid rate pisspoor taunt shows you up for what you really are…a piece of congealed shit wedged in ed bollocks arsecrack since christmas…in other words, you are Yvette. cheers!

  206. 206
    SPADS DEEP says:

    Fill said greenhouses/sheds with illegal immigrunts charge £800 per month help pay your mortgage / holidays

  207. 207
    gordon brownstain says:

    you are one of the thousand cnuts

  208. 208
    Working man says:

    Lend us a few quid Bob?

  209. 209
    Time 2 CTRL, ALT & DEL says:

    thier non attendance – isn’t that what the post is about
    The picture just gives you a view of Labour benches post 2014 (hopefullY)

  210. 210
    headmistress says:

    Forky, THAT is precisely why he is educated. Get it??

  211. 211
    ho hum says:

    It was an excellent time to have passed a three line Bill stating that all laws passed since 1,1,97 are hereby repealed. Useless lot aren’t they?

  212. 212
    ho hum says:

    Monica says she is voting Repubican as the Democrats left a nasty taste in her mouth.

  213. 213
    ho hum says:

    Oh sh*t!! RepubLican !!

  214. 214
    ho hum says:

    100% of T-shirts world wide are made in China these days.

  215. 215
    ho hum says:

    No, clearly you don’t understand. The ECB will just buy everyone’s bonds, buy everyone’s bonds, buy everyone’s bonds, buy everyone’s bonds.

    Pity the boss didn’t mention where all this cash is to come from over the next 100 years or so – or that the first pre-requisite is that every country in the Eurozone hands over its fiscal sovereignty to a bunch of unelected *ankers.

    Happily, there is a good chance that Murky will veto this idea as it is ze Krauts who vill haf to pay zees bills.

    Ve velkum you to ze clowd kuku landesbank.

  216. 216
    Sir Dean Ronni says:

    Which is why that nice lady Nadine offers them “more wine?”!

  217. 217
    Sir Dean Ronni says:

    I think it was established here that most Lab MPs are English. Which is why they have no interest in the NHS them being Lab MPs.

  218. 218
    Expat Geordie says:

    I recall buying a few olive green US forces tee-shirts from a PX at a USAF base in East Anglia back in 1988. They were made in POLAND, which was still a communist country at the time.


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