September 5th, 2012

Ed: Gordon Was Politically Crackers

Ed’s back to school interview in the New Statesman is a growing source of amusement this afternoon. The Labour leader used an interesting choice of words to attack the former Prime Mentalist’s government:

“There’s one way that says you just set lots of targets centrally and that’s the way you make public services work. That’s the Brown model, slightly caricatured. If we came along and said ‘look, we can just carry on like the last Labour government did’ – I mean it’s politically crackers to do that, because we wouldn’t win the election and we wouldn’t deserve to win the election.”

Meanwhile it seems the party’s new mantra for the coming months will be “predistribution not redistribution”. As Dave said at PMQs, they had all summer to come up with that…

PMQs pic via @OnTablets


  1. 1
    Gordon Brown says:

    my pants are stuck up my crack


    • 4
      Ed to Ed says:

      That’s because your nappy has been put on back to front


    • 9
      Liarpoliticians says:

      All hail Gordon Brown! Economic saviour of planet Earth, purveyor of the money laundering fraud that is Quantitative Easing, saved the fraudster banks, but collapsed economies….. it was a price worth paying!


      • 32
        AC1 says:

        Q.E. Is writing a cheque to pay off your loans.

        We are exchanging long term fixed interest debts for shorter term ones.

        This means when interest rates start to rise (as they are) “we”* will face a massive bill.

        *The bondholding classes will make out like bandits as usual.


        • 46
          Yeah, right... says:

          Please explain this to a simple country boy.

          I would have assumed that as/if interest rates rise, and cash deposits pay more, Gilts yielding 1.8% would not be in demand and the only buyers would demand a hefty discount on face value to earn the equivalent yield.

          Wouldn’t gilt prices fall?


          • AC1 says:

            But all the Gilts yielding 1.8% will expire and new gilts to roll the borrowing will have to be auctioned, and that will happen at a higher price tag.


          • says:

            Like a stone. And that will create yet another financial crisis. Kicking the can down the road is no substitute to actually tackling a problem. In this case the problem is too much debt and far too much public spending.


          • says:

            But all the Gilts yielding 1.8% will expire ….

            But they won’t all expire at the same time. Some may take 20 years to expire, and in the mean time all those that are not maturing within a year or two will crash in price. This will damage pensions and savings. As if those coming up to retirement have not already suffered enough.


  2. 2
    Kebab Time says:

    So Brown was Bonkers!


    • 34
      AC1 says:

      No-one doubted that.


      • 52
        JadedJean says:

        No it’s worse than that. They are ALL psychopaths.

        Has anyone else listened to R4’s Today programme/series this week on the dramatic leaps being made in understanding brain function via advances in MRI brain imaging and genetic mapping coupled with general advances in the entire neuroscience field.

        Psychology is “bunk” (most psychologists are women btw).

        Slowly but surely the truth about how the deranged are selected and elevated to positions of power within the party political system will be uncovered one day (hopefully not too far off).


    • 69
      Hugh Janus says:

      Yes, he was completely barking, but I can still see those idiotic brainless Liebour types at one of their ghastly conference sessions on TV praising Gordon McPonzi-Brown to the rooftops as the best chancellor in god-knows how many centuries.

      In other words they were all – and still are – completely mad too. Such people should never be allowed anywhere near public office ever again.


  3. 3
    Gordon Brown-Stuff says:

    The truth is….I was only really any good at being a Number Two


  4. 5
    stoptalkingballs says:

    sounds like perfect sense to me – and he had Cameron at PMQs, again


  5. 6
    Lord Scalded Bollock says:

    I’m dying to see a picture of @ontablets.

    Is it man,woman or beast ?


  6. 7
    Ed Miliband says:

    I’m butch.


  7. 11
    Interesting Idea says:


    • 91
      Fobod Carruthers says:

      Because Dave moved ‘em on. Bloody good riddance too.

      Be nice if they pulled out of the coalition too so Dave could get on with sorting out the country.


  8. 12
    Hollywood producers have found a replacement for Christan Bale as Batman says:


  9. 13
    Well it's a thought says:

    So those two tossers knew loony Broon tunes was mad and they still let him become the PM, nice people!.


  10. 14

    In our time political speech and writing are largely the defence of the indefensible.

    George Orwell 1946


    • 21
      Anonymous says:

      Sod off know-it-all.

      SC’s former teaher.


    • 35
      AC1 says:

      It seems it’s also a time of universal deceit.


    • 39
      AC1 says:

      Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.

      This is known as “bad luck.”
      Robert Heinlein


    • 40
      AC1 says:

      Thróúghóút hístóry, póvérty ís thé nórmál cóndítíón óf mán. ádváncés whích pérmít thís nórm tó bé éxcéédéd — héré ánd théré, nów ánd thén — áré thé wórk óf án éxtrémély smáll mínóríty, fréqúéntly déspíséd, óftén cóndémnéd, ánd álmóst álwáys óppóséd by áll ríght-thínkíng péóplé. Whénévér thís tíny mínóríty ís képt fróm créátíng, ór (ás sómétímés háppéns) ís drívén óút óf á sócíéty, thé péóplé thén slíp báck íntó ábjéct póvérty.

      Thís ís knówn ás “bád lúck.”
      Róbért Héínléín


  11. 17
    W.W. says:

    This is the great dillema of our age, because Cameron and osbourne may well be useless.

    But the alternative is literally worse than useless, far, far worse.

    Saying that they will probably win the next election, fortuantly I am past caring.



  12. 18
    Zeenile De Mensha says:

    Why does Miliband still have the Brownite Loyalist Balls as his chancellor? Crackers.


  13. 19
    Broadsword calling Danny Boy says:

    And bears defecate in the woods and I wonder what religious group the Pope is a member of!


    • 45
      Archer Karcher says:

      Not sure about the Pope’s religious affiliation, but we can be sure of one thing, he was a Nazi.


      • 68
        Anon Politician says:

        Which reminds me, can you bring your high pressure nozzle round here please. My patio’s gone very green and I could do with a spray.


  14. 20

    The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one’s real and one’s declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink.

    George Orwell


  15. 22
    Ronald Biggs TV star says:

    All I did was forclose £6.75m on the bank of England.
    You fuckers hose £Trillions down the sluice and fuck all is said, mental or not.
    Isn’t it about time Slipper’s men handed back the ‘missing’ £4.25m?


  16. 27
    plan beta says:

    New Statesman article at least explains that Ed does not have a blank sheet of paper any more.
    Just one with every considered suggested proposal crossed out as being impossible to implement.


  17. 28
    SP4BS says:

    the house of parliment’s two worse orgasm faces.


  18. 31

    George Orwell was one of the first people to die at the hand of the NHS.

    Suffering from tuberculosis, the nationalisation of the health service combined with the post-war rationing of everything meant that he could not obtain the antibiotics to fight the disease.

    They omitted to mention that at the Olympics opening ceremony, I seem to remember.


    • 38
      AC1 says:

      Rather Ironic, as I think Orwell was still a bit of a lefty despite his experience. It seems it truly is a religion.


      • 43

        Indeed, AC1, your are quite correct. Even more ironically he wrote The trouble with competition is that somebody has to win. He lost his very battle for life due to state planning.


        • 50
          SP4BS says:

          A Fairly ridiculous conclusion. considering the complexity of the situation at the time. Without the NHS would he have been able to walk up to a doctors and get the treatment? He certainly wouldn’t have in 1947.


      • 55
        JadedJean says:

        Orwell was an anarchist.

        1984 was all about putting people off central planning and totaltarianism just like Heyeks GM cartoon – The Road to Serfdom.

        He was the original libertarian.


        • 72
          The late Eric Blair says:

          Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic Socialism, as I understand it.


          • The Unfortunately Not-So-Late Tony Blair says:

            Every bit of serious work I have been doing since 2007 has been for lining my pockets.


    • 41
      SP4BS says:

      I wonder how long it took to treat the vast numbers of people in britain with antibiotic which only became available in the very late 40’s.


  19. 33
    Gordon Brown MP says:

    But I was crackers!


    • 82
      Lou Scannon says:

      Nuts + crackers – some people could achieve a worthwhile outcome with that combination, but not you, Gordon.


  20. 54
    horehound says:

    OFT to investigate retailers over price of fuel, I don’t think the retailers are the problem


  21. 57
    Sid and Doris from east grinstead says:

    same old crap…different day…ed and ed should just give up ..they just aren’t working


    • 87
      Zoog says:

      Bit like Dave over the summer – with his appearence at the olympics more frequent than the BBC, followed by hoidays, and now multiple Paraolympic appearences the recession must be over, clearly Dave feels no-one in government needs to work – Come on Boris!


  22. 62 says:

    WTF does predistribution mean? Labour’s idea of redistribution means sharing the proceeds of wealth earned by others without bothering to invest any of it for the future. That is socialism. Feck future generations who are left with the bill. Let’s spend it all now. Oh and we won’t give a toss about how much debt we get into. The dumb-suckers at the tit can worry about that.

    So what is predistribution? Spreading the nation’s wealth around BEFORE it is earned by others?


  23. 65
    Harriet Cass and Charlotte Green says:

    We’ve had enough of the stuff we have to spout. Used to be fine in the old Radio 4 and Home Service days but now….
    So we’re taking early retirement and our clear voices are going with us.


  24. 77
    Pentangelis says:

    This is the classic stance of this disingenuous little turd! If GB’s policies were crackers, then why was his head so far up GB’s arse that he couldn’t even hear the Division Bell.
    Now he tells us, so what are we to make of him? Either monumentally stupid then or even more so now. Either way he’s not fit for listening to, let alone purpose!


  25. 84
    fuck the bbc says:

    Picture Flanders bent over in the middle with Balls and Miliband (complete with specs) sweating heavily at either end …..


  26. 86
    Zoog says:

    Well Dave did ask the question at PMQ “what have Labour been doing all summer?” At least we know what he was doing: he was at the Olympics most days (bloody lucky with the ticket allocation), followed by holidays at the same time as his deputy, followed by most days at the Paraolympics. A few months ago some Tory young guns wrote about the poor work ethic of our workforce…… I guess I know who they were actually writing about……… Dave!


  27. 93
    filipinomonkey says:

    He’s right on one point though, centrally imposed performance targets with penalties for failure and inducements for success are the easiest ways to screw up the performance of any system.

    Anyone who has lived in such a regime soon learns how to game the system, whether it be private or public sector.

    South Staffs hospital, 1200 deaths in 4 years, and unlike the Taliban not an AK47 in sight.


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