Polly Inflates Cuts by 5100%
Guardian Forced to Retract Toynbee Yarn
Polly Toynbee was on particularly dramatic form yesterday as she attacked council tax benefit reforms in the Guardian. However those revisiting her scaremongering online today might notice one glaring correction:
“This article was amended on 24 July 2012. The original said households in Haringey would lose £38 per week. That has been corrected to £38 per year”
There is a very big difference between people losing £1,976 a year, as Polly tried to spin, and losing £38 per year, as is actually happening. The percentage increase between the two numbers is 5100%*. Aside from reckless scaremongering and horrendous Guardian subbing, Toynbee’s article dismisses that these reforms will save the taxpayer £480m a year. So it is official - Polly is 5100% wrong.
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Time to put the poor old Biddy out to grass…
out to grass? Time for her to be shot, more like
Ive got it! Plan B – a cones hotline!
Oops! Of course I meant to say Plan B is invade Syria/Iran, cause Russia/China to intervene, so start a global thermonuclear war, wiping out 6 billion little people. Silly me!
This stupid cow is truely mental.
How anyone can listen to her claptrap is beyond belief. She is a national laughingstock
Simples
The Left uses ‘The poor’ to provide themselves with jobs, power, money, influence and an excuse to attack their enemies – Conservatives who want people to be left alone to get on their lives without Socialist interferance.
Polly – typical wealthy champaign socialist – needs the poor – they don’t need her.
Its all too much for her.
She needs another holiday.
Silly old baggage.
we all disconnect but it is incompetence when you are on the job.
Another comment in most outstandingly bad taste – well done!
A recent Biased-BBC comment, undoubtedly from one of ZaNuLieBor’s all-too-many trolls, suggested that those who attack the fat-arsed, ugly, hypocritical, useless cow PollyTwaddle never read her articles.
FFS!!!!!
Anybody who uses the expression ‘ZaNuLieBor’ has already lost all credibility.
No – leave her there – always good for a laugh
Polly is a true Champagne Sociopath
She really does think that people outside of her Trustafarian Islington Leftie Pseudo Academic Bleeding Hearts Microcosm actually listen to her drivel.
Gordon Brown has more credibility than Tuscan Toynbee.
Only the Guardian appear unaware of her real value to humanity
Whenever is she right? Her grip on reality would improve massively if it ever reached ‘tenuous at best’.
The woman is a delusional fruitcake.
And to think that Cameron was courting her and her acolytes before the election.
Now we have had Blairite economics non stop for 15 years, it is clear that it is not working. The economy contracting -0.7% Q2? Let’s GET RID OF CAMERON AND OSBORNE and try a conservative economics for a change? Does anyone remember free market economics? Competition? lots of small independent businesses competing for their customers by offering better products and services at better prices with better service?
The last 15 years of corrupt corporatism has failed. Our economy is falling off a cliff and it is NOT for the reasons Polly thinks.
It is Cameron and Osborne’s adherence to 99% of Alistair Darling’s economic plan, instead of a distinctly conservative one.
I’d do a better job, but its best I keep my head down, rather than rock the boat too much.
GDP fall explained in full.
Blame it on the lack of sunshine
Blame it on people moonlighting
Blame it on the end of the good times
Blame it on the boogie eater
Haha! Very good.
His dog loves him?
“More important than being loved is to love”?????
I’ve already complained to Mr Lama as this is just not the case.
Last Friday evening in our village local, during a late lock-in, I tried to love our busty new Latvian barmaid, she told me that she didn’t love me and I said it doesn’t matter as Mr Lama said it was “better to love than be loved”.
Hopefully after my letter to the landlord, my ban will be lifted before the ‘Vicars and Tarts’ night on Friday.
Its globalisation Sir Trev.
in the old days the promise of some potato soup and a pair of leggings would have got you to third base.
Our European partners are more worldly now.
A crank shaft for a 1998 Massey Fergusson Olantio and tickets to Legoland may be required.
AND a big dose of HB and benefits for life!
How True Bill, even on our MP junkets to Azerbaijan to offer advice on the Eurovision song contest, I noticed some of their scantily clad backing vocalists were only interested in hard cash. I went back still carrying the nylons and chewing gum!
Furthermore, those on the left are far more intelligent that everyone else.
So there.
..than… obvs
(pre-empting the pedantic onslaught)
Labour’s supporters are usually thick unqualified poverty-stricken underachievers with sad pathetic lives and non-jobs. Intelligent, successful, people tend to support other parties.
Indeed, a quick look around Labour “heartlands” reveals conclusively they are all unremitting shitholes, full of seething failures and dole bludgers looking for constant hand outs.
Anyone with the slightest intelligence got out as soon as they could and never go back.
Those on the left are kind, altruistic, morally and ethically upstanding, and generally all-round nicer and better people than those money-worshipping Tories.
The fact that my newspaper does not pay UK tax does not in any way signify that I or my colleagues are hypocrites of the first order for writing articles criticising the Government’s evil tax regime.
It’s time the deluded old cow retired and pissed off to Tuscany, never to return.
Fuck me, this silly bitch gets paid about ten times more than the average hardworking person” for producing this garbage? Which idiot decides she’s worth all that money? It seems only the Guardian and its broadcasting arm, the BBC, think she’s employable.
Just what life experience has she obtained to make her think she can tell the rest of us how to live. A homeless tramp probably has more wisdom than Dopey Toynbee.
BURN THE WITCH!
Polly put the kettle. Don’t make a mess of that!
She ignores that fact the her and her fellow lefties largely exist on hate.
Who are they hating today?
The bankers (of course)
The Tories (naturally)
The Coalition
Bullingdon Boys and ‘toffs’
Middle England
Daily Mail readers
Patriots
Americans
Christians
My goodness. With all the hating they do they would surely win a few gold medals at it.
+ anyone who questions the BBC’s bias
Mc Donalds
The EVIL MURDOCH EMPIRE
Coke (Coca Cola, that is)
Fatcher
Private Education and Free Schools (as opposed to Stayte Edukashun)
Anyone who makes a profit
Strivers
Anyone who succeeds
Success is elitist.
I hate subtitles. They’re wacist. Next time I see them I will call the police or I’ll wet the bed.
What is a ‘gold medal unloving hater’? She really can’t write English very clearly. Perhaps too much time spent in her luxury second home villa in Tuscany.
‘unloving’. 1984 double-speak?
can anyone translate this?
Yes, because a great many people point out all these inconvenient facts about the flaws in the graun / bbc LALa land project and, in fact, deeply resent the damage done to our country by the said perpetrators, we are all gold medal haters.
The newly created Media Guido loves him
Polly: Guido loves what you fear… the truth!
But Polly you make it so easy and so rewarding
Play fair! We all known she’s away with the pixies and has been for years.
She’s the novelty act not a journalist; therefore normal rules [competence, fact checking, etc,etc] do not apply.
The figure should be £3.80 per week or more depending on certain variables.
polly for shadow chancellor
I think Polly has a crush on Guido.
So much tension between them
The only time I want to hear the words “crush” and “Polly Toynbee” is when they are combined with “Fatal car accident”
What a horrible comment!
Suggest you read the comments about how they yearn for Mrs Thatchers demise on CiF – then you’ll know what horrible comments look like.
+1000
Making an off-hand comment about Polly and a car crash = horrible.
Telling lies to the whole world in order to start an illegal war that killed more than 100,000 men, women and children = totally OK.
I agree, lets all drink some peace tea and be friends
How about a cup of shut the fuck up?
+1!!!!!
It might not necessarily be an accident.
SiLly cow
Almost as funny as 0% growth from Cyclops!
Her grasp of matters economic is on a par with little Owen Jones.
Owen will be on Radio 5 Labour, Today, The World at One, Any Questions, Question Time, The Daily Politics, Newsnight, The Sunday Politics, BBC News 24, BBC 3 and any other BBC programme which the BBC News Editors can shoehorn him onto to give his expert economic analysis of the situation.
Or even the world infamous “negative growth”:
The revised ONS figures of November 2009 showed that the UK had suffered six consecutive quarters of negative growth.
“Negative growth” – now there’s an oxymoron!
I am a genius – I sold the gold at $280/oz and invested in Euros.
Now I am a global statesman who has a job at the UN. I am respected by all as an expert.
just go & Fcuk off then for good…….that way we will all be better off !!
It’s rather nice in Tuscany at the moment!
It would be a lot nicer in England if you were to piss off permanently.
Listen we’ve got enough problems in Tuscany to last us a lifetime without inflecting
Ga Ga Polly on us for any longer
Get it
Or shall I make you an offer you cannot refuse…?
Leave her head on the bed- poor horses have enough to contend with.
Polly is 5100% barking.
well its easy then ..if 38 pounds from everyone will save the council 480 million – lets see now – that means to save a trillion – DIVIDE 1 trillion by 480 million = 2083 ( google answer ) 38 x 2083 = 79154 and that means ( different things to different people – ) One possibility is that the local borough council identify a tax haven with the same number of people as their Borough and – well, get the government to ask these people to give the money – cancel a trillion and start all over again ..simple MATH – YOU ARE BRILLIANT ( the people who ‘give’ the money can open a TAX-free shop in the borough ) its a stroke of GENIUS
You are Mitt Romney and I claim my $5
If nobody spent anything that’d save a bit?
It’s not hilarious it’s fucking delusional. He needs to be sectioned (into many little pieces).
Well just don’t vote for him next time.
Oh, hang on…….
V. good point. Like we voted for the Eurotroughers Kinnock and Mandelson as well.
And where is cast iron Dave?
Why did he not veto this outrage?
This increase has just cost the British taxpayer an extra £356 million per year in subs to the federalist lunatics in the EU.
No accounts signed off for over a decade, a fiscal mess of epic scoialist incompetent proportions & yet Dave cowers behind a sofa as the unelected Barroso, Van Rompuy & the hideous anti democrat Baroness Ashton steal yet more of our money to squander?
Modern Conservative MPs are rubbish – utterly useless for anything other than filling in their expenses.
Mere lobby fodder for a quizzling naive inexperienced Europhile who is out at the next GE.
Dave is out today preparing for life after government with his bestist mates in the jolly EU
Is she hiding out in Italy or at the BBC?
Both places…….she’s a Leftie…..
Sqwark! I’ve shat all over the cage.
£51- about the average price Polly pays for a bottle of Barollo
It’s very rare, hence the price. Barolo on the other hand …….
Polly prefers to drink Barroso
Drink Barroso’s what?
“Toynbee’s article fails to mention that these reforms will save the taxpayer £480m a year. ”
Toynbee’s article: “All this is to save just £500m.”
When mocking an article for making a mistake, it’s probably a good idea to avoid making a mistake yourself.
Somebody may be rounding…
Just £500 million?
A billion here, a half a billion there, pretty soon you’re talking serious money.
Money grows on trees.
Pity she can’t be made to disclose her tax arrangements before she takes it upon herself to pontificate about cuts which need to be made because there isn’t any money.
Ahh, the ole Bolshevik principle, never let the facts get in the way of the agit-prop, the proles must be mustered, mastered and made malleable to the will of the leadership.
Oh you are mean! Polly had to take her orthopaedic stockings off so she could count that high & now you’ve gone and spoiled it.
Now you’ve summoned the unwanted image of Polly taking her stockings off, you unutterable swine.
*Don’t look below if that disturbed you – really – don’t do it*
Too late dammit!
Bleeeeeaaaaaaaaaghhhhhhhh! Wipes Mouth and reaches for mind bleach.
Inequality is no joke. Millionaires who get paid a fortune for contributing nothing of any value get to spend the summer basking in their luxury villas in Tuscany, while hardworking poor people who can’t afford holidays worry about paying the rent.
Or for all that expensive green “renewable” energy Polly and the progressives are so keen on.
The thousands of poor people who die in winter, because they can’t afford to heat their homes, are a price worth paying for the greater good, presumably.
I am self-employed can only afford a 4 day holiday in Summer in the UK. Twats like Tuscan Toynbee and her fellow ‘non add value’ twunts like MPs and Westminster commentators take it for granted that they can freeload. I hate the Hunts!
The gals always quoting tractor statisics. Does she pay her Gardener, cleaner, cook and pool boy cash in the Tuscan sun?
Daft cow.
She must have been riding that Sybian too much recently.
Mindbleach!
I did post a warning above
Too late.
What a terrible thought.
Maybe the thought of her nude 100m hurdling will erase the image.
Aaaaaggghhhh!
Have you thought of consulting a psychologist?
Don’t know about you but the thought just comes to me and it is out on the keyboard before I can stop it. (Ewww. I could have phrased that better too….)
What… a monkey?
Now that really is in the most appalling taste…
Is that cash in hand?
Could be worse, could be a pony.
Immoral. Grossly immoral. David Gawky.
Readers unfamiliar with the Sybian might like to glance at a does-what-it-says-on-the-tin site called Fucking Machines, where there is the odd artistic video.
NSFW.
We enjoy an 85% penetration into the mаrket place here, sir.
Can you tell the difference between butter and margarine?
Can you just imagine that wrinkled, hairy, pussy with dangling labia, clenched around the business upright of the Sybian as it bucks her into oblivion?
It wouldn’t touch the sides!!! Pelvic floor muscles are undoubtedly fucked.
oh look, its chuka and hazel blears
My arse speaks more sense and is more articulate than that punchdrunk old cat lady.
Isn’t it time she just jogged off out of our faces and maybe write a tour guide for her palace and grounds in Tuscany, she may actually be able to get that one slightly more accurate.
Btw Guido, please don’t print any more pics of her, it scares my kids, she looks like an old leather handbag with eyes.
Only not as useful as the old leather handbag.
Truth is of no concern to me. I have made a very lucrative career out of talking shite and I will continue to do so.
and she gets paid £130k a year by the guardian to write that slop.
Yer man I get that myself for my many Wives & Hordes of Children on your lovely UK Benefits here
its still a struggle each week……..
And she pays tax at?
Occupational hazard, you know; us Lefties really aren’t good with Maths when it comes to money.
That statement should be qualified by saying that you’re pretty sharp with your own money. It’s only other people’s money that you waste.
All that maths is great, but you’re saying there that a year is 51 more weeks than a week.
So the conclusion is the coalition is not doing enough to limit benefits. Benefits paid out of taxes by those earning less than the benefit itself.
Polly put the kettle on – that’s all your good for.
Guido, do you mean to tell us that a left wing commentator has a poor grasp of financial matters? Well I never!
Er, if the most anyone was losing was £38 a year, and the government saving was £480 quid, there’d have to be 125 million people all paying the full amount. This is pretty shoddy journalism from Guido – and unlike the Guardian, he won’t issue a correction!
£500m in the Guardian article.
Don’t cry.
I calculated that to be a zero percent increase. I’ve always found numbers confusing.
Serwotka backs down. What a shit is this £100,000 a year union leader. Serwotka is a liar.
Serwotka: ‘What swung it was the Government’s agreement, in a meeting last night, to recruit 800 extra border force staff.’
But the jobs had been already advertised last week.
Serwotka Livingstone’d out knowing that he did not have a mandate for the strike with only 1800 of 16000 voting to go out. Add the substantial number of non-union staff in the IS and Serwotka could see the writing on the wall.
“Boy boards plane to Italy at Manchester Airport without passport”
It’s not Osborne, is it?
Sorry Mr Forks (No Knives but only in East London for next Month or so) I have to correct your mis information you’ve put into the pubic domain regarding our sister or brother or awaiting the genda change NHS operation, on this well not researched load of effluent ……..during my tenure as the GREATEST Chancellor the Universe has been allowed to worship from 1997 to 2010. I personally devised & wrote this form of Brownite Nuttyonics Accounting scam where you take original figure then re- announce this over & over again…in this case just just a small number of fifty two times only …..so you get at the correct figure that Polly so very intelligently, even if I say so myself, discovered what this Nasty Party are really up to……I look forward to seeing your ejaculation very shortly…….
“spending” = “investment”
“borrowed shed loads of money that will incur crippling interest payments” = “grew the economy”
Any fool government can “grow” the economy by borrowing and spending. But the chickens have to come home to roost at some stage. In this case trhe chickens have come home to roost on the next government.
You mean the flocks of diarrhoea infected chickens have & are starting to
come home to roost.
Just look at all of the shit they continue to rain down each & every day on
Call Me a Dick Head Liar Dave & the rest of his genda benders…..
I am just brilliant in the way I have made UK economy the basket case of
Northern Europe the same as south…. I look forward to my crowning……
Crowning with a rolling pin is the best idea you’ve had this year.
Labour also grew the debt by trying to buy that election.
The figures are staggering.
In July 2007, Britain had government debt at 35.5% of GDP. This figure rose to 56.8% of GDP by July 2009. 2010 the British national debt amounted to £940.1 billion, or 61.4% of total GDP.
so long, and thanks for all the debt.
Clarke’s the sort of brainiac who’d pop to the local garage and borrow a petrol pump if he thought his Sunday afternoon bar-b-que flames were getting a bit weak.
Someone needs to give this bunch a good shake to see if it fires up the half of their brain that isn’t working.
It’s called Scorched earth policy.
Polly is a genius, she gets good money to write total bollocks that would be worthy of a lobotomized chimp, and keeps the whole circus going by writing the complete opposite of what she wrote before, ad infinitum.
I say old chap, I must protest at your use of such derogatory terms……in all of my years working with chimps I have found them to be very intelligent social animals.
They are certainly far more evolved than the so called Hacks that are restrained by the Guardian but then the so called average left wing sub normal dick head that try’s to read the crap that is ejected each day from them they are well suited to one & other……
try’s ??? Ar u a grundina poofreeda
The old bat also makes a fool of herself with this:
Each council must choose who is “vulnerable”, as the government refuses to provide its own definition…. People who live in areas with a lot of pensioners or a lot of the “vulnerable” will suffer the biggest cuts, as much as 30% or more.
Is this the same Polly who applies the adjective “vulnerable” to anyone who isn’t a super-fit karate black belt?
The term ‘black belt’ is racist. Also, the notion that one person could be better than another person at Karate is elitist.
Ok then is the term Opposite to a White Belt acceptable ???
Or do we need a judge lead enquirey team to delve into this matter
Yes indeedy. I’m loving the way she puts “vulnerable” in mocking quote marks, as if it’s a bad word, yet she flings it about with abandon in almost every article she writes.
After much soul searching, I made the difficult decision to send my child to an expensive private school. It was a tortuous dilemma. I had to choose between sending my kid to an expensive private school 5 miles away, and an expensive private school 8 miles away. But I won’t apologise for putting my child first. Frankly, the private school 8 miles away was just too far, but the one 5 miles away is perfect. Just as Diane Abbott said she was a mother first and a politician second, I am a hypocrite first, and a hypocrite second.
This government wants a Final Solution for everything and everyone.
Enjoy the summer. I’m off to Tuscany.
I am tottally and utterly disgusted at the treatment of Polly on this blog. She is a Progressive and doesn’t have to be able to do maths- that’s for the Little people like you, that have to produce something tradeable so we can seize most of it in tax, to fund us to boss you about.
It’s the wonderful “postdemocratic era” for which Common Purpose is training its Droids. Check out the olymic Zil lanes and “party members only” hotels in London. The IOC politicians have go the idea. Do try and keep up.
Fcuk Off, back to your sheep shagging luvers…….
Poor old Polly, writing for a newspaper running out of money.
According to the times the guardian loses £125,000 per day. thats £44m per year. Whilst ita has a cash pile of £225.8m Becsue of a £100m div from autotrader. It spent £80m on new presses and now £12m on its headquarters per year. Also several million on 50 employees on New York. It EMAP stake now written down to zero (not worth anything). It has TRader media valued at £1.5billion with £500m of debt as half owned with APAX, of floated it should get £500m.
so i recking the guardian will be bankrupt within 15 years, unless it has a paywall but most guardian readers will not pay for it, so its revenue from this would be limited and its claimed 30 million readers online would fall dramatically affecting advertising.
long term the guardian is buggered to put it mildly.
someone just call out my favorite word…..buggered….can’t get enough myself, any more still going spare
Chaps and chapesses.
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During the Mayoral Election, Toynbee wrote a story lambasting Boris (and in support of Tax Dodger Livingstone), including the ludicrous claim that in the previous six months there were only 56 affordable house completions in the whole of London. Checking the official numbers it was clear that Polly had done an Owen Jones / Joanne Hari and had made it up (i.e. lied) – the official figures showed that there were more than 3520 Housing Assn / public sector completions with more in the private sector (and with over 6200 new starts under-way in the same period).
To use GF’s formula, Poly was out by at least 6186%
I did drop Poly a line to ask where she got her figures from (that nice Leveson person reminding me about journalistic standards, integrity of the press and all that – I didn’t want her to be dragged in front of Judge!). I never did get a response.
I wonder what Rebekah Brooks is doing right now?
Packing her Suitcase for a very long, soon to be announced, visit to……
Anyhow, you can’t blame the subbies, Guido, the Guardian has probably sacked them all so that it can continue to pay Rustybridges and PollyTwat their vast, unmerited salaries!
The Chancellor would like it to be known to everyone the following
I am using Gordon’s abracuss !! abra!! cadabra !!……oh Balls…..
I am buggered buggered……..will someone anyone just please bugger me…
Polly Toynbee 5100% wrong? Must have been one of her better days.
Kindly read my earlier posting @12.19 under the same pseudonym about the Nasty Party’s misinformation & Lies they keep spreading…..
Her arse inflates about 20,000%
Did Owen Jones do the maths.
No thats not for Gays & Bum bandits…..
The woman is beyond belief, mentally unbalanced, who the hell actually believes anything she ever says. – More lefties I suppose, poor dears. -
I don’t know where you studied mathematics but the average Band D council tax in England is £1,444 per year and a 20% reduction in benefits is £288.80.
This equals £5.55 per week that people will have to find out of their other benefits.
So your figure of only £38 per year is as inaccurate as Polly’s
The grauniad strikes again. Idiots.
What a curiously brazen old broad this is : we wonder why you tolerate her .
Given there are 52 weeks in a year, then any escalation from a weekly to yearly figure is going to be 5,100% as it’s 52x as much. I mean, you just multiplied the number by 52 anyway, when it should have been 52.142 (or, as it’s a leap year, 52.285). But then you show us the working out, where you’ve mentioned the figure of £1,976. (Missing the extra fiver in a normal year, tenner in a leap year.) So why do you need to show the maths to prove that an exaggeration of weeks to years is 5,100%? (When actually it’s 5,114% or 5,129%) Would you also feel the need to get out your calculator in a day/week case to tell us that it was a 600% exaggeration? Dear God, is this the state of education in our country?
I think you should start referring to her by her proper title: the multi-millionaire Polly Toynbee.
Typical Grauniad columnist – never let the facts get in the way of a good headline