June 18th, 2012

Brown’s Official Spokesman Confirmed Regular Murdoch Calls

Last week Gordon and a tiny number of loyalists took umbrage in this statement from the Cabinet Office:

“We confirm there is a record of only one call between Mr. Brown and Rupert Murdoch in the year to March 2010, on 10th of November 2009″.

They claimed this was complete vindication and proof that Gordon did not lie about the “declaration of war” phone call. However if that statement is compared to what was said at the time by Brown’s official civil service Prime Minister’s Spokesman, that vindication looks very shaky. The Guardian reported the following briefing to the Lobby on 12 November 2009, the day news of the official Murdoch/Brown call on November 10 had leaked:

“‘He [Brown] has regular communications with Rupert Murdoch, as you would imagine, and he has the most enormous personal regard for Rupert Murdoch,’ the prime minister’s official spokesman said. ‘I am not going to give any further information about the conversation. I am commenting as much as I think I can about a personal conversation. There is nothing unusual in the prime minister talking to Rupert Murdoch.‘”

So there was contemporaneous confirmation from a civil service source that there were regular conversations between Murdoch and Brown prior to November 2009. In the light of the latest Cabinet Office statement saying that they have only have a record of one conversation, any such regular calls can only have been unrecorded and unmonitored. Add this to Peter Mandelson’s sworn statement that the “war” conversation took place and it is clear to all but Brown’s bunker buddies that last week’s statement in no way clears the Prime Mentalist…


107 Comments

  1. 1
    Bull says:

    hope Levson recalls the nutter.

  2. 2
    Ed Miliband (Leader of the Party opposite) says:

    A storm in a teacup !

  3. 3
    Louise Mensch says:

    I told you,I told you,I told you.

  4. 4
    shooty* says:

    Whilst my own belief is that the call did take place, there may also be a bit of “trying to big Gordon up” in the statement of the Spokesman.

    Like “Gordon is so well beloved and well regarded by important people that he talks to them all the time. Really, he does. All the time. You simply would not believe it. Sometimes we have to tell them he’s busy, coz they call SO much”. That kind of thing.

    A bit like “No, Obama has LOADS of time for Gordon. He really does. Seriously. Those stories about Gordon being spared 45 seconds of his time as they walked through a kitchen? No truth in that at all.”

  5. 5
    Dr Eoin Clarke says:

    YOU ARE WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG, GORDON BROWN STOOD UP TO MURDOCH UNLIKE THATCHER!!!!

  6. 6
    Legal Crook says:

    Do you issue Gordo his medication?

  7. 7
    Take Mr Brown down says:

    Guilty. Don’t bother with a trial, just bang him up for contempt of Leveson’s court.

  8. 8
    Sandra says:

    Like all “British” institutions & public bodies, Leveson is a wholly owned contruct of the left.

    Brown will not be re-called to answer for his obvious perjury.

    Cameron will regret not taking on the public sector unions and Labour placemen in the BBC & the civil service.

  9. 9
    Steve Miliband says:

    You can send a country to war on the basis of a ‘googled’ thesis and survive a public enquiry. So unfortunately Bonkers will be able to carry on drawing his salary for not representing his constituents

  10. 10
    Umbrage? says:

    I think you have used the wrong word Guido. They did not take umbrage (annoyance), they took refuge (safety) in that statement last week.

  11. 11
    Ah! Monika says:

    Top Universities for economics.
    Task:- Count how many in the Eurozone

    1 Harvard University United States
    2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
    3 Stanford University United States
    4 London School of Economics and Political Science (LSE) United Kingdom
    5 University of Oxford United Kingdom
    6 University of Cambridge United Kingdom
    7 University of California, Berkeley (UCB) United States
    8 University of Chicago United States
    9 Yale University United States
    10 Princeton University

  12. 12

    ‘Conversations’ does not = phone calls
    ‘regular’ can be anything from every second to once a year
    quoting a Guardian article quoting an FT article quoting a spokesman who is giving their own explanation for a conversation about which they give no direct quotes

  13. 13
    The public says:

    Er, weren’t you once Gordon’s speechwriter, little boy?

  14. 14
    The public says:

    So the defence is: we lie to the public, but that’s OK.

  15. 15
    Chalky Lowlands says:

    Do you habitually use capitals because your hand writing’s so bad? Suggest you tone it down a bit on the internet, doc. Looks like you’re shouting and possibly in need of some happy pills yourself.

  16. 16
    Anonymous says:

    Fair point.

    And, Mandelson only said Brown was angry at the time he spoke to Murdoch. There is no mention of ‘war’, or in fact any direct quotes at all.

  17. 17
    William Jefferson Clinton says:

    It all depends on what your definition of “one call” is.

  18. 18
    Penfold says:

    A Truism:-

    The truth will always out.

    A Second Truism:-

    The cover up always becomes the worst crime and heads roll.

    Does anyone seriously doubt the veracity of Rupert Murdoch’s continued allegation………?

  19. 19
    shooty* says:

    Well… yeah. Did you not get the memo?

  20. 20
    Anonymous says:

    He is a megalomaniac geriatric who encourages sensationalist reporting in his papers, though?

  21. 21
    Tony Blair's Shredder says:

    In the Wtsminster world of shit governmment, deliberate obfuscation and total unaccountability to the public, that is the best evidence we would ever get. There are few records because there are supposed to be few records.

  22. 22
    The Public says:

    No.

  23. 23
    illogical says:

    Why? He has said everything that Leveson wants to hear.
    When the judge makes pronouncements that anybody [ Gove] contadicting his own pre thought out assesment of what need to be the facts is at fault, Gordons lying is like manna from heaven.

  24. 24
    The Public says:

    Out of the loop. We only get the bills

  25. 25
  26. 26
    Pawn Sandwich says:

    Lol, I think that is pretty clear. :)

  27. 27
    gramma says:

    Doc in name, but truthfully quack in nature. Nothing to do with medicine.
    Even my gerbil has a PhD in philosophy

  28. 28
    Ah! Monika says:

    Remember me?

  29. 29
    Anonymous says:

    Hit by an underground train.

    Was he off to Leveson to reveal all??

  30. 30
    Oh No it hasn't says:

  31. 31
    Albert Hall says:

    Umbrage-a feeling of anger caused by being offended.

  32. 32

    All phone calls are monitored, afaik the only Minister to publicly state a policy of bypassing this system is Gove.

  33. 33
    Anonymous says:

    I think NI are giving Labour all the rope they want to hang themselves – new labour were up to their necks in it. Given NI’s journalistic practices, I would imagine every single call and conversation was recorded and is now probably stores offshore somewhere. Question is what & when will trigger NI to dump on labour – so far they seemed to have been happy to lay the much at Cameron’s door.

  34. 34
    A Blogger says:

  35. 35
    All in the best possible whatever says:

    That gets ‘tasteless comment of the day’

  36. 36
    Anonymous says:

    More “He said, She said” isn’t much use without proper evidence?

  37. 37
    NotaSheep says:

    If only that was the case

  38. 38
    The VATman says:

    And they’re only getting bigger

  39. 39

    I saved the banks.
    He saved the euro
    He saved the dollar
    He saved the bottle tops for blue peter
    He saved money on my car insurance by switching to More Than
    He saved 10% on my weekly shop with a Lidl voucher
    He saved on a bogoff at Moss. 2 of my Brown suits for £30!
    He saved by buying Nokia’s in bulk.

    He saved the world!

    {but He never saved gold as that never goes up in value.}

  40. 40
    Lord Mandelbum of Fondleboys says:

    I think you mean ‘took solace’ rather than ‘took umbrage’. Umbrage is what they’ll take at the suggestion that el Gordo is the psycho-nutter we all know and loathe.

    Still, I suppose he can plead insanity when he and Bliar and the rest of the ZaNuLab scum are put on trial for treason and crimes against the people of the UK.

    Wonder what Bliar’s excuse will be.

    P.S. In mitigation we must also remember that Brown kept us out of the Euro, presumably to spite Blair, in spite of Blair’s strenuous efforts to join us up – that alone is enough to secure even Brown a peaceful retirement in a padded Nokia free office well away from London…

  41. 41
    Col Nut says:

    Dr Gerbil’s got a familiar ring.

  42. 42
    gramma's gerbil says:

    Seemed like the best thing to do after taking a degree in PPE.

  43. 43

    I actually agree with that statement Sandra! +1

  44. 44
    Surgery Times says:

    But the thing is, everyone knows he was a liar. This was Tony Blair’s right-hand man who got us into the war in Iraq, for God’s sake, the abolisher of boom and bust, the man who saved the world.

    What does, yet again, demonstrating his lack of respect for the truth achieve?

  45. 45

    On the one hand a megalomaniac geriatric who encourages sensationalist reporting. On the other, a megalomaniac fantasist who encourages sensationalist reporting.

    Hard to choose between them.

    I suggest a fight with whips, like the one in Flash Gordon. On that tilting, spikey platform thing at cloud city.

    Gordon’s relative youth offset by his poor vision. Should be entertaining.

  46. 46
    Philip McArthur says:

    No but he is on the same medication

  47. 47
    Rupe says:

  48. 48
    Steve Miliband says:

    He saved the penalty to win the world cup

  49. 49
    Anonymous says:

    That would be the Harvard where edballs learned neo-endo growth theory and elementary gold-selling?

    If only more of our universities could compete with that kind of record.

  50. 50
    The intern's internals says:

    Miss L, I presume?

  51. 51
    Anonymous says:

    Revenge is a dish best served cold.Just be patient.

  52. 52

    Moral: Gove is too honest to be a Minister.

  53. 53
    Cllr Mustaffa councilhouse (Respec party) says:

    If NI had not switched sides at the last election would Brown and Labour have allowed Twatson to lead an anti Murdoch crusade?

  54. 54
    Dobbie says:

    Who cares? They are both nutters.

  55. 55
    Dobbie says:

    Another nutter!

  56. 56
    Not born yesterday says:

    Sure, all phone calls on the lines for the public to use, not that they would ever get through to the Prime Minister or be called up by him.

    I very much doubt that those are the sole means of telecommunication. Not the ones that a Prime Minister would use to talk to the likes of Murdoch.

  57. 57
    Loungelizard says:

    Gordon’s next public statement will be ‘ Oh that call’ followed by a chopsy attempt at an ingratiating smile.

  58. 58
    Hunter says:

    Did anyone find the mobile phone Gordon threw across the room ?

  59. 59
    jgm2 says:

    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

  60. 60
    Dobbie says:

    Just because the sworn evidence is a bit unhelpful to the tory bollocks?

  61. 61
    Dobbie says:

    Just like in Harry Potter!

  62. 62
    nellnewman says:

    Well alycampbell says gordon in bonkers. When his own side publicly brand him a nutcase who are we to disagree?

  63. 63
    Maybe all these years they were censured not persecuted? says:

    Economics is not a science.

    Task:- Count how many J-e-w-s there are running the economics faculties of all those US universities and ponder why Alfred Nobel never constituted a Nobel prize for economics.

    PS Check out the doumentary INSIDE JOB. What do you notice about most of the protagonists? It really was an ‘inside job’ of collusion.

  64. 64
    nellnewman says:

    ‘is’ not ‘in’

  65. 65
    A barber says:

    What is it like not living with a lunatic?

  66. 66
    Dobbie says:

    I think he failed elementary gold selling. (Like he has failed in everything else).

  67. 67
    Bill Clinton says:

    it depends what the meaning of ‘is’ is.

  68. 68
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    The top man from one of the financial institutions has just been on the news
    He said he is terrified about what is happening in the Euro zone
    he went on to say Greece can never repay the money they are borrowing
    even if they sell of their infrastructure , airports etc ,they will be in recession for many years to come
    and he feels that all these European ministers Fail to grasp the magnitude of the situation they are in

    And still they throw money at it !

  69. 69
    Jethro Q. Walrus-Titty says:

    Can’t we put the prime mentalist before a judge who shall utter :-

    “You have been found guilty of High Treason.

    You will drawn on a hurdle to the place of execution where you shall be hanged by the neck and being alive cut down, your privy members shall be cut off and your bowels taken out and burned before you, your head severed from your body and your body divided into four quarters to be disposed of at the Queen’s pleasure”

  70. 70
    jgm2 says:

    Brown will stick to the ‘There’s no evidence….’ line rather than ‘That never happened…’

    It’s the Bart Simpson defence.

  71. 71
    Anonymous says:

    Guido,if you have firm evidence of lies to Leveson then it should be handed to the authorities for action against those concerned.

  72. 72
    Central Office stooge says:

    As long as we are not served left-over helpings of re-warmed spite.

  73. 73
    Ed Balls says:

    I also have GCSE in alchemy

  74. 74
    jgm2 says:

    I saw a quote elsewhere from Frank Field that he could not get an audience with the Maximum Imbecile by phone or in person. He was too well protected by his thugs. Anybody who thinks Brown (or Blair) would use official channels other than to entrap a political enemy is woefully naive.

    The only hope is that Murdoch records his calls but then, he too would know that, on balance, his calls might do a lot more harm than good if recorded I’m sure he was a discrete as Brown and Blair when it came to keeping records.

  75. 75
    Jimmy says:

    Finished with that barrel yet?

  76. 76
    jgm2 says:

    The normal Labour action would be to arrest the whistle blower. On national security grounds.

  77. 77
    Tony Blair says:

    I do not not have an opinion..

  78. 78
    jgm2 says:

    It’s a bit unhelpful to the Labour bollocks too.

  79. 79

    Well they’ve apparently found 4 more that weren’t declared to the News of the World investigators so you never know.

  80. 80
    hedumakayted says:

    hello, it’s me again! ed bollocks. the blinky-twat!

    there’s a harvard man at the heart of every disaster, y’know.

    and talking of disasters, have you met my wife?

    yvette copper-bollocks.

    anyway gotta go. my scrotum’s flatlining. come on my lovely………

  81. 81
    Dobbie needs to understand says:

    Just because it’s sworn evidence doesn’t make it the truth, as ably demonstrated by Brown last week.

    I think though that you’ll find that Sandra’s comment comes from watching the farce that is Robert Jay pursuing his forensic examinations of everything that News Int and Conservatives did or may have done whilst comprehensively letting Labour politicians off the hook with extremely light questioning and zero follow up.

  82. 82
    hedumakayted says:

    piss off jizzy

  83. 83
    jgm2 says:

    You have Murdoch, Campbell and A.N.Other (according to Guido) giving evidence that such a call did take place.

    And only the Maximum Imbecile claiming it didn’t.

    If three witnesses, personally known to you, said you battered an old lady to death but you claimed you didn’t then I think you’d be in a certain amount of trouble with the police. So it is with this phonecall.

    It’s always the cover-up that gets ‘em.

  84. 84
    Gordon says:

    Saw young Tom Maynard at a Twenty20 match at the weekend, what a fine sportsman, he is sure to go far.

  85. 85
    Where are Tony Blair's expenses says:

    Wait until Brooks gets in the dock, she won’t be taking a jail sentance on her own; she will provide enough evidence to bring down the whole political establishment.

    Wouldn’t surprise me if she didn’t end up in a car crash in a tunnel

  86. 86
    Hang The Bastards says:

    will his dumbass wife retract her pathetic tweet last week saying it proves he was telling the truth.

    More importantly will the BBC report this significant difference.

  87. 87
    We can dream says:

    I don’t care about how terrified a stupid banker who lent money he does have gets. In fact, i hope he is shitting his pants because he, and he alone, is going to make a loss on his investment and end up a pauper.

  88. 88
    Anonymous says:

    Well the Milly Dowler episode would have been swept under the carpet. (See the “not be helped by digging up crimes ten years on” quote Guido has just posted.)

    And the News of the World would have been published yesterday as normal.

  89. 89
    The Golem says:

    +1

  90. 90
    Rupert my Hero says:

    Leave Gordon alone…

  91. 91
    Rat's arse says:

    Me too! Wow Sandra, nice one!

  92. 92
    Rat's arse says:

    Anonymong – the fool’s fool! What a nasty bastard.

  93. 93
    jay walking says:

    Is this particular Jay in any way related to a Jay of a previous era who married somebody important’s daughter and was subsequently appointed as HM Ambassador in Washington? I think Sunny Jim fits in there somewhere but memory fades…

  94. 94
    Dobbie says:

    And Gove is far better than anyone else…he thinks.

  95. 95
    The other Liver girl says:

    ‘ey Sand, yer gorrit in one.

  96. 96
    Unaligned voter says:

    I agree totally!

  97. 97
    Da de dum de da de dum says:

    Oo arr, Oi thort that were where them Archers lived.

  98. 98
    Unaligned voter says:

    Me too. I am always amused by the tory nuts who post on here with such utter crap, and then it is answered by some labour numb nut (or worse a UKIP tit).

  99. 99
    E Con E Mist says:

    Oh, so Goerge Busgh must have studied there judging by the mess that Irish president fellow O’bama is in.

  100. 100
    Dobbie says:

    Are you suggesting Sir/Madam that citizens of the UK tell lies in Court proceedings? I is shocked (to the hilt!)

  101. 101
    Bristolian says:

    You’m not wrong derr.

  102. 102
    Libraryan wot kan spel says:

    jgm: ‘discrete’ means one of a kind; ‘discreet’ means secretive.

  103. 103
    Ordinary bloke says:

    Do you think Mr Jay QC might find the time to be the prosecuting counsel? That would be fun!

  104. 104
    Chris says:

    This is a bit of a reach to be honest.

    All this shows is he had regular communications with Murdoch while he was still friends with him, and still had the full backing of his media empire…….Wow. I could have told you that.

    The argument is 2010, years later, when he had lost the support of Murdoch. And the only evidence fully backs Browns account.

    You know, at least come up with interesting smears!

    I could have come up with this.

  105. 105
    downwithBrown says:

    Or maybe he kept Britain out to please Murdoch and enhance his chances of becoming leader.

  106. 106
    Beness says:

    Very poor taste.

  107. 107
    Double Tap says:

    Labours usual method is ‘death whilst out walking in the country’.

    Becky better stay in the town.


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