Cabinet Office Statement Does Not Clear Brown
The Cabinet Office has revealed details of Gordon Brown’s chats with Rupert Murdoch: “We confirm there is a record of only one call between Mr. Brown and Rupert Murdoch in the year to March 2010, on 10th of November 2009″. Despite the statement making it clear that no independent civil servant was on the call to take minutes, the Prime Mentalist is claiming that he’s in the clear: “This statement confirms Mr Brown’s evidence to the Inquiry”. Not quite.
Before people start crowing that Murdoch has committed perjury, Uncle Rupe told the Inquiry that Brown phoned him in September 2009, not November. Given that Murdoch’s kids were having sleepovers at Chequers, we know full well that Gordon had a mobile phone…
It’s bloody obvious that Gordon is lying.
He’s a Politician – nuff said !
He’s just a bigoted old man!
it wouldn’t make sense for rupert to make something like that up..and would we think brown was the sort of man to make such a call…absobloodylutely
And do we think that Brown would have the political cunning to make sure such a call would not be recorded in the usual manner ?
Could it be that Gordon destroyed his Nokias to destroy bthe evidence?
I reckon you are right Guido. That phone call was made by Gordon in a violent temper as soon as he found out that the Sun had dumped him. He was out of control and did not use official or monitored communications. You only have to look at his interview with Bolton the next morning, Gordon was clearly unhinged and ready to lash out at anyone around him, even on live TV.
Can anyone post that clip?
Socialism is a mental disorder: The Labour Party is the asylum…..and this one is clearly out on licence.
When you see the antics of the 2 Eds, Hattie etc. Its obvious they arent the full shilling either !
How about a freedom of information request for his mobile phone bill that month?
Now we know why the gord threw his phoens about – a PM destroying evidence deliberately would be acting criminally. He’s not daft is he, mad but not daft
Surely he would have been at his seaside conference venue, so no civil serpents present – so all this is saying is that the call was not from Downing Street, ergo meanngless.
Just hang Brown!
Shoot the fat lying useless c.unt
Is there a Guido contributor with a law degree? If so, could he or she tell us if Brown could face charges of lying to the enquiry? I assume there’s a difference between the enquiry and a court of law in terms of penalties for perjury or perverting the course of justice.
I would imagine that, being a judicial inquiry that is conducted at the Royal Courts of Justice and the evidence is given under oath, then the Laws of Evidence will prevail. I think it comes under the Criminal Justice Act 1967 and its subsequent amendments.
Even if Brown’s actions are/were such that would result in prosecution for perjury for Mr or Mrs Public, the CPS won’t dare take action against Brown, because he’s one of their own.
If it walks like a Brown and talks like a Brown then it is lying.
Then it’s a shit
There would be a record of any mobile call. Brown is a proven liar. Personally I believe Murdoch.
Brown has been flushed out. He’s on the run and has gone into hiding after his humiliation at the Leveson Enquiry where his posturing fell apart within minutes.
He was reduced to the Bart Simpson defence. ‘I didn’t do it. Nobody saw me. You can’t prove a thing.’
Much better to not remember things when one appears at the, at the, err Leverarch enquiry.
Much more credible not to remember things that were said at meetings and dinners 3 years ago – my husband can’t remember exactly what he said at meetings 3 weeks ago. Contrast with Brown and his Total Recall – ‘I remember distinctly’!
Eat my shorts, is the defence to use at a time like this, says the one and only bart
I dont get why we have proven liars like Blair and Brown out there, (for 13 years) and Levason seems intent on hammering Cameron and Osborne and drooling over private text messages between neighbours.Surely anybody having any sort of illicit relationship would just buy a cheap mobile phone, and the same for the other party.
I’d just like to wish Martha Payne good luck with her blog
Brown is yesterday’s man. He is finished. Gone to fester in the midge infested shit-hole that is Scotland. Just consign the prat to oblivion. Ignore him and his lies.
From the left breasty dumpling Brown suckles 66k per year plus expenses as an MP. From the right breasty dumpling he gorges 100k per year tax free for life as a former Prime Minister. Let the spotlight shine on him for as long as that travesty continues.
You were on Question Time last night, weren’t you Nursie?
But he’s still controlling the strings of his flunkies like Tom Watson. Brown is still able to create mischief.
For that reason, and for his completely undeserved salary and pension, I hope he dies ASAP.
A phone call leaves a trace at both ends.
That Gordon supporters may think that the No 10 records clear him leaves aside the possibility that the News International records may yet indicate something different …
Fuck. Sue. Sue! Why didn’t you think of that.
He wasn’t at number 10. He was in Brighton attending the party conference, surrounded by fellow lefties equally agrieved at what the Sun had just done, they would all most likely have their own mobile phones with them. Chances are no civil servant could get anywhre near Gordon at that time
Good point, remember you need to take a very semantic view when examining what these slippery individuals say. Pin them down precisely or they run all over you.
No independent civil servants listened in – so does that mean uncivil Spads like McBride, Whelan or others were in on it?
Murdoch v Brown – good for lawyers, and a big laugh.
Gordon was in Brighton at the Labour party conference when the phone call was made. Who’s to say he even used his own Nokia? I’m sure Damien would have let him use his if asked.
One thing’s for sure he would not have threatened to ruin Murdoch in front of civil servants and have it documented.
Oh yes he would. He is famous for assaulting staff and destroying taxpayer property in full view of witnesses. It’s just sheer happy coincidence (for him) that when he blew his stack this time around there was nobody around who is prepared to testify. Yet.
I bet Murdoch has records of every conversation he ever has, the man is not a fool. Unlike the morons who are tring to get him.I hope something is in the pipe line for Watson. His Mafia and “not fit to run a company” comments were a disgrace.
You are very likely to win the bet but I can not tell when that will be.
When this matter cools down & Levison has issued his report we can look to implementation of the advice that revenge is a dish best served cold.
I’ve just taken a photo of my poo, is there a blog I can upload it too?
http://www.ratemypoo.com/
You’ve come to the right place.
says shitlicker jimmy
The two M’s all politicians from ConsLibDemsLieLabor are experts in
(1) Manipulation (2) Mendacity although some are certainly much more expert than others in this devious behaviour.
When McDoom is recalled to Leverson the questions need to be much more robust & intrusive instead of just accepting McDoom’s account of his delusions as fact or is this enquirey more of a ZanuLieLabor leaning ??
Mean while the EUSSR edges ever closer to the fiscal abyss as Brussels fiddles & scratches its annal regions like a transfixed bunch rabbits caught in the headlights with only UKIP bold enough to say the real truth of what is being allowed to happen………..VOTE UKIP…………………..
There was by all accounts more than one or two members of the liebour party who sit on the front bench that were present when this phone call was made, so are lying by ommision?
4 people that work for the labour party have confirmed that Gordon Brown was not steering the Titanic when it hit an iceburg
True, but he was the navigation officer
Because he had gone for a piss. Technically he wasn’t steering. No one was.
iceberg
Quite correct: your not allowed to steer when you are on drugs.
Could this be another ‘Duffy’ moment for the man who worked economic miracles?
He’ll be telling us next that he never threw Nokias;pushed scretaries off chairs;thumped his bodyguard in the back or called anyone a bigot !!!!!
Bet the poor sweaty-sock wishes he’d stayed at home after the last election and locked the door firmly behind him…FOR EVER.
It had to happen, the Silent Bob video post.
??????????
Surely
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Who cares the eurozone ends on Sunday
Rejoice, the end of the Eurozone is Nigh!, repent all ye sinners, yes that means you Kinnochio & co.
Can we have like, street parties and stuff?
You mean all those parties at which they will be burning the EU flag instead of waving one.
I for one, will be having the mother of all hangovers the day after the Euro fails.
Its so petty and trivial. McMental had every right to be furious. His main customer had just switched to a rival supplier.
Few would blame the idiot for being angry.
And they kicked him really hard on the way out. Chopping him over conference.
Yet this incident is typical of him.
Instead of showing a human side he insists he wasn’t affected. Wasn’t concerned. Didn’t even care that the newspapers had given him a shafting on the day of his big {3,000th anniversary} relaunch.
Major, Cameron, even Osborne and Blair, admitted they were caught in a newspaper trap. That they were influenced by the media.
Everyone except the great helmsman. The man who insisted that all papers were brought to him before 6am, with all sections about him, labour, Cameron, etc highlighted.
That’s reported in everyone of his cronies memoirs.
Yet..according to the refusenik one, that never happened.
It’s hard to know if he’s genuinely that insane or is that he has such total contempt for everybody, him being so clever and all, that he thinks that it simply doesn’t matter what he says – we’ll all forget it tomorrow.
Labour polling at 40%+ does rather suggest he’s of the second opinion. And, much as it galls me to admit it, he’s got that right.
Is it any wonder politicians lie when, faced with the biggest economic clusterfuck in almost a century you can, only two years after getting rid of the jackasses that caused it, have a population that is ready to stick the same fuckwits with the same fucked-up policies, back into power. No wonder politicians treat the voters with contempt. If I was a politician, faced with that information, I’d treat the voters with contempt.
Re “polling at 40%” who are these people who swear undying alliegance to strange ED and co ? i have never been asked anything by a polling company, how do you get on their books. Maybe they hang around outside psychiatric outpatient departmants !
See yesterday’s threads. Ed was talking to a bunch of them on the wireless. Some of them were really pisted orf with him and told him just how useless and uninspiring he was – but will STILL vote Labour at the next elections.
According to him all calls are logged and go by the switchboard. Please tell me how a mobile call from him goes via the switchboard? Perhaps he only used chocolate Nokias as they were for destructive purposes only!!!
So on this week he was at the Party conference. He made NO official calls on his mobile.
See Gordon has just applied for a new post as the spanish finance minister, I’ve saved the world and now I will save spain
Ay carramba – Vamos!
wouldn’t it be good if everything Cameron and his mates was analysed so consistently and thoroughly
Bit they are, by the bbc
That’s what the BBC is for.
I thought that was what the Guardian was doing already. However, whatever Cameron et al do, I doubt it will have the same mental imbalance quotient.
Maybe.
Did Dave say he had never met Rebekah? Never known anyone called Rupert?
Did Dave say that when no one phoned him after dumping him. He never lost his notoriously short fused temper. He never knew about his own henchmen plotting to oust his greatest rival, and prime minister.
he never read a paper. Never looked at a poll. Never authorised a leak. Never threatened colleagues with the ‘forces of hell’
When half his cabinet resigned in protest at his inept performance, he didn’t mind.
When Murdoch ran a story about his child, he was angry. So angry he decided not to cancel a sleep over with those who published, because…well..why?
He has no answer except to deny the events are well know. Have already been in print. Were media stories at the time.
if Dave ‘s defence had been ..”no that never happened..and can I add that I am heroic, but have been badly let down by the media, the party and the nation.” then maybe similar scrutiny would be applied.
Never looked at a poll?
Classic. The man who bottled an election he would certainly have won on the strength of one conference speech by Cameron?
What a Grade A loon.
Guardian readers eat poncy lunches shock:
http://storify.com/guardian/mylunchformartha-your-lunchtime-snaps-in-solidari
The plebs, of course, wouldn’t know what half of those things were, let alone be able to afford them.
Sums up the average poncy, middle class, ‘liberal’ bigot Guardianista’s attitude to the rest of us. ‘Let them eat cake’, indeed. Personally, I’d rather have a big plate of chips and gravy or chips with industrial quantities of salt, vinegar and ketchup, followed by soptted dick and custard. Yes, I know these things are fattening (only if you eat them), but I don’t care a stuff what the useless do-gooders of this world think.
Surely Murdoch taped the call! Knowing his biggest selling paper has just dumped the most malignant force in British public life and then he gets a phone call from the very same vermin. As head of a media empire you’d record that call wouldn’t you? I do hope he has and he’s just biding his time, giving Brown enough rope to completely hang himself, before publishing the tape….
Maybe you wouldn’t want to be recording your calls. You can see how bad it looks when you’re ordered to hand over all your e-mails. Imagine how much worse it could be if you were ordered to hand over all your (recorded) calls.
More harm than good I’d have thought.
Is it still possible to do some forensics on the wall plaster at No10, just count the notches left by Gorrrrrrrrrodns flying Nokia and get them carbon dated.
Guido has considered the matter fully and reached the following conclusions:
1. Murdoch is a saintly individual for whom deceit would be as unthinkable as editorial interference.
2. He would never dream of recording a telephone conversation.
3. His telephone and indeed all office records which would have corroborated his claim for were tragically lost in a freak accident involving a dingo.
4. Vote conservative.
If that doesn’t clear the matter up I don’t know what will
It was a Dingo wot dun it, after 30 years they have finally accepted the possibility that this is the likely truth, Leveson Enquiry stardate 2043, M’Lud is now 92 and just about to interrogate a Bee Keeper from mid Wales.
The same dingo that tragically ate Blair’s expenses paperwork?
No. That was mistakenly incinerated to the last phony receipt by an over-enthusiastic SpAd. Unfortunately, through an administrative oversight, the Fees Office didn’t keep a copy either.
Jimmy I know all Jocks like to stick together like like shitty tissue paper in times of adversity, but are you really trying to tell us that Gordon Brown is veracity personified and that he was a suitable person to lead this nation?
Instead of your usual misdirection, gives your reasons for defending Brown – you know, actually CONTRIBUTE to the debate instead of smartarse comments.
You come here for serious debate? Rather like going to a vegetarian restaurant and ordering the steak. Takes all sorts I suppose.
I thought I’d made it reasonably clear that my point was that on this particular point Gordon is plainly telling the truth and Murdoch is equally plainly lying and I’m amused by the increasingly desperate attempts to suggest otherwise.
Gordon is plainly telling the truth and Murdoch is equally plainly lying
There’s not much you could have said to undermine your position further. At the risk of invoking Godwin, it’s people with your sort of mental tics that end up manning the taps on the gas chambers. You’ll forgive your heroes anything.
Twat.
“At the risk of invoking Godwin,”
For a right winger I would hardly have thought that was a risk worth taking. I have to say that might be the silliest post I’ve ever seen here, and I need hardly remind you of the standard of competition. Where fuckwittery is concerned this site is recognised as an Olympic qualifying event.
Nah, Jimmy is too much of a snide little passive-aggressive type to do something as active as that. He’d be the greasy little accounts clerk trying to convince himself it’s perfectly normal to have a room piled high with gold teeth.
Cynical Old Man = Bigot
Can I ask you if all Ings stick together over what ever fellow Ings Milliband, Harman, Balls or Watson say or do ?
roll yourself in glitter, newlabourshitter
happy now?
Hi everybody!
I can confirm that on the night in question I was called to administer a double dose of bonkersaphram and loonie-quiet-actamol to a patient in Brighton, just after the time quoted.
Why this was needed I cannot say. The man was raving and quiet violent, in an hand flappingly gay way..
He had a broken cell phone in his grip that he was trying to eat.
It took three or four of us to restrain him.
LOL & ROFLMFHO…….twice…….
Please arrange for HD Video of this incident to be posted on You Tube…ta
also can you confirm if the said Nutter involved was treated as a Private Patient if so
who paid the your Fee or was this a NHS treatment…….Thanks
Go to the Cabinet Room in Number Ten, turn right, don’t go up the main stairs on your right to the reception rooms upstairs, but rather carry straight on and go up a short flight of stairs. To your left is the room where calls are recorded.
Why don’t people just demand the tape? Best thing since the Watergate tapes…
Sadly the equipment is only capable of recording calls which actually took place. The technology is not yet in place to record imaginary conversations invented by Murdoch to get himself out of a tight spot.
…..however well reported that imaginary conversation was at the time. Face it Jimmy, when it comes to lying, Gordon is the World’s best.
On the contrary. When he tried to feign innocence of any plots against Tony it was abundantly clear he has no talent for it at all.
So you admit Brown is liar then?
I accept that some of his testimony may not have been quite as helpful as it might have been.
oh that’s too bad, are we on the fucking contrary, oh dear oh dear.
why doncha sit down and have a nice cup of english rosy fuckinlee
with tony fuckinblair already! fuckinschmuck! and one more thing…
have a nice day!
So what they are really saying is that no phone calls between Mr Brown and Mr Murdoch were recorded in September 2009. What they are not saying is that no phone calls were made.
I do hope Rupe can prove this one.
Surely Guido’s first sentence should say, “The Cabinet Office has released details of some of Gordon Brown’s chats with Rupert Murdoch.”
So, Sarah Brown, what about the other 95% torrent of untruths? He knew nothing about briefings against Tone? Twatson did not drive hundreds of miles to discuss the Blair ousting plan with him? He paid no attention to newspapers or opinion polls? Sarah only kept sucking up to the Murdochs because ‘she is very forgiving’ and so on? His whole appearance was a travesty of the sworn-on-the-Bible truth, coached and medicated to the nines, doubtless, but to no avail.
Bloody green vegetable!!
“Before people start crowing that Murdoch has committed perjury,”
You will let me know when I have permission to start?
How about when Salvator Mundi takes Rupe to Court for libel and defamation? It’s an instant win for Gordon, isn’t it?
You know the barrel is well and truly being scraped when that old warhorse is trotted out.
If Mr Fawkes has admissible evidence that Mr Brown has committed perjury then he should have been down the Police Station with it straight away or even quicker.
When people tell us lies in Wales we don’t like it.
How come you voted repeatedly for the Welsh Windbag then?
why do you keep voting labour then you moron
You died years ago boyo.
Spent most of your last years in exile in Italy thanks to EU membership and benefiting from all that cheap Lambrusco whilst the rest of us stayed here struggling.
How can you tell the difference? Are you an old witch? I think we should be told.
Guido you are the vilest person in blogland, you cannot admit defeat when you are proven wrong.
Are you expecting a knighthood for your lies
Anonymous – YOU are the most irritating fuckwit on Guido’s blog. You never stop. You moan and bitch and switch from Tory to Labour. You complain you’ve never been approached by a polling organisation. How ironic is that when you can’t even decide for yourself who you support? I wish you’d fuck off and leave this blog for people with something to say AND a consistent position on matters under discussion. You call Guido vile! I call you an unbalanced idiot who should be sectioned and stuffed in a darkened cell with the One-Eyed Scottish Fuckwit until one of you calls for Nurse.
+ infinity
“Are you expecting a knighthood for your lies”
Of course. Why else would he be in a kneeling position?
This site makes my eyes bleed. Guido, go for a jog instead of continually spouting your tripe. You will end up looking better and being less vile in character.
Door >>>
This site makes my eyes bleed and children cry. Truely tripe.
Why do you read it then? Twat.
Oh how I hope Digger has the evidence to bury this f*cktard and is just waiting for Leveson to report before he releases it.
It’s all a load of Bollox…..I don’t believe for one second that all his mobile calls go through the No 10 switchboard….and he was at the Labour Party Conference at the time….
Are we therefore supposed to believe that his calls to the Beard went through the switchboard?
Guilty as Hell!!!!
Zactly. This weren’t no official phonecall and was made on someone’s moby in a Brighton hotel packed to the gunnels with the likes of McBride, Wheelan and Watson.
Hypothetically speaking, Brown did not necessarily call Murdoch as he stated but rather barked an order for some flunky to get Murdoch on the phone for him. Said flunky makes a call from some disposable mobile and hands it on to Brown when Murdoch is on the line. Thus Brown didnt make the call as he stated and Number 10 have no record of it. Hypothetically speaking of course.
Also Brown slips in ‘there is no evidence’ to support that this call was made….ie; he made the call or at least spoke to Uncle Rup on a phone that was not recorded etc…
How much do we hope Uncle Rup records all of his calls..
Come in GCHQ.We need your recordings of all telephone calls made by the Scottish madman.
We will try to retrieve copies of the said calls from Comrade Putin @ Kremlin…..
Clarification We’ve used the Kremlin’s Online Cloud storage facility for a number of years for all of our recorded files as they offer the most cost effective reliable service available.
Lots of Brown Haters on here.
Worth recalling that a former Tory PM also accused Murdoch of lying, but seeing you lot claiming Murdoch is a paragon of truth pretty much sums up the state of your brains.
It’s also worth thinking about the fact that a call to Murdoch would go through his switchboard, and if it was the PM I would be astonished if someone didn’t record or minute the call. As NI have failed to produce a shred of evidence on this over the last 6 months, it looks to me like Brown is more likely to be telling the truth than Murdoch.
But hey – don’t let reality get in the way of spineless hatred.
I suppose it’s a possibility NI might be looking to exchange what they (might) have for maximum value.
Not a very smart Alec are you?
what is an Alec ?
Brown’s claim proves nothing. Remember, people can make calls on mobiles, and, in any case, during the week in question, Brown was away on a Labour conference so he would not have been able to make a call from Downing Street. That does not mean to say he could not have made the call from the conference or somewhere else.