June 26th, 2012

Osborne Fuel-Turn Catches Greening By Surprise


Justine Greening to the Sunday Telegraph:

“The taxes that we get in fund the public services that we all rely on. Surely it’s better to challenge the petrol retailers to pass on reductions to motorists and actually I think that’s probably the most important thing to do.”

Treasury Twitter feed on Tuesday:

“Chancellor announces that August fuel duty rise delayed until January 2013 to help with cost of living.”

Sure that went down well in the Department of Transport. Given that Balls was on the radio calling for the u-turn this morning, Guido reckons he was tipped that it was coming…


105 Comments

  1. 1
    Oh says:

    Tax is theft!

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    • 5
      Eco Goron says:

      But they are going to raise road tax. Suddenly just about every car on the road has become a “green car” and attracts £0, £25 or £30 yearly road tax which is obviously not sustainable

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    • 6
      Rat's arse says:

      Couldn’t agree more “oh no”, and us ‘lesser mortals’ have been robbed blind for YEARS, whereas the likes of Livingscum & other parasites get away with it.

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    • 28
      Fish says:

      Tip-offs are theft

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  2. 2
    Steve Miliband says:

    She couldn’t say ‘wait until tuesday, there might be an announcement if you know what I mean’

    Anyway it’s the producers/wholesalers who cream it in, not the retailers.

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    • 21

      Agreed. Greening ‘s taken a hit for the team. The decision was a no-brainer anyway, and we’ve seen yet another example of Labour hypocrisy in that Gordon had pencilled-in the rise 2 years ago, but Balls was opposing his own party’s policy. Labour – Facepalming is part of their DNA.

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  3. 3
    Marmite says:

    Balls just being interviewed by the Biased Broadcasting. He must have ran from the chamber to where the “reporter” was waiting for him.

    BBC reporter… “so Mr Balls, the Government has done another u-turn and froze petrol tax as you suggested”!

    I honestly don’t know how the BBC get away with it.

    Can nothing be done about this pestilence that is the BBC?

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    • 12
      Solly says:

      I think that another commenter believes that a “daisy-cutter” would be of assistance.
      :)

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    • 13
      Raving Loon says:

      Yes, the govt could end the licence fee, but they won’t, so there.

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    • 14
      Lord Reith says:

      Yes , hang draw quarter and keel haul them .

      And if that dosen,t work tell Humphries , Paxo, Pesto and Co there is no more State funding and they will have to accept adverts.

      That should induce a few cardiac arrests and clear the way for bright open intelligent , rational level headed young things …… like Penny Laurie and that stunted cad called Owen (that’s his first name — I’ve quite forgotten his surname thank God !!– eventually I might — please Heaven — have the same fit of amnesia for Laurie ) . .

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      • 17
        Old Tory Bigot says:

        It’s JONES. Got that? JONES

        The best part of him ran down his mother’s leg but the BBC are enthralled by the ignorant little squit.

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    • 19
      Mornington Crescent says:

      Compare and contrast the coverage:

      Sky:

      http://news.sky.com/story/952910/fuel-duty-tax-frozen-for-the-year

      Beeboids:

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18588855

      Glad I don’t have a TV, still less the licence to fund those bastards.

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  4. 4
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    When are these so called Conservatives going to start acting like Conservatives?

    Nothing has really changed since Brown really.

    I’m just waiting for ID cards to be put on the table again.

    Bastards.

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    • 7
      Raving Loon says:

      Never mind ID cards, what about monitoring all emails, internet traffic and phone calls by the new British Stasi? And they don’t have to answer to FOI requests!

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      • 10
        Old Tory Bigot says:

        Yes indeed. The process of turning the UK into Honecker’s continues apace.

        It’s the unacountable mandarins and spooks that set the agenda now. They are out of control and determined to get their way. They want a docile, controlled, monitored populace – no threat to the shadowy establishment and their cushy lives.

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        • 11
          Old Tory Bigot says:

          Honecker’s GDR – that is

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          • Roscoe Rules says:

            I heard recently that people would be more likely to change bank accounts than vote for a different party..or was it divorce?
            Anyway,the LibLabCons know this and that is why we get the same shit in government.

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          • Old Tory Bigot says:

            As the old saw goes: –

            “it doesn’t matter who you vote for, the government always get in”

            Cameron doesn’t call the shots and neither would Ed if he was PM.

            There are there to take orders from ‘senior civil servants’.

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          • Corporatist, Guided Democracy, is what it's called says:

            Guided democracy, also called managed democracy, is a term for a democratic government with increased autocracy.

            Governments are legitimated by elections that, while free and fair, are used by the government to continue their same policies and goals.

            Or, in other words, the government has learned to control elections so that the people can exercise all their rights without truly changing public policy.

            While following basic democratic principles there can be minor deviations towards authoritarianism.

            Under managed democracy, the electorate is prevented from having a significant impact on policies adopted by the state through the continuous employment of public relations techniques.

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        • 18
          Raving Loon says:

          All I want is a fiscally conservative government, that doesn’t think 1984 is an instruction manual, believes in sound money and national sovereignty, and doesn’t think we should be the policeman of the world. Is that too much to ask?

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          • Old Tory Bigot says:

            You’re asking for the moon old chap.

            Unless another Thatcher pops up from nowhere then we’re doomed to continue on the path to the utter destruction of the United Kingdom.

            Farage is the nearest think we’ve got but I have my doubts about him.

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          • UKIP.I.AM says:

            What people still can’t seem to get through their noggins is that the big decisions now are not taken in Westminster but by some unknown judge or bureaucrat in some socialist paradise in some obscure part of Europe.

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    • 35
      life's a beach / beech says:

      Cameron and George keeping their powder dry?
      When you consider how dumb the typical Labour voter is with many Conservative supporters coming a close second then silence is golden. Both you and they have short memories and making any fuss today would be forgotten tomorrow.
      Labour’s silent approach too to the ‘missing years’ and big mouthing now by them and UKIP only plays into their hands.
      It was never going to be all roses and moonshine. Ruined economy, Lib Dem Coalition. Tough luck. Bite the bullet.
      Things will improve and all Labour’s skeletons in the cupboard from previous failings will become the inevitable ammunition at hand for pre 2015/16 election strategy.
      Dave and Co will plod on and you will all moan as usual till even you Tory dummies too have to be reminded of what should never be allowed to happen again.
      UKIP- Forget it. Support Scottish Independence- Let Labour’s captive voters go!

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      • 45
        Old Tory Bigot says:

        What the fuck are you on about?

        Bit early to be on the sauce isn’t it?

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      • 92
        UKIP.I.AM says:

        Another one who doesn’t understand that all the big decisions are out of the hands of OUR politicians. It doesn’t matter a toss whether Tories or Labour are in power. When Tories are in power they scream for cuts in taxes. When Labour are in power they scream for cuts in taxes. When are they going to wake up to the big con?

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  5. 8
    Giacomo Casa..blanks says:

    The look on the Green One’s face suggests her weekly bit of conjugal binky bonky was not a rip roaring success

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  6. 9
    Lord Timon says:

    Being Transport minister must be extremely boring.

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    • 19
      Raving Loon says:

      Lib Dem MP under fire for passing the buck to his ex-Mrs and generally being a lying little Huhne.

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      • 27
        Owain Glyndwr says:

        what the phuck, the huhne tweeting, does the phuck wit realise that in his position it would be best to hide in some hole and hope no one will notice him.

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    • 24
      Roscoe Rules says:

      From saving the world to saving Libraries and maybe soon having to save his ass from Mr Big whose in with the warders.

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    • 29
      Fish says:

      What a pointless post

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    • 41
      Public Expense says:

      Time to move with the times huhne. Public libraries are as much use as public phone boxes these days. A place for dossers to piss and sleep in

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  8. 23
    fruitcake says:

    Balls and co seem to be chasing the populist vote/angle. Of course anything that’ll get them votes will be promised or endorsed….oh and then quickly ignored once they have the power back.

    It’s cynical but hey, that’s the problem with the English parliament.

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  9. 25
    Pissed Off Ex-Tory says:

    The deficit increased in May. What are you going to CUT to compensate for this u-turn on fuek duty — or are you just going to let the deficit rise yet again — classic fxxking socialist economic policy.
    Pretty boy George and Dave the Weak — what a pair of failures

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  10. 30
    David Cameron Is A Cunt says:

    Greening is out of her depth at Transport and is on the wrong side on most of the important decisions being made about our future transport needs and infrastructure.

    In the end almost all of the money that we pay for a litre of fuel is tax and it is that excessive and unjustifiable burden that needs addressing, not the tiny profit margin that the fuel retailers get to keep.

    Once again this greedy and dishonest government is trying to shift the blame for their own failure onto somebody else.

    God they are crap!!

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    • 70
      just saying says:

      Thank God Labour aren’t in power.

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    • 78
      Ex-Tory says:

      Yes, fuel retailers make very little on the fuel. A friend who runs several fuel stations says he makes a loss on the fuel, but turns over £1m+/yr on the shop. Greening is another know-nothing fuckwit stooge for the political elite.

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      • 103
        Conrad says:

        Fuel retailers are just unpaid tax collectors for the government and convenient scapegoats whenever we serfs become restive at the level of fuel tax er the entirely unjustified profits made by the fuel companies I meant to say.

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    • 93
      UKIP.I.AM says:

      Actually the tax and price of petrol is almost identical to what it is in France and Germany. What a coincidence!

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  11. 32
    Owain Glyndwr says:

    See chucka yourmoney is making a right cnut of himself with his latest wheeze, still no publicity is bad publicity mutterings been around for months that he trying for the millitwats job. Still it would be amusing to have our own o’bummer in the HoC

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  12. 33
    Penfold says:

    Bet Greening didn’t see that yorker coming her way…………..

    Gideon garners a few brownie points.

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  13. 36
    Oh says:

    http://t.co/1tUJNrRT

    The Unions are happy.

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  14. 38
    Cameron is a Cunt says:

    David Cameron, in a further announcement today, has said that now the culling of disabled people has begun he is keen to develop this plan into other areas. This will include the unemployed, the middle class elderley who always moan at him, anybody who needs anything replacing on the NHS, the lazy, feckless tax avoiders like Jimmy Carr and anybody else he deems suitable for such action. He states this is in the national interest and will help bring down the defecit to make Britain great again.

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    • 40
      Nom Dom Nom says:

      All while increasing the tax burden

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      • 65
        Association of Russian Pillaging Ologarchs and their bent solicitors says:

        We love all the increases in tax to pay for the infrastructure we use

        But we will never pay for it

        Fuck you all and wait for our libel actions against you

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    • 42
      taxplayer says:

      David might be a c*nt, but he’s my type of c*nt.

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  15. 48
    Capo di tutti capi Murdoch says:

    Guido

    As you will have seen, I am going to “spin off” my newspapers

    I pumped tyhem for all they were worth using the means that everyone knows, now

    Of course now that I have been found out, I will have to get rid of them…lousy investments, you know

    Before the police catch up with me (I am no longer in the jurisdiction of the UK, you know)

    Fuck you all and ROFL

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  16. 49

    On my visit back to the UK last month, I paid (or just noted) the following prices for diesel:

    UK              £1.44
    France          £1.32
    Luxembourg      £1.02
    Germany         £1.32
    Austria         £1.12
    Slovenia        £1.15
    Croatia         £1.10
    

    One sometimes suffers for being on an island.

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    • 53
      Phil the Greek says:

      An island ?

      One and a half islands if you please

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    • 66
      SAS NOT !!! says:

      errrrr DONT FORGET.

      UK May 2010…. £1.09 a Litre. 32% rise since May 2010.

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    • 82
      Anonymous says:

      Maybe, just maybe, their respective govts don’t gouge their motorists with fuel duty and taxes to the same extent that ours do.

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      • 84

        Obviously.

        But these sorts of differentials have sustained for four decades, in my first-hand experience, so I do not see that any political capital can be made out of it – other than all MPs of any persuasion are dedicated to fucking our lives up instead of delivering value for money services which cannot be done better by other means.

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      • 95
        UKIP.I.AM says:

        Of course they could be wrong but according to the BBC data we are not much different to France, Germany and the Netherlands. I probably expect they are much closer to the mark (or Euro) than someone with anecdotal evidence or idle guesswork.

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18588855

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        • 101

          Why, in order to make an argument, does the BBC choose those nations where the difference is less (still lower, mind!) than a broader range of countries producing a wider disparity?

          My evidence above was collected in a 24 hour period. I have travelled this route over 30 years, sometimes five times a year, and have had an opportunity to spot the occasional trend that is thrown up.

          But of course, we can all trust the BBC as it is totally impartial. Facts are pesky things, though.

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  17. 52
    CYNICAL OLD MAN says:

    High time Gideon cleared the Treasury of the planted Labour moles. Might make a start with all those employed since May 1997. It’s probably some of Brown’s intake who suggested the Pasty Tax, Charity Tax and all the other daft ideas which have turned to ratshit after their announcements.

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  18. 56
    Lord Scalded Bollock says:

    I reckon Danny Aleaxander is having a wank in this thread’s picture !

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  19. 57
    Gideon the new Preservative says:

    Please cover my tits

    The public spending boom continues

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/apr/25/uk-public-spending-1963

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  20. 60
    Caligula and his Hoss says:

    I told you so

    The UK is ungovernable

    Wait until the while thing explodes I say (like 1976)

    I know what I am talking about

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  21. 61
    Lord Scalded Bollock says:

    Is @charlesarthur for real ?

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  22. 67
    SAS NOT !!! says:

    “”””Given that Balls was on the radio calling for the u-turn this morning, Guido reckons he was tipped that it was coming…””””

    Well Well Well… Guido got most of his threads from tip offs during Gordons tenure….boots on the other foot now Guido !!!!!!

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  23. 73
    Primate of Primates says:

    “Racism is ‘hardwired’ into the human brain – and people can be prejudiced without knowing it
    Brain scans have proved that interactions with people of other ethnic backgrounds set off reactions that may be completely unknown to our conscious selves, say New York researchers.” Mail.

    It’s been known for 20 years that most primates are racist. Nothing new. But maybe a get-out-of-jail-card.

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  24. 81
    Shambling says:

    “Do my tits look big in this?”

    Oh – sorry I thought this was the caption competition.

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  25. 86
    Infomatik says:

    UK PUBLIC SPENDING

    Year £bn % of GDP

    1963-64 12.0 38.5 Wilson

    1964-65 13.0 38.1 do

    1965-66 14.5 39.6

    1966-67 16.0 41.4

    1967-68 18.3 44.6

    1968-69 19.3 43.4

    1969-70 20.3 42.5

    1970-71 22.7 42.7 Heath

    1971-72 25.2 42.6 do

    1972-73 28.3 41.9

    1973-74 33.4 44.4 Wilson

    1974-75 43.7 48.6 do

    1975-76 55.7 49.7

    1976-77 63.6 48.6 Callaghan

    1977-78 69.5 45.6 do

    1978-79 78.6 45.1

    1979-80 93.6 44.6 Thatcher

    1980-81 112.5 47.0 do

    1981-82 125.6 47.7

    1982-83 138.3 48.1

    1983-84 149.7 47.8

    1984-85 159.6 47.4

    1985-86 166.1 44.9

    1986-87 172.0 43.4

    1987-88 183.1 41.5

    1988-89 190.4 38.8

    1989-90 209.7 39.1

    1990-91 224.4 38.9 Major

    1991-92 251.1 41.3 do

    1992-93 271.5 43.3

    1993-94 283.7 42.7

    1994-95 296.4 42.1

    1995-96 309.5 41.6

    1996-97 315.3 39.8

    1997-98 321.9 38.2 Blair

    1998-99 330.9 37.2 do

    1999-00 343.1 36.3

    2000-01 364.3 36.8

    2001-02 389.3 37.7

    2002-03 421.1 38.6

    2003-04 455.5 39.4

    2004-05 492.4 40.5

    2005-06 524.0 41.2

    2006-07 549.8 40.8

    2007-08 583.1 41.0 Brown

    2008-09 629.8 44.0 do

    2009-10 670.1 47.7

    2010-11 687.9 46.7 Cameron

    2011-12 687.6 44.5 do

    2012-13 683.4 43.4

    2013-14 720 43.6

    2014-15 733.5 42.2

    2015-16 744 40.5 ???

    2016-17 756.3 39

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  26. 102
    michael Foy says:

    Another one not in the loop is Chloe Smith from Osborne’s own Treasury team. Saw her skewered on both Channel 4 News and then tonight by Paxman on Newsnight. She makes even the proverbial rabbit caught in car headlight’s look good. Many Conservative M.P.s. were astonished at her instant promotion and she has quickly built up a formidable reputation as an absolutely useless media performer. But in her vacuousness and child-like devotion she clearly fits the Cameron-Osborne bill. Her completely inarticulate ways are clearly a minor consideration in Cameron’s desire to show just how much he has ‘modernised’ the Conservative party. I cringe when I see people like John Redwood – who has forgotten more than Chloe Smith ever knew – marginalised. Can’t see the Conservative party ever winning a majority under Cameron.

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