Invites have gone out today for a conspiratorial alternative Conservative Party conference to rival the real thing next month.
The one-day Windsor event calls for a renewal of Conservatism and boasts an all-star cast of sound speakers including James Delingpole, Matthew Elliott, Dan Hannan, Tim Montgomerie and Toby Young.
As for the rumours that top Tory donors are becoming more and more disgruntled with Dave?
The keynote speaker is one Lord Ashcroft…
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Andrew Pierce on Ed Balls…
“Porky Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls sweet-talked guests at a fund-raising dinner by saying if he wasn’t a politician, he would be a chef. That’s not surprising, since he was accused of cooking the Treasury books when he was Gordon Brown’s boot boy.”
Bloody foreigners, coming over here taking all our twitter followers
Wouldnt that be a UKIP conference then?
Delingpole and Toby Young…you could not get two bigger pricks in a Swedish court rape case if you tried.
Not sure that they need a renewal of Conservatism, just a renewal of the leadership, or possibly a swift kick in the seat of the pants for the current leadership.
Ashcroft? I know that name, didn’t he play for Surrey?
I think he was dropped for missing too many games for tax reasons…
Is there a cricket test for non-doms?
Scruton would be worth hearing. Rest are barrow-boys and tossers.
Why?
Cameron, Clegg and Osborne are clueless.
No matter how many times you kick a dead donkey, it’s still a dead donkey.
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who has a clue?
#give.us.a.clue
strange – I don’t see my name mentioned.
can I come please?
Certainly, Gordon; will you bring the piano wire or shall we?
Yes love, straight into this turkey baster
Yes, To book tickets ring 01753 678693 or email office@windsorconservatives.com
Good luck with it but most Tories just won’t bother voting, me defo included.
Not really a rival – two weeks earlier! More supplementar!!
D’oh!! supplementarY!!!!!
doh supplemental
Too many men in suits. It looks like an auditor’s convention.
Yes, where are all the people in African national dress?
Surely that predictably-public-sector fat bird who wears the big head-scarf thing and gets invited on the BBC all the time wouldn’t have minded appearing here, to show how desperately diverse it all is?
Apart from a few exceptions they are also horrendously white and ‘British’ looking. Ugh.
Yes, and horror-of-horrors some of them are wearing red ties. Hasn’t Cameron’s modernisation taught them anything?
Cameron is just another wet Heath type. He is a Lib/Dem not a true Tory. Thats why we are not moving out of the mess.
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You just can’t trust us to honour our promises.
Why should we repay the donation from Asil Nadir,after all we are Tories and have a proud tradition of being bastards.
Better a bunch of bastards than a bunch of lying, dissembling, economically incontinent scumbags.
The idea of politicians honouring promises is quite amusing, though.
Fuck off back to your gin and tonic.
Do you REALLY want a list of donations to be paid back by LibLabCon due to donors being fingered by plod after the event? Can we start with T Dan Smith?
Ah yes, remember him.
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does anyone know why nadir came back to the UK? was it really to go to prison…his missus finds this inconceivable.
Thought James D was standing for Ukip in Corby??
Wasn’t DingDongDelingpole flirting with UKIP the other day? When is a Tory not a Tory?
‘When is a Tory not a Tory?’
When he’s in today’s Conservative party, surely.
“When is a Tory not a Tory?”
When he’s a socialist, ask Cameron.
When it’s ajar.
He was until he realised UKIP are utterly unelectable and he could be doing better things with his time.
Like not reading scientific papers.
“Like not reading scientific papers.”
Like not buying into unscientific lies you mean, surely? Or are you one of the braindead drones, who believes penguins and polar bears are doomed because your granny wants to keep warm in winter?
He doesnt read scientific papers. he says so.
Odd Idea really wanting Journalists to find things out for themselves.
If only we had a Tory government. Don’t think I will see such a thing in my lifetime as all the main parties are now Liberal Socialists.
They are not even Liberal in the classic meaning of the word. Though they are all dancing on the same pinhead regarding “progressive” corporatist socialism.
How true, all going according to The Plan.
Add to that the Illuminati and we can all celebrate. Boaz.
@Poor Bloody Taxpayer
Correct.
The Collectivist Conspiracy (Ed Griffin)
ONE LOVE
Open tennis referee, 70, ‘smashed a coffee mug across her 80-year-old husband’s head and stabbed him to death with a shattered piece’
That’s a deuce of a story.
Yes, and all the neighbours commented on the infernal racquet coming from next door.
Thought a grand slam always occurred after a drop shot and not before.
She will have to use her second service after that.
That story is a tempest in a tea cup, anyway.
ONE LOVE? Be glad to, mon! Right after this spliff…
Bring back the true Tories, last seen circa 1990.
Bastard
As a top Tory donor,I am more and more disgruntled with Dave.
The Labour fightback will begin with the Corby by election comrades.
Seen elsewhere, top right “Beeb’s Orwell Bias”, they just don’t get it do they?.
You don’t have to be certified to work at the beeb but it sure as hell helps.
An O level in English literature would help and an understanding of the word allegory.
Allegories are not allowed on the premises. They bite, you know.
Huh, see you don’t mind about your Crocoshit.
You fail to see virtue in the golden waters of its abode.
Didn’t British Leyland make Allegorys?
With at least one square wheel
Of course Tory donors are disgruntled with Dave, he’s not a Tory!
Donors are deserting because Mvrd0ch and other media outlets declared war, quite openly a few months ago, on large Tory donors.
If they donate they get named and shamed by the papers. These people are not publicity seekers, least of all do they want the scumbag press making all sorts of inuendo about them and their affairs. Pound to a penny that Tom Baldwin (ex-Mvrd0ch) is pulling the strings for team Milliband on this. No doubt promising the dirty digger that the Tony Blair (Mvrd0ch was and still is head over hells with him) years of limitless cosyness with the press and government will return. Afterall the BBC won’t say a word about it, when Labour are benefiting.
Cameron is being attacked because he sided with the Liberals and they openly despise Mvrd0ch and the influence of media barons. DC cannot or will not be Mvrdo0chs poodle and he wants revenge. Montgomery and the rest are just cynically going along with it to advance their own floating vote losing agenda. Labour will be laughing their socks off.
If the Tory Party want to get rid of their leader, it should purely be an internal party decision, not because an outside, and not even British, influence is holding a gun to their head.
Have you seen our new series of Party Politicals, produced with the cooperation of the Libs? On the BBC SOON, just to prepare the path.
I’m not sure all this donor business is beside the point. If the Tories simply promoted real conservative policies, people would vote for them. They can have a trillion quid a week pouring in, but if they show themselves as wavering, wet Liberals, they will surely be buried at the next election.
I do love all this lets move to the right when even many of those Economists who suported Osborne just 2 years ago now say that he has to change with a move to the left. The lessons of history have not been learnt and we are suffering as a result. God only knows why people want a move to the right when the professionals are saying go left.
Also from reading recent back issues of my professional accountancy/economics magazine, I sense that even the high hied yins of us bean counters are worried for not dissimilar reasons.
So the professionals say austerity isnt working, yet many in the Tory party and the UKIP want more of the same. More of what doesnt work.
Quite funny really.
So please vote in a more extremist right wing Tory leader, for that should put an end to a Tory government in this country for several elections to come!
Which “professionals” are these?
Presumably they know exactly how all the levers work in the economy. I get the impression that its far easier to work than a JCB.
I think that where our government have erred is that they looked at the money levers but failed to take proper account of the social levers.
I actually feel sorry for Dave as I do think his heart is in the right place and that he means well. But thinking that he could jolt this nation of ours (and lets face it it is a pretty conservative with a small c nation) into a new positive way of thinking within a 5 years time frame was ambitious at best.
I can only wonder, if for example, he gave proper consideration to how his policies would result in injecting fear and terror into society (as someone here confirmed with his wife yesterday), and the crime, suicides and ill health that would flow from that, not to mention riots [thank you God for a soggy summer as I was dreading a long hot one]?
You cannot focus soley on keeping the bankers/markets/funders happy while letting everyone else suffer. Its bonkers form a societal cohesion perspective, even if good from a political ideology perspective.
You cant ignore lessons from history, changing times or this nations social cohesion, for one thing that this nation has been very good at is stability. So changing everything at once to please the money folk is simply bonkers.
Its not as if he’s been jabbing the levers about very much.
Unlimited immigration and social cohesion are not very happy bedfellows – especially to small c English conservative folk.
Can you point to all those millions who are suffering? Social spending is still through the roof. Nobody in this country is doing without medical care and housing is there for those who need it. Indeed the only threat to all this free care, housing and cash is the Labour Party, who spent every penny they could get their hands on, leaving the Tories with the mess.
Ask the chap yesterday on here who said his wife was “terrified.”
Medical care can depend on whether you can afford the prescriptions/dental bills and on whether the nhs will still fund your operation.
Plenty of people live on the street (though to be fair the government have worked hard to ensure that bankruptsy doent send more to the streets)
Dont get me wrong Lucius, I dont disagree with our governments philosophy, I just think that they have done too much too quickly, and that this has caused harm.
I actually want the tories to succeed in rejuvinating this nation, but they have gone around it the wrong way. In my opinion, which is rapidly becoming the opinion of others, who are a little more delicate in how they criticise like the IMF and Economists who once backed Osborne.
It just saddens me that a nation of light like ours falls into darkness for no good reason. It would have been better if the Lib Dems had proven themsleves to be a cut above the Tories but that is a separate issue.
Lucius I just did a post that got lost in the ether somehow. Just wondering if this one will make it.
It’s a moot point about whether any course of action can repair an economy suffering from around 50% of GDP being from government spending.
Suggesting that increasing government spending is the answer is like prescribing decapitation for a migraine, yet this is all the Keynsians have to offer.
The only consolation in all this is that I’m not Irish, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian or Greek, because they are FUBAR.
I do love these sad dickheads who still view things as right/left – so boring, so last century.
well, so 19th century really.
I tend to view most “left-right” issues like a mixing studio from the 70′s with all those slide switches.
However, in the context of economics, in 2012, in britain, there’s no doubt as to what it means, and its a pretty realistic indicator as to who is who in the political spectrum. With one exception I keep on about.
I agree – it’s much easier to divide people into those who want to keep more of their own money, and those who feel entitled to other people’s and use government to get it.
Or into people who are “me me me” and those who are “lets help each other”
I can only assume that the right wing would be happy to be left to get on with it when disaster strikes? When they loose their job, can’t get another, get ill or disabled, or who loose their home etc.
“Me Me Me” yep those who grab cash from others are selfish.
Let’s help people keep safe from the envious!
“lets help each other” You pompous cvnt!
You mean “let’s help ourselves to other peoples money”
Hard working people wanting to keep their own money to keep themselves and their families afloat, are not fvcking selfish you evil socialist scumbag!!
Once again boiler plate left-wing slogans without describing the rationale behind bankrupting a nation, morally as well as economically.
Just more of the”we’re so nice andyou are so nasty” socialist claptrap that has been disproved so many times.
Christ on a bike
Do you really have to be so nasty?
There is a difference in looking after the genuinely needy and the essentially lazy & greedy. Socialists always want to spend everyone elses money.
Christ, where do I start.
First, check this out Stuart: loseloose.com. We don’t blame you; edukashun edukashun edukashun innit.
People who like to talk about ‘helping each other’ are more usually into ‘helping themselves’ once their bleeding hearts have wangled their way into a public sector sinecure.
They talk about ‘shared sacrifice’ but strangely it is others who do the sacrificing bit, while they are more in to the sharing part.
Welfare is fine for those who are genuinely disadvantaged, or for those temporarily out of work. It is not a hammock to lay in while the dwindling producer class get exploited.
Move to the left? Move to the right? You sound like Freddie fucking Mercury. What’s needed is a lengthy dose of non-expert, small-c conservative common financial sense. Professional economists got us into the shitpit in the first place. They should all be gagged and bound and dumped in the fucking cellar, sine die.
Would they be the same ‘professionals’ who said we were doomed unless we joined the Euro?
Let’s do the Time Warp again
It’s just a jump to the left
And then a step to the right
With your hands on your hips
You bring your knees in tight
But it’s the pelvic thrust
That starts to drive you insane
Let’s do the Time Warp again
The current crisis is caused by too much debt. Too much personal debt, too much corporate debt and far too much sovereign debt (or public debt as it’s usually called).
How the hell is incurring more debt going to solve the problem?
The mantra ‘we need growth’ is somewhat undermined when you consider that since 2008 (and arguably some time before that) the growth figures were supported by unsustainable borrowing. Until that borrowing is paid back, and the current level of borrowing curbed, the level of economic activity will ‘fall’ to a sustainable level.
The current ‘lack of growth’ is merely the correction to a decade-long binge on unsustainably cheap borrowing. The sooner it can work itself out of the system, the better; more borrowing now will just postpone the economic hangover.
Hence my solution for repaying all government debt in full at a stroke leaving a budget without debt repayments. Subject to keeping a keen eye on inflation, exchange rates and asset values, problem sorted overnight.
OK not quite that easy, but out of the box thinking is required.
Is this box you mention on Mars?
Lucius
Very strange things are happening to my posts tonight, lets see how this one works
Do your professional accountancy/economics magazines explain what a “high hied yin” is?
Stewart is a second year accountancy student. “Sir” hasn’t got to that part of the curriculum yet.
“The lessons of history have not been learnt and we are suffering as a result. God only knows why people want a move to the right when the professionals are saying go left.”
The lesson of history is that once 300-odd economists have put their stamp on a letter to a Conservative leadership urging a change in direction, it is better to keep going and be proved right, and let the ‘professionals’ go choke.
A collection of the unelected and those unelectable.
Tory rebels? They’ll take bugger all to scupper
Dave’ll send ‘em to bed without any supper
A seperate group might have a main course,
The chance to back a stalking horse.
Perhaps when viewing the wolf at the door,
Dear Dave will be scared to his alba core.
Since “alba” suggests from the land of the frock,
You must be one too, say it’s not so old son.
lol
It’s a veritable who’s who of dribbling right wing loons.
I agree, why these madmen and women have utterly crazy ideas, like real democracy and us running our own country! Cutting government spending!! Ending mass uncontrolled immigration!!! Cutting taxes!!!!! Deporting foreign criminals!!!!! What a bunch of dangerous loooooons!!!!!
I agree, why these madmen and women have utterly crazy ideas, like real democracy and us running our own country! Cutting government spending!! Ending mass uncontrolled immigration!!! Cutting taxes!!!!! Deporting foreign criminals!!!!! What a bunch of dangerous loooooons!!!!!
Well for most of that you need patriotic parties, so that leaves out Labour, LibDems and the Tories.
Instead we’re lumbered with three parties driven by vested interests, greed and toxic ideologies of globalism and post-democracy.
O/T – look like RBS will be the next UK bank to fall foul of US laws.
About time some US banks were fined in the UK for any number of misdemeanours.
You do know what “special” relationship means?
They think we take the short bus to school.
Comrades,I have just checked out the pricing structure for this Conference.
No discounts for the unwaged or senior citizens or students !!!
His Noble Lord will be preaching to the converted.
Now if Boris was to speak……………………………..
it’s a small photo – 6 along, 3 down… is that Nick Griffin?
Nick Griffin’s a socialist, get over it.
In trying to keep the Liberal Party in the Coalition Cameron has lost the Tory Party. He’s finished. On the morning of 8th May 2015 as he sits in CCHQ the men in grey suits will be handing him the revolver…no one is more unforgiving than the Tory party and especially a Tory party that has just thrown away power
Has the filthy perverts in the Jordanian paralympic team been told to fuck off yet by the organisers?
Cashcroft at a Taxdodgers’ Alliance shindig?
Imagine my surprise.
This week I was pictured having a jog in st James’s park. I undid this by having Dover sole and filet mignon for breakfast.
Same day as the UKIP conference. A cynic might think that Tim Montgomerie was staging a fake “grassroots” conference on the same day to try and stop disaffected Tories from coming to the UKIP conference instead.
I say fake grassroots because of course Tim Montgomerie is far from being a member of the Tory grassroots when he’s paid to work for the Tories.
Problem is old cock we didn’t cut expenditure and gave the workshy and pensioners a pay rise when real workers had pay cuts. We haven’t given any meaningful tax cuts to those who can use the money to boost production, and of course there’s the dreadful situ in the eu which we abandoned scepticism of when we confused the publics antipathy to us as a result of the eu, rather than membership of the erm which caused most aspirational southerners to be repossessed. That’s why we favour monetary intervention. Thing is we’re fuckwits and haven’t a clue about the lessons of history.
There’s no money left.
Well I never
Some of my postsanswering points simply dont appear, others appear with my name and some annonymous. Will this one work?
It did! So what has happened to those missing in space – Lucius sorry but I did answer your points
Ah now I get it my replys to questions dont seem to be working at all as I replied to my post above – sorry Lucius there must be ghosts in the system
Some are just not appearing apologies to those I am not answering
A list of wankers.