July 17th, 2012

TUC in a Spin Over Threatened Pilgrims

Carl Roper is sanctioned by the TUC to spin for Pilgrims – taxpayer-funded trade union officials. The unions are fully aware of the damage that losing this state subsidy would do to their coffers and their ability to buy influence, so are fighting the Cabinet Office consultation launched last week very hard. So hard that they are just making things up:

Either Carl is an idiot, or he is being deliberately misleading. The Cabinet Office £36m figure is only for taxpayer funded union activity in Whitehall, whereas the TPA figure he mentions is in regard to union activity funded by the state right across the country. Channel Four’s FactCheck – so quickly turned to by the TUC when it agrees with them – believe the TPA figure to be an underestimate. It’s based on FOI data released by councils. Many refused. Carl ran away when Guido picked him up on his dodgy spinning.

No doubt he will happily set the record straight when he sees the error of his ways…


  1. 1
    Andy Burnham says:

    Never go back son

  2. 2
    The General Public says:

    Brainless, unpleasant, lying bigmouth. Quintessential trade unionist.

  3. 3
    Selohesra says:

    Fingers crossed but somehow I expect this is all talk by govt which will change nothing

  4. 4
    slow down guido says:

    Coming thick and fast this morning.

    You’re posting quite frequently as well.

  5. 5
    Legal Crook says:

    So when is the Gov to go after the BBC tax fiddlers.

  6. 6
    Lance Dyer says:

    It’s a bit rich that the City and Bankers can spend some £90 million to Tory coffers on lobbying to their advantage but Unions, in the main working for good industrial relations, are considered the ‘bad guys’.
    We also see lobbyists of all kinds working on the Government to get what they want, eg food manufacturers against proper labelling, and these are not above board and as transparent as ‘paid time’ for union matters.

  7. 7
    Nullbymouth says:


  8. 8
    The Piss Soaked Tramp Formally Known As TAT! says:

    “It sounds to me like an excessively efficacious decision. You won’t get that during the Olympics. If they’d have called me, my answer would have been for them to jam in the name of the Lord!” – Boris

    From Bloc. to this bullshit, fucking hell Olympics is going to be a shambles.

  9. 9
    Fed up taxpayer says:

    It used to be called lying!

  10. 10
    Nullbymouth says:

    Are you stupid? Please explain how my taxes fund lobbying, and then explain how some union rep who I have no intention of ever joining provides VFM for me?

  11. 11
    Kevin T says:

    Union members pay dues. These dues should pay for work done by the unions. Why the fuck should the taxpayer cover it? Why do I care if Unison members in the Department of Education are happy? Piss off.

  12. 12
    The Colonel says:

    Get rid of the lot of them end of story!

  13. 13
    Anonymous says:

    £36million is still a lot of money so it’s hardly a defence anyway!

  14. 14
    BOB coCROWch says:

    Oi ! Ooo are u torkin abaht ??

  15. 15
    Grassy Knolls says:

    Two words: Jessica Ennis, hard-on.

  16. 16
    harryg says:

    you mean paxo being paid into a company ‘paxo’ enterprises or some such?

  17. 17
    UNITE behind Labour says:

    Talking about “Union Dues”….at the moment union members have to “opt out” of Labour Party political levy not “opt in”..if legislation was passed making it a requirement that members had to “opt in” it would cut Labour funding almost overnight QED

  18. 18
    Mary Quaint says:

    Loving the eye-liner, darling.

  19. 19
    Youse avin a laff int ya ? says:

    “Dave” thinks that the BBC is a “Great British Institution”…Does that answer your question ?

  20. 20
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    How difficult can it be to just turn oiff the funding today?

    Right now.

    Labour stuffed the civil service & all the public sector with these parasites.

    Cull the lot.


  21. 21
    Andrew Efiong says:

    No wonder these public sector union shirkers are wasting money, they can’t even read and count properly!

    Carl Roper is on the run now, exposed to the nation as incompetent!

    Anyone caught moonlighting on another job should be fired. No consultations needed.

  22. 22
    I don't need no doctor says:

    GS4 won Olympic security contract about 5 years ago.
    John Reid, labour’s ex Home Secretary, becomes a director of GS4 on 18th December 2008.
    A picture is emerging of even more labour shit!

  23. 23
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    Yeah, but what’s thirty-six mill between friends, anyway?

  24. 24
    Mervyn King says:

    QE, tens of billions of £s in direct bailouts, ZIRP, all from/to the detriment of the taxpayer/savers, funds bankers’ lobbying, you prick.

  25. 25
    Nullbymouth says:

    Its not difficult at all, but it will not happen. When have you ever seen a politician do something fast (other than their expenses claim)? This will all be implemented around 2015 like everything else.

  26. 26

    That’s 4 words. Another victim of Labour’s education policies.

  27. 27

    You are either impossibly naive or irredeemably corrupted. Or both.

  28. 28

    These Pilgrims are lazy, good for nothing, waste of taxpayer’s money.

    Right..I’m off to do good in the third world. Big conference in Dubai about something or other.

    Back in 7 weeks.
    PS – Someone look after my houses while you’re paying for my holidays will you?
    And down the road, Margo Beckett’s borders need a good trim and her hanging baskets could do with a good splashing.

  29. 29
    Some Geezer wot knows a million corny jokes says:

    “But who wants to live next to an institution?”

  30. 30
    Becky Pippins says:

    I sooo sleepy now. Na night.

  31. 31
    Nullbymouth says:

    This prick would like you to post a link showing that QE goes directly to lobbyists. Thanks

    The question was ‘Please explain how my taxes fund lobbying’ so please also explain how QE and my taxes are the same thing. Thanks

    Oh and dont forget the last question ‘explain how some union rep who I have no intention of ever joining provides VFM for me” . Thanks

  32. 32
    Loungelizard says:

    Yes, perhaps Mz Cooper, the sour face of Labour, might like to haul him before parliament to answer a few questions.

  33. 33
    Raving Loon says:

    Doesn’t matter even if it is “only” £36m, not even one penny of tax payers money should go to unions.

  34. 34
    Madame JoJo of Soho says:

    Hi Andy, just confirming we have booked you in to the 10-11pm performance slot on Wednesday night. Ciao babe xxx

  35. 35
    Gordoom McMental says:

    “I have never heard of G4S. I have no recollection of anyone called Dr Reid.
    I know no one called John. I have no idea who or what a home secretary is.
    All right, teddy?”

    {switches to squeaky voice}

    “yes. thank you your Eminence for attending these hearings. Who do YOU think was to blame for the security cock up at the Olympics.”

    “Good question Mr Bear! I expect it was Thatcher. Or Murdoch. Or Tony Blair.
    Best arrest them all for trial.”

  36. 36
    albacore says:

    You’re doubting Dave, the mover and shaker?
    How could you imply he’s just a faker?
    Why, he’s spending like you’ve never seen yet
    To wipe out that goofy old Gordon’s debt

  37. 37
    Hang 'em High - REALLY HIGH !! (own piano wire supplied) says:

    Hang the fucckkaass ! Plenty of cranes round city centres – if not – bring ‘em in.

  38. 38
    Diane Fatbutt says:

    The unions are wasting resources that I pay for. If you want a union, you pay for it.

    “food manufacturers against proper labelling”
    Try using your fucking eyes. Do you need everything to have the HSE seal of approval? Upon reflection, you probably do.

  39. 39
    Merv (the Swerve out of difficult decisions) says:

    My Pensions are safe, – safe I tell you ! – And indexed!!

  40. 40
    Raving Loon says:

    Implemented in 2105 more like.

  41. 41
    Nullbymouth says:

    Probably a Gaia worshipping, beard touting, corduroy jacket with suede patches wearing freegan

  42. 42
    Wise says:

  43. 43
    UNTIE - the yoonyun for the Conned Man says:

    You kno it makes sense

  44. 44
    Nullbymouth says:

    Ah the real Merve. Yes we know how QE affects annuities, but we are awaiting an answer on how much of our tax pays directly for lobbyists.

    Which even if proven does not make the case for union fifth columnists to be paid for by taxpayers.

  45. 45
    Mike Hunt says:

    Yet again we have some leftie wanker who does not / cannot / will not understand the difference between the public sector and the private sector.

  46. 46
    DiddyBot says:

    An der ain’t no way I is gonna hav dem ass implant! – dat botty am me best feecha!

  47. 47
    The Libor party says:

    We never courted the City and Bankers. We never had the so-called Prawn Cocktail Offensive and we never knighted Fred the Shred.

  48. 48
    Revd. Phoney (£rd Fucking Way) B£iar, sanctimonious git and £iar, emoting and wiv stupid grin says:

    Hi !! … case in point – I fort I got us into the Dessy War pdq – all fings considered!

  49. 49
    DZ says:

    he won’t correct it because he has BULLSHIT in his DNA

  50. 50
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    Pruning her bush would be revolting

  51. 51
    Mad, Bad & Dangerous Gordon McRuin ( Member in absentia ) says:

    I never appointed Mervyn King to Governor of the bank of England. Was it Sue ?

  52. 52
    The Labour Cliterati - 50 Shites Of Red says:

    We understand the difference between the private and public sector.

    The private sector – fat cats, Mill owners, Bankers bonuses, Corporate greed

    The public sector – workers rights, gender diversification, green policies, invent stupid fucking pointless terms like contemplation suite meeting room, pensions for the workers

    blah fucking blah

  53. 53
    Contradiction in terms? says:

    Dave ‘thinks’ ???? – see me after Class that boy!!

  54. 54
    Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    Then repealed in 2016 when the Lab/loon coalition get in power; because saggy Dave wouldn’t do the right thing.

  55. 55
    David Cameron (Leader of the Nasty Party) says:

    This is a cause for celebration.

    Today I shall wear my rubber suit, completer with studs and chains,whilst sucking a gob-stopper!

    God Save The Queen .

  56. 56
    Hatful Hateful Hatty - £ieBore gift that keeps on giving! says:

    Now Gordon! You don’t need justify yourself! – you’re a sweaty darling! And we love you!!

  57. 57
    Andy Burnham says:

    Don’t make me cry I am just about to do a piece to camera and you will make my mascara run

  58. 58
    Gordon Brown says:

    Err, my two jobbies are esentional.

  59. 59
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    I had never heard of G4S either.

    I’m sure they’re doing a much better job than that other security firm that got all the grief a few years ago for letting prisoners go free.

  60. 60
    Greychatter says:

    The taxpayers money given to the Unions should be refunded, back-dated to the start of this parliament.

    Over two years of funding could be nearly the amount of cash support the Unions have given to Labour Party in the same period.

    If this abuse is not stopped dead, the same amount will have been leached (nicked) from the Taxpayer by the next election. A couple of hundred million?

  61. 61
    Mrs. Ball-Scooper ( triple flipper ) says:

    Morning, Ed.

  62. 62
    UKIP.i.am says:

    New topics are like buses on here. You wait ages for one to come along then several turn up at once.

  63. 63
  64. 64
    AC1 says:

    Dave Thinks is an Oxymoron.
    Dave Cameron is a moron.

  65. 65
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    hahhahahaaahhaaa haa


  66. 66
    Mad, Bad & Dangerous Gordon McRuin ( Member in absentia ) says:

    I have never heard of Lord Adair Turner. I think it was Sue who set up the Tripartite ‘regulatory’ system. I have no idea who elevated Turner to the House of Lords.

  67. 67
    Gordon McBust Brown says:

    Good to see you’ve all forgotten about the modernisation fund I set up to divert public money to unions which support Labour. And the covert funding of and perpetuation of left-wing ideas in the establishment with public sector adverts placed in the Guardian.

  68. 68
    AC1 says:

    and it shows that NHS checks on vision are a failure.

  69. 69
    Harridan Hatemen says:

    And they have forgotten about my Equality Act which means that any future government is legally forced to follow policies I put in place. Democracy is so sexist.

  70. 70
    AC1 says:

    A picture that will never be seen thanks to the way the bbc is funded slants their coverage.

  71. 71
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    Where the fuck is this country going ?
    zero growth
    zero employment prospects
    zero interest rates
    mass unemployment
    mass immigration
    rising population
    45% taxation
    highest fuel prices in the world (or near enough)
    public services on the brink of bankruptcy (no more money to invest)
    deficit rising
    borrowing rising
    tax take plummeting
    giving away yet more money in foreign aid
    politicians who seem unable to govern
    pay rises for those lucky enough to still have a job being kept to a minimum
    cost of living rising
    do these dumb fuckers in parliament still think they can solve all these problems by hiking up the tax on the already over taxed workforce ?
    This has all got to stop somewhere !

  72. 72
    Kevin T says:

    Yup, and most online union sign-up pages don’t tell you.

  73. 73
    UKIP.i.am says:

    Nice find, Idontneedadoctor

    “John Reid, Director, G4S Regional Management (UK & Ireland) Limited
    John Reid, or Lord Reid of Cardowan, as he prefers to be known, joined G4S in 2009, having previously been Tony Blair’s Home Secretary and Secretaries of State for Health and Defence. The £50,000 a year it is giving the New Labour hard man quickly paid off for G4S as it landed a multi-million pound, four-year contract to supply private security guards for around 200 Ministry of Defence and military sites across the UK just three months after it took him on. Since then he has been diligent in ensuring the hi-tech security used by his employers is a feature of parliamentary debates whenever possible.”

  74. 74
    UKIP.i.am says:

    End of this year according to the Mayans.

  75. 75
    Scrape scrape scrape... says:

    Listen carefully and you will hear the sound of pitchforks being sharpened…. There is only so much people can take and that point is now very close.

    Maybe the Incas got the date right – 12 December 2012 wasn’t it? Not long now. Keep sharpening the blades.

  76. 76
    Ticktockticktock says:

    oops, must have used the wrong name,


    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    July 17, 2012 at 11:48 am

    Listen carefully and you will hear the sound of pitchforks being sharpened…. There is only so much people can take and that point is now very close.

    Maybe the Incas got the date right – 12 December 2012 wasn’t it? Not long now. Keep sharpening the blades.

  77. 77
    Ticktockticktock says:

    We seem to have had the same thought! Mine was delayed by you know what..

  78. 78
    Croydon Phil says:


    paxo stuffing LLP monaco

    ( I put ‘im onto it didn’t I . Well…. Tina thinks he’s .. er … you know …. hot (?!)

  79. 79
    BDSM says:

    but does he also like oxes ??

  80. 80
    Frankie Goes To Seed says:

    RELAX !! Can’t do it ( any more ).

  81. 81
    Sci says:

    Most people simply don’t believe “official figures” for anything anyway, by default.

    For example the risks from smoking are way smaller than hyped, climate change can be anything, immigration numbers fail to mention emigration and brits living abroad (10% of brits don’t live here!)

  82. 82
    keredybretsa says:

    See the error of his ways? No way, he’s blind in that eye.

  83. 83
    Peter Grimes says:

    Carl isn’t an idiot, this is just how the lying trade unionists push their propaganda to their stupid members, members who, unfortunately, have the right to vote despite their evident mental incapacity!

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