Tory Police Commissioner Candidate Refuses to Join Party
The Conservative Party Police and Crime Commissioner candidate for Cambridgeshire has a secret: he is not a member of the Conservative Party. John Pye is running on a Tory ticket despite the fact that he is not a member of the party, and is crucially is still refusing to join. That’s despite him describing himself as a Conservative with a capital ‘C’ in a letter he sent to voters:
Sources in Cambridge have confirmed that Pye effectively admitted to not being a member when he was required to declare his interests two weeks ago, and despite the best efforts of local Conservatives he is determined not to carry the party card. Guido was aware that the Tories were having problems with their membership numbers, but running a fake candidate is something else…
The party is a mess, a joke, bit like clegg and Cameron
What would Slutty Sally know about talent?
Only that her hubby pulls some when he’s away overnight.
I agree Sally but only if you permanently leave the UK with short arse in tow.
They can stay on one condition. You put them up in your gaff.
Is gaff some euphemism? Coz they would fit
Can’t she just go and hide,permanently.
Yippeeeeeee!!!
Oh, you said ‘gaff’, I thought you said ‘chuff’.
So used to sponging off the rest of us she recommends it world wide
We have left for Europe but some of us are still in the UK.
Dear Sally can we hide with you? We will do our best to satisfy your dreams.
Man is a prat-they should deselect him and start again.
In what way is he “fake”? He says he has conservative values but needs to remain apolitical. Sounds more principled than the dregs you support, Geedo!
There is nothing conservative about The Conservatives, they’re BluLabour.
Parties are the main enemies of democracy. Vote Independent or don’t vote at all!
Whatever lies behind the man’s refusal to join the local Party his view of the role of PCCs seems spot on to me. Liblabcon has every intention of packing these appointments with party yes-men who will be useless and another waste of taxpayers’ money.
Little known factoid but unlike Labour it specifically ain’t stipulated that you have to be a Tory to run as a Tory, only if you win. I rewrote our local gov Conservative constitution and it’s pretty chill on shit like that. This is just bargaining or bad blood with his agent, sponser etc. All campaigning will get pulled until the finger is pulled out – not knowing the situation, the lad may have a legitimate beef and may just need a change of manager. With Labour however you have to sign up even to be nominated and everything has to be written down which naturally breeds nepotism and cliques. This lad must be a good lad or he wouldn’t be pulling this stunt so it just sounds like someone’s being a bit of a twat.
Just because he has a bobbies helmet does not make him plod either
Call this a Party…..I call it a liberty!
I call it a car crash.
Listen chaps, I said this was OK because as you know I am not a Tory either.
I think he meant to put Conservative with a small “c” in his mail-out.
I don’t personally see the harm… let the parties endorse who’s best for the job, not who’s best in the party.
Whot F*ck endorsed Eric Pickles then
No it was definitely C**t with a big C
Is this a joke?
What sane person would want to be a member of the present Tory party. That does not preclude them from being a real Conservative!
Quite. Real Conservatives are leaving the Tories and joining UKIP.
Who stole all the Pyes?
Eric, silly
I didn’t steal them, I eat them.
Dear me. Using the brand label when you shouldn’t.
If it was Coca Cola or MacDonalds, they’d have him.
Conservative a brand??? LOL that’s like calling Chlamydia body art.
+1
My curiosity is telling me to search for that on Google Images to see what you meant, but for once I’m able to resist..
Love it!
Wouldn’t have happened in my day…
You can still be a conservative and not a member of the damn party, at least he looks to be honest which i more than a lot of elected people generally
As long as he’s good for households and businesses I’ll endorse him.
Seems like he may have principles – they should be pleased.
I seem to remember a certain unusually effective trade minister in the last terrible government that would not join the Labour Party.
is he a neighbour of Jeffrey ‘Lord’ Archer?
doesn’t Jeffrey have a membership problem too?
“….but running a fake candidate is something else”
But is running a fake Prime Minister OK then ?
I’m having a great time here in the Royal Box at the Velodrome with Prime Minister,David Cameron.
So far, I’ve laid 22 golden eggs for the country.
You are a dirty dog, dear. I’ll fetch the marigolds.
Well as an ex party member who sent his resignation to Maggie Thatcher (and got a reply) after the tv news reported that the YCs had rioted at their annual conference destroying the place, I still remember the tv report and talking to the YCs on their proud return to university, (heaven forbid if any of those rioters are cabinet ministers today), perhaps I could get myself elected as Prime Minister. I mean at least I used to be a party member.
Your criticism is misplaced here Guido. Good for him! I don’t want my police commssioner to be a party politician, the post should be non-political. In fact, I’m disappointed (but not surprised) that the Tories and Labour are putting forward party candidates at all.
Spot on!
There are many dubious issues surrounding the whole of these so called Police Commissioners and these November elections.
The John Pye issue of him being a ‘fake’ – is not the only one. There is also a dispute as to whether or not a man called Derek Potts [In Private Eye currently] is a UKip candidate or not … P Eye ‘may’ have to ‘retract’ their story in a coming issue.
These Police Commissioner elections are themselves fake – they are totally and utterly politically driven, influenced and backed and of course it is all foisted upon the public behind the veneer of it being on some kind of an ‘Independent’ status. The criteria about the elections on the Home Office website – and further research makes it clear that many mistakes have been made about the credibility and lawfulness of theses elections. There is no ‘mechanism’ within the system [And there ought to be] whereby anyone can legally object to certain candidates running in the election; nor is it clear where the qualifying criteria has come from. e.g. Anyone who has served prison time is excluded. Who decided that – save an inner clique of politicals?
In 20 years we’ll wonder how it was possible NOT to have elected police chiefs. This is here to stay and will prove to be – on balance and with a few caveats – a really good development.
The fact that he says he’s Conservative with a capital C is totally consistent with refusing to join Blue Liebour. Good man.
Typical Tory.
Pretending to be ‘non-political’ while puking out typical tory bullshit. And assuming that it will fool everyone, while being blissfully unaware of how obvious it is to everyone who isn’t a Tory moron.
I can well imagine this scenario. I’d describe myself as a natural conservative and indeed Conservative but I dropped my membership under Cameron’s leadership. He isn’t a Conservative.
John Pye has never made any secret of the fact that he didn’t want to join the party. It was clear when he put his name forwards as a possible candidate. It was clear in the first selection meeting which cut the candidates from six to three. It was clear at the hustings, when he was grilled about it by Conservative members and stood by his convictions. And it was clear when Conservatives in the area voted on the three candidates and selected him by a clear majority.
John Pye has something in common with a lot of people. He considers himself Conservative, he votes Conservative, he likes many Conservative policy positions – but he is not a member of the party. He believes that he can tell everybody what he believes without joining the party because he thinks that this will preserve his independence from party political influence if he is elected.
He has been clear about this and, like others, I was unsure about it at the start. But there is something about his clear conviction, openness and honesty that has won me over. I rather think his old-fashioned, honest style will resonate with other people too. There is something very genuine about him.
Let’s face it, John Pye is not the only person who is conservative but has not joined the party. There’s a lot of it about. If CCHQ are not worried about it (and they aren’t) then why should we be? If nothing else – his refusal to be bullied is refreshing. Isn’t it?
His claim to be independent would be more valid if he chose to stand as an independent!
What he is not telling every one is that though he has admitted he does not want to join the Tory party,(who would) if he gets elected he has already pleadged to do as CCHQ advises and has pledged to employ party advisors on what he calls a ‘small advosory board’.
Jobs for the boys already – This election sickens me and it has not even started yet.
I am voting UKIP – at least they are honest about who they are and what they are doing.
Is it true that unhappy Conaservative Back bench County Councillors are planning to field an official-unofficial , non tory- tory against him (one who is actually a tory member and councillor but not recognised by CCHQ) unlike this chap who is advised by cchq will employ cchq staff and is official but isnt a Tory member ?????
Car crash politics
>>Is it true that unhappy Conaservative Back bench County Councillors are planning to field an official-unofficial , non tory- tory against him<<
No, its utter bo***cks.
Did you just completely make it up, "Anonymous". You did, right?
I am told that the sitting Tory Cllr and member will stand as an Independent whilst this non member will stand using the party logo.