Dave Preparing Conference EU Blitz
The latest briefing to Tory MPs gives an interesting clue as to Cameron’s next move re-Europe:
From: CCHQ
Date: 2 July 2012
To: MPs Lines To Take
Subject: Political Topline: 2 July 2012Good afternoon. Please see below the political top line:
The Prime Minister is clear that an in-out referendum is not the answer right now. Instead we should first set out how we want to change our relationship with Europe and then as the end point becomes clear we should consult the British people, either in a general election or a referendum. He will set out more details of the Conservative Party’s position in the Autumn.
Faced with his choppiest conference yet as leader, it seems the PM is preparing some EU shaped hats and rabbits in time for Birmingham.
Preparing some smoke and mirrors more like.
In/out
It’s that simple, dave
“The Prime Minister is clear that an in-out referendum is not the answer right now.”
The Prime Minister is wrong.
Anything other than in -or- out is a cynical, dishonest, dodgy Europhile delaying tactic to buy enough time to get us ever deeper into the EU.
The question should be in or out!
Cameron is lying again. He has no intention of giving an in out referendum, or ever doing anything of the sort. Delay, fudge, obfuscate, blur, anything in fact that means he can dodge the issue, that will never go away.
You can tell when Cameron’s lying because his lips move.
To be fair it’s all a question of foreplay.
Is it directed at EU leaders and Brussels Mandarins abroad or will the UK be the sole recipient of Dave’s cunning linguistics. Just a blow job to get the back benchers off his neck perhaps.
Rubbish!
Leaving the EUSSR’s not in Dave’s (or any of the political rent-seeking classes) interests. But that means it’s definitely in our interest!
Let’s negotiate our departure intelligently and leave the EUSSR on our terms.
Farage the Barrage would have us depart slashing and burning all in our wake but there are ways of saying adieu amicably and there are ways of hacking off all and sundry.
Hack the knts off, see if I care.
+100
The way to say adieu amicably is to simply hold a referendum and then abide by the results.
I don’t think France, Germany, Italy…whoever can get cross if the UK parliament acts on the say-so of the UK electorate. We’re not voting for war. We’re just voting on self determination.
Sure they’ll mope about for a bit feeling as though we don’t love ‘em any more but they’ll get over it.
The EU is going the way of the wind up gramophone and will be remembered in future years, as yet another costly and misery inducing socialist experiment, that went, as socialist experiments always do, horribly wrong.
The Betamax coalition ending with a Scottish Devomax extra drain on the UK purse.
Yes, they’d mope and moan, but they’d still want to trade with us. Business is business, and money will override other concerns, as it usually does.
Guido, where the f**k are my posts disappearing to? I’ve posted two replies to Anonymous and JGM2(105 and its reply). Both seem to have disappeared into the blogosphere. You aren’t blocking some posters are you?
jgm2,there is no chance of it being “amicable” however we do it.
The Germans can’t forgive us for defeating them in WW2 & the French can’t forgive us for saving them.
I think French revisionist history has De Gaulle and the Free French storming the beaches of Normandy and single-handedly liberating Paris. And of course everybody was in the ‘resistance’ and most certainly not little Vichy collaborators rounding up the J*e*w*s and herding them onto trains for their German masters.
Fuck no.
Recent research has shown that only around 1% of the French population were ACTIVELY involved in resistance activities. While a good number passively supported the resistance, too many of the French people preferred collaboration and adapted to an easy life under the German occupation forces. The German Army were told to be friendly and not antagonise the French people who eagerly reciprocated.
There are too many proven examples of French civilians betraying downed British airmen, S.O.E. agents and resistance leaders to the occupation authorities to believe the majority of the French population lived under sufferance of the Nazis. Many of them eagerly embraced the opportunities Nazi occupation brought them.
Don’t forget, too, the Vichy French authorities eagerness in rounding up their Jewish population for deportation to the extermination camps in Poland.
That nearly all the French people were involved in resistance activity during World War 2 is a myth designed to salve the guilty consciences of most of the French people. Even ex-president Francois Mitterand was outed as a Vichy collaborator after years of his boasts of being in the French Resistance.
No Fooker believes Dave any more.
True. If he told me it was pissing cats and dogs, I’d stick my head outside, just to make sure.
and step in a poodle
Fox hunting to be banned
would you Adam & Eve it?
A second #1. The guido database triumphs again.
Hold all tickets pending a Steward’s Inquiry.
If it was a proper database it could/would enforce uniqueness.
I’m a unique kind of guy.
We sure as hell don’t need another devious lying bastard like you.
That would just throw an exception when a race condition was met (2 PHP threads hitting at exactly the same time). Better to produce some thread locking and tighten the code up rather than the Db.
The code is probably the problem here?
I’d trust a Db’s integrity enforcement over some monkey’s dodgy code any day. Simultaneous write requests can be handled perfectly easily.
Odd thing is that typically you would set the post count (or whatever its called) to be a unique and auto increment it. If that’s the case then its a bug in the version of the mySQL engine and it probably needs updating.
Yes Dave has done another “U” turn !
And decided to slaughter Badgers instead
Badgers are are much greater value to the nation than the present front bench – on either side of the aisle. A cull in Westminster would give us all a brighter future.
“are of” – sorry. The two brain cells aren’t cooperating so well today.
LIBOR
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/lie-bor-unwinds-just-how-much-stake
504 TRILLION….
Now who still says there’s not a credit bubble and debt deflation (removing excess credit) is something to be countered by central banks?!?
DC needs to many the fuck up.
Or we will have Prime Minister Ed Miliband.
Thought it was red ed’s turn next.
Is ‘many’ meant to be ‘man’ in your post? Sorry, but there’s no way Cam the Sham will ever man up on any subject. He’s just a cowardly, cojones-free, gutless wuss.
Now then Norman,get off the fence & say what you really think of him.
Does your hard nosed attitude towards the Prime Minister mean that you’re hoping Lord Ashcroft will make an offer for your web-site?
No he is hoping that Dirty Des will buy it
Enough tits here already.
Stop playing the man!
Prime Minister?
Temporary head monitor and errand boy morelike.
Grow a backbone Dave you useless tosser……
Bloody ‘ell, this is the fastest U-Turn in history!!!
Why do the Cons have to be told what to think can’t they think for themselves
Seems not.
We are automatons
Instead we should first set out how we want to change our relationship with Europe and then as the end point becomes clear we should consult the British people, either in a general election or a referendum.
what stunt is he trying to pull, we all know “the end Point” will be something he decides, there never will be an end point untill he gets the answer he wants.
Him and ken clarke must have worked on this for hours
Didn’t take long for the cast iron to crack and show us which way Camoron and his uconned us are forcing the country to go.
DC is a member of the Fuckawe tribe and is 3 feet tall. He lives in 4 foot grass. He spends his time shouting we’re the Fuckawe!
Trying to push a simple EU in/out vote into the long grass or, if that fails, coming up with a ‘contrived’ question to put to the electorate WILL NOT WASH.
Trying to come up with a contrived question to not put to the electorate more like. There will be no EU referendum.
Only the utterly naive will be fooled by this pretence.
Fuck off Cameron EU c’unt.
I hear they need a replacement for Bob D.
It’s extremely unlikely that France or Germany would allow UK to re-negotiate or repartiate powers anyway. It’s also unlikely they would allow UK all the advantages of EU membership without the disadvatanages so Cameron’s idea to renegotiate is dead before it starrts. The only option anyway in that event would be an in out referendum
Not long ago providing funding direct to Spanish banks wasn’t ‘allowed’?
A way can always be found…
A loan to compliant serfs like the Spanish to attempt to stop the EUro tanking is one thing.
Allowing anyone to escape from their corrupt little club on good terms, specially someone who is the second biggest contributer to the prison budget, is another matter altogether.
Is it a coincidence that the new type 45 destroyer HMS Diamond will be coming into dock soon?
Ah you mean the Mistral class Le Diamant
He is just Lying his arse off buying himself some time untill 2014 when the Lisbon treaty kicks in forbidding referendums unless all 27 member states vote for it
then he can turn round and blame the EU for not allowing it
Wanker !
In that case Dave has already won.
Your best revenge, as always, is to vote for somebody else and pay as little tax as possible.
I thought that the dates for General Elections were now going to be fixed, so the chances of our relationship with Europe having been discussed and being clear precisely in time for a General Election are slight in the extreme.
If the Conservative party together with the LibDems can do it once they can do it again. When push comes to shove there is little stopping the coalition deciding in their last year that with Labour having a blank piece of paper, that the 5 year fixed term should not be extended further [ in the best interests of the country]
Cuba had it’s Fidel Castro- look forward to a Fiddle Cameron.
For a loony, he sometimes speaks sense.
Very sad that he is just a one man band.
Good that’s less of them to trough at our expense. UKIP for me!
And me
Who the hell is going to believe a word Dave says?
“We’ll have a referendum on Lisbon Treaty”….”Er, no we won’t”
” I have used my veto”…..”Er,no I haven’t”
“No top down reform of the NHS”….”Er, let’s have some top down reform of the NHS”
“Let’s tax pasties”…..”Er, let’s not tax pasties”.
Etc, etc………..
Instead we should first set out what might happen when we can’t swan around Europe going to “critical” summits, staying in 5* accomodation, having chauffered limos and hard looking security details wearing dark glasses shadowing our every move, having photocalls and press conferences and generally looking important to further inflate our egos all at the taxpayers expense!
Secondly we need to break it to Nick Clegg that he won’t get that coveted European job he thought he was going to get when he’s out of office at the next election
We’re going to have to break it to the whole of the FibDem losers that they’re not going to get their noses into the Euro-trough. They’ll be fucking devastated.
With any luck Paddy Pantsdown might top himself.
Hang? If only it were true…
Don’t rush back
she does seem to like her gyppos…
Your smell nevertheless lingers on……..
Wonder if her other half is going?
Fuck off dog.
“The boat-dwelling Bajau are expert horsemen…” ??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bajau_people
I suspect that in the next 10 days they will be expert swordsmen to
Perhaps they ride sea horses?
What about the filth, smell, disease and vileness ?
They’ll just have to get used to me, won’t they ?
FFS she can’t get enough gypo cock
Why the fuck does J Bercow put up with her Whoring ?
Maybe she comes from the same agency as Sarah B
CAPTION CONTEST !
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/20/article-0-1240D28F000005DC-309_472x543.jpg
Gordon , do you realise i’m not wearing any knickers ?
Me neither Sally , Just my Pampers !
CAPTION CONTEST !
Gordon uses his tried and tested sexy come hither look
Ed Balls whispering even more balls into their lugholes. That Brownian vacant look must have taken years to cultivate.
Every cow has a silver lining.
Fuckin hell he’s slipping her more than just a few freebie clothes pegs
http://blog.tvguide.co.uk/?p=11718
Got to give her one thing she will travel thousands of miles for a shag
That’s because Paddy’s Pikey wife would rip her a new one
if she got hold of her
‘ve had it with Paul Mason. Newsnight’s economics editor, while clearly an intelligent man, is as openly partisan and fiercely Left-wing as it gets. Ever since writing his book, Why It’s Kicking Off Everywhere, last year, the man has become a roaming, state-sponsored propagandist for the types of young people who quite like the idea of Occupy London. He’s the sort of Lefty who rants about the “end of the neoliberal experiment” between interviews with dreadlocked, dope-smoking hippies squatting in some Arab oil trader’s Chelsea townhouse
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielknowles/100168481/its-not-that-bad-to-be-a-graduate-despite-left-wing-agitprop-merchants-like-paul-mason-might-tell-you/
As a shirt lifter, he does keep a clean inbox
why should anyone in their right mind should believe the word of a pr spiv ?
Another ewe turn.
Nightmare’ plans for 6-month paternity leave to be rewritten after opposition from businesses
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Just to let you know that it was Labour who came up with this hidious law change in 2006 so it’s not so much a “U” turn as a repeal
The plans, announced in the Queen’s Speech and championed by Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg, would see maternity leave end at 18 weeks and allow fathers up to six months’ paid paternity leave.
The world and his wife can see right through you Camoron you lily livered amoeba of a politician. The more you say no, the louder the demands will become. You had your chance, no one trusts a blind word you say anymore.
Fuck Dave, vote UKIP.
He should try wearing a smile the miserable Jock C*nt
No need for the word ‘miserable’ there. It’s another tautology.
Wimbledon is just a facade created by the predator Strawberry industry to rob the poor! Strawberry growers are worse than city bankers! We should nationalise the British Strawberry industry and unionise its workforce.
With all those ball boys and ball girls about, why do tennis players keep balls in their pockets anyway?
The female players keep their balls in their drawers!
…well the Williams brothers do.
Sweet bloody jesu even in public the bbc are perving over sportsmen
What we’re meant to hear is something along these lines:
“Sure we’ll give you a referendum, we just want to make some half-fast proposals to try to ‘sweeten’ the whole secession deal first; no sense in just saying ‘We’re outta here,’ only to then have to negotiate every little bit with that lot over in Brussels, who ain’t exactly gonna be thrilled with us. We’ll get it all on the table, and whatever is put to a vote of the UK electorate will be final and binding and in our view the best possible outcome for all concerned. These matters take some time, and more than a small amount of patience, you know.”
But what’s really meant is something more akin to this:
“Sure we’ll continue to be screwed for the foreseeable future, but we’ll be negotiating for some extra lubricant in the meantime.”
To be honest I think they’d be glad to see the back of us.
Here is my opinion on recent events;-
I would like to have a
referendumU-TurnInquiryChillaxonThe EUBankersMiss-placed ChildrenTax Avoidance ThingyWell there you have it, my concise opinion with no ambiguity whatsoever.Fair enough. You’ve always said that
All marketeers are two faced lying bastards
What the fuck have we done now??????
I’m afraid I was vehry, vehry drunk
you exist
LOL! I think Buster missed your name…
This is true. Oh err, hang on.
Cameron can renegotiate NOTHING except under the provisions of Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty. Our future relationship with the EU can ONLY be determined under Article 50(2). The European Council presently has no reason to listen to Cameron until he proves he is serious and invokes the Article.
and if he does that ill just invoke 50(5)
That’s a chilling fact. But you don’t expect he has read the treaty do you?
Jeff Randall, writing in The Daily Telegraph where he is a senior executive, said he would not trust Mr Cameron “with my daughter’s pocket money”.
“In my experience, Cameron never gave a straight answer when dissemblance was a plausible alternative, which probably makes him perfectly suited for the role he now seeks: the next Tony Blair,” Mr Randall wrote.
says it all really
He can talk. I’m sure he”s been sniffing around my widow.
CCHQ is getting on my tits with this latest briefing.
Any more like this and I’ll “cross the floor”.
The gist appears to be that he’s going to put repatriation of powers in the manifesto. Again. As it was obviously such a votewinner last time. The flatearthers forget that’s as much as he can do without Nick’s permission.
Unlike Brown who sneaked off to sign without the voters permission
And reneged on a referendum. Then got a judge to declare that Labour manifestos were ‘not subject to legitimate expectation’ ie are a pack of lies and looked pleased with the ruling.
Why have you never mentioned this before in one of your exciting ripostes?
Lie back ( I do ) and think of……….yourself.
@93
Listen chaps I cant have Liam Fox one upping me (phnarr phnarr what).
You want to try being professional with that parasitic chain smoking imbecile attached to my every move.
Cam Expecting Rough EU Ride in Parliament
does this mean that bryant has got a double size butt plug
Changing relationships with Brussels or within Europe probably the order of the days to come. Not just a UK problem this is a European problem but there is no strong man to run the show. Iron Lady Angela is getting a bit rusty round the edges. Come along Dave the geezer to save us all.