August 15th, 2012

Clegg Car Crash Grinds Coalition to a Halt

The Coalition are forever telling us how they want to get the country moving, but today the LibDems have firmly slammed on the brakes not once, but twice. This morning they conspired to lose the votes of just about anyone who owns a car by suggesting that the 30mph speed limit on residential roads be slashed to 20mph. The  baffling suggestion was dismissed by the AA as being “totally impractical and would impact on driving times and add to costs and delays“.

If that wasn’t enough, Team Clegg then picked a fight with Justine Greening by proposing a motion to oppose Boris’ Thames Estuary airport, or any new runways at any of the London airports. The LibDems have ground the government to a standstill, now they’re doing the same to the country too…


212 Comments

  1. 1
    OH says:

    DO FUCK OFF NICK!

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  2. 2
    Ash Ken the Question says:

    Can’t someone put this lot out of their misery? Like now??

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  3. 3
    Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

    So now Clegg is to be criticised for supporting coalition policy since the 20mph limit was first suggested by Anne (the man) Milton, and the opposition to any runway builds or Boris Island is led by Zac (the green slime) Goldsmith.

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    • 6
      SP4BS says:

      20% of what?

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      • 9
        2 rollocks says:

        I think it is correct that a child having been hit by a car going at 20mph has more chance of survival than if hit by one doing 30mph so I wouldn’t really be against this.

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        • 16
          Aaron D Highside says:

          If the limit was 10mph it would be even safer and bankruptcy would come even sooner. Be practical!

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        • 24
          Four-eyed English Genius says:

          But an even greater chance if hit by a car going at 5 MPH. Should that be the new limit?

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        • 25
          Really? says:

          Oh yes the old “we must think of the cheeeeldren” canard. Why stop at 20mph, why not 5mph with a man in front of the car with a large red flag. Now that’s progress.

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          • 2 rollocks says:

            on some residential, town roads which are presently a 30 limit 30 mph is too fast what with the reaction time if some muppet walks in front of you.

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          • Really? says:

            Mealy mouthed stuff now “some roads” “30 is too fast” if some muppet walks out in front of a car on a busy road, frankly the Darwin award theory kicks in.

            I know, let’s potentially criminalise every motorist to save the terminally stupid from their idiocy.

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          • Former plod says:

            Really , I take it you have never had to lift the body of a dead child killed by a speeding driver in a council estate, onto a mortuary slab. Unfortunately I have and even more unfortunately I was not in possession of your pearls of wisdom which I could have imparted to his Mother when I broke the news to her. Tit.

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          • Pogo says:

            @Former Plod…

            If the speeding chav took no notice of a 30 limit what makes you think he’ll take any notice of a 20? Reckon he’ll suddenly come over all “socially responsible” because of a new limit? Get Real!

            All the research done, admittredly not much as there aren’t many 20 limits, has indicated that not only are there more accidents in 20 zones than in 30s but that they are of greater severity. Much better to teacj kids that the roads are not playgrounds.

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          • 2 rollocks says:

            I think part of ex plods message is that it is not an intellectual exercise

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          • Former plod says:

            Pogo your reasoning is based on a number of assumptions all of which are false. Firstly its not just chavs who are involved in accidents. In the case I was involved with the driver was a female teacher, secondly she wasnt even speeding though she was estimated to be doing about 30 mph .she wasnt even driving badly, the child ran out from behind parked vehicles.

            She was driving within the legal limit though the chances are if she had been driving slightly slower then she may have been able to stop in time and even if she didnt the chances are the child may not have been fataly injured.

            Thats the crux of the matter, no one is saying any law means that there will never be people who ignore it. But many fatal accidents that currently involve law abiding people can be minimised without that much inconvienience to the motorist.

            Children do really stupid things at times, we have to factor this in when making our roads safer in built up areas.

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        • 27
          Hugh Janus says:

          We wouldn’t injure anyone if cars were banned altogether. Not really practical though, is it?

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          • National Socialist says:

            We can all travel by TRAIN!!!

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          • Complaining for complainings sake watch says:

            No thats not really practical but lowering the limit to 20 mph is and eminently sensible it is as well. Are you some kind of arsehole by any chance ?

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          • Really? says:

            Yes let’s all give the right to travel to the state, after all, the state would never abuse it’s monopoly power and trains never crash either.

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          • Vroom says:

            How many of you lot supporting this reduction have NEVER, not once, on any occasion whatsoever, in your entire life-time broken the speed limit?

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        • 71
          SouthEastVoter says:

          Drive at 40 miles and the child will walk into the road behind the car :)

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        • 87
          Carlos says:

          Get the child OUT of the road! It’s not like they pay road tax or anything.

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      • 15
        SP4BS says:

        Pah fixed. Nice hols G II ?

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    • 40
      AC1 says:

      Banning children from cities might be a better answer all round for everyone.

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      • 104
        Any Totalitarian regime you care to mention says:

        Like your thinking AC1

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      • 173
        Dave's barmy bum-sex army says:

        Ban children full stop – that’s the answer !

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        • 200
          2 rollocks says:

          It’s a reasonable “save the planet” suggestion but I fear if the indigenous adopted this policy we would be overwhelmed by breeders who do not share our considerations

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  4. 4
    SP4BS says:

    Horrible horrible Libdems. Next thing you know they’ll be opposing Boris’s cycle lanes in the sky.

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  5. 5
    tommy5d says:

    Errm… how did the “Lib Dems suggest” these things? There’s been nothing in the news, no press releases or anything similar.

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    • 8
      Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

      Dear, oh dear. You really have not grasped this blog. The truth is never more than a coincidence in the eternal hunt for the (very) few supporters of Fondling Farrago to appear even marginally relevant.

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    • 19
      Gonk says:

      Is that your class number ? Or perhaps a shilling ?

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      • 101
        National Socialist says:

        Erm a shilling is 5p.

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      • 170
        Jethro says:

        101 – Spot on, ol’ man: who would have thought anyone these days could mistake a simple groat-and-a-quarter for a Shilling. Down where I come from, we still reckon in Marks (3/6d), Testers (6d), Florins (2/0d), half-crowns (2/6d), Guineas (£1:1:0d) – if you’re lucky-, sell fish by the Cran, pigs by the Stone or Score – an’ the Chemists still measure out in Drams and Scruples; we’re all six foot tall when we’re alive, an’ six feet under when we’re dead. Tis lovely – like it should be. The only Meters we ‘ave are for the Lectric, the only -ometers are down the Gas-works.
        Don’t ‘alf stump the Trippers – so we c’n uzhlly tek a bob or two of of they!

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  6. 10
    Nonjob says:

    This is already happening.

    Here in Lancashire, the fuckwit council have decided to busy themselves changing all 30 mph zones in residential areas to 20 mph.

    The phrase ’fiddling while Rome burns’ springs to mind.

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    • 21
      Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

      There is an obvious safety justification in Lancashire. You try driving a car whilst wearing clogs.

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    • 22
      SP4BS says:

      Its a different matter really if some councils descide some areas could do with 20mph zones, rather than the government saying everywhere should have them.

      Someone somewhere in government would have to decide what they would class as “residential” and what they might class as “arterial routes”. But as above, this was floated by someone from the Conservative party too.

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      • 28
        Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

        There is absolutely no need for human intervention in such a decision. Here in Surrey it is quite simple; arterial routes are those roads on which it is only possible to get above 10 mph at 3.00 am.

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      • 29
        Really? says:

        Erm Anne Milton is a Conservative?

        I suspect she is conservative in rather the same way as Dismal Dave is portrayed as “right wing” by the unquestioning MSM hackery.

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        • 34
          SP4BS says:

          I chose the words “from the Conservative party ” carefully. I guess she did actually pay membership fees etc.

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    • 115
      useless 20mph bollocks says:

      I enjoyed driving at 19mph the other day as the police were behind me going up into my parent’s residential area, where the 20mph signs are in force. Right up my arse he was, so I slammed the brakes on. He backed off a bit after that.

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      • 197
        Expat Geordie says:

        A couple of years back I was doing 45 in a 30 limit in the presence of a police car near Bournemouth Police Station. Then again it was 6.10 on a Sunday morning and I was behind the police car (trying to keep up). I think that it must have been shift change over time.

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  7. 11
    Kevin T says:

    I’ll say this for the LibDems, unlike the other 2 major parties they do represent the opinions of their voters. The problem is their voters are complete and utter fuckwits.

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    • 17
      Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

      Which may be one or more intellectual grades above that of Labour and Tory voters and several orders of magnitude above the dribbling acolytes of Fondling Farrago.

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      • 44
        Really? says:

        Don’t kid yourself ffipps, Lib-Dim’s are right down among the plankton. Lets recap on all their successful policies, ideas and initiatives over the past, oh, let’s say, fifty years…………short list eh?

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        • 65
          Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

          I have a very easy test of intellectual incompetence. How many IT and HR managers can be found in each party. The greater the number, the lower the intellectual standards.

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          • Really? says:

            I have an an even easier test, how many successful ideas, etc, you know the rest.

            Still waiting for the definitive Lib-Dim success story policies from the last fifty years. You never know, there may have been one that was not utter shite. Any clues?

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          • Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

            My approach is more practical and unambiguous since it does not rely on opinion. No doubt all parties can point to an odd success over their history. My choices for the LDs would be abortion rights and FOI.

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          • Expat Geordie says:

            In that case The Monster Raving Looney Party with its policy to drop the voting age to 18 is probably more successful than the LD’s.

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    • 33

      Thank you for your opinion on me Kevin. Mind you I am not sure that I would vote for them again myself anytime soon, and I know others feel the same way (as bad as the rest of them I often here said – that is what happens when you offer hope and then well you know).

      I would love to get Clegg n a room and slap his face iwth a wet fish for all of the mistakes the government have made, and for destroying the faith of some Lib Dem vters. It took me 20 yeras to settle down to vote Lib Dem after the Tories forcing me as a matter of conscience to resign my membership. And now look at what they have done! I really do think that I could get more votes as an independent than as a Lib Dem candidate, and even I will admit that is a shoking think to think.

      I want Clegg & Co to inspire me, to prove to me that they are a cut above the pettiness of the British political system, but sadly they are failing me. And I want them to succeed.

      Its almost enough to urn me to labour. Farage why could you not be labour and pro EU? You are one of the best leaders we have. You inspire, you touch hearts, you are not afraid to stand up an to be counted.

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      • 42

        I really must type in word and not directly here. Apologies for my dyslexic writing.

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        • 54
          cunt-watch says:

          Fuck OFF, you boring cünt.

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        • 56
          Really? says:

          Apology accepted, now take your excrutiatingly idiotic, long winded and self obsessed bilge elsewhere, or I may not be so magnanimous next time.

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          • Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

            Hmm. Nursey is using long words.

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          • Really? says:

            Ffipps you dolt, put down your copy of Sarah Teather’s stand up comedy joke book and join the adults. Oh I forgot….. never mind, carry on drooling.

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          • Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

            If you can’t take it (like most of the Buggers Nutters and Perverts) then don’t try to mix it.

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      • 59
        Kevin T says:

        Don’t you think you have somewhat unrealistic expectations of what a party with 37 MP’s can accomplish in a coalition with a party with over 300? I’m no fan of LibDem policies but it strikes me that Clegg has got a lot of things done his voters would want and also blocked a lot of things they wouldn’t – proportionally far more than Cameron has. But you lot can’t get past the fact that he had to accept raising tuition fees, and you’ll probably vote intro oblivion by far the most successful LibDem party in living memory.

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        • 63
          Kevin T says:

          Should read 57 MP’s not 37

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          • Hey Lordy, pick a bale of cotton. says:

            Should read 57 M.P.s.
            The apostrophe is not correct in a simple plural..

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        • 73
          Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

          Sorry KT. You may be broadly correct but the tuition fee sellout was inexcusable after the position he took in the election.

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          • Agreed.

            While I do understand the reality of getting into positions you might not have expected, and all sorts of unexpected issues and considerations appearing, but an unbreakable promise is exactly that. You break it and trust evaporates.

            I just want the Lib Dems to rise above it and inspire. Perhaps Farage could give them lessons.

            With regard to expecting to much, all I expect is inspiration, showing a steady governmental hands that makes good decisions in difficult times. This isn’t visible to me. I do hope that they are doing many good unseen things, but is this mere hope?

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      • 96
        The Public says:

        Do you have a beard, and do you wear red rambling socks?

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  8. 20
    I type with my budgie says:

    He’d have us all running around in 2nd gear, yeah?

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  9. 23
    Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

    You are all missing the obvious benefit of this policy. Jeremy Clarkson will be dead of apoplexy within the first week.

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  10. 30

    The British public are lions governed by sheep.

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    • 45
      AC1 says:

      Lemmings governed by slugs.

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    • 48
      annette curton says:

      No, they are sheeples.

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    • 50
      Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

      The backbenches are loons governed by sheep.

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      • 62
        Really? says:

        You’re an cretin, governed by idiocy.

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        • 78
          Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

          I am so sorry. I assumed you were one of Fondling Farrago’s acolytes. I now realise from the smell that you are a member of the Buggers Nutters and Perverts. Oh, how I enjoyed the days of the late 70s, kicking the shit out of their predecessors just because it felt good.

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          • 2 rollocks says:

            bovver boots ?

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          • Really? says:

            Wrong again ffipps. I am certainly not idiotic enough to belong to any political party. They tend to be filled with unthinking party loyalist types, who have not a single original thought inside their rather blinkered minds. As for your self confessed glorification of physical violence, that says rather more about your mental health than anything else.

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          • Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

            Only way of protecting yourself in some parts of Birmingham in those days.

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          • Hey Lordy, pick a bale of cotton. says:

            Bloody racist!

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          • 2 rollocks says:

            when you consider what is going on in the world today bovver boys are a bit tame

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    • 71
      Sir William Waad says:

      ‘Governed’ is overstating it a tad, old Puss.

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      • 98

        Maybe in one sense, Sir William.

        But when you, or I, get done for driving at 23mph down an empty lamp-lit road at 02:30 hrs, with everyone else in bed asleep, that £200 fine and four points on the licence, causing insurance premiums to rocket, will seem a very real case of being tyrannized without good cause.

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    • 84
      Politics today says:

      Arseholes governed by thieves

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    • 92
      Tay King-dePisse says:

      “Christians fed to lions” probably more closely approximates the relationship as a practical matter, and I say this knowing full well someone will come along and mention that there is a significant non-Christian population and that I am being culturally insensitive.

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  11. 31
    Aunty Matter says:

    Why reduce it to just 20? Why not 5mph and have someone walking in front of the car with a flag?

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  12. 32
    Hamish says:

    It’s Boris’s, neo Guido.

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  13. 35
    Nero says:

    My Hero !

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  14. 37
    Patriot says:

    Clegg is Dutch. He seems to wish to make decisions which advance the interests of the Dutch aviation industry ahead of that of this country.

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  15. 38
    Moussa Koussas pet Chancre says:

    Car drivers are toffs

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  16. 48
    Sir William Waad says:

    Fortunately we have an excellent warning system for the extremely rare occasions when the police set their satnavs for the Waads (Waad Magna, Waad Parva, Upper Waad and Waad St Frideswide). They are very reluctant anyway to turn out for a mere theft of cattle, say, because they get their cars muddy and there is nowhere to buy doughnuts.

    These days, when I go into town, I feel rather as though I’m passing through Checkpoint Charlie into East Berlin.

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    • 52
      Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

      That will teach you to live just outside Manchester.

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    • 83
      Burn the witch says:

      Im sure in the absence of the Police, the good folk of Greater Waad can organise an an angry torch carrying mob if any miscreants need sorting out.

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  17. 53
    Jimmy says:

    General Election Now!

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  18. 55
    Chris Huhne says:

    Well I think it’s a cracking idea!

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  19. 60
    Cato says:

    Nick Clogg a finer example of pantish twattery you could not wish to ignore.
    What a class one pillock!

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  20. 69
    Hmmmm says:

    SKY news have been dwelling constantly on the news that the Duke of Edinburgh has been taken to hospital as a “precautionary” measure for the past hour or so together with a potted history of his life running down side of the screen Is there more to this story ?

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  21. 70

    Political slogan update:

    The yellow party:
    Regulation, regulation, regulation

    The red party:
    Desperation, desperation, desperation

    The blue party:
    Constipation, constipation, constipation

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  22. 75
    Well it's a thought says:

    Another vast amount of money, yet again to be paid out to the sign makers for the usual excuse “road safety”, hasn’t enough been done to try and outlaw cars , using road markings to single dual carriageways in the middle of nowhere, 50mph on roads you wouldn’t do 30mph on, country roads but signed up to keep them off the national speed limit, 20mph with speed humps, the list goes on, North Wales roads have been destroyed by above along with speed camera signs every few yards and the rot is starting to fill England with the same, wouldn’t suprise me someone is getting some nice backhanders for this.

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  23. 81
    Charles De Gall says:

    proof if any were needed that the weirdy beardy sandal wearing liberal has zero clue about how the country actually works and so should frak off to toytown but I doubt they could manage that either!

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  24. 106
    The Facts says:

    Yet only four days ago. The BBC ran this News Story. Who is briefing the yoghurt party with the wrong factual evidence?

    Casualties on 20mph roads up by quarter in 2011

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19226144

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  25. 109
    Anoneumouse says:

    One day, a yellow scorpion was walking along a river bank, wondering how to get to the other side.

    All of a sudden the yellow scorpion saw a toad.

    He asked the toad to take him on his back across the river.
    The toad said, “No, If I do that, you’ll sting me and I will drown.”

    The scorpion assured the toad, “If I was to sting you, we would both drown.”

    The toad thought about it and finally agreed and the yellow scorpion climbed up on the toads back. The toad began to swim… but…. halfway across the river, the yellow scorpion stung the toad.

    As the poison filled his veins, the toad turned to the scorpion and said, “Why did you do that? You know that we will both drown.”

    “I couldn’t help it,” said the yellow scorpion. “It is my nature.” I am a Liberal Democrat and that’s what us Liberal Democrats do.

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  26. 114
    A concerned person says:

    I am very worried about Elsie Beattie, or, more to the point, her significant other, Reg.
    In the last week she has referred to him as dead (as in comments about rigor mortis and decay setting in) and most recently him being very much alive.

    Surely someone out there knows this vulnerable couple. Should we call the police? If they live in a terrace with linked attics who knows what may be hidden up there?

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    • 124
      Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

      Could they have kidnapped Dame Liam Fox and be holding him in the attic. Has anyone seen this harmless, if flamboyant, failure lately? If so, please contact your local police. The rest of his party are missing his use as a distraction from their frequent cock ups.

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    • 126
      annette curton says:

      Elsie hasn’t got anything in her attic.

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      • 141
        Mrs Haversham says:

        To be honest I thought elsie was kept in the attic !

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      • 148
        Rachel Royce says:

        I like her. At least she has a sense of humour which, let’s face it, is in fairly short supply around here.

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        • 152
          annette curton says:

          Her Reg has been dead for the last 18 years but the bitch is still claiming his disability benefit, she thought this was ok because somebody told her you can’t get more disabled than that.

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          • 2 rollocks says:

            She does appear sometimes quite cold hearted but at other times lucid and caring. My diagnosis is that she is a trans gender psychopath

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    • 138
      Not at all concerned says:

      I’m sure Reg has always been referred to as, basically, deceased. However, appreciating that you have an obsession for the tiniest detail and that you probably have every comment posted on order-order in the last four years stored in a file marked “order-order comment”, you may be able to prove me wrong.

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  27. 117
    Fire up the Quattro says:

    Go to Leeds if you want to see an example of meddling by the City council. Not content with putting speed retarders on side roads and inside housing estates. ahey also thought it a good idea to place speed humps on main roads as well. My car doesn’t like it!!!!!

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  28. 120
    Top Tips #44 says:

    Whenever I am approached by anyone purporting to be a financial advisor I ask them how they made their first Million. When as invariably is the case, they say they haven’t yet achieved this I ask them to get back to me once they do.

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  29. 154
    John says:

    I fail to see why the LibDems continue to piss about with these useless vote losing initiatives.

    If you really want to lose everybody’s votes then propose the legalisation of granny beating or peadophilia or something.

    These policies are hilarious. Do the LibDems actually talk to anyone outside the LibDem party about thier policies before they air them?

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  30. 155
    chris c says:

    lib dems are running scared this is a green party policy and they expect to lose ground against them. 20mph has shown to add on less than 1 min per average journey time and reducefatalities dramatically. it is sensible but not electorallay palatable. its damage limitation against a projected advance of green party as they seek to capitalise on the alternative party vote

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    • 159
      Pogo says:

      This would be wonderful, if it were true… However, like most (all) green policies it is based upon wishful thinking rather than fact. Accidents have increased in 20mph zones, as have their severity.

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    • 160
      Pogo says:

      PS, most “greens” appear to be scientifically, engineering and economically illiterate. “Heart in the right place” but heads up their arses.

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      • 161
        2 rollocks says:

        [bites] so how come people managed to live long enough to breed prior to the invention of the blast furnace?
        I don’t know how old you are to when I was a child the fields and rivers were full of living things which gave me great wonderment.

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  31. 165
    Capt. Mainwaring says:

    That boy Clegg is an absolute wally.

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  32. 166
    fitzfitz says:

    Send the little bugger back to play with AV … what a pwick .

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  33. 167
    fitzfitz says:

    Navel gazing : a speed limit controversy when you need to create jobs and raise productivity over there ? Get on with it or you will have the left in government again for a generation.
    Clegg the pwick.

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  34. 178
    Kent Conservative says:

    Boo to Boris island.

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  35. 180
    Bias BBC Editor says:

    http://biased-bbc.com/2012/08/15/awkward-very-awkward/

    The BBC’s take on falling unemployment.

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  36. 196
    getmeouttahere says:

    We have this to come in Bristol, though actually, trying to drive anywhere at 20mph would probably be an improvement. The thing is, it’s all very well to say ‘on some roads’, in Bristol it will be all residential roads at all times, regardless of whether there are any children about or not. I think in Bristol the council is trying to stop people going out at all. They have wrecked any idea of traffic movement with ridiculous and un-used bus and cycle lanes, the buses are so useless that no-one in their right mind would want to use them if you have to be anywhere at a given time, they finish early and the fares are astronomically expensive. The buses are run by First, of course, whch bodes ill for the West coast trains. Businesses lose trade and the only people who can park at work for free are council staff. Coming to you all, courtesy of LibDems.

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  37. 211
    Anonymous says:

    When he was transport secretary Philip Hammond proposed something similar to the 20mph limits in urban areas, but in return for 80 mph on the motorways. I think that there was some EU harmonisation behind this.

    http://www.channel4.com/news/motorway-speed-limit-set-to-be-raised-to-80mph

    The Lib Dems are trying to (cack handidly) claim “credit” for a done deal that wasn’t decided in London any way.

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  38. 212
    nigelforengland says:

    Tax fizzy drinks to combat childhood obesity, say Lib Dems

    Bring back competitive sport in schools, says anyone with an ounce of common sense

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