July 3rd, 2012

Pilgrim Progress


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  1. 1
    Fred says:

    Good start, but just make the unions pay not the public NOW!

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    • 2
      Gooey Blob says:

      They can easily afford it! Just take a look at what the unions are paying their fat cat leaders.

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        Gordon Brown says:

        As an expert on Unions, I can categorically state that Pilgrims receive NO taxpayer’s money – except legitimate – and paltry – expenses.

        You have my word – as a Son of the Manse – on that!

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      • 23
        You, some rope and a lamp post says:

        And there was me thinking you had wet dreams about and showed blind support for the well heeled. Such treachery!

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    • 20
      You, some rope and a lamp post says:

      And while we’re at it, let’s consult about the public funding the royals too.

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      • 32
        concrete pump says:

        Only joyless fucktards would bemoan keeping our royal family as titular heads of state.

        69p per person, per year…

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        • 35
          Gordon Brown says:

          , i did not dump in the shower

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        • 37
          Anonymous says:

          Is that all each royal person gets to live on per year? Shurely shome mishtake?
          £378,249 travel costs by Airmiles Andy paid from taxpayers money.
          Blimey! He must have been saving up for 548,186 years.

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          • concrete pump says:

            If Andrew were to fall out of a helicopter i doubt he would be missed, either by the public or the royal family.

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          • jgm2 says:

            The helicopter would have increased fuel economy though.

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          • Lord Wayne of Royal Adviser says:

            honestly I feel sorry for Andy
            he had to put up with that oxycontin popping, bloated fuck bag Sarah Ferguson

            I d travel a long way to get away from that

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        • 51
          You, some rope and a lamp post says:

          So 43,125,000 pounds a year then.

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          • You, some rope and a lamp post says:

            How many Trades Union officials would that employ? :p

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          • You, some rope and a lamp post says:

            Going by the (rather optimistic) national average wage of £32,000, we could employ the grand total of 1,347 Union officials with what the royal family get.

            As an interesting aside, we could afford 308 Bob Crows. But he isn’t paid for out of the public purse, much to the libertarian right’s dismay.

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          • jgm2 says:

            If we somehow ‘saved’ 43 million quid it would be counter productive to hire one union official let alone a thousand of the c*unts.

            Someone, somewhere must surely have calculated the negative costs of every single union official. I’m prepared to bet that Bob Crow and his 100K plus salary generates much more than minus 43 million quid on the overall GDP calculation. Every time he calls a strike and Londoners lose a days work there must be hundreds of millions of pounds worth of losses.

            Bob Crow is a big fat national NEGATIVE.

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          • You, some rope and a lamp post says:

            Union officials do sterling work in helping to protect working class people (you know, those that actually do the work?) against greedy middle class individualist dicksplats such as jgm2.

            If you succeed in this disgusting little onslaught (as part of an already ongoing stream of attacks against working people) expect London to get to work a little more slowly than usual. You know the drill you Tory Tosspot.

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          • South of the M4 says:

            Never read jgm2 attacking the working class – just the hypocrisy and incompetence of politicians and the consequences of their decisions.

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          • jgm2 says:

            Aye. Go ahead. Back to the 1970’s.

            Arthur Scargill is right behind you. Him and his one million unemployed.

            Bob Crow has gone to the well once too often. Just like Scargill. Just like ‘Red Robbo’. Just like the print workers.

            Looking after the ‘working class’? Ha-fucking-ha. Demanding protection money with menaces like fucking gangsters is all he’s doing.

            Tube dr*iv*er? ‘Skilled job?’. Red light STOP. Green light GO?

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          • The Paragnostic says:

            “Union officials do sterling work…”

            Thanks for that – I needed a laugh.

            In my experience, union officials do fuck all apart from encourage their members to take the piss, knowing that the union will provide a smarmy employment lawyer to extort a severance package once the employer has had enough of the lazy twats.

            Unions had their place in the 20s and 30s – now the tables are tilted so far in the employees’ favour that unions are an unnecessary burden on employment.

            But hey – do carry on with your class-ridden, envious and bitter view of the world – it keeps us entertained.

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          • @ You, some rope and a lamp post

            You loser.

            I have emigrated.

            You will, no doubt be happy about that.

            I am even happier that I don’t have to inhabit the same land as you.

            Just to remind you – you complete and abject loser.

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          • jgm2 says:

            @ The Paragnostic

            If by ‘entertained’ you mean ‘inconvenienced by monopolistic workforces holding you over a barrel’ then I’ve not been so entertained since the miner’s strike.

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          • Anonymous says:

            You are correct neither jgm2 nor The Paragnostic attack anyone according to their class be it working or otherwise. Nope they attack people on the basis of their race ie English good, Scottish horribly bad. Its a bit like the difference between Commies and Nazis.

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          • The Paragnostic says:

            Now, now, anonymous – you should know that I only do it to wind up the chippy Jock twats.

            Awa’ wi’ ye to yer Bucky and park bench ;-)

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          • jgm2 says:

            The Scots aren’t ‘bad’. They’re just easily bought. With borrowed (or somebody else’s) money.

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        • 53

          Completely agree cp.

          Ignorant ones too. They will expect to retire and live off the state at 65 (if not before).

          HM is 86 and will carry on working until she drops.

          The benefit to the country in tourism, trade and prestige is immeasurable.

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          • You, some rope and a lamp post says:

            Happen as maybe, do you think you can provide some empirical evidence for this immeasurable figure?

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          • nellnewman says:

            Quite. Just imagine if we had the bliars waving at us from Buck House Balcony. Shudder!!

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          • cunt by name, cunt by nature says:

            “You, some rope and a lamp post says:
            July 3, 2012 at 8:48 pm
            Happen as maybe, do you think you can provide some empirical evidence for this immeasurable figure?”

            Can’t be done – it’s immeasurable.

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          • @You, some rope and a lamp post

            Only if you provide criteria for measurement of prestige.

            Then only if I agree with your criteria – which I doubt I will.

            So until then, have sex and travel.

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          • Fictional figures says:

            … and wtf do you get this 32,000 from? Average wage is probably 10,000 less than that.

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        • 182

          If that’s all it costs, I would be happy to pay a full and frisky pound coin each year to have The Simpsons as an alternative Royal Family.

          If that seems ridiculous, because they’re fictional, I’d settle for an alternative currency, with Marge’s head on one side and Blinky the fish on the other…

          I wonder if there’s a top ten of institutions we pay for this way? The NHS would be way up at, or near the top, I guess. Would the BBC count, because we pay a ‘license fee’ to watch ALL (live) TV, not just the Beeb? Should we lump our MPs’ constituency expenses’ in with the rest of parliamentary costs?

          This looks like a job for ‘More Or Less’…

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      • 168
        Me, some rope and a lamp post says:

        Well you are a bundle of joy. They are worth every penny and certainly worth a lot more than you and your miserable, po-faced comrades who have been screwing this country since 1945. If you want to save some money go and see how much Baroness Ashton – another useless socialist parasite – costs the taxpayer.

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        The Angel of Dearth says:

        “You will: Assist in general think tank administrative duties.”

        Rough translation: “You will make the coffee and leave it on the big desk in the meeting room”

        or how about..

        “You will .. spend a day each week working on events and communications.”

        Rough translation: “You will order vegetable samosas on Fridays, and let everyone know (via email: IT skills “essential”) when they’ve been delivered.”

        I bet it’s well-páid, though. *cough*.

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    • 171
      Over the border says:

      Who’s Arry Coal?

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  2. 3
    Now Retired says:

    Hello is that Dulux?

    Delivery for ten ton of whitewash please

    Just send it to the House Of Commons with the bill

    Yours sincerely

    Ed Miliband

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  3. 4
    JO MOORE (political grave digger) says:

    What you need tomorrow Dave is a good Muzzie bomb blast !

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    • 14
      Fake Blood says:

      No way! Time Labour’s financial policies were exposed. We already know how they ballsed up the nation with multiculturalism thank you.

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    • 42
      Laughing hangman says:

      Don’t give McDoom ideas for a day to bury bad news

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  4. 5
    Ken LyingScum (taxpayer - NOT!) says:

    I can’t see any harm in Union activism on Tax Payer’s expense – and I should know!

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  5. 6
    Anonymous says:

    This should be tagged “Totty Watch” Guido Fawkes.

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  6. 8
    Bob the gob says:

    I’m going on strike if they stop paying my lackeys …. actually, that should read my union brothers will be forced to go on strike…….. not by me you understand… entirely because of their natural instinct to defend the indefensible….. that should read in support of their basic rights……nothing to do with bonuses or jobs for the boys and girls you understand.

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  7. 9
    JO MOORE (political grave digger) says:

    Environmental noise officers called to Westminster this evening ,
    as the whurring of shredders is interfering with the neighbour’s TV sets

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  8. 10
    keredybretsa says:

    Oh! To be a Pilgrim. Hopefully it will be grim for them!

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  9. 11
    What progress? says:

    The unions should pay for their idiots. Not the taxpayer. The unions have a cool 25 million to spend on their morons.

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    • 13
      Taxpayer says:

      They got the money from the taxpaey over many years. It is not theirs. I want my money back.

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      • 78
        You, some rope and a lamp post says:

        Me too. From Land stolen by the aristocracy. Share the wealth.

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        • 83
          jgm2 says:

          Did the ‘aristocracy’ steal your land? Really?

          They didn’t steal mine.

          I bought mine. Only cost a couple of thousand quid an acre. You can still buy agricultural land for five thousand quid an acre. An acre will comfortably support a family which is why allotments are so much smaller. Enough to feed you but not enough to start selling food. The ‘enlightened’ City fathers didn’t mind you feeding your family but didn’t want to be subsidising your farming business. Forested land is even cheaper.

          You want some land? Buy it.

          Or I suppose you could just steal it and demand that the kulaks produce free food for you. And then wonder why you have a famine.

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      • 118
        AC1 says:

        In these economically problematic times we need a Windfall Tax on Union balances!

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  10. 12
    A. Pilgrim says:

    I’ll fear not what men say,
    I’ll labor night and day
    To be A Pilgrim.

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    • 180
      Mike Oxenfire says:

      I’ll fear not what men say,
      I’ll *Liebour* night and day
      To be A Pilgrim.

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  11. 15
    JO MOORE (political grave digger) says:

    Bob Diamond , He’s a real Barclays Banker

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  12. 16
    Hoon of the Hoonery Trade Union Activist says:

    The union of midgets must have their own representative who is under three foot and 3 inches. It is their human rights.

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    • 21
      Ah! Monika says:

      That reminds me, about time we had Vicky Price on Newsnight gain to give us her slant on the criminality of the Bankers.

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  13. 17
    nellnewman says:

    Poor old labour – all their sins coming out of the woodwork now and beginning to drown them from all sides.

    What next I wonder.

    Is gordon on his way from his kirkcaldy playroom ready to testify under oath that he knew nothing about the lowering of the Libor Rate.

    Having watched him struggle with his moral compass and lack of understanding of the truth at leveson – suspect this ordeal might be even harder for him. Or maybe he’s now taken some coaching from bliar the liar on how to lie convincingly in public.

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    • 22
      BBC Newsroom lefties says:

      We will not be reporting this. Instead on Newsnight we have a speech from David Cameron when he was 9 stating that he liked bankers.

      We will tear him apart tonight, we love Gordon we love Ed.

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        nellnewman says:

        The beeb doesn’t know it but it’s slowly sinking into it’s leftie biased partisan swamp. !0 years from now doubt it will exist!

        That’s what happens to dinosaurs ask David Dimbleby.

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        • 183
          Haribo Halfwit says:

          Wrong David. Attenborough’s your man – and he’s making 3D-based stuff for Sky nowadays.

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    • 181
      JH says:

      Gordon understands what the truth is just fine – it’s whatever just came out his mouth.

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  14. 18
    JO MOORE (political grave digger) says:

    Fuck all to do with politics
    just a really good TV advert !

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  15. 19
    CERN Physicist says:

    Tomorrow we will be making a major announcement that will confound the world.

    It is official: Gordon Brown is a total fucking twat, has no brain, no personality and is thicker than a rotting carrot.

    Oh and he did NOT save the world.

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    • 24
      CERN Physicist's Mate says:

      Yes, Ed Miliband has found the Higg’s on a bandwaggon

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    • 32
      Anthony Charles Lynton Blair says:

      I found the Higgs years ago.

      How do you think I make all that money gravitate in my direction?

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    • 66
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Higgs – as has been mentioned.

      Do not mention – The “DEREK HIGGS REPORT” produced during the reign of terror and that it was The UK’s most highly esteemed masters of the Universe, movers, shakers [Handy] and leggers in the city who ‘created it’ to bluff and dupe the public about CORPORATE GOVERNANCE. (It was their little secret as they were all in it togeithner)

      Do mention / speak of / nor tell your mates down the pub that – it was the UK’s Corporate Governance ‘fairytale’ of deceptions that allowed the ‘greedy fat cats’ in cahoots with the political elite to continue raking it in at the expense of the British Public.

      And do not mention that not one judge or lawyer ever questioned the legality of Higgs’ Corporate Governance. (They were in on the scam as well)

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  16. 25
    Owain Glyndwr says:

    Ed Milliband is a pilgrim

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    Aunty Matter says:

    Very interesting that the BBC report into the Barclay’s memo shows the comment about the ‘senior Whitehall source’ (Read Labour politician) but the BBC make no mention of it in their report.

    Why not BBC?

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      nellnewman says:

      I suspect the beeb maybe another great labour money troughing scandal just waiting to happen.

      As well as promising an in/out EU referendum at next election, cameron should promise in his manifesto to abolish to beeb and sell it off to highest bidder in parts.

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      • 38
        jgm2 says:

        cameron should promise in his manifesto to abolish to beeb and sell it off to highest bidder in parts.

        He should do no such fucking thing. He should close it down tonight. Send everybody their legally entitled severance pay – be it four weeks, three months or twelve months. Make ‘em all redundant and shut it down.

        Then bulldoze the buildings.

        Just like Dr Beeching and the railways.

        Lest it rise again.

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        • 40
          Well it's a thought says:

          We don’t own the BBC, the EU does, we only pay taxes to keep it’s personnel in the manner they have become accustomed to.

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        • 43
          Another Engineer says:

          I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit.
          It’s the only way to be sure.

          http://nukeitfromorbit.com/

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          • Another Engineer says:

            That was supposed to have very geeky meme brackets round it but wordpress ate them.

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          • The Paragnostic says:

            Maybe we could get Guido to run Slashcode instead of WordPress?

            The chance to mod all of Jimmy’s posts into oblivion would make it worthwhile…

            Was <this> the sort of tag you wanted? &lt; and &gt; are what you need ;-)

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          • We press dates too says:

            BURP !

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        • 45
          nellnewman says:

          That’s OK jgm but I think the taxpayers should get as much money back as possible so surely selling it off perhaps to a foreign investor would be better.

          I feel sure Russia would be happy to bid for it and it’s marxist news programme that always eliminates anything to do with truth.

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          • The Paragnostic says:

            Russia has its own news outlet – Russia TV. It’s on Freeview, and has a couple of decent economics shows – “Capital Account” is well worth watching, as it eschews Keynsianism in all its forms.

            I don’t think they’d bother with the Bolsheviks and Buggers. Maybe the Syrians might like to buy it instead?

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    • 86
      Fish says:

      ITV mentioned the apparent pressure from Whitehall and amazingly so did C4 News. BBC the odd one out

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  18. 27
    The Libor Party says:

    Shaddup.

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  19. 27
    The Citizenry of Plymouth, Massachusetts, Early 17th C. says:

    Now perhaps we shall yet have our good name back.

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  20. 36
    Saffron says:

    Anyone enlighten me as to what this union modernisation fund is all about,who funds it and how the money is used?.

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    • 39
      Tachybaptus says:

      It’s a method of channelling taxpayer’s money to the Labour party. The government gives money to the unions, and they pass most of it on (less their cut) to Labour.

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  21. 47
    Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:

    FUCK !!!

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    • 50
      Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:

      DOUBLE FUCK !!!!!!

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      • 54
        Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:

        FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCKITY FUCK, FUCK, FUCK !!

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          just an idea says:

          Is this why “Light Touch” Balls has backed out of a meeting with City hacks tonight?

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        • 91
          Fish says:

          He also said that no one at the Education Dept was involved….and that he was Education Minister at the time!!!!

          What is Balls up to? Knifing Miliband perhaps?

          Turning a blind eye to the personal poll ratings that he commisioned (which told hom he was as popular as a bowl of sick), perhaps he now sees this as his (or his wife’s) opportunity to grab power.

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          • jgm2 says:

            Not at all. He (rightly) sees this as a time to be back-peddling from anything to do with the Imbecility and the reign of Idiocy.

            Dum-de-dum-de-dum just pootling along being education minister, minding my own business, not interfering with the economy, grandstanding and sacking that Shoesmith woman costing the taxpayer a million quid in a (laughable) wrongful dismissal judgement, dum-de-dum-de-dum. Fuck all to do with me.

            This is the ‘genius’ of Labour electing Vacant Ned. He, as a died-in-the-wool no-mark is unsullied by the sins of higher fliers like Toxic Ned, ‘What the voters on the doorstep are asking me’ Cooper, Rendition Straw, his brother, Dave ‘the Torturer’s Apprentice’ Miliband etc etc.

            Vacant Ned can, quite credibly, give it ‘I had no idea’. And, looking at the gormless c*unt, who could doubt it?

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          • Fish says:

            …and another thing!

            Former City Minister, Myners said he knew nothing of the LIBOR issue, did Balls and Brown? If so when?

            Joint investigations into this started in 2007/8. Does anyone believe that the Government and BoE were not informed by the FSA that an investigation was taking place??

            Informed formally or informally? Not forgetting that deputy head of FSA at the time was Brown’s buddy (and HBoS wrecker), James Crosby. Crosby who was in the unique position of working for an organisation that was investigating his former organisation.Crosby who got another couple of Gigs from Darling and Brown (and had a role in the Treasury), eventually receiving a knighthood.

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          • jgm2 says:

            Crosby became persona-non-grata during the Imbecility when the report he was commissioned to write supporting ID cards found that there was no need at all for the fuckers.

            Look it up.

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          • Fish says:

            I can’t think for one minute that Gorgon would fall out with anyone!!! And I still can’t believe that Myners knew nothing of this.

            PS: JGM2 isn’t your car reg by any chance (saw that one near LHR a few weeks back)?

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      • 58
        jgm2 says:

        Is that ‘embarrassing’ in the sense of being hounded out of your job by a baying press like Bob Diamond.

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        • 60
          The Liebour Party says:

          We’ve got the Press and TV on a very tight leash.

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        • 67
          The Paragnostic says:

          To be fair, Diamond was in charge when some Barclays dealers were artificially raising the Libor submissions in order to make excess profit on trades, so ought to go for that. It’s not like he couldn’t afford to give up work and laze around all day, is it?

          I do hope he has reams and reams of contemporaneous notes about the events of 2008, though – the revelation of more Labour malfeasance will entertain me no end.

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          • jgm2 says:

            The parameters of any ‘enquiry’ are already being focussed on whether (or not) individual bank employees colluded with their opposite numbers to protect their individual positions. No ‘mission-creep’ to include political interference at the macro level will be tolerated. Remember: the Bank of England MPC is independent now. Just like the office of Budget Responsibility.

            In an unrelated mater I have acquired the title deeds to London Bridge which I am, reluctantly, looking to sell on in order to finance another deal. Would you be interested.

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          • AC1 says:

            @JGM2
            Please don’t send your offer to Kirkaldy.

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    • 55
      Mad, Bad & Dangerous Gordon McRuin ( Member in absentia ) says:

      Calm down. Wasn’t it Sue ?

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      Blowing Whistles says:

      Darling on CH4 News – right at the end of the interview – muttered (about the libor exposures) those ambiguous words “I do not believe …”

      As for the interview with the disgusting Barones Disease Kingsmill – She’s the legal plant in it all; given the Title by Bliar & Co and she doesn’t want anyone to know about her despicable behaviour as a lawyer evading a pay out to a couple who’s daughter was ‘seriously’ injured in an accident about 11 years ago. [See the net Barrister and promoted to Judge Peter Clark – Public Domain Telegraph] Sick legal vultures.

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      • 143
        Fish says:

        On Newsnight, Vadera is similarly reported to ‘not recalling a phone call with the BoE – which Chucky describes as a denial – nothing though about Balls admission that calls could have happened.

        Allegro grudgingly acknowledges that this is a Labour problem, but very quickly conflates this with the Governements difficulties over the nature of the forthcoming inquiry – as if the setting up of the inquiry equates with potential interference of Ministers and poor regulation.

        Anything that Diamond says tomorrow is pre-rubbished by the BBC as ‘revenge’. The BBC is moving into full ‘protect Gordon / Eds’ mode

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  22. 48
    Barclay Snotso-Greenbank says:

    We’ve fixed Liebor by releasing carbon in the form of Diamond.

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    Saffron says:

    Thanks for that 39.
    Seeing that the union bosses are dinosaurs,I presume that the modernisation is’nt working.
    So this is just a scam by the present government to hand money to the Liebour party knowing where it ends up.

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    just asking says:

    When Labour lose the Commons vote on which kind of inquiry will be held into Libor-rigging, will this give Millibandwagon an excuse to refuse to comply with a parliamentary inquiry?

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    • 75
      nellnewman says:

      If labour, after tonight, refuse to comply with Parliamentary Inquiry into Banking under oath they’ll look like criminals refusing to answer questions under caution!!

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      • 88
        jgm2 says:

        Which, somewhat carelessly, means that we can now draw negative inferences from them withholding information which they later rely upon in court.

        Plus that whole double jeopardy thing whereby if the jury doesn’t get the ‘right’ verdict the first time then they can be retried on exactly the same evidence with a ‘better’ jury. Jack Straw is probably hoping age will save him. The Maximum Imbecile is a slam-dunk for an ‘insanity’ plea – in fact the prosecution will probably plead insanity on his behalf.

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  25. 72
    Joss Taskin says:

    Any truth in the rumour that Ed Bollokov, Liam Byrne & Chuka Urmunneyaround have been seen loitering outside the Ecuadoran Embassy ?

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  26. 80
    LieBore manipulating LIBOR says:

    It’s what we do! – and you’re all too thick to notice – and you’ll all be voting for us again soon – what’s to stop you? – surely not camertwat? – suckers!!

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  27. 82
    albacore says:

    Oh no, not another “consultation”
    Is there owt at all left in the nation
    They haven’t yet made so mucky and miry
    That it needs a deep, incisive inquiry?
    Trouble is, you can bet our lords and masters
    Will have nowt on offer but sticking plasters

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  28. 89

    Five percent of the people think;
    ten percent of the people think they think;
    and the other eighty-five percent would rather die than think.

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    • 92
      jgm2 says:

      Is that Stalin’s first rule (or rule 1,2 and 3) of politics?

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      • 93

        Saw it as attributed to Edison but have no idea about the veracity of this.

        I do know that Russell did say:

        People would rather die than think – most do.

        Today I met separately two people whom I regard as both exceptionally intelligent. That is a real bonus.

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        • 105
          The Paragnostic says:

          People aren’t taught to think – the idea that a critical faculty is useful is anathema to the political class, as they can’t have the rest of us pointing out the wardrobe malfunctions of the emperor.

          I’m sure I remember having to study a bit of philosophy and literature in my 6th form years, despite choosing double maths and physics for A-level. What are the chances of today’s 6th formers being forced to think?

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          • jgm2 says:

            IB for you my boy. Not recognised (naturally) by the politicised league tables.

            Critical thinking is discouraged by the bedwetters. Lots of lovely modular GCSEs to convince the plankton of how clever they are though.

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          • Talking about wardrobe malfunctions, I was speaking to an Austrian molecular biologist today at the FKK site where we have adjacent plots. We both were wearing what we were born in and she is quite easy on the eye. *coughs*

            However, I found her far sexier for what she was able to talk about than her albeit very pleasing shape. With her husband and four year old child in the background, I was of course the model of propriety.

            However when you only have your brain to give another person an impression of yourself, as opposed to designer gear or other ego related stuff, one gets a much truer impression of that person’s quality of thought, as do they of yours.

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          • jgm2 says:

            Under the circumstances my ‘quality of thought’ would probably be expressing itself trough the medium of an erection.

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          • Dr David Bellamy says:

            Did you discuss her enormous bush?

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          • @jgm2 I have only had that happen once in well over three decades of FKK experience. I thought about my grandmother and the workings of LIBOR (1980s) and it passed. Another remedy is to jump in the water.

            The trick is not to look at the parts you want to but to concentrate on the other person as a thinking being. (Sounds hackneyed but is true.)

            I have gone away from conversations with women that I would have given my eye teeth to have in the biblical sense and thought Why were we talking about the high point of Renaissance art (or whatever) when all I really wanted to do was shag the arse off her?

            Strangely, it is still satisfying to have been able to keep one’s cool although I am not the type to suggest that should be the only outcome.

            If I were the sort to take advantage of such situations *cough*, I think I have actually garnished more points towards such an objective that I would have done by gawking.

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          • jgm2 says:

            the high point of Renaissance art

            Fat bird then?

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          • There are the occasional meat mountains there that one encounters in central Europe but the younger ones watch themselves better and take care of their looks and possess a razor which they use to a very satisfactory manner.

            Where they have hair they can sit on, it is growing from their head…

            I accept that not everyone would like to be here and have my experiences. But, considering the vicissitudes, I get by…

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        • 128
          AC1 says:

          I’d rather meet two people who knew they were stupid than two “clever” types. Much more reliable.

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          • jgm2 says:

            Is that a double-bluff using the Dunning–Kruger principle?

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          • Would agree completely. AC1. But I was talking about two people whom I regarded as intelligent.

            I know I am stupid because I obtained hardly any qualifications. When I meet someone who is more intelligent than I am, I do not feel threatened, entirely the opposite.

            I want to obtain whatever knowledge they have. I steal, mercilessly. Contrary to Iago’s problem (Who steals my purse steals trash…etc.) it not impoverishes them.

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  29. 96
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Libor Labour Lies

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  30. 100
    Aunty Matter says:

    I see the BBC news are trying to make the type of inquiry the ‘MAIN’ issue. Why BBC? Why were the BBC not calling for such an inquiry back in 2008? Labour could and should have called for one then but they didn’t, so why now?

    The BBC trying to divert attention away from Gordon Brown and Ed Balls once again.

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    • 108
      jgm2 says:

      The ‘type’ of enquiry is all important. As is the remit. Way back when the Clinton’s were investigated over some dodgy land deal. But the remit was not sufficiently ‘constrained’ and, before Bill Clinton knew what was happening, he had some woman submitting the contents of her freezer for DNA testing. Which even I have to admit is a world away from some dodgy land deal.

      Blair learned from that which is why his Iraq ‘enquiry’ was asked the question ‘If I was handed this report by the intelligence services would I be justified in going to war in Iraq’. The ‘enquiry’ wasn’t allowed to pronounce on how many times Blair sent the report back to be rewritten until he got the report he wanted.

      This is what is concentrating Labour minds at the moment. As long as any enquiry is constrained to focus only on relatively minor inter-bank Libor fixing then they don’t give a shit. Quite the opposite. Keep the focus on the banks.

      But if the suggestion is to broaden the enquiry to look into political interference of interest rates 1997 – 2010 then the toys will be straight out of the pram. In fact the pram will be on fire. Anything to avoid an inquiry into the level of interest rate interference during the Imbecility.

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      • 173
        Blowing Whistles says:

        Part of the big game or ruse upon the public to be more concise; is that The Government of the day never really will ‘do’ the previous Government of the day – Its just not Cricket old boy! yeu know all that stiff upper lip…service!!!

        There will always be lots of bluster and flim flam – as we see currently; but their game aided and abetted by the free press *cough*, *cough*, *cough* x10 is to make the public ‘feel like’ many have had a good bashing in the press.

        All these old ruses remind me of the Murdoch era – before that evil old creep died.

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  31. 101
    Liebour's Damnosa Hereditas says:

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    • 106
      The Paragnostic says:

      Hasn’t that Labour lead shrunk since the last YouGit poll?

      I wonder why, when they so manifestly had nothing to do with any rate fixing or other skullduggery?

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      • 133
        AC1 says:

        How would they know if they’d only got info from the MSM? Maybe more read blogs than is thought?

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      • 156
        cunt by name, cunt by nature says:

        The Conservative poll ratings always improve when Cameron stays out of the media.

        As soon as the moron returns, they plummet again.

        The moral, of course, is that the party would be much better off if Cameron fucked off and died.

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        • 169
          jgm2 says:

          I think you’ll find that Cameron does not have the luxury of deciding when to be on TV or not. Him being PM and all. I think that the Labour upswings are a direct result of Miliband being kept well away from the TV lest 40 million voters give it ‘Fuck me – he does look like Wallace off ‘Wallace and Grommit’ and make a voting decision based on that.

          ‘Hmmmm – do we want our national representative going to the G8 or an EU summit and banging on about the ‘wrong trousers’ or ‘cheese’ and being utterly clueless in a Hong Kong Fuey stylee way without his dog?

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        • 170
          The Tory Leadership Challenge says:

          What do you suggest then?

          That when the time comes, Maggie’s corpse be given to the Animatronics wizards at Disney Studios to reanimate and be controlled by a AI supercomputer lodged in the basement of 30 Millbank?

          Works for me!

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    • 107
      Aunty Matter says:

      7 points is that all? Tories only need to go up 3 and Labour down 3 and it’s a 1 point game.

      At this point Labour should be 15-20 points ahead.

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      • 112
        jgm2 says:

        Labour’s problem is that, however they try and manage it, Ed Miliband occasionally app*ears on TV and reminds voters of the reality of a Labour government. If Kinnock floundering in the surf and being an ‘I-love-the-sound-of-my-own-voice’ ginger Welsh ‘we’re alright, we’re alright’ mentalist wasn’t a warning to Labour.

        It’s like having that lead character off the ‘In Betweeners’ as PM. With a particularly annoying voice.

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    • 175
      Blowing Whistles says:

      What a shame that their polls only give the pollsters say 3 options – in order to “steer a poll” in “one direction” – when there are 4 or 5 opitions which of copurse the pollsters can’t tick.

      Statistics – My Boy!, My boy!
      BTW – Humphries of course has taken the Mudoch coin – but guess who’s got the e-mails John ………..?

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  32. 114
    Mecca says:

    In Bradford, Pilgrims are alive and well!

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  33. 116
    Puzzled says:

    So the UKIP, Conservative combined vote is 42% and the libdems is 10%. I can see why Cameron has to pander to the libdems, but its not clear why the libdems have to pander to Cameron.

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  34. 119
    jgm2 says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18695181

    Seriously though. Look at the BBC coverage.

    This is a story revealing that the BoE was onto Barclays to have a go at them for having too high a LIBOR rate.

    The clear story surely is that either

    a) The BoE was seeking to influence Barclay’s ‘high’ LIBOR figures

    OR

    b) ‘Senior Whitehall’ sources were seeking to influence Barclay’s ‘High’ LIBOR figures.

    Yet from the way the story is headlined and until the third paragraph it is presented as how ‘Barclays got busted for setting low LIBOR rates.’

    It’s breathtaking in its misrepresentation. It’s like Alistair Campbell was still writing all the news for the BBC.

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    • 125
      Arthur Haynes (Comedian) says:

      So let’s see then, the banks/Libor enquiry is a parliamentary one headed by Andrew Tyrie. Great idea, give it to someone that lives right in the heart of the city of London and keep it in the family. He can just stroll down the road to make sure his bank friends have their story right. Nice!

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      • 138
        just saying says:

        Surprise surprise-tonight’s Newsnight keen on judge-led inquiry.
        Pushed by some trampy-looking economist mate of Paul Marxist Mason and Chukkus Yamoney.

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      • 140
        The Paragnostic says:

        Another view might just be that Tyrie knows about banks and banking, so is well placed to assess what happened and recommend changes.

        The alternative proposed by Labour would have some dimwit judge (most likely a Labour camp follower, since 13 years of politicisation has ruined the justice system just as surely as it ruined the economy) making pronouncements about an area in which he has no background or training.

        I know which one I’d choose.

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        • 147
          jgm2 says:

          some dimwit judge (most likely a Labour camp follower,

          This works particularly well if you have (somehow) rigged the ‘enquiry’ so that despite the fact that you are in opposition you have the majority of MPs on the ‘enquiry’ and can, for example, predict the outcome so precisely that you’ve actually written it into a book before the findings.

          See the Leveson enquiry for details.

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        • 149
          UKIP.i.am says:

          The whole affair with the BoE wanting the Libor rate lowered reminds me of the words of Henry II when he said “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?”

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        • 152
          The BBC says:

          Arthur,

          We know you’ve been dead for nearly 50 years but we do have an opportunity coming up soon.

          Do you think you could fill Johnathan Ross’s shoes?

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      • 145
        UKIP.i.am says:

        Labour set to do a big U-turn and will probably have to accept the parliamentary enquiry, seeing as they weren’t allowed to get away with kicking the whole thing into the long grass being as it is such a big embarrassment for them.

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    • 130
      The BBC says:

      Our BBC Newsnight hag is now set to full Labour defence mode.

      Shity Shriti has nothing to account for – so move on.

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    • 131
      The Paragnostic says:

      Just watching Newsnight – I may have to stop soon, before I wreck my TV.

      Upchuck was smarmy and evasive, and they had some twat from Manchester Business School who can’t see the difference between Barclays traders massaging their Libor submissions upwards and the Treasury seeking to improperly influence Barclays to lower their submissions.

      Typical BBC.

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  35. 129
    EdBallsMutteringIdiot says:

    FFS, Maitlis letting Chucky Egg go into BTO- ‘Bullshit Turbo Overdrive’ !

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  36. 134
    Joss Ayinglike says:

    Truly shocking that Liebour should send out someone as amateur and weak as Chuka Urmunneyaround on Newsnight to defend Liebour’s malfeasance in the LIBOR scandal.

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    • 157
      jgm2 says:

      Not Chukky, the Grand Inquisitor at the hastily convened Labour bank show-trials?

      How splendid would it be to have Balls and Brown in such a T*ry-convened show trial.

      ‘So Mr Brown, how many PFI deals dio you have running to hide the true nature of the national debt?’

      You don’t know you say? It was 320 Mr Brown.

      Shielding a total of 250bn quid from the quoted national debt figures…’

      And so on and so forth.

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  37. 163
    Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:

    Calm down, calm down ! I shall be on the front bench tomorrow in the HoC doing silly hand signals as usual……

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  38. 177
    Yorkshire Volunteers Band says:

    So we’re a British marching-band, performing in France on July 4th, 2009– what are we going to play? In honour of all our American and former football hooligan friends, without further ado, Here we go, here we go, here we go!

    (Watch our conductor do his impression of Benny Hill as Fred Scuttle at the end!)

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