August 13th, 2012

Guardian Slapped Down Over Oxbridge Hypocrisy

Saturday’s Guardian ran a scathing attack piece criticising Oxford and Cambridge universities as representative of everything that is wrong with society. Although apparently Oxbridge “doesn’t matter“, Lucy Mangan reckons it is still “a tangible symbol of the subtle, pernicious, destructive system we live with and, by and large, accept“. Scroll down and online readers can lay their eyes upon perhaps the best comment in the history of the paper:

Take a bow, Emma…

H/T @hightower_uk

43 Comments

  1. 1
    • 15
      Stobrith says:

      Is Lucy Mangan at that stage in life that ladies seem to have to go through, or is she on something stronger than tea???

      She certainly needs to see an optician at least.

  2. 2
    Attila the Huhne says:

    Emma Chisset*

    *How much is it?

    Private Eye would be proud.

  3. 3
    Nig L says:

    Wonderful made up name

    • 39
      Max Emillion says:

      The story was told by the wonderful Kenneth Williams who encountered a lady at a booksigning. She asked “how much is it?” and, mishearing, he dedicated one of his books “to Emma Chisit, all the best, Kenneth Williams…….”

      (I’m in training for the bbc’s annual pedant of the year competition)

  4. 4
    Aristander of Telmissus says:

    And the risible bint went to Cambridge herself!

  5. 5
    Andrew Efiong says:

    Aha, totally exposed as hypocrits!

  6. 6
    Grotblik says:

    Was Polly Toynbee too thick to get into Oxbridge? Can’t see her name

    • 8
      Peter Grimes says:

      YES!!!!

    • 10
      Good Golly Miss Polly says:

      She got in, but didn’t complete her studies there. She read History for a year-and- a-half (Toynbee– history– what are the odds?). It was mostly as a “legacy” that she was even there in the first place, as her scholastic achievements to that point were meagre indeed.

    • 11
      CLUELESS DAVE and his CAST IRON MEDAL says:

      Jackie Ashley ? St Anne’s College, Oxford

      Polly Toynbee ? St Anne’s College, Oxford

      Heather McRobie ? Keble College, Oxford

    • 13
      The Real World says:

      Yes but she is there as St Annes. Maybe she has connections.

    • 33
      Whippersnapper2 says:

      Our Pol. is too thick to get into a pair of trousers….but I think she’s trying.

  7. 7
    Tomorrow's Chip Wrapper says:

    Essentially ALL socialists throughout the centuries have been and are hypocrites…

    • 29
      To Be Fair says:

      To be fair, the Socialism which they advocate is for the rest of us but not them. Once you understand that subtle point it makes things much clearer.

  8. 9
    CLUELESS DAVE and his CAST IRON MEDAL says:

    She cannot take credit for the list , as she cut and pasted it from elsewhere

  9. 12
    Anonymous says:

    Which bit of Mangan’s article attacks Oxbridge? It seems to be going out of its way to avoid doing so.

    • 38
      Anonymous says:

      Shhh. You’ve actually read the article. Just throw loud disparaging comments around like everyone else here does.

  10. 14
    Corvinus says:

    Let’s also not forget that other “tangible symbol of the subtle, pernicious, destructive system we live with” – Polly Toynbee. Too thick to pass the 11 plus or gain more than a solitary A level, she still “won” a scholarship to Oxford. Of course she couldn’t hack it a dropped out after 18 months. Being a total failure was evidently no impediment to being employed by the Observer, BBC and Guardian.

  11. 16
    Ike O'Nomicks says:

    Another bored Grauniad hack posting on it’s own website.

  12. 18

    How long will that comment stay up there?

  13. 19
    Steve Lloyd. says:

    Don’t worry i have a copy. This was good as well.

    Q.
    just wondering what the question marks are meant to symbolise in your list? Are these guesses?

    A (Emma)

    I don’t know- I didn’t compile the list, just copied it. I’d guess that it doesn’t indicate a guess but has, for some reason been used as puncuation, a hyphen would have been better perhaps.

    (I wouldn’t know for sure, not having gone to Oxbridge). : )

    Also addresses the faint plagiarism reference above.

    • 36
      Steve P says:

      Probably a software conflict where some punctuation like a dash was turned into question marks.

  14. 22
    Oberon Houston says:

    Lucy Mangan went to Cambridge…

    http://www.whocomments.org/wiki/Lucy_Mangan

    • 37
      Yeah, right... says:

      Goodness, all those brilliant minds wasted churning out dogmatic drivel to be read only by a a few others just like them.

      Clearly a university education isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be.

  15. 26
    Anonymous says:

    Did not know that about Laurie Penny (also in the comments on the Guardian site). As Jarvis Cocker put it, “everybody hates a tourist”

    • 28

      ..
      She studied sculpture at Saint Martin’s College,
      that’s where I caught her eye.
      She told me that her Dad was loaded
      I said in that case I’ll have a rum and coke-cola.
      She said fine and in thirty seconds time she said,

      I want to live like common people
      I want to do whatever common people do,
      I want to sleep with common people
      I want to sleep with common people,
      like you…

  16. 31
    keredybretsa says:

    I’ll drink to that!

  17. 32
    Mr. Putin's Stolen Cat says:

  18. 35
    Whippersnapper2 says:

    Serves you alright for buying the appalling rag. Delete it from your FREE browser it’s wonderfully cathartic. I did abt. 6 months ago and still feel really ‘up.’

  19. 40
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    Lucky to get away with it – every time I post the Oxbridge/private school lists on Comment is Free I am disappeared.

    • 41
      Cato Street Conspirator says:

      Here’s part of it:

      Editor Alan Rusbridger (Cranleigh); political editor Patrick Wintour (Westminster); leader writer Madeleine Bunting (Queen Mary’s, Yorkshire); policy editor Jonathan Freedland (University College School); columnist Polly Toynbee (Badminton); executive editor Ian Katz (University College School); security affairs editor Richard Norton Taylor (King’s School, Canterbury); arts editor-in-chief Clare Margetson (Marlborough College); literary editor Clare Armitstead (Bedales); public services editor David Brindle (Bablake); city editor Julia Finch (King’s High, Warwick).; environment editor John Vidal (St Bees); fashion editor Jess Cartner-Morley (City of london School for Girls); G3 editor Janine Gibson (Walthamstow Hall); northern editor Martin Wainwright (Shreswbury); and industrial editor David Gow (St Peter’s, York).

  20. 43
    Osama the Nazarene says:

    In that mini-me Socialist People’s Republic of Poland the socialistic party members introduced a points system for university entrance. As well as baccalaureate marks, points were given for background.

    Party appartchicks who had benefited from their background points now found that their offspring were no longer regarded as being of prole or peasant background and could not benefit from the extra points. Their remedy was to buy a small piece of land (peasants could own land, something which the party was unable to close down) somewhere in the country and claim that their offspring were of peasant background.


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