June 18th, 2012

Labour’s Dictator Double Standards

Labour cheerleaders have been queuing up to lay into Tory MP Andrew Rosindell over his comments about General Pinochet.  As we celebrate the thirtieth anniversary of our victory in the Falklands they choose to attack the Chilean leader who was our only ally in in the region during that conflict thousands of miles away. Pinochet gave crucial support, allowing British Special Forces to enter his country and British long range radar to be based in Chile saving the lives of British pilots and seamen. He also provided vital intelligence to Britain in the fight against the Argentinian junta.  Political Scrapbook ran a story on Friday and today Ed jumped on the bandwagon:

Rent-a-Gob Karl Turner has gone even further:

“It’s astonishing that a MP should praise a military dictator who overthrew an elected government and was responsible for the murder, torture and arbitrary imprisonment of thousands of people.”

That sounds familiar…

Guido is sure Labour types would want to be completely consistent on the issue and condemn all dictators equally.

Odd then that 65 Labour MPs – including usual suspects Diane Abbott, Jeremy Corbyn and Paul Flynn – signed a motion praising the Cuban military dictator Fidel Castro in 2008. They paid tribute to Castro’s “achievements” and “the esteem in which he is held by the people of Latin America”. Will Ed condemn their words?


  1. 1
    Init says:

    And of course Labour hugged Gaddaffi!!!

  2. 2
    annette curton says:

    He never.

  3. 3
    Ed Muppetbrain says:

    Will Ed condemn their words?

    “I might, but first I have to ask my handlers what I will say”

  4. 4
    Elgin's lost his Marbles says:

    Pinochet acted after the Chilean Congress declared Allende’s presidency illegal. Allende appointed Pinochet as chief of the General Staff.

    Allende was putting Chile on the ‘road to Socialism’ and Pinochet stopped him, it is clear that lefties hate Pinochet not for what he did, so much as what he prevented, a Red Terror like Castro’s in Cuba, where Che Guevara executed teenage boys and so on.

    I often buy Chilean or New Zealand wine as both were good friends during the events of 1982, and the wine is good stuff.

  5. 5
    annette curton says:

    OMG, on second looks they are having a smooch on the dance floor, beyond the call of duty?.

  6. 6
    Gary, W2 says:

    Thank you Guido.

    We value your comments and insights; if only the Tories had half the fire in their bellies that you have!

  7. 7
    Santi says:

    PSbook comes out against something so Guido comes out for it. Westminster is shocked…

  8. 8
    Durr... says:

    There’s an idea! where can I hide this four foot length of rusty metal? A’la Gadaffi – up B£iars arse!

  9. 9
    Aunty Matter says:

    The U.N.’s Committee Against Torture hammered Cuba on Friday for a lengthy string of human rights abuses and repeatedly complained the island had provided few or none of the details about specific allegations of abuses that it had requested.

    Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/02/2828219/un-panel-blasts-cuba-on-human.html#storylink=cpy

  10. 10
    jgm2 says:

    If Labour didn’t like Pinochet then why did they let him go when they had him in their grasp. Jack Straw bottled the opportunity.

    Labour gobshites can’t blame the T*ries for that one. Just more show-boating from the wicked and malicious Labour party.

  11. 11
    Popeye says:

    Don’t overlook Galtieri!

  12. 12
    Shame! Shame! says:

    And Mubarak?

    Labour and Mubarak’s NDP were sister parties until 2011.

    Why does Cameron not shout this from the rooftops?!?!


  13. 13
    Henry Brubaker says:

    Ah, Guido but you are forgetting one thing. The leftists have played their trump card: They have invoked Thatcher.

    In the leftist world all a ‘progressive’ need do at any juncture to claim victory in argument is to invoke Thatcher and lay whatever blame is necessary at her feet.

    Often its a last desperate get out when the leftist argument has been destroyed with evidence, reason, common sense and has been shown to fall foul of even the most basic laws of physics.

    Everything is or was ‘Thatcher fault’. To the deluded left wing mind this works.

    Meanwhile in the realty based community we see it for the hypocritical horse shite it truly is.

  14. 14
    annette curton says:

  15. 15
    Dick the Butcher says:

    Socialists are always right! Stalin, Mao, Pol-pot, Castro, Kim-il-fatboy our beloved leader – all Thatcherite paper tigers.

  16. 16
    Elgin's lost his Marbles says:

    Because Brother Socialists don’t rat on others (apart from Stalin, Trotsky, Mao, Hoxha etc.) Cameron is hoping to join up with either Labour or Mubarak (to judge by his policies anyway).

  17. 17
    jgm2 says:

    Dangerous game invoking Fatcher and the 30-year Falklands anniversary.

    It wos Fatcher wot won it and restored British pride after two decades of ‘sick man of Europe’, managed decline, 25% inflation, three-day-week, one-out-all-out union and Labour fuckwittery.

  18. 18
    Tuscan Tony says:

    Socialism and its inconsistencies and hypocrisy is a creed that really doesn’t stand up to close impartial examination; then and again that hardly matters as its target audience are those plink-a-plonk types for whom life has proved too complex.

  19. 19
    Elgin's lost his Marbles says:

    Indeed, it could be Godwin’s second law. The first person to blame Thatcher has lost the plot.

  20. 20
    Diane Fatbutt says:

    Up the revolution sisters!

  21. 21
    Cuddly Tyrant says:

    It is still a bit of a bummer you have to rely on cuddly tyrants for support. But, hey ho that is life. It looks like cuddly tyrants days are numbered thanks to the Arab Spring, Summer, Autumn and Winter protests.
    The Argentinians are itching for another conflict. They smell oil.

  22. 22
    Steve Miliband says:

    Vines in Chile are original ones imported from France mid 19th century. The phylloxera epidemic wiped out European vines but not American ones, so effectively Chilean grapes are older/better than French grapes

  23. 23
    M says:

    Dictators are very much like tobacco ,
    Every one has a particular brand they prefer to smoke but the chances are it’ll end up killing you in the end

  24. 24
    Toenay Blawr arse kisser for the Tyrants says:

    I miss kissing Gadafti’s arse.

  25. 25
    jgm2 says:

    A double-edged sword. While the bedwetters loathe Fatcher for defeating the miners and ensuring uninterrupted electricity for a generation the more middle-ground voters are fucking delighted not to be freezing to death every winter because Arthur Sc*ar*g*ills million highly paid public sector workers fancy a pay rise.

    For younger readers – you know how Bob Crow and the bus dr*iv*ers are threatening to hold the UK to ransom during the showcase event of the next 50 years unless they get more money. And for no other reason than they know they have you over a barrel? That’s what the miners were like in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s.

    Is it winter again? Good-ho. Time for a pay-rise I think lads. All in favour say ‘I’. All against prepare to be rounded up and battered senseless by union thugs.

    Reminding those folk, the middle ground, about Fatcher only makes ‘em more likely to vote T*ry.

  26. 26
    A Typical Guardianista Defending Those 65 Labour MP's says:

    “Foolish consistency is the hob-goblin of small minds,” which phrase we use to mean that consistency itself is foolish and small-minded. We use this canard because Guido Fawkes and his ilk seem to desire some consistency here, and as we all know, they are as foolish and small-minded as can be. We have read Emerson and know that the saying actually refers to holding superseded beliefs in the light of subsequent information, merely to avoid looking inconsistent, but succeeding only in looking foolish thereby. But we know you haven’t read it, and we look to impress you with our pseudo-intellectuality.

  27. 27
    jgm2 says:

    That’ll be aviation fuel. Followed by the sound of rockets destroying their Air Force.


  28. 28
    Guinness, Bangalore, India says:

    We, too, thank you Guido.

    We value your consumption and custom; if only the Tories had half the stout in their bellies that you have!

  29. 29
    Sandra says:

    And Lord Kinnockio was / is President of some international socialist league that had many, many dubious dictators on its books as members – Mubarak of Egypt for one.

    Will Ed condemn him?

    Bloody hypocrits – and no doubt weakling Dave will fold faster than Superman on laundry day. I feel sorry for Tory MPs – they have a leader who in his efforts to detoxify the “brand” will sacrifice every single one of them if Labour demanded it.

  30. 30
    Penfold says:

    “It’s astonishing that a MP should praise a military dictator who overthrew an elected government and was responsible for the murder, torture and arbitrary imprisonment of thousands of people.”

    And of course its all right to praise Allende even though he was expropriating private assets, importing secret policemen from the USSR, setting in motion the disenfranchisement of the middle and upper classes and declaring revolution on all those people who did not support him.

    The left, re-writing history all around you, to match thier idealism and viewpoint.

    Red Ed by his craven actions has shown himself to be easily led and in the thrall of the extremists.

  31. 31
    Gary Elsby Stoke says:

    In the main picture, it is not obvious which one is the dictator.
    Could you please say which is which?

  32. 32
    annette curton says:

    Is the Olympic Torch environmentally friendly?.

  33. 33
    Christ on a Bike says:



    To the list of adorable dictators and psychos lauded by Labour MPs and scumbag lefties in general, over the years.

  34. 34
    Trahison des Clercs says:

    Both of my sons-in-law drive buses in N.London;both want to work; both voted against strike, but they have been intimidated by the union thugs. Do we need an Iron Dave? I wish!

  35. 35
    smoggie says:

    That’ll be President Kirchner’s moisturiser.

  36. 36
    nellnewman says:

    Hmmm didn’t I see a photo somewhere a while ago of gaddafi with his very good friend bliar?

  37. 37
    Typical Socialist says:

    It’ll work this time. It really, really will. Cross my heart and hope to die.

  38. 38
    Genevieve says:

    Is your deliberate misspelling of ‘hypocrites’ a feeble attempt to throw us off the scent, SC Sandra?

  39. 39
    Henry Brubaker says:


    Thats you sorted, who is next?

  40. 40
    Thatcher would not have been able to balance the books without Scottish Oil. She admitted it to be this to be the case says:

    Bloody tyrants. They give you a bad name.

  41. 41
    smoggie says:

    The one in the Dictator’s outfit.

  42. 42
    Trahison des Clercs says:

    wtf? modbot falls upon my 4.03 post. what I do?

  43. 43
    jgm2 says:

    It’ll be President Kirchner’s napalm if they get too uppity.

    Gobby fuckers. Still, when you destroy your country’s economy, impose currency restrictions and the place is still going down the shitter, I suppose a good war might take folk’s mind off things.

  44. 44
    repeated idea says:

    Germany should leave the Euro

  45. 45
    Anthony Wedgwood Benn, 1st Viscount Stansgate says:

    Pinochet gave more support in ’82 than I did, and I’m a Labour hero.

  46. 46
    Thatcher would not have been able to balance the books without Scottish Oil. She admitted it this to be the case says:


  47. 47
    Jimmy says:

    And their double standards are worse than yours because….?

  48. 48
    Mr Gove AKA Pob says:

    There’s a good one of Order Order favourite Nick_Griffin standing in front of a poster of Gadaffi when he went on a fully paid up trip to Libya on a mission to beg him for money (whilst the Libyans were at the same time supplying the I..R..A with weapons)

  49. 49
    Macky's son says:

    Guinness is for poofs and retards.

  50. 50
    Trahison des Clercs says:

    Buenos Explosiones I hope.

  51. 51
    jgm2 says:

    Nor could she have defeated the miners without cheap supplies of coal from them commies in Poland and cheap oil from Scotland.

    Who said that when the time came to hang ‘em the capitalists would sell you the rope?

    Turns out that when the time came to hang the unions out to dry it was the commies who were lining up to sell the rope.

  52. 52
    smoggie says:

    “Scottish” oil was used to placate and subsidise the English miners by Callaghan. They took the stuff from the sea and poured the lot down the pits.

  53. 53
    But Michael Foot wouldn't have had any money to drill for the stuff says:


  54. 54
    Jimmy says:

    Incidentally, the Cuban regime has no better friend in the House these days than the Foreign Sec,

    Funny how these things work out.

  55. 55
    jgm2 says:

    I thought Gaddafi was supplying both sides. Divide and conquer. You know what these whities are like.

  56. 56
    Kenneth Moron says:

    Just reading your moniker gives me a serious boner.

  57. 57
    Scouse Tory says:

    Right, just don’t try being a Christian, a woman, gay or a member of the wrong sect or political party. The Arab Spring (as loved by the BBC/Guardian axis) is the rise of murderous mob rule.

  58. 58
    Thatcher would not have been able to balance the books without Scottish Oil. She admitted it this to be the case says:

    Regardless of politics, we are all kissing China’s arse despite horrendous human rights abuses in Tibet. Hmmm?

  59. 59
    Tube_thumper says:

    If Maggie said he was ok thats good enough for me. Rubbermouth should try to do something useful instead of silly college stye “dogs steals sausages” politics

    As for guido crowing about the Sunday Star column. What a fucking hypocite I bet you wouldnt even wipe your arse on that rag before theyt decided to pay you for your so called column. Its almost as credible as the little slags with their tits out in the Sun making their opinions known

  60. 60
    Would that be the Scottish Oil belonging to the UK as Scotland is/was part of the UK. says:

    I thought a Social List was a calendar of events?

  61. 61
    Fish says:

    I think that they also incuded Mugabe in their fraternal alliance

  62. 62
    Widescreen2010 says:

    Good point.
    Let’s invade Greece!

  63. 63
    jgm2 says:

    It was used to free a million miners from their repetitive, dangerous, long-term-health-risk troglodyte existence. Thanks to Fatcher life expectancy has soared in these ex-mining communities.

    I don’t think there is a single miner to be found who longs to go back underground. I thought that secretly they’re all fucking delighted to have broken away from such an awful job. Now, if only they could make the next mental leap and move away from the dead-end villages where fate and history washed ‘em up then there’d be even less Labour constituencies.

  64. 64
    keredybretsa says:

    Well it’s ‘don’t do what we do…do what we say’ way of leftie life, innit knowwhaimean.
    All Dictators are dodgy geezers…but if he does your country a favour…doesn’t make him any less dodgy. Just friendly dodgy.

  65. 65
    *reads the manual* says:

    Pull his plug out.

  66. 66
    Jen The Blue says:

    Socialists are hypocrites! Nothing new or earth shattering there.

  67. 67
    jgm2 says:

    It is the rise of democratically elected Muslim Brotherhood types. So now the West will have to deal with folk every bit as backward as the Saudis but with the knowledge that it was they (the west) who encouraged such medieval madness in the first place.

  68. 68
    Elgin's lost his Marbles says:

    Take a look at the Chilean Armed Forces, would you really want to mess with them? Argentina planned to in 1976 (Operacion Soberania), and 1982. Chile helped us in 1982, saving British and probably Chilean and Argentinian lives by ensuring Argentina lost the taste for war for a while.

  69. 69
    Oh! Sud de Nîmes says:

    You’s still missing an E, dear. Whasup?

  70. 70
    Churchill, on Stalin says:

    ‘If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference to the Devil in the House of Commons’

  71. 71
    Elgin's lost his Marbles says:

    Good point Steve, you’re an Angel! and Ed’s a Centerfold.

  72. 72
    jgm2 says:

    French wine is over-hyped, over-pr*iced and over here.

    I make a point of buying anything but French wine. And I quite like the French and France.

  73. 73
    Mornington Crescent says:

    Not only does Militwit condemn Pinochet re Falklands but I haven’t heard him condemning Christina de Kirchner re Falklands – not that I listen to anything he says, TBH.

    Perhaps the useless little shit might like to enlighten us on his policy on the Falklands; in fact, he might like to enlighten us on his policy on anything.

  74. 74
    General I. Zay-Shong says:

    Just giving this moniker a quick spin around the block.

  75. 75
    Owain Glyndwr says:

    If I have said it once I have said it a dozen times, being a milliband is no job for a grown man

  76. 76
    Gary Elsby Stoke says:

    Nope, still not clear.

  77. 77
    Jimmy the Dhimmi says:

    ….you can’t trust Liebour’s nuBmbers.

  78. 78
    Little ol' wine drinker me says:

    So do I – except when I am estaminating over there.

  79. 79
    Little ol' wine drinker me says:

    They did that?? Not enough lefties on the committee then.

  80. 80

    The millionaire champagne sociopaths in the Shadow Cabinet (who were mostly poor as church mice on entering Parliament) and their lap dogs will always say do as we say, not as we do

    Power to the people (that is our people)

  81. 81
    Little ol' wine drinker me says:

    … and Gibraltar while he is at it.

  82. 82
    Little ol' wine drinker me says:

    And Assad is heartily continuing the traditional dictatorial ways in Syria too.

  83. 83
    Elgin's lost his Marbles says:

    Assad is what they call ‘a good Socialist’.

  84. 84
    Owain Glyndwr says:

    Was working down teirra del fuego for a couple of years after the contract finished went round the corner to drill in chilean waters, they do not like the argies no one had a good word for them, not to be trusted was the most common sentiment

  85. 85
    News in Briefs says:

    Guido 45, (38-52-52) says ‘its a dream come true’ to model in our newspaper, now buy The Star, you slags.

  86. 86
    Little ol' wine drinker me says:

    You must find an alternative verb for ‘making vehicles move’ then muddybot won’t get you. Hope that helps.

  87. 87
    Little ol' wine drinker me says:

    I blame surely williams for that.

  88. 88
    Little ol' wine drinker me says:

    Hasn’t Merky already done that?

  89. 89
    Little ol' wine drinker me says:

    ‘Democratically elected’ does not quite fit the bill when a dozen or so other candidates were banned from standing, leaving the populace with two candidates, neither of whom were wanted by the majority of Gyppos.

  90. 90
    ?? says:

    Didn’t Fidel also overthrow an elected government?

  91. 91
    ?? says:

    Is that because he is fond of cigars?

  92. 92
    Imaginary 28 year-old, quite tasty says:

    lol . Is that what they call barrel-shaped?

  93. 93

    They’re just double standards, Jimmy. BTW, admitting socialists have double standards will probably get you drummed out of the Young Socialists.

  94. 94
    Elgin's lost his Marbles says:

    Shame that Thatcher always increased spending, without fail, year-on-year. Can we blame the Jocks’ oil?

  95. 95

    When they’ve got all the rare earths needed to make windmills, it’s hardly surprising that hug-a-husky, RedEd and the Man Who Nearly Isn’t are engaged in a conspiracy of Silence, is it? Mrs. Clegg has written a learned tome justifying China’s extinction of the Tibetan people. All kept very quiet by the MSM and Amnesty International.

  96. 96

    Coffee over Keyboard moment. Thanks.

  97. 97
    john in cheshire says:

    General Pinochet is a hero of mine too. To his credit he disinfested Chile of socialists and no one can be bad who does that. The fact that you can never rid a country of these vermin means that periodically the rat catcher has to be brought in again. I’d say he’s long overdue in our own country.

  98. 98
    taC eht abbaJ says:

    Allende and the socialist mess he created in Chile was a perfect example of what would have happened in this country should Tony Benn, and the loony left of that era, have ever got their hands on power in this country…

  99. 99
    Tom says:

    I was at university with Karl Turner – he went to Hull as a mature student from 2001.

    I remember him once walking around the campus guessing out loud the bra sizes of random female students who walked past.

    You can take that as fun/silliness/utter rudeness depending on your point of view. But you can bet money that if a Tory MP did that at the Commons Turner would be the first one on Twitter to say how awful it was and demand apologies.

  100. 100
    taC eht abbaJ says:

    There is a very good summary by a Chilean of the Allende loony left situation and consequences here, starting at paragraph twelve


  101. 101
    John says:

    Don’t forget that famous moment when Jack Straw warmly welcomed and shook hands with Robert Mugabe – before realising the cameras were on him…

  102. 102
    Fog says:

    Who can disinfest UK of the socialist vermin?

  103. 103
    Great Granddad says:

    Pinochet got rid of the Allendes making today’s Chile possible. No man ever did more for his countrymen.

  104. 104
    Anita Bellows says:

    I am sure it will come as the surprise to many that condemning dictators who brought terrible misery to their own people, torture, execution of opposants, is not a pregorative of the left but of people who still have some moral fibers. Whether they supported the British at a time of need is irrelevant.

  105. 105
    Conrad says:

    Allende also acted unconstitutionally and ignored the Chilean courts when they ruled against him.

  106. 106
    Bob R says:

    Well, that makes the torture and execution of tens of thousands just ticketty boo, then.

  107. 107
    Bob R says:

    there’d be even fewer Labour constituencies.

  108. 108
    Anonymous - YouHeardItHereFirst says:

    Rosindell is Jeffery Archers Love Child. Of Course: Gaydoh won’t publish this comment or investigate conservatives. Fat shill that he is.

  109. 109
    BarryW says:

    er Second Lord etc, unless you are your father.

  110. 110

    The Pinochet cases, 1, 2 and 3 (famously and controversially) went before the courts. It was not government decision.

  111. 111
    Big Momma says:

    Liebour operating with double standards and being hypocritical.
    Shock, Horror, Total Disbelief.
    Cannot be right as the BBC have said nothing about this.

  112. 112
    Tower Hamlets voter says:

    Ed, leave it!. It’th a thtorm in a teacup!

    Explain to us again how borrowing a few billion more to spend on “equality” commissars would boost the UK economy! We really can’t get enough of that.

    I ‘ad that Jeremy Thorpe in the back of the cab the other day. He seems to have plenty of advice on coalition for Nick Clegg. Seems to have forgotten Norman Scott though.

  113. 113
    taC eht abbaJ says:

    I seem to recall Pinochet clocked up a couple thousand ‘Desaparecidos’. Argentina, on the other hand, had upward of thirty thousand people disappear during the dirty war.

  114. 114
    Goodwin Fortescue says:

    The french keep all the good stuff for themselves… Really!
    Whatever they don’t fancy gets marked up 300% and sent to the UK

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