June 28th, 2012

Full Text of Tory MPs Letter to Cameron

Four more MPs’ names have apparently been added to the letter sent by Tory backbencher John Baron to the Prime Minister this morning. It asks him “to place on the Statute Book before the next General Election a commitment to hold a referendum during the next Parliament on the nature of our relationship with the European Union”. ConservativeHome broke the news of this earlier, but now Guido has got hold of the full text of the letter:

For some reason John Baron is refusing to name who has signed. If you know, you know what to do


62 Comments

  1. 1
    Oink Oink says:

    I would hope Dave listens, but i doubt it.

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    • 4
      Call me Dave with fingers in ears says:

      la la la la la la la la la la la la

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        misterned says:

        “… on the nature of our relationship with the European Union.”

        This is a dishonest Europhile delaying tactic. We do NOT want a meaningless and futile referendum on some vague “relationship” which would in any case require a renegotiation and all the other member-states having to ratify a new treaty granting the UK preferential treatment. There is no way that they would agree to it. It is a complete non-starter!

        We want a clear, unambiguous, boolean choice of IN or OUT of the EU made by a binding referendum of the people, to be decided by a simple majority of the votes cast.

        And ideally we want this by no later than the date of the next general election. Vague promises are utterly worthless.

        Placing such a commitment on the Statute Book before the next General Election to hold a referendum during the next Parliament is also MEANINGLESS.

        No Parliament can bind a successor Parliament.

        It is dishonest, corrupt smoke and mirrors and should be rejected. We know what we want and we will NOT settle for any watering down BS on this.

        The people of Britain.

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    • 5
      DC on DC says:

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    • 10
      Gonk says:

      He’s bound to listen, he’s been “urged”

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    • 11
      Owain Glyndwr says:

      Of course he wont listen, because he knows what the people really want

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  2. 2
    tottenham Chutzpah says:

    are Mr Baron & Co so mentally-challenged that they don’t know the nature of our relationship with the EC?

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  3. 3
    Brown Balls says:

    We were a couple of clueless fuckwits up against City wideboys.

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  4. 6
    Anonymous says:

    What brave men and women of principle they are, to sign a letter but hide their names.

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  5. 7
    QC D says:

    I am instructing my clients to plead the Diamond defence where you just have to give up your overtime payments in order to negate all criminal charges

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  6. 8
    Owain Glyndwr says:

    “to place on the Statute Book before the next General Election ” that you limdem dave will stand down from the tory party

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  7. 12
    Disgruntled Sheffielder says:

    How can you have a referendum on the nature of a thing? Animal vegetable mineral what?

    Have a referendum to re-negotiate our membership after we have got something to make a decision about, maybe but this is a bit stupid to be frank. Sort of daft thing Labour come up with.

    And to say that nobody under 55 has had the opportunity to express a view is mad. They seem to be doing it with regularity in the press and down the pub and in every election both local and national. This is rubbish.

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  8. 13
    Ed "Beggars Belief" Miliband - Leader of the Indignant Student Politics Party says:

    It simply beggars belief that these backward, regressive nasty Tories could want the people to decide.

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  9. 14
    WVM says:

    “The nature of our relationship with the European Union”

    WTF does that mean?

    In or Out and stop f**king about!

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  10. 15
    BREAKING WIND says:

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered his government to put aside billions of dollars in next year’s budget to protect the country’s vulnerable economy in case of a new economic crisis.

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  11. 17
    Raving Loon says:

    Dave will not hold a referendum on EU membership. If that’s what you want, vote UKIP. Stop asking a turkey to vote for Christmas.

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  12. 18
    Westminster Gossip says:

    John Baron MP; another little Englander trying to capture a little limelight on the coattails of the rump of the Tory Party, described by John Major as ‘those bastards’!

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  13. 19
    NeverRed says:

    No.1 It has to be in this parliament
    No.2 It has to be a straight in/out referendum.

    Even on the statute book for next parliament is too late and more wasted £billions.

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  14. 20
    Mrs Entity says:

    I doubt “Cast Iron” Dave will give any such BINDING commitment – he may pay some lip service to placate his backbenchers but when push comes to shove he’ll say Nick won’t let him & he must take into account his coalition partners views.
    If these Tories really want this then join UKIP – Give the people a real opposition & have the courage of your convictions.
    Look what Ang Sang Sui Kui did to keep true to her beliefs – she never faltered & put her peoples futures before her own. So follow what is the right thing to do for the people you’re paid to represent & do what is best for your country.
    Or are you all just writing letters in order to ensure you get voted back in at the next election?
    Your actions will show the people who’s side you’re really on. We will be watching!

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    • 23
      Owain Glyndwr says:

      Ang Sang Sui Kui is a very different person to limpdem dave, dave could not hold a candle to her

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      • 51
        Susie says:

        Dave’s beyond redemption. Hands over another £1.5 BILLION of our money to the EU without a by your leave.

        No. It’s the backbenchers who need to examine their consciences. Are they loyal to their constituents, the party they thought they were voting for, and ultimately their country — or to Dave, themselves and their ‘careers’.

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  15. 22
    phil says:

    Mrs. Bone is probably in the frame.

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  16. 24
    Bob R says:

    No parliament can bind a future parliament.
    – Basic constitutional position.

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    • 61
      Dave Cam says:

      Quite right

      That’s a job for the party whips

      Don’t vote for the public, vote for the party, the filthy rich and the EU

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  17. 25
    Be quiet little people says:

    When will you lot wake up

    The future is with UKIP

    Unless you get rid of that lefty hoodie luvvy Camoron

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  18. 26
    Liarpoliticians says:

    Unless you have a SERIOUSLY short memory, the LibLabCon have all promised EU referendums in some disguise, and they all have reneged on their manifesto promises.

    Why anyone would be fooled into voting for the Conservatives (or Lib or Lab) because they write something in a manifesto is anyone’s guess.

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    • 32
      UKIP.I.AM says:

      And even if it is put into law there is no saying that some conniving Liblabcon tw@ won’t repeal the law when in power.

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  19. 27

    I for one would love to have a yes/no referendum, but only once policians and the media are honest and fair about the benefits and costs of membership. Then we the people could make a fair decision and not one based on emotion. While I would hope it would be stay in, in a democracy if its out then it is out. We do live in a democracy don’t we? I agree though if you really want a referendum, vote UKIP in at the next election. That would do the job. Stewart the pro europe ex tory probably ex lib dem, wondering who the heck to vote for now.

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    • 30
      Mike Hunt says:

      Costs? Massive since B£iar gave away our hard-won (by the blessed St Margaret)
      Benefits? Very few as far as i can see, apart from knowing how to grade a cucumber and being told that working too hard is illegal.

      Don’t care how we get out, I care deeply that we must.

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    • 33
      UKIP.I.AM says:

      Ask the Norwegians and Swiss if you want a more neutral opinion about the EU. They seem to have done tremendously well by staying out. And had they been in the Euro they would be first in line alongside Germany to be asked to bail out all the profligate beggars.

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    • 36
      misterned says:

      “While I would hope it would be stay in, in a democracy if its out then it is out. We do live in a democracy don’t we?”

      No we live in the EU. It is NOT a democracy. More like a corporocratic Oligarchy.

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    • 41
      Disgruntled Sheffielder says:

      A yes/no vote would be OK provided that the real cost and benefits were accurately and dispassionately discussed, which of course they won’t be. Europe will change a lot over the next few years – it will have to. Withdrawal from the EU cannot be done overnight it will take years to extricate ourselves, which if course is something Mr Farrago does not take into account. Neither does he seem to factor in the cost of it. Still if youve got a nice little bit tucked away in a Manx bank account you are highly unlikely to worry are you

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      • 42

        I think I worry too much about the quality of life of people in this country. And I am flat broke.

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        • 45
          Disgruntled Sheffielder says:

          I think you probably do, and while not flat broke, have been there – not very nice is it?

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      • 48
        Anonymous says:

        It can be done overnight. We simply say “On the umpteenth of octember, we will repeal the 1972 Act”

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        • 52
          Disgruntled Sheffielder says:

          You really are thick. There are hundreds if not thousands of contracts and agreements between us and other EU states. To avoid any cost to UK we would have to plan things carefully. So no cloth ears we could not do it overnight

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          • Susie says:

            What states? They’re not going to exist any more. They’re to become part of a new country called Europe.

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      • 53
        Susie says:

        Simply repeal the 1972 act and we’re out.

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      • 62
        John Smith says:

        What an ignorant post

        We are throwing away millions every year on a dictatorship. Leaving is far cheaper

        But party loyalty is what matters right

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  20. 28
    Mike Hunt says:

    I’d sign, I hope (given his views) my MP will too.

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  21. 29
    wonkotsane says:

    Why the next parliament and not this one like Cameron promised with his “cast iron guarantee”? Let me think … “Don’t vote for UKIP in the next election, we’ll give you an EU referendum if you vote for us, scouts honour, we won’t break the promise this time, honest”.

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  22. 39
    Widescreen2010 says:

    Ah yes, this sort of thing normally energises the swivel-eyed nutters.
    Out in force, I see.

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  23. 43
    Out of Europe says:

    The Eurozone is a mess. It would not surprise me if Germany started to make noises about leaving the Eurozone. Anything is possible.

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  24. 46
    Jimmy says:

    General Election 2010:

    Votes cast for anti EU parties: 5%
    Votes cast for pro EU parties: 95%

    Was there anything else?

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  25. 47
    Lord out, UKIP in - Woking says:

    Jonathan Lord (Woking, etc.) wouldn’t have – he’s a coward and will be looking for new employment at the next general election . . . :-)

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  26. 59
    Anon Voter says:

    CMD the One Term Tory Toff Liar won’t condescend to allow a EU vote by the UK’s great unwashed unless he’s is a 110% certain the result will be YES & of the same percentage result.

    Its what is laughingly called EU Democracy……….as dictated by the Brussels Mafia to CMD

    All Vote “U.K.I.P” & never allow the ConsLieLaborLibDems bum boys alliance any where near the levers of power again………..

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  27. 60
    lastofthesummervintage says:

    Nice to see UKIP are getting the Tory left rattled
    VOTE UKIP

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