Lord Sugar Reveals Gordon Brown Shouting Matches
Lord Sugar revealed all about his ill-fated spell as Gordon Brown’s enterprise champion during a speech to the Industry and Parliament Trust at Portcullis House last night. The Labour peer recalled how their conversations on boosting business achieved nothing as Gordon would regularly lose the plot:
“It was frustrating. Gordon wanted me to give him ideas on how to make British business great again but everything I said fell on deaf ears. It would always just end with him shouting me down.“
Sugar went on to accuse Brown’s “British jobs for British workers” pledge of being an empty promise, describing his annoyance at the Prime Mentalist’s lack of desire to fight EU red tape. It must have been a new experience for the Apprentice boss to have been on the receiving end…
There is a pattern emerging.
McHollow… McVoid… McWasteOfSpace…
Libor schmibor, we are untouchable.
Alan Sugar – The Governments Champion of British Enterprise
That’s all you need to hear to show how mad Brown was/is
I always thought Gordon was such a nice, even tempered man – that’s what Tony and Sarah said, anyway.
Ah, but Sarah is very forgiving, she just ignores his rants.
I wonder when they were alone Sarah called McNutter daddy.
The worst Prime minister and Chancellor in history.
And in the future.
Blair was worse as a Prime Minister. Brown’s problem as Prime Minister is he had to deal with the legacy of the worst Chancellor in history.
Yep. The two of them were a fucking catastrophe. Blair could have saved us from the Imbecile by firing him back in 2001/2 when he went on a borrowing-and-squandering spree.
It was obvious to anybody with an IQ higher than plankton that he’d lost his fucking mind at that point (if they weren’t paying attention until then). He should have been fired on the spot.
The awful choice was to appoint Sugar as anything.
Why do you think he needs to be a celebrity.
He is not making much in his day job.
He is pretty low down on the rich list.
He might be low down the ‘Rich List’ but he’s certainly richer than I am. But the point was not whether he was rich or not it was just the Imbecile going for the same sort of ‘Cool Britannia’ veneer of celebrity that Blair had used.
Associate yourself with popular figures in the hope that some of their stardust would attach to your voting figures. It’s why the Imbecile was chasing Omaha around a hotel kitchen. It’s why the Imbecile revealed the Af*gh*an*is*tan ‘surge’ before Omaha had cleared it with his own Congress. Just to get the news out there that he, the great and powerful Brown, has private conversations with POTUS. And look, as proof, I’m going to reveal some information that he hasn’t even cleared with his own Congress.
Omaha never spoke to him again after that.
What a jackass.
What a missed opportunity. The vital legislation was there ready to use all the time:
Mental Health (Scotland) Act 1984
17 Patients liable to be detained in hospital.
(1)A person may, in pursuance of an application for admission under section 18(1) of this Act, be admitted to a hospital and there detained on the grounds that—
(a) he is suffering from mental disorder of a nature or degree which makes it appropriate for him to receive medical treatment in a hospital; and
(i) in the case where the mental disorder from which he suffers is a persistent one manifested only by abnormally aggressive or seriously irresponsible conduct, such treatment is likely to alleviate or prevent a deterioration of his condition
Agree totally.
I hope history looks back on these two imbeciles and judges them as the architects of Britain’s downfall.
I hope they both die of a painful illness. Soon.
But it is what the right people wanted from their villas in Tuscany and such.
The key word in the Act is treatment. As McBroon is untreatable (except with vitamin lead) he could not be admitted for treatment.
Why did Blare not sack him? He had the keys to the skeleton cupboard?
Regarding mental treatment for Brown, the Norweigians might be able to help. They could let him share a cell with Breivik, and watch them save the world (again) together
The shameless man might be back!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18616903
He did say he would serve a full term last time then half way through his term of office he handed the reigns to the one eyed imbecile.
In fairness to Blair, Brown’s endlessly wicked and malicious briefing against Blair over the course of a decade made it very difficult to continue.
That said, Blair should have simply manned up and fired the fucker. There is some terrible mutually-assured-destruction standoff that was played out there that has still not been revealed. There has to be some reason Blair didn’t simply fire Brown. And not just the ‘good’ of the Labour party. Because clearly neither Blair nor Brown gave a fuck about that.
I would love it if he stood for office again.
Everyone forgets he got hammered in the last council elections before Brown wrenched the position of PM from him.
Blair had been pretty much sussed out by the time he left and I suspect even the nitwit electorate of this country would be sensible enough to give him a thorough battering at the polls.
sarnie, It’s reins – not reigns nor rains either.
You must be joking. Blair was a good PM but with that twat Brown plotting and scheming away h did have rather a severe handicap.
Blair took us into a war with Iraq on the pretence of a dossier about WMDs that he was responsible for. He also made News International what it became.
Brown on the other hand made the banks what they became. Its a toss up between two tossers.
Bliar was and still is, a warmongering, dishonest, self aggrandising, venal, self centered, con-man and thief. The only thing the fascist in chief was good at, was filling his pockets and killing people.
Crap. Blair thought like everyone else that Saddam had a WMD program and NI had fuck all to do with him. And to be blunt I defy anyone to explain what they have done wrong that the Guardian has not done wrong, at least NI pay tax rather than claiming tax losses
As far as the non-existant WMDs are concerned, Iraq was subject to constant satelitte and air surveillance, electronic communication interception, agents etc for a decade since the first gulf war but they purportedly still managed to get it totally wrong. It had to be deliberate.It was an excuse for regime change.Whether that was right or wrong is a matter of opinion but it was dishonest.
You have to much faith in spying. It’s not like the films and is an uncertain craft that is often wrong. But given that Saddam did have a history of making and using WMD then erring on the side of supposing that he is still making them is not that bad a thing to do
May I suggest that you read “Most Secret War” by the late Professor R V Jones , who headed the scientific section of MI6 during the second world war. His department was remarkably up to speed on enemy weapon developments against a foe of equal standing without the benefit of modern technology.
Compare and contrast with the massive disparity in money and resources thrown at keeping tabs on a third world dictatorship as Iraq and account for how they managed to get everything entirely wrong.
By not taking any action on either getting rid of Brown, or letting it be publicly known what a liability Brown was, Blair put himself first, the country second. For that history will judge Blair. The media have a lot to answer also.
Agree, that Blair is worse, it was easy to see that McDoom was a lying cnut.
Am I talking to myself? NURSE.
How can politicians who have never had a “proper job” or experienced trying to create a business be any good at understanding British business… The whole set up of government is a busted flush!
All a politician need to understand about business is that he knows nothing at all about business and so should not try to “improve” business.
Bliar and Brown give a whole new meaning to the word “incompetant”
And a whole new spelling
He did 13 years in power for the vast majority of which the City thought he was marvelous.
Gordon Brown a bullying Europhile, who would have thunk it?
At least we now know where SAS got his “Apprentice” persona from.
Your comment on SAS is really unfair, you should not mock care in community
Sralan at his finest.
And so Sugar tries a couple of times to influence government policy; gives up and is left merely to …
… shape legislation that will affect the rest of us for the rest of our lives, whilst we pay him to do it.
And we can’t get him out of the Lords ….?
Lalalalalalalala – I am not listening, Damian go and shout at Sue for letting this man into my office.
Sod off you Scottish git! ack: Damian McBridle
if that’s how the last leader of the labour party treated Lord sugar .
I doubt that Len McCluskey the present leader will tell Ed to treat him
At least Gordo was taking advice from captains of industry. Who are Dave n Ed listening to?
You mean ignoring, obviously.
The pattern is that Gordon Brown is a bloody liar who cannot tell the truth even under oath. Of course that will not worry Leveson, as the law only applies to Tory ministers and those who might support them.
OTOH Sugar probably begged for all sorts of debt market meddling to keep his failing commercial property investments above water.
I’d have thought that would be exactly the kind of initiative the Maximum Imbecile would be receptive to. Slash interest rates and keep the pr*ice of houses massively inflated so that everybody feels good about their massive mortgages that they took on during the ‘boom’ years.
Guido!!!!
It is “passion”
It started at Barcleys . Gordon McDoom
did you hear that twonk on newsnight the other day claiming the European currency and sovereign debt crisis ‘started in America’!! God people are thick. Even Paxo had to tell her she was talking ‘tripe’
The streets of old
were paved with gold
and I was perfectly willing to swear
that a banking timebomb went tick tock
as I walked around Barclay Square.
Someone is lying
If every time somebody lies an angel cries then that explains the fucking awful weather in Fife.
Whatever you do don’t open the fucking box
Why? Because you’ll find a dead cat in there 50% of the time.
Don’t f*cking encourage him…
Nope. You’ll find a 50%-dead cat in there all of the time.
I accept full responsibility. That is why Lord Sugar as the person responsible had to go
Bigot
what with this lousy fucking weather – another 2 hour torrential thunderstorm – and this fucking nazi government it seems the best way out is to kill yourself before they do
I’ll tell you what me and my mates used to do to Nazis…. Incinerated their children by the hundreds of thousands, from 30,000 feet. That’s bravery you won’t find these days!
I do not personally regard the whole of the remaining cities of Germany as worth the bones of one British Grenadier.
that is because you are a psycopath
Well maybe we should have just let them invade
Prick
Nah. Collective responsibility. Sow the wind and reap the whirlwind.
Bomber Harris had the right idea. Fuck ‘em.
“The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.” Bomber Harris.
The nazis lost, get over it.
All forms of socialism have taken a canning. We must not let up and keep bombing the fuck out of it wherever it emerges its sordid face.
Bomb on the green – ignore yellows and blues.
Arthur Harris’s great insight was that the Allied soldiers wouldn’t have to fight house-to-house in German cities, if there were no houses. Or cities.
The same insight that saw the yanks flatten Hiroshima.
Imagine the deaths (on all sides) if the yanks had had to fight their way through every city and village in Japan.
Fuck off
+ lots — ever hear of the Blitz, you vile piece of shite?
surely the Blitz was self-defence – we declared war on Germany after all?
Maybe so. So was the Israelis invasion of the Lebanon – an act of self defence.
Preter – Best you get back to your occupy tent and drink some herbal tea to calm down
and the holocaust was an act of bravery you piece of shite
Fuck off!
Then there was Coventry, Exeter, the East End, Liverpool…..
That’s what you get during Total War. If the enemy is intent on your total destruction, you use every means at your disposal to stop him.
About 55,000 allied airmen lost their lives serving in Bomber Command. God knows how many Axis airmen. They knew the risks, but went anyway, to serve their country. That’s bravery.
Unlike the kind of bravery to be found by some dickhead making trite remarks from behind the anonymity of a keyboard. Wonder if preter is brave enough to sound off down his local?
Sounds like preter is someone who wears the uniform at other events other than stag parties for toffs
Too right. And at average age of 22. What were they supposed to do, cower away and wave a white flag when Germany invaded the UK? Or maybe drop pamphlets asking the Germans if they would be so kind and stop invading the rest of Europe they hadn’t already indeed?
Sorry Roy, your fellow travellers on the left – the National Socialists lost the war.
You really need to accept that.
The National Socialists were not real Socialists, just ask any Socialist.
The left – rewriting history as and when it suits.
Just because the German state totally controlled prices and production, doesn’t make it socialist…
Oh. It does.
Brian: Excuse me. Are you the Judean People’s Front?
Reg: Fuck off! We’re the People’s Front of Judea.
What ever the message given out in those Nuremberg rallies it certainly wasnt you know what, what we need is a smaller state !
Is Roy of the Raf real? Did Lancasters really fly at 30,000 feet? A bit chilly up at that level to say the least (not to mention exceptionally thin air).
Sugar is fibbing. The meeting never took place.
We can confirm we have no record of any such meeting on 12 sept 2009.
In fact on that date he was in the USA giving John Revolta a massage
Sue, have you finished doing all the shredding yet?
They probably had a secret room for secret meetings – accessed Scooby Doo style through a secret revolving door that looked like a bookcase
It was the evil Mr Gordon after all!
…and he’d have gotten away with too, if it hadn’t been for those meddling voters!
The meetings were taken out of context
Number 10 diary entries are not subject to legitimate expectation
Will gordon turn up nfor the statment on Barclays? after all it was he who set up the FSA
FSA = “Fucking Say Anything” (TM) G. Brown.
F**kin Stupid Ar**holes more like
I would like to be PM again. Especially how the country can see if was all his fault and not mine.
Have you found your receipts yet Tony?
W.W.
I did as you asked Tony; i’m sure I got them all.
The unedited version:
“It was frustrating. Gordon wanted me to give him ideas on how to make British business great again but everything I said fell on deaf ears. I said to him, “Why don’t we build factories that make lots of cheap and crappy stereo systems that are fit only for landfill? Or crappy slow computers that overheat? It would always just end with him shouting me down.“
Or telephones with shite email built in that we charge 50p for every email received or sent
Or creating lots of jobs and goods for export so tossers can live more comfortably on welfare.
I’m not entirely sure, this side of 1988, that Lord Sugar’s crappy products could be exported anywhere. Except maybe North Korea.
Sugar’s principally known for fronting a gameshow and for cheapo hi-fi that sounded like it was being played underwater.
Only a dunderhead like Brown would hire someone like that to promote a revival in British business.
>being played underwater
Under mud, I’d say, and it was lo-fi to begin with. He even called it “the mug’s eyeful”, with all the redundant knobs and flashing lights.
At least he then told him to stfu, according to this story, unlike the countless yes-men sucking up to that hypocritical gargoyle Mary Portarse.
‘Yes, I’ll save the highstreet from out-of-town shopping centres. While also running a company that promotes them.”
Brown promoted him because Sugar was well-known because of his TV presence. The fact that Amstrad products were/are all shite was neither here nor there. Brown just wanted him in the hope that some celebrity stardust would rub off on his Imbecile reign.
Brown didn’t take economic advice from anybody. He has a complete Edward-Lear-inspired fantasy world constructed for himself and nobody else is allowed in to play.
No wonder the Imbecile went ballistic if anybody suggested anything that didn’t squeeze neatly in between the Pobble who had no toes and ‘no more boom and bust’.
I’m surprised Brown made such a bad fist of things. You’d have thought the 10 years he struggled to get his PhD in ‘the history of the Scottish Labour Party’ would have been ample experience for running a major world economy.
As the sainted Fatcher said. It’s no more difficult than running a household budget. You just don’t spend more than you earn.
Being chancellor is as simple or as difficult as you choose to make it.
Brown chose to make it difficult for himself (and us) by spending more than he earned and then had to spend from 2001 – 2010 trying to convince himself (and us) that it was all very ‘prudent’ and sensible economics.
What an incompetent jackass.
+ a few. Follow Charles Dicken’s maxim and don’t get overwhelmed by all those zeros. Millions of solvent Brits manage it, and any of them would make better Chancellors than any incumbent since 1997.
Brown over-reached himself with public spending. For some idiotic reason he believed the boom in banking and housing could last as long as Hitler thought the Third Reich could last. He was and is buffoon. Yet the MSM still will not submit his banking record to close scrutiny. He was the boss of banking and it was his regulations that failed so abysmally.
Only now under the coalition government are all his banking failures being exposed.
Why is Brown not being subjected to the same kind of abuse as bankers? What was the Labour government doing at the time all these banking abuses were at their height?
I’m sorry but I’m going to rep*eat myself.
The reason Brown has got away with this was because while there was hell going on behind the scenes for a year before the banking bailout was announced Brown, with the same secrecy he attached to making sure nobody got any leaked information about his budgets, was able to keep it all hushed up.
This allowed him to manage the clusterfuck in such a way that the banks were the ones who got the blame. This was helped enormously by the BBC, astonishingly, on the very morning that the whole ‘bailout’ was presented having a handy 25 minute show-and-tell beautifully choreographed explanation that involved 1980′s ‘big-bang’ archive footage and no mention at all of the Imbecile.
I shit you not.
I remember when Lady Di died. I was bobbing around on a seismic boat in the Malacca Straights and I made an off-hand remark that the BBC would be so wrong-footed that they’d probably be playing sombre music like the old Soviet Union used to when Brezhnev or whoever would die in lieu of having any output. And fuck me, if I wasn’t proven right.
Yet the morning of this shock bailout. An event that, we were told, had literally arisen overnight and been cleared up by the singular genius of Gordon Brown after he’d weighed up all the options over breakfast we were presented with a 25 minute BBC presentation on whose fault it all was and how it had all started in America. This from an organisation that took at least 24 hours to get together some kind of output when Lady Di had a c*a*r crash. Dutifully rep*eated verbatim by The Sun and all the other Nu Labour mouthpieces of the day.
That’s how Brown got away with it.
The Big Lie. And the BBC was in on it all the way. Because of the unique way they’re funded.
Do you remember the ERM debacle? How the BBC were all over the T*ries?
Yet when Brown destroyed the UK economy there were the BBC with a piece that must have been scripted by Al Campbell and Gordon Brown explaining how it ‘all started in America’.
Reason alone to close the BBC.
Tour de force
Actually not so much Edward Lear, as Beatrix Potter’s The Tale of Ginger and Pickles. It completely inspired his credit fuelled ‘boom’, unfortunately he never read it to the end where the money runs out.
while deliberately paying his landlord cheques that bounced.
Don’t forget the “portable” computer that required a Bergen just for the battery.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Amstrad_PPC512_open.jpg
Is that the computer Labour spent £20 billion on to run the NHS?
That looks like the iPads we have just purchased. Amazing!
He is goodenough for the BBC.
Why is it that we are hearing more and more about McDoom from people who have had close experience of him? They obviously know what they are talking about. The labour party have known about him for many years, yet they still let him become leader unopposed.
Listen, getting an HP printer ricocheting off yer left ear ‘ole was no fun I can tell yer.
They are repeating the same pattern now,in years to come we will look at the shadow front bench and think what the F***. Have they really got nobody better than Ed M, Ed B. Hattie, Yvette etc ? The wannabees in the background, Bryant,Watson, Chukka and co are even worse. David Cameron must think he has died and gone to heaven !
True, but limpdem dave who is holding all the cards is still phucking it up
If Labour were holding 4 Jokers, the BBC would do an article on how Jokers are special cards and try to mislead people as to the rules of the game.
Said bbc programme to be fronted by the arch coverup merchant for Brown etc., ………….none other than Nick Robinson, his tongue should be covered in black spots the coverup lies he told for Labour………..and still continues to do.
Not if he turns round and looks at his own front bench he won’t!
Indeed. And then lacked the courage to unseat him. David Miliband – that’s you I’m talking about.
Even after the ‘miracle economy’ was finally revealed as nothing but smoke and mirrors they let him spend another three years squandering even more money trying to cover up his imbecile economic blunders. Blaming every fucker but himself. Not a hint of contrition. Not a scintilla of self-doubt or reproach for causing the biggest economic clusterfuck in eighty tears.
Smoke, Mirrors and Arson…
It would make a great plot for someone like Robert Harris to use-psychopath PM wrecking the country while ministers and media idiots publicly praise him as a genius. Spice it up by making teh PM character a closet gay and serial killer.
I didnt realise Gordon had actually killed someone (personally and not vicariously)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malignant_narcissism
And what were some of Surallun’s ideas? Because if his previous products or TV show are anything to go by, I’m not surprised he was shouted down.
Alan strikes me as a man who spins a good yarn about the good old days, but doesn’t know his arse from his elbow without an army of advisers whispering in his ear, or an editing team cutting out the millionth time he reminds everyone how he started out the back of a van.
Seems to me that most of his loot was made from the property speculation enabled by his good friend Gordon. Amstrad products can’t have made all that much.
Well to be fair most Sky STB’s are manufactured by Amstrad
And Sky bought Amstrad !
Rupes was just getting his mate out of a hole, because Sugar is actually a rather rubbish businessman.
I wish I was as rubbish as Sugar is.
Sugar is as nutty as Brown. He lives in a celeb bubble of his friends’ creation.
Judging by the photo Nick or Karen have just found his prostate
….. and they didn’t walk away at the time and tell him to ‘Sod off’ – that’s how bullying wasters like Brown survive. The David Brent of UK Politics
Quite right, perhaps if somebody had cracked him in the early years we may have been saved all this pain now.
Not everything is black and white.
The noble / ignoble Lord should have realised that in respect of British jobs for British workers when multiculturalism was being pushed down the throats of the population any spoonful of sugar would make the medicine go Brown.
Ha ! Ha! Ha ! Ha ! Ha !
At this rate, there will soon be BBC Erratum, with Nick ‘let me just apologise for that/sources say/delete that tweet’ Robinson as the Erratum Editor, and Newswatch on Saturday morning at dawn will be when they actually manage to, for once, transmit news they have ‘got about right’.
Has Milibandwagon called for an enquiry into Light Touch regulation yet?
LABOUR – LIEBOUR – LIBOR
That picture of Ed Milliband raising his arms like the Messiah was priceless !
All aboard!
I wonder if Mandy will also come back when I am PM again?
I have spotted you Blair!
All you need now is for George Osborne to fall down a Diamond Mine and you are flavour of the month.
I can feel the hand of history on our shoulders Tone.
I for one would definitely prefer not to work for Alan Sugar thank you very much!
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaa waaaaaaaa waaaa
What we need is leveson and jay to set up another whitewashing of the banks,can start tomorrow
I think the secret is to do absolutely nothing.
That pesky Spaniard has been putting it about that Spain cannot continue unless something is done to reduce the high rates of interest on its debts.
Well if you do nothing then old miguel will just have to stop borrowing.
Its quite simple really.
Just let the Bankers stew in their own mire.
Greed is Good
Indeed it is, and in 1997 me McMental and Ed Balls out fathered fatcher with our light touch regulation.
I cannot recall meeting Brian Sugar
Did you save the world?
LIES! ALL LIES! I am a teddy bear, a soft, cuddly teddy bear who never loses his temper, and if you don’t agree, I’ll fucking Nokia your head in!
I have met some shifty Hunts in my time and you my friend are up there with the best of them.
If you wanna get rid of EU red tape you don’t support the fuckin’ Labour party Alan!
Or the Tory party.
just a thought, do you think that brown gets his leg over
No, he rides a ladies bike.
http://photobucket.com/images/obama%20girls%20bike
Michael Foot, Neil Kinnock all great leaders do.
Another mindbleach moment.
Turkey baster.
I did a double take last night when the news mentioned what sounded like “Liebore”. For a second I thought a term used by co-conspirators’ had made it to national news. But it turned out to be nefarious behaviour by Barclays.
Barclays was WRONG.
At a time when negotiations are still ongoing?
We need GROWTH.
Aye. ‘Growth’ financed by simply borrowing and/or printing more money and giving the public sector a payrise in the hope that it will ‘trickle down’ through the economy.
Funny that the bedwetters deride ‘trickle down’ theory when it comes to giving folk tax cuts but see it as rock solid economic policy when it comes to rewarding union voters with unearned pay-rises.
With Labour it’s all tripe and unions.
Theeth nathty bankerth mutht fathe cwiminal chargeth, oh yeth they thould. The fact that it happened while we were in Government ith totally iwwelevant.
My light touch had nothing to do with it, ask Gordon.
All of this happened between 2005 – 2009.
Who was the Goverment of the day?
What did Myners, as City Minister, do when it became known in 2008 (The NYT reported this)?
If he did nothing, why not?
How did Brown respond to this? What instructions did he give Myners and the Treasury team of Balls and Miliband Inferior?
Why is Miliband jumping on another bandwagon complaining about matters of his making?
Has there ever been a bigger hypocrite in British politics?
Who the Fuck is going to point this out? Not the BBC who are in full hysteria – 5 Live Bint asking the leading question – what bank is ethical, what bank can you trust. (I wonder if she banks with the Co-op?) Surprise surprise up comes a caller who banks with Co-op. Callers tells another to switch to the Co-op, 5 Live Bint encourages her in the background and continues to seek callers asking / encouraging if they will switch banks.
The next story is about the hysteia surrpounding a rapist resettling in Scotchland. Clearly one form of witch-hunt is fine, another is not.
Labour-BBC-Lefty chavs, They love a bit of banging on prison vans whilst holding an unreadable shit juvenile placard that they’ve got up early to scribble their illegible fucking gargage on.
Labour is in the clear on this….they were only the government for 13 years and deny everything
So, adieu then, Minitel…
Maybe so. So was the Israelis invasion of the Lebanon – an act of self defence.
so smoggie says, the answer is YES
On tonight’s Question Time panel:
Justine Greening, Tessa Jowell MP, Paddy Ashdown, Tony Robinson, and Terry Smith, chief executive of Tullett Prebon.
So that will be one hour of Pantsdown narrowing his eyes pretentiously every time he makes one of his dull points.
May be tessa jowell will get in a plug for her mortgage signing service
Amateurs. We set up an entire department to ‘robo-sign’ to fake mortgage documents. Tens of thousands of forged documents per month to be submitted in repossesion court cases in the US.
And don’t think you in the UK are immune from us.
We own MBNA, and MBNA issues Credit Cards in the UK. All that opportunity for us to commit fraud, forgery, price fixing, market manipulation and steal from Brits… to good for us to resist.
My hopes are on Terry Smith. I have no idea who he is.
Terry Smith is OK – lives in real world creating real jobs and making real money. Better than politician any day
We’d all like British business to be ‘great’ again – actually, parts of it are pretty damn good even despite the adverse conditions.
This incident neatly illustrates one of the problems. Business wants the freedom to get on with it, unencumbered by regulation and interference. Government (parliamentary and Whitehall) wants to control, and is delighted by all the crap from Brussels that allows them to prodnose almost everything. Until that mindset is changed to something along the lines of ‘leave well alone unless absolutely necessary’, we won’t progess much.
In other words – when Brussels and Whitehall butt out, we stand a chance. Until then, we’ll struggle.
Millipede speaks at 11.00 am and within an hour and a half Osborne and Cameron are on the job blaming Labour for a light touch approach.
If Plod goes after Diamond now there will be at least 10 others to follow him.
Great work if you are a lawyer or a copper.
Perhaps another Inquiry is on its way.
Love the name Rinka Scott… Soon there will be hardly any of us left to get the reference. I must be old… but I don’t feel old…
Jeremy, Jeremy, Woof, Woof, Bang.
I made the mistake of picking up yesterday’s Evening Standard. Guest editor was war criminal Tony Blair. He also graciously agreed to a sycophantic interview with really hard hitting questions. I almost vomited when I read he said he pays 50% tax on all his income. What a barefaced lying c unt.
With the shits and incompetents you English have in London I am glad us Scots will be rid of the lot of you.
Tee hee.
Can’t wait.
Don’t forget to take RBS with you and pay the English back 80% of it’s bailout.
100%.
And 100% of HBoS.
We’ll take gold. Or oil.
Will 3 haggis and a deep fried mars bar do?
We will never surrender oor oil. Ye canna tack oor debts but you canna tack oor freebies.
Only take Euros
Biscuits, Whisky, Marmalade and moaning and fried Mars Bars. The World awaits.
You can’t get rid of a Scottish banknote now. Imagine the future.
Alex Salmond is WRONG.
Salmond has always sounded a bit fishy to me.
We will be sending your rejects back
Not at all. We’ll be keeping the ones with the sense to leave.
Arr.. the voice of rebellion, been rapped in cotton wool and spoon fed far too long eh?
It could just be that Sugar’s ideas were crap. And he needed shouting down.
Yes we need much more EU red tape and more restrictions on companies so we can compete even less with the rest of the world. Who needs growth and prosperity?
So, you were at the meetings? For all we ( includes you ) know his ideas may have produced more red tape.
Perhaps if you got to bed earlier….
Mass immigration is WRONG!
…and I pwopothe to do abtholutely nothing to thop it.
Rather like mass rioting but there again I would have thought that was obvious.
I am serving notice on the Diamond of Barclays that I will be suing you and others for billions of lost pounds when you and sundry others fixed the libor rate.
Please note, I want payment in gold not euros.
I will do my utmost.
Fuck !!!
You’re too old you silly c’unt.
Has anyone told you that your tattoos look stupid?
Not to mention the hair cut.
I’d shag his missus though, provided she puts a few pounds on. After all I don’t want to snap her.
So on the day we see Bob Diamond wriggling like a worm on a hook trying to defend the indefensible and save his worthless skin we are reminded of folks who had something worth defending and did it with bravery, dedication and skill, 55,573 never making it home.
Our Bomber boys.
Lest we forget.
…So Al, I’ll do about 10 years, let Bonkers have a shot and when he gets the boot some mug will have all sorts of shit to deal with….
The other day I did a magic jobbie. Nursie says it’s wrong to play with mah poohs, and that jobbies cannae be magic, but what does she know? She’s another one of those bigoted women.
Anyway, I smuggled my great big magic jobbie past Nursie by putting it in mah dressing-gown pocket and then put mah hands in mah pockets. It wis just like the wee trick I played with the empty tinnies, a brick and a carrier bag when I was a student, and it proves how clever I am and a’ that.
I played with the magic jobbie for hoors and hoors, making wishes and chatting away tae him until he went all melty and Nursie caught me and made me have a shower to get all the magic off mah face and hands and out of mah hair, but Nursie disnae understand that it was me who saved the world, with a wee bit of help from mah magic jobbie!
If I sniff really hard I can tell I’ve got some of the magic still under mah fingernails…. I love that smell, it’s the smell of mah cleverness and moral compass and Socialist principles all rolled into one. Magic!
Whatho, Chaps and, er, phwoar, chapesses. Bumble, bumble, bumble. Ah, yes, well, let’s piss away another 24 million of the jolly taxpayers’ spondoolicks, eh:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18619936
It’s a, ah, phwoar, “stunning addition to London’s transport network”, what? And a, ah, stunning addition to the public debt, to boot. What? Ah, oops, scrub that last bit, chaps, eh? Phwoar…
Two megolomaniac nutters having a spat. Yawn.
*************BREAKING NEWS *****************
David Beckham has NOT been selected for the British olympic footy team
shame
maybe the elites can get him another job? PM maybe
THIS IS NOT INTERESTING
Not selecting David Beckham is WRONG.
Does he have a brother called Ed?
All the Germans are saying How did we manage to lose the war against this lot?
If Hitler had challenged us to a penalty shoot out instead of Operation Barbarossa it would all have ended differently.
But Gordon didn’t need any special advisers, he was always right about everything…in his own world
Guido, anything to report on what your bankers mates have been up to ? No ? All quite there then ?
Yes. That’s right. Look at the bankers. Don’t look at who was in power when all this was happening and most certainly don’t mention anybody running 40bn quid deficits right through a credit boom.
Look over there.
At them.
Jgm2 actually I believe ALL should be called to account for this and the fact that Incompetent Politicians created the climate for fraud to take place on this massive scale doesnt in any way excuse those Bankers who actually have commited crimes from getting away with it. Its nota a distraction is the application of the law across the board which I want to see. That includes any politicians btw
This is ENRON all over again.
Siralan will see you now, Mr Brown
Looking at this matter in 32 degree sunshine it seems to me that millipede is the one who has kicked this up in the air.
Cameron and Osborne have both entered the fray but whilst criticising Labour’s light touch approach about which they did not have a great deal to say in 2007 they are trying to keep the lid on this can of worms and judging by the 50 point drop on the Ftse not making a very good job of it.
If Diamond goes this will only be the beginning.
True criminal activity will be found on the trading floor at Barclays plus plenty of other Banks.
Ken Clarke will definitely need to get building a few more prisons .
Questions have been raised as to the opaqueness of whats been going on in the banking sector in the City of London?
It seems that some pennies are finally dropping on what The UK’s Corporate Governance ought to have been – but which wasn’t.
In The USA they had Sarbanes-Oxley and lots of CEO’s had their collars felt properly.
To counter the US’s Sarbanes-Oxley – The then Labour Government in cahoots with the Banks & the CBI (Digby Mouthpiece being its head back then) introduced – the UK’s version of Corporate Governance – it was called the Derek Higgs report. Its flowery language and rhetorical jargon was littered with disingenuous ambiguity -e.g. the ‘we should do this’, ‘we should do that’ pap … etc [But they had no intention of doing squat]
And it was hailed by the likes of Patricia Hewitt and Digby Jones as the bees knees and then trumpeted out by the fawning city business editors of all the national newspapers.
All the lies, half-truths, duplicity, spin and cracks in the whole empty vessel (of Corporate Governance) are opening up now.
Don’t forget Matthew Barrett former CEO of Barclays – the gaff prone thicko from Canada.
They are both:
1.) fucking nuts
2.) purveyors of shoddy stuff
3.) imbecilic enough to believe that they are demi-gods – at least
And the D Mail quotes Marcus Agius over the Barlays libor thingy
MA “The board takes the issues underlying the announcement extremely seriously and views them with the utmost regret”
So there we have it from Agius – he’s viewed it all with the board with regret.
It is that he’s regretted that it’s all come out but doesn’t give a TOSS [Barclays adverts] anyway.
And there was me thinking that leaders should be inspiring, willing to listen to all sides, come up with the best solution for the country. Ah my nievity pains me.
More seriously we have have good and bad within us (like when you argue but know it is wrong etc) but I for one, as a citizen, expect those who lead me to have mastered themsleves better than regularly falling into bairns n the playground shouting matches. Occassionally it will happen for that is human nature – but regularly – did anyone call social services?
We need better leadership.
That explains with clarity, the Nokia shaped dent between Sugar’s eyes!
Anyway look — onto serious matters .
The South American Met Office has just announced that El Nino which usually comes around Christmas time to warm things up is arriving five months early .
This means Europe will be sweltering in tropical humidity from July through October .
Well… somebody did say it was cold for the time of year recently ….