June 12th, 2012

Mr Jay’s Miliband Conflict

As Guido reported in the Daily Star Sunday at the weekend, there’s a bit of a conflict of interest coming up at Leveson this afternoon:

“The inquiry’s chief inquisitor Mr Robert Jay QC might have to miss out on two of the biggest names though. He’s the boss of the 39 Essex Street chambers where Justine Thornton, also known as Mrs Ed Miliband, works. This apparent conflict of interest should see someone else interrogate the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition.”

It would be a shame to miss out on a Mr Jay showdown with Dave on Thursday, but Guido can’t really see how he can question Ed.

UPDATE: It’s Jay. Imagine the fuss if Jay was Sam Cam’s boss…


UPDATE III: As reported by the Guardian:

“Jay reopens the inquiry by confirming he is head of chambers at the law firm where Miliband’s wife works. However, he says he has not met Miliband outside the circumstances of this inquiry.”


  1. 1
    Dodgy, he must declare says:



    • 4
      Tomorrow's Chip Wrapper says:

      Miliband is only 10 minutes into his evidence and already I have a burning desire to reach for the sick bucket……………if he trowels much more grease on to Lord L His Lordship will slide out of his seat


      • 12
        Colin the Meek says:

        He’s just admitted that he doesn’t know right from wrong. An utterly hopeless individual.


      • 136
        JadedJean says:

        Some would call it chutzpah!

        There is a group of people who due to reproductive endogamy (some would call it the practice of eugenics) have developed more feminised brains via the maternal bloodline. In short they have higher developed verbal intelligence when compared to the average person (think very good sales people etc).

        But whatever you do, don’t upset them, because hell hath no fury… etc etc.

        Miliband is probably related to Leveson in more ways than is outwardly obvious.


    • 17
      Gordon McBust Brown says:

      I never plotted against Tony Blair. I can swear that under oath because I am a son of the manse, I have a moral compass and I ended boom and bust.


    • 43
      Popeye says:

      Damn-it Guido, you’ve gone and blown it!


    • 77
      AC1 says:

      Oh No! I’ve left my father running the country!


    • 96
      What a Plonker. says:

      Is it just my Imagination or does Robert Jay give Labour an
      easier time ?


    • 100
      Geoffrey says:

      There’s a “legal fiction” that barristers in the same chambers are independent of one another.


      • 110
        giant gonad says:

        Hard to call Jay her ‘boss’, when they are both self-employed.


        • 117
          Fake Blood says:

          Cobblers. If he’s head of chambers then he controls what goes on there. Employees, sub-contractors and barristers all.


        • 120

          Yes, like TaylorWimpey builders – the self employed subbies don’t do what the site foreman (who can also be a subbie foreman) tells them to do, do they? So how could Jay, as self employed head of chambers apply pressure or show favour?


        • 158
          drphilyerboots says:

          So Jays relationships with the wife of a prominent politician does not disqualify him. Vince Cable declaring war on Murdoch does not get him sacked for bias. Jeremy Hunt must be sacked immediately because he allegedly was pro Murdoch.
          Seems fair to me!


  2. 2
    Geronimo says:

    How about you stepping in and giving Jay a couple of days off? Thats if you feel up to the job?


    • 155
      Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

      I can’t, for the life of me, understand why Mr Jay has not called me as a witness. I have both had my phone tapped and been followed for years. Boaz.


  3. 3
    easily confused says:

    Was Guido due to question Ed, then?


  4. 5
    Ah! Monika says:

    Sucking Up to Leveson

    ” I want to tell you that wo’ I am saying is that I will do everything to ensure you recommendations do not end up on a shelf”

    That’s before he knows wo’ they will be FFS.

    PS has somebody been having another go at his nose?


    • 34
      Sophie says:

      And unless the Conservative Party ditches rusty Dave now Ed Militant will probably be the next PM.

      Vote UKIP – even if we get that east European marxist fuckwit in Number 10


      • 132

        Great plan Sophe! Are you related to Major General Cornwallis, or were your relatives responsible for the plan behind “Operation Market Garden”, or where you just a lemming in a previous life?

        You really need some leadership qualities, the first of which is not to go down dying, it’s to make the enemy go down dying. You seem to hate the Tories far more than LieBore, which says rather a lot about your parties lack of ambition and ability.

        And just to get it all out there – I don’t want to be in the EU. I think a lot of THE COALITION policies and U turns are due to making decisions by committee and are crap, but to vote for a bunch of dissafected scrotes and chancers out of disgruntled grumpyness – no thanks. They might be wrong on a lot of things, but they do have a track record for getting it right from the perspective of hindsight.


    • 39
      Colin the Meek says:

      If you look closely, you can see the word “Nokia” printed backwards down the side of it. Old habits die hard.


  5. 6
    Leveson Farce says:

    The whole of the Leveson enquiry is a farce!


    • 18
      Circle Jerk says:



      • 78
        tell it like it is says:

        Why aren’t I surprised to learn about links between Jay and Labour.
        What a f***ing joke.


        • 102
          jgm2 says:

          Part of the interview process when joining chambers as with any partnership is to make sure that you’re ‘like-minded’ people. No point being at each other’s throats having to share offices and costs and suchlike.

          It does indeed explain much about the tenor of the questioning by the impartial Mr Jay.


  6. 7
    referring to yourself in the third person do-dah does create problems sometimes says:

    You know he meant, you pedantic twot.


  7. 10
    Mili Band Wagon says:

    This is the establishment investigating themselves. It’s more cosy than a tea cosy shop in the cotswolds on a autumn day.


  8. 11
    Not surprised says:

    Sources describe Justine Thornton as “exceptional” in terms of her “clarity of advice” and also single her out for her “excellent grasp of legal and tactical issues.

    Hope she’s briefed Ed well then!


    • 49
      illogical says:

      I find it difficult to accept Justine as “the power behind the throne” when Ed has yet to be potty trained.
      Perhaps “he and she would have more success as a wife and mother if instead of regarding husband Ed as her adult equal she considered him as another of her children, by reiterating the basics that will get him through life.
      Did brother David get all the attention at home where Ed was overlooked and ignored as “the little brother?


      • 62
        Ivor Tapeworm says:

        Ed is the not-quite-so-bright* sibling who really should have been a clergyman. This whole ‘Ed becoming the Leader of the Labour’ Party thing is huge cock-up and very embarrasing for the Millibands.

        *Bright, in relation to the Milliband of Brothers, being a relative** term.

        ** Pun intended.


        • 79
          jgm2 says:

          I thought Ned was the clever one. David Miliband managed to get into Oxford PPE with ‘A’ Level results that spell his brother’s name. EDD.

          If only I’d known it was so easy to get in. We were always told you needed to be ‘AAA’ material before even bothering to apply.

          Now we have to rely on these utter fucking imbeciles to make sensible adult decisions. People who were so fucking thick they couldn’t get decent ‘A’ Level results trying to kid on that they’re uniquely qualified to tell us how to live our lives.

          It’s not a meritocracy. It’s a fucking idiotocracy.


          • Call me Chillax says:

            cun*tocracy actually


          • Another Engineer says:

            I believe he go in under a scheme for inner London comprehensive students, supposedly set up for those from poor backgrounds.

            Mind you, you were allowed in with EE if you could pass the entrance exam.


          • jgm2 says:

            Aye. You were allowed in with EE if you passed the entrance exam. An ‘unconditional offer’ I believe they used to call it. But we were told they didn’t let folk who who were actually only likely to get EE pass the entrance exam. Except for Polly Tuscany who apparently got in with a single E.

            And then dropped out after a year. Too tedious for somebody of her crushing intellect no doubt.

            But the Miliband’s worked the system all right. Presented themselves as working-class bog-standard inner city comprehensive kids while being hot-housed in left-wing fuckwittery at home.


          • a non says:

            Who you know and not what you know has always, and probably still does apply to many. Medical school acceptance was/ is the same.
            Entry grades together with family ties or sheer luck may have been pathetic in Chemistry Physics, Biology /Zoology but then most of us ended up A.A. in the end to compensate for our sins.


          • 21 st Century Fuckwit man says:

            Its the ” great fuckwittery” of the early 21 st century !


  9. 13
    gramma says:

    A lttle lamb trying to pretend he is mutton.
    Who are ewe trying to kid Ed?


  10. 14
    Not surprised says:

    O/T why are some comments flagged “Awaiting Moderation” and not others?


  11. 16
    Baroness Warsi says:

    This whole Leveson inquiry is a Zio-nist plot !


  12. 20
    Where's the Green Lamp that Gordon Had? says:

    So Ed’s the reason we don’t have a Nuclear reactor replacement program. He took the decisions


    • 69
      Ivor Tapeworm says:

      And how many will die as a result, due to contractors working at height installing solar panels on houses?

      A lot more than would do from nuclear power.


      • 86
        jgm2 says:

        And how much money will be wasted on these comedy panels and the insane pr*i*ce of electricity that has been offered to folk in order to encourage them to instal the fucking things?

        Enough money to build a nuclear power station by the time their guaranteed 25-year 1000% of ma*rk*et cost electricity deal expires?



        • 106
          Sir Aston Martin says:


          You are finally catching on! We are trapped in some nightmarish alternative reality where certifiable cretins are in charge …


  13. 22
    Loungelizard says:

    The Leveson inquiry has provided an excellent stage for the left to rewrite history and put the right on trial for the left’s inadequacies during their period in government.


  14. 23
    Jimmy says:

    “He’s the boss”

    You may want to ask someone to explain to you how a barristers’ chambers works.


  15. 25
    Double Standards says:

    It’s ok when they do it.


  16. 26
    Spank Sinatra says:

    I’m no convinced that we should be overly concerned about the conflict of interest. I have never heard DeadEd say anything of consequence. 25 minutes in and I’m bailing out. I’d rather listen to the noise of fingernails running down on a chalkboard. He’s such a lightweight!


  17. 31
    Anonymous says:

    Barristers in private practice are in independent practice. Members of Chambers are not other members’ bosses and are not responsible to or for them or their work.

    There is no conflict of interst.


    • 41
      Anonymous says:

      They do talk to each other, though. And could well be friends.

      There is ‘at least’ a perceived conflict of interest, and that is enough. It’s not as if there is only 1 barrister qualified to ask these questions.


      • 54
        Chinese Walls says:

        S’true. She could easily have asked Mr J to go easy on her Ed.


        • 55
          Anonymous says:

          That is not a complete definition of conflict of interest.


          • 21 st Century Fuckwit man says:

            There can never be a conflict of interests between any two lawyers after all they are all in it for the money. Total harmony of interests I would say.


  18. 32
    Where's the Green Lamp that Gordon Had? says:

    But if Mr Jay was Sam Cam’s boss then he would be a purveyor of handbags



    • 143
      21 st Century Fuckwit man says:

      Is that lamp related to the one which used to sit on the top of Gilbert O’Sullivans piano ?


  19. 38
    Call me Chillax says:

    Conflict of interest? Would never happen on my watch.

    Isn’t that right Nancy?



  20. 45
    Wonk and his Shonk says:

    The lighting Technician of the Leveson show has been rather unkind to Ed. He looks more like Wallace than ever. I suppose they are trying to achieve the natural look.


  21. 46
    going down the pan says:

    Why do this govenment need to hold a referendum on the political status of the Falkland islands
    The country is buggered and they think a referendum on the Falklands is needed
    Won’t bloody give us one though


    • 57
      Sheep-boffer (retd.) South Georgia says:

      You may need the Falklanders to bail out your poxy country one day.


    • 73
      AC1 says:

      What the difference between the Falklands and Britain?
      the Falklands are a Island located next to an imploding marxian economy.


      OK the only difference is that the Falkland’s are getting a referendum where they’ll reject the marxists and Britain isn’t…


    • 83
      Gonk says:

      Because they’re not brave enough to tell the Argies to fuck off without a bit of cover.


  22. 56
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    At one point, Ed M tells Jay (paraphrasing) that as a SpAd, he could treat the press with somewhat more informality than he could do later as a Minister, and now that he is in Opposition, the more measured approach has had to be carried over owing to his position as Leader, and he must be just as careful in what he says as if he were in Government.

    Just imagine the fun all the people on this blog would have had if he’d used the word “circumspect.”


  23. 58
    The Ruling Class can Kiss my Arse says:

    All their snouts are in the same bloody trough, – no matter where the swill comes from!

    Fuck them!!! Thoroughly, regularly, and with vigour.


    • 76
      Ruling Classmate says:

      Thanks for your best wishes. Fucking for most people is more enjoying than any other human activity.


  24. 59
    J closes down says:

    So why did J just back off the McBride and Brown subject when it was about to get very interesting? Ed looked ready to spill the bans.


  25. 63
    Labour Leveson says:

    Trust Cameron to set up an inquiry that’s basically a Labour love-in.


  26. 65
    Blowbangs says:

    Great Louis Theroux documentary last night about the American porn industry. Some of the titles were hilarious. Dr Butts 3: The Anal Asylum is probably a favourite of Richard Timney’s.


    • 84
      dirk diggler says:

      Not known for my attention span, I recently watched Boogie Nights for the first time. Funniest fucking film I’ve seen in ages. I highly ♥♥ this for anyone who hasn’t seen it.


    • 157
      Sarah Smith says:

      This month’s Playboy is very interesting. There is a letter there from Jacqui Smith asking whether it is normal for heterosexual wimmin to watch gay porn just like the best home secretary ever claimed on her expenses.


  27. 67
    Double act says:

    This is so odd. Mr J asks Ed a question and Ed replies by asking Ed a question and answers his own question.


  28. 71
    Norman Smith says:

    I must say I think Milipede is coming across really well. I wonder what Ross thinks.


  29. 72
    BBC joins in muslim propaganda effort says:

    The BBC is making a new sitcom all about a funny cuddly Pàkistani muslim family that will show them all in a nice, lovable light. It’s called Citizen Khan – oh what a hilarious title! – and promises not to tackle awkward subjects like female genital mutilation, honour killings, suicide bombers and forced marriages. It’ll be wholesome family viewing that no doubt will feature the characters making hilariously “harmless” jokes about the British and their sinful way of life. Oh, how we’ll laugh! And we’re paying for it too through the licence fee!


    • 87
      will says:

      On the BBC news last night this enquiry was the first news item, meanwhile in the rest of the country loads of householders were being flooded out and losing thier business and it was about item 4 on the news. Talk about priorities. and the politicians worry why people are not voting for them.

      Newsflash nobody outside of westminster gives a F**K about phonehacking especially if some thick MP cant be bothered to change thier pin code from 1111 or 1234. This is now turning into a lawyers payday, i hold no favour for murdoch but this is like the salam witch trial.


      • 131
        Westminster Wankfest Bubble says:

        Indeed and with Europe teetering on the edge of the biggest economic cluster-fuck mankind has ever seen and they prattling on and on about fucking phone hacking and their latest multicult brainwashing bullshit they’ve come up with.

        No fucking idea whatsoever, they all live in cloud cuckoo land.

        By the way. William Hill has cut its odds for a Spanish exit from the eurozone this year from 10/1 to 5/1. It’s also shortened the odds on it being the first country to leave the eurozone from 7/1 to 4/1.


    • 92
      @OnRitalin says:

      Haha Kay Burley just said we’ve been hearing evidence from Dave Miliband before ad break


  30. 82
    tube_thumper says:

    It is beyond belief that Jay is cross examining Milliband. His wife works for him ffs!

    What a waste of money and a joke


    • 89
      will says:

      the whole thing is a waste of money to enrich lawyers and waste time. We have the biggest issue of banks collapsing and we are worried about conversations over 5 years ago.


  31. 85
    tube_thumper says:

    Did amyone see Alan Hansen on BBC last night

    what a fatuous bring twot. why a sweaty on english football anyway. I wonder how many englishmen opining on scots channels about their football


    • 105
      Ah! Monika says:

      Leave him alone, he has to travel all the way back home by taxi. ( yup Liverpool). And yup, you’re paying for it.


    • 114
      Has Been says:



  32. 90
    Legal Crook says:

    Mr Jay a little while ago backed off asking, after Miliband said he complained to Brown about McBride. They do not want to investigate if Brown was telling the truth.


  33. 91
    Gromit says:

    Has anyone seen ED Wallace? He put on the wrong nose when he rushed out this morning


  34. 93
    MET Spokesperson says:

    O/T but could solve the Hosepipe Ban.

    Just reaised that up North they get rain in inches, where down South we get it in millilitres.



  35. 97
    Whoops says:

    The spanish PM is looking rather daft now. Spanish borrowing has just reached the highest it’s ever been since joining the Euro. Only two days ago he said it was a good day for Spain and the Euro


    • 104
      troubles ahead says:

      Stand by for trouble then. The oldest trick in the book when a politician has a crisis at home is to pick a fight with a foreign enemy to distract the people. In this case it will be Britain over Gibraltar, same as the Argentine over the Falklands.


    • 107
      Anonymous says:

      Depends how you look at it, I suppose.

      Anyway, it’s good to hear they’ve sorted it all out (again). Except for where the money is coming from.


  36. 98
    Tower Hamlets voter says:

    Yet again Guido why is that you post this info and conservative central party office apparently cannot be arsed?

    I think it’s because those masquarading as Tories are too busy stuffing crap like “Gay Marriange” down our throats (so to speak. And why are they diong that? No one gives a toss (least of all the gays I know about “marriage”. But those hell bnt on an EU Superstate need to exploit every opportunity to undermine our Constitution : Church Crown Parliament


    • 113
      jgm2 says:

      It is indeed a big story. Although barristers are technically self-employed they join chambers to benefit from the shared infrastructure, office costs, secretarial cover etc etc. So, naturally, your partners will want you to be ‘one of us’.

      The news that Miliband’s missus is from the same chambers is fucking dynamite.

      Or it would be if the shoe was on the other foot and some right-wing barrister was sticking the boot into the Maximum Imbecile and bowling underarm to Cameron.

      The bedwetters make a lot of mileage whining about ‘Flashman’ but compared to Labour he really he needs to learn about how to stick the boot in. Can you imagine what Mandelson and Campbell and the Grauniad would be doing with this if the shoe were on the other foot?


  37. 99
    Sebastian Coe says:

    Leveson Inquiry to be moved to my Opening Ceremony. We will give billions a good laugh.


  38. 101
    Nan Taylor says:

    Miliband is the cum his mother should have swallowed.


  39. 115
    Fake Blood says:

    “Internet organisations”, “clearly an issue”.

    Don’t ask for who the Labour wankers toll?
    They toll for thee, Guido.

    So by “freedom of the press” the little shit means the opposite.


  40. 126
    Tom Tomos says:

    Come on Guido, haven’t you been watching ‘Silk’? We all know that the real boss of chambers is always the barrow-boy clerk.


  41. 137
    going down the pan says:

    Why was Millitwat there in the first place ?
    He’s not involved in this at all
    He must have felt he was being left out
    Now we have another nobody who has nowt to do with it
    Harriet Halfman
    Just another photo opp


  42. 138
    Owain Glyndwr says:

    This stinks are you really trying to tell me that jay and the millibands do not socialise etc.


  43. 152
    Colin says:

    It’s not a law firm, he’s not her boss, neither are they partners. There is no conflict of interest (a phrase which has an actual meaning, not just whatever you want it to mean).

    Apart from those minor points, an entirely accurate story…


  44. 153
    Ed Milliband says:

    wuvs I good? wobert jay pomised noth to well on my evithence tfhat I new McBridth wvas vunt andth Mcthmental wvas a lier.


    • 154
      Robert Jay QC says:

      I am under strict instructions to quickly move on should any evidence be found of Labour’s rule breaking, lying, bullying, illegal activities and close relations with the press. Please do not expect any thorough probing of Labour….except Justine during my lunch break


  45. 156
    qwerty says:


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