Harriet Harman’s Gambling Problem
Earlier this month Harriet Harman attacked the apparent evils of gambling, laying in to Labour’s own record on betting shops and casinos while she was in office:
“I think we were wrong to liberalise gambling. We have made a mistake and we need to do something about it. If we had known then what we know now, we wouldn’t have allowed this. It’s not just ruining the high street, it’s ruining people’s lives.”
All bets are off for Labour’s deputy leader however, with Luciana Berger revealing the party’s new line on gambling on a visit to a local Labdrokes:
“I was interested to hear and learn more about the betting industry and I was impressed with not only the level of service and activities provided, but also with the responsible procedures in place to tackle under-age and problem gambling.”
Craps…
Labour.
The party of consistency and moral principles. Please choose which set you want. Any colour you like. They are all the same.
I’m just wild about Harry.
Where’s me spurs n six shooter?
Berger was director of Labour Friends of Is’rael and also a committee member of the London Je’wish Forum. It would seem that affiliations was such groups are now prerequisites for Labour Party candidate selection for the HoC these days.
She was also private school educated as well…don’t do as we do…do as we say.
The promotion of gambling and profiteering will of course keep some in society very happy indeed.
Oy Vey! You gotta pick a pocket or two.
There are nearly 40 J*wish MPs in parliament i.e. approx 6% of the total, yet as a proportion of the UK population, J*ws only make up around 0.5% of the total.
Either there is some inate advantage of being J*wish or there must be some positive discrimination going on!?!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_J*wish_politicians
Refutations welcome.
While your on it can you also let us know what is the proportional split between Catholic jews and Protestant jews?
As far as I’m aware, Catholics and Protestants are not classes of ethnicity.
Theres probably something about the mildly religious that makes them earnest enough to be MPs.
I don’t think I knew anyone that was particularly religious at school, and the kid I forgot about, who looks like a brand new vicar, happens to be an MP. He had some fanciful “public service” notion as a reason to go into politics.
What about Dominic Raab? A fully paid-up member of the Nasty Party if ever there was one.
and the religion of P#eace has how many Parliamentarians?
Too many
Has Hatey found my Moral Compass?
Brinks Matt 3 tons, Gordon Brown 400 tons.
Great train robbery £2.6 million, Gordoom untold billions.
I found it. You’d got poo all over it again.
Scattie Hattie’s anti gambling moutwash will be ‘reported’ by the Bbbc, the other finger’s wont.
Nice to know that Harm-Mens Labour are the party that hates peoples choices.
Nanny state. Want to pay off the state’s debt quickly?
Auction the right to piss on hypocritical MPs graves, oh and give them a “nudge” towards it.
I was always first past the post. Nay. Nay. And thrice nay.
Labour gambled with dodgy dossiers and illegal invasions.
Labour gambled with the British economy and the public finances.
Labour gambled with troops in unarmoured vehicles in Afghanistan.
Labour gambled with City deregulation and failed bank bail outs.
All very true and still dodgy Dave could not beat them outright.
Surely you can’t blame me for protecting my future employment prospects?
We like to think we played a large part in that.
Maybe, but Dismal Dave still wuvs you, so no need to worry.
They didn’t gamble with the economy, the deliberately malinvested in fecklessness and sloth.
Then like all ponzi schemes they conspired to cover up the losses (the massive growth in state debt).
I say, the green economy is booming!
My job’s safe ! Shame about poor old Chris Hoon.
Lab: Rob the workers for the feckless.
Con: Rob the workers for the landed gentry.
Libdumb: Rob the workers for the workers.
i would like to gambol with Harriet’s clitoris.
jack the ballsack dromedary is onto a good thing there, the lucky bastard…
Which planet does this Harman being come from anyhow ?
You know where to find me!
The biggest Gamble the British electorate can make – for their future – is to elect another Labour/Left wing government.
That wouldn’t be gambling – that would be self-harming.
How about combining the two, and call it Russian Rouletteski?
Better a gamble than the certainty of Tory/Cameron incompetence?
I’d rather a small loss with Cameron than more Labour bankruptcy.
Not really.
Someone who is inept can only harm occasionally. Labour party are malicious at harming, it’s the only thing they can do well.
How could the labour government have known that uncontrolled gambling could cause harm?
Or that uncontrolled immigration could have caused so many problems.
And 40% + of voters would vote for them!
Hi !!!
In answer to your first, second and third questions, – I just inwardly knew it was The Right Thing To Do – I’m a Conviction Politician you know!
And I’m very VERY RICH !!!
Must fly
Bye!
You sure are Tony, let’s all hope you end up with a conviction at the Hague!
Uncontrolled Gambling hasn’t caused harm. Uncontrolled debt has.
Meet the new Harman,
Same as the old Harman.
I wish she would self harm!
There was once a time when Labour was said to owe more to Methodism than Marxism. But Blair’s introduction of crony capitalism beats them all.
B’Liar was CoE but decided he really was Roman Catholic
Really…I thought he converted to Judaism on the banks of the River Jordan!
Tony Blair is godfather to Murdoch’s daughter? Now it all makes sense
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/sep/05/tony-blair-godfather-murdoch-daughter
Bliar believes in nothing, other than self enrichment. Everything else is secondary.
blair is nothing
things can only bedwetter
It’s more fascism than capitalism.
State involvement in industry, society, child-care, leisure, travel.
Name something the state doesn’t try and meddle in?
What we have had is capitalism letting rip and that has morphed into facism. In fact it’s free market anarchism (i.e. without rule). Blair/Brown deregulated the City…then looked wht happened
But state involvement in industry…pull the other one, it’s got bells on.
Rail denationalised -> Prices up 10% yoy
Coal denationalised
Power generation denationalised- >prices up 10% yoy
Utilities denationalised -> prices up 10% yoy
Telecoms denationalised
Motor industry denationalised
Blair Brown massively regulated all aspects of finance.
They deliberately maximised Credit, and regulated it into existence.
The way of the World. Things go up in price. Have you not noticed , even prior to denationalization . When I a lad was in the late 40s, you could get into a Cinema for 6d., you could get a small bag of chips for threepence. Try that in your glory day of State Ownership .
There was once a time when Labour was said to owe more to Methodism than Marxism. But Blair’s introduction of crony capitalism beats them all.
Now it owes more to Mammon. We have no problem with people becoming filthy rich as Mammon worship peer Peter Mandleson said.
A betting shop on every corner of every street – the Labour Party’s gift to the working class it cares about so much.
You are mistaking Labour for New Labour
As so many mistake Conservatives for these twats.
remember the rule: only by reading socialism backwards does it sense make
Cared so much it buggered up our Clubs and life’s little pleasures – wankers!
The problem lies with installing a one-eyed bandit instead of continuing with just the one arm bandits.
I suppose 7 years would be favourite today.
Yes on each charge proved guilty to run consecutively.
Looks like that deal we set up Asil for you to invest in my boys, building blocks of flats for asylum seekers, is off. Unless of course you have got something tucked away, let me know if you have. Boaz.
Whilst making a call in a phonebox, I noticed an advert by a young woman offering O and A Levels. Funny way for a school to advertise.
Roger, best you keep your thoughts to yourself.
I notice that Driving instructors also advertise
That school’s either fucked or buggered.
Was Boris Johnson also advertised?
DUGOA. Don’t unseat George Osborne Association. Has a certain ring to it.
Never heard of it, Gideon has learnt from Gordon and apparently borrowing more than Gordoon
So Berger’s impressed with what the Gambling industry does? Can’t be too hard for someone picked to represent a Liverpool constituency who didn’t know who Bill Shankly was or who sung Ferry Cross the Mersey. I’d say what she knows about gambling problems could be written on the back of postage stamp along with what she knows about Liverpool as well.
Not often I’d say Harman’s got it right but on this occasion she’s the one who’s spot on
Well said that man
What else have welfare dependents to do with their hand-outs?
“I was interested to hear and learn more about the betting industry…”
Translation: “I hadn’t a clue what a betting shop was until a couple of hours ago but, hey, here’s a silly pledge card and a friendly snapper so, like, go for it, guys!”
it sticks in my throat to say anything positive about Harman, but fair play to her for admitting they were wrong on this (of course they were wrong on so many other things too, but hey…)
Agree with you. So, this is the twonk who didn’t know who Shankley was , but who presumably thinks she has sufficient knowledge and leadership experience to make a meaningful contribution to guiding our futures.
Anyone who wants to be an MP, almost certainly shouldn’t be allowed to be. Possibly change the MP selection system to a jury type requirement to serve , only limited to those paying local rates in the top two bands.
Folks have gambled ever since thought he could get something for next to nothing, Harman does have a point there seem to be as many bookies shops as estate agents in the high streets as well as back roads, the problem with gambling is when folks cannot stop even though they are losing with disastrous consquences. In my own mind I call betting shops “sad shops” those that go to them don’t seem very happy, except the bookie
I agree. There isn’t much difference between problem drinkers, drug abusers and gamblers. Making it easier for them to gamble is bad. Just saying ‘the war on gambling/drugs has been lost – so let’s make it even easier for people to become addicted’ is not a sensible policy.
I’m mildly surprised. I wouldnt say stuff like that on a Libertarian blog.
Don’t be so suprised Guido tkes adverts from bookies, that’s ok for those who can afford to gamble or have no gambling addiction as a lot of correspondents hopefully do not have.
I would imagine that Guido would think that bookies should be open as much as they like, wherever they like, and its up to the individual to be sensible.
I personally am pretty agnostic on this, partly because I’ve avoided gambling myself, and nobody I know has had a serious gambling problem. It would be trolling/play devils advocate by shouting “nanny knows best”. So I won’t.
Don’t betting shops generate lots of tax? The working classes doing their bit to save the country from the shit the bankers got us into.
Moose, it is not just the working class, it affects all classes, fortunes have been lost, it’s one of those things that affects the nobs, the snobs and the yobs, they just get caught up in it then they are hooked. How many have you heard say after they come out of the bookies I’ve won £500 but when ask them how much they have lost before the big win, they say lots, could be called the bookies turn (and he always wins in the long run)
Any that, Uri, is where the current situation goes wrong. The ‘lower orders’ are vilified on this blog, but putting them out of work (Tory policy) denies the Chancellor of income tax, VAT, NI, booze & fag tax, petrol duty, plus all of the things they buy day by day, because by nature they don’t save, closes shops, pubs, etc.
The lower orders unwittingly drive the economy by their own consumption, and by hitting them the country suffers.
Anon this is called the consumer society not the demand economy, but in a way you have a point, the Tories favourite tax is VAT therefore if folks do not spend the VAT returns are lower, fuel is vatted at 5% just watch that figure suddenly nudge upwards folks have to pay for heating lighting etc they have no escape, non vatable items like food, newspapers must be a tempation for Gideon
Is that why the gambler Brown encouraged the banks to take such reckless risks? Because of all the tax that was flooding into the Treasury from them for so long?
Encouraged? More like forced.
The state controls the systematic volume of debt, banks allocate debt.
Gordo wanted to loot borrowers, and banks didn’t mind getting their cut either.
Increasing debt forced down interest rates below the real default risk rate. After that the bust was inevitable.
The Labour Party passed the legislation that allowed the streets to become lined with off-licences and betting shops.
silly sods. they could have just removed legislation to make that happen.
In Liverpool they’re still out-numbered by Tanning Parlours.
Those nasty betting shops forcing people to go into them.
Modest Proposal: As the BoE regulates interest rates and thus tries to regulate risk (it can’t) maybe the Government should do the same with betting and make odds rather than those nasty markets doing it.
Luciana is odds on favourite to win this one. By a nose.
Impossible. After being stabled with Sion Simon and Chucka it’s probable she’s been nobbled
“If we had known then what we know now” = “when we wilfully ignored all the expert evidence and representations made during the consultation period.”
BBC Breakfast right now is interviewing the creator and lead actor of a new BBC sitcom about a muslim family called Citizen Khan. A good old bit of propaganda which shows a nice cuddly muslim family with lots of harmless innocent fun for all ages! I guess it won’t be tackling issues like female genital mutilation, child marriage, suicide bombers, forced marriages and terrorism.
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I doubt whether cynical manipulation of the Race Relations industry will be covered either.
Anf their profound love of homosexuals.
18 hours a day praying and eating curry doesn’t seem very entertaining.
Indians eat curry, not muzbots.
Funny that. Do they just make curries for white people in Bradford (*) then?
(*) Other northern towns are available.
Postal votes?
Will an episode feature child molesting in Rochdale?
Ram a Dan?
Or animals having their throats slit and being bled to death hung upside down while a bearded loon shouts mumbo jumbo.
How about worshipping a p43d0ph1l3 prophet and claiming he led a perfect life to emulate?
No chance of it being set in Liverpool.
Agreed. Arabic is a difficult language, but Gerrard and Carrick are totally unintelligible.
Canada has had one of these for many a yonk. It’s the most seriously unfunny sitcom in the known universe called “Little Mosque on the Prairie” and it’s as dire as the title!
Hattie/Lucinda have just illustrated the problems of running policy off a blank piece of paper.
Not so sure about the blank piece of paper, governments over the past few years seem to try work out things on the back of fag packets, mix them up, then lose 6 vital fag packets in their collection, no wonder policies are not joined up and disjointed.
Justifiable complaints about “fag packet” policy has normally meant demonisation by kept journos, such as : He’s mad, He tucks his shirt in his underpants, she slept with all of the department, takes drugs, racist, fascist, unhinged, overly ambitious etc…..
Me so horny.
I won an all women short list.
We didn’t half kick-up a stink about that.
Nepotism replaces competence in all left wing environments.
If Harriet catches up with the Hare I fear for the animal’s safety.
As with all Labour politicians she is a cheat, a thief, a liar and a pirate.
They are only concerned with maintaining and furthering the dependency and poverty of their voters and stoking the fires of resentment in their breasts. Just go and take a look around the Labour heartlands.
If they had any morals (especially Harman) then they would see what their actions have done, apologise, resign and remove themselves from politics. Instead what do we see? A u turn in their thinking and an expectation that voters should once again vote for them.
Once a cheat – always a cheat.
‘If they had any morals’… That’s precisely why they are,what they are and where they are isn’t it?
Why no media coverage for us ?
Cos Malcolm Rifkind didn’t turn up?
I bet the proverbial will fly off the fan over this one!
for all those interested in real news
here is a copy of the ATOS computer programme
http://issuu.com/atosvictims/docs/lima-v2-technical-manual
you know the one they use to deny disabled people benefits courtesy of the DWP. Notice how the emphasis is on the ‘positive’ all the time with scant regard for individuals ‘real’ and sometimes ‘negative’ experience
I couldn’t give ATOS about it….now fuck off.
I have ticked the box and have done my job.
Unemployment is a price worth paying
All those disabled people who appear in high unemployment areas….
Back backs must be caused by strenuously lifting the sky box remote control.
Chris Grayling is doing “all we can” to get them off benefits and into real jobs.
I just wonder whether they have priority over able bodied unemployed.
They have extra points in victimhood poker so it’s likely have priority over able bodied unemployed
Looks like she’s holding a betting slip showing shes take an ‘ each-way’ bet on Labour winning the next election. Now THAT’S clever.
Socialist have always been suckers for the odds.
Or, for having it both ways.
i wouldn’t mind having her both ways
she gives me the horn
big schnozz (obviously), but I’d fuck her up the arse
I love having a Tommy Tank.
I bullied the little boy up t’ road to get it. That’s the way to get on.
Here’s a little dosh for you hinny !!
Why are we hearing about the Labour party?
They should all be completing at the Paralympics.
Load of fucking spastics.
They are. They are entered in the two-Edded event.
Not forgetting Harriet Armless.
2015 does look like a paralection.
BTW less of the Tat talk.
Attempts are being made to force me to watch these games. I’m resisting.
When labour left office in 2010 they had gambled away £800 billion of our money. As Liam Byrne said on departing ” there is no money left”. Why would anyone want labour back in office? It would be too much of a gamble to have the Casino Eds in power.
Because they have all drunk from the poisoned well. That is they drink up whatever the Bbbc tells them.
There’s not enough space to list all the other crap policies Liarbour enacted: open borders, the banks, privatisation……………
Especially as Gambling de-meddling and normalising the business taxation was not a crap policy.
Glad to see Labour is helping to pay for the site, Guido.
All contributions…
I once heard that Jowett woman describe the National Lottery as “good fun ” .
I once saw a work colleague with a wife and two kids get paid in cash in the morning and put it all in a one arm bandit the same night.
That was really funny !
As I said to Edwina. It could be you.
I don’t think that’s funny!
The problem wasn’t the gambling, the problem was that this moron had 2 kids…
Tell the two kids that then.
Very true Guido. Labour are full of shite. Only a complete incompetent would fail to beat them in a public election.
I wrote to the home office and asked wether Gordon Brown and others were guilty of treason for deliberately ruining this country.
They told me to contact the police hahaha
dane
I am pretty sure that Luciana Berger is as full of shit as that daft cow Harperson.
The queen has instructed us to start legal proceedings against all British media outlets who showed pictures of Charlies boy in the buff
so get yer piggy bank out Guido !
One thing puzzles me though !
In my 55 years i have known some pretty lose women but don’t know many who would get their kit off and cavort naked in a room with other people taking photos
are the royal family worried that even worse pictures exist? or that this girl might just decide to “shag and tell”
Have to say. That my first thoughts were what about the piccys they have not published yet?
Sir Everard a minor factual correction is in order he’s not actually Charlie’s boy but the product of that bounder James Hewitt. Now he’s going wild sowing his seed around good Ole Texas and ruining the good Windsor/Battenburg reputation.
I had to use Charlies boy for two reasons
1 because you will relate it to the topic in question
2 because every time you mention Harry ! Fawkes fucking moderates it , and the post never appears , but hey i’m so glad now that the other nude pictures of Harry i put up were removed ,otherwise i too would have ended up in the dock with Mr Fawkes the only person in mainland Britain to publish them ! LOL !
Hattie Harperson and the labour party inconsistnnt? Surely not!
Right where is the jag? I’m off to see the union bruvers about me grace and favour house for life!
‘Ferry across the Aire’
I support the third team in Liverpool, Port Vale
The Sun is a great read
As Matt Busby said, football is more important than life and death
Fuck off and die of cancer of the colon.
It was Bill Shankly wot said that
Calm down. Calm down. Oops soz. Me bein a fully fledged scouser and all.
I have been looking after your car, miss .
Socialists are thick Hunts.
Is she still climbing Chuka’s greasy pole or has she moved on to pastures new?
She must be a competitor to the BBC’s Stephanie Flounders then who has climbed a few other Labour party poles.
You can’t be a bit of pole dancing to advance your career.
Can’t beat a greasy pole when it comes to promotion
Oi ! Who are you calling a greasy Pole ?
Two brainless women Libor gobs actually coming out and spouting more crap with real knowledge of nothing, hey Luci can you get me a cup of tea luv, Hattie doll a bacon sarny would be nice , thanks doll.
I gambled on clearing my name, and lost.
Yeah, tough, but thanks for the donation.
I speak as a Labour Party member. There is nothing wrong with betting and betting shops. The UK had 15,000 betting shops in the 60s / 70s, now there are less than 9,000.
Only a few Labour MPs have a problem with gambling / betting shops – Harman, Lammy, Abbott and Ruddock.
Their attitude is “oh, those terrible bookmakers pray of vunerable people (our constituents) and force them into betting shops and make them loose all their money” – what a patronising load of rubbish. It’s an attack on the working class.
Lammy – the reason there are no bookshops in your constituency is because your government education policy failed and there is no market for them.
Err…that would be New Labour party member…The old Labour party died when Blair revoked clause IV.
It is now just another liberal democratic/libertarian party.
Labour are Libertarian….
What colour is the sky in your universe!?
Extraordinary rendition = libertarian.
What colour is your sky ? Red, presumably.
You know, you must be using a new Labour Dictionary where words mean something different from the established meaning.
libertarian? Jog on mong?
Sorry anon but the betting shops of the 60′s were deliberately by statute made to be small , uncomfortable (no chairs) uninviting places where one would not wish to hang around. They bear no resemblence to the mini Las Vegases created by New Labour.
so an unfriendly shops has become more friendly – sh1t – that’s backward step!
~Wow you sound like one of those health nazis who welcomes the idiocy of the sale of ciggies behind panels etc.
Don’t like betting shops?
Don’t fancy betting?
Walk past them!
They’re vastly less annoying than that shop “Lush” that smells like Halabja.
If you won’t a good bet don’t bother with betting shops.
Just go short euros .
Well let’s face it labour are right at home in the gambling industry. gordon fecklessly gambled £billions of our money in the hope of holding onto power for ever , and lost.
If they ever get back into power they’ll do it all over again.
They will get back in power and I am emigrating.
Harman, mouth in over drive, brain in neutral.
O/T but isn’t it reassuring to know that the euro crisis has now been solved. I mean, it has hasn’t it? Because I haven’t heard anything about it in, oh, weeks, and all the politicians have gone off their holidays.
Crisis? What crisis?
I am back from my holidays.
I am going to create 150,000 new jobs for young people.
I have frozen petrol prices as I promised to do in May.
What is happening in Peugeot Citroen is unacceptable and I will continue to repeat this mantra even when the Bailiffs arrive
Ha! Zer vaiting is ova I hav made my last appeal to reason! Next, vee invade all over again zer stupid peeples!
Can I have some bail out money that I will never repay too, please .
Why doesn’t she die of co-lon canzer?
I bet my husband would get through an all women shortlist.
We both won that bet.
Dear Nurse,
I love myself very, very much.
Gordon
You are very lucky
The bookies have beefed-up their PR / PA operations this year through the Association of British Bookmakers and are getting some good results.