Over 5,000 of you took part in Douglas Carswell’s open-sourced Private Members Bill poll, and the results are in:
There was a clear winner:
4. Repeal of the European Communities Bill: Britain joined the European Economic Community in 1973. It has turned out to be an economic and political disaster. This Bill will get us out.
Carswell will now write up the Bill and present it to the House. Go on Dave, you know you want to…
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Andrew Pierce on Ed Balls…
“Porky Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls sweet-talked guests at a fund-raising dinner by saying if he wasn’t a politician, he would be a chef. That’s not surprising, since he was accused of cooking the Treasury books when he was Gordon Brown’s boot boy.”
is there anyone in the world that Tony hasnt screwed in some way?
Yay!!!!
Well done readers
Gettin there !
Another anti EU message for Dave and chums to completely ignore.
Yep,don’t hold you’re breath
Dave knows you all really want gay marriage.
Isn’t the reality that it’s Calamity Clegg who’s pushing for gay ‘marriage’ ?
(Dave’s still a useless twat though.)
Go Andy! Dave says you’re very dishy!
I’ve got £5 with Paddy Power on Andy Murray for the Grand Slam, England to win the Euros and Bill!e Hague to be outed as a hetero.
Yes, do not hold, you are breath.
6. M.P.’s required to have at least partially symmetrical facial features.
I voted for the great repeal. Which I expected would have repealed this one but also all the daft laws that Labour brought in.
Hear hear. Use the brain and not the emotions.
Thats not a bill – its a f**king career for someone
Correct, EU will be unrecognisable by the end of the decade, regardless of what we do right now, great repeal was the logical choice.
Well done readers we now know that UKIP are trolling this site!
Here’s the latest considered opinion on the Jubilee from Silly Sally BerCOW.
Sally Bercow@SallyBercow. Underwhelmed by flotilla, detested bunting, despaired at mindless, flag-waving loons. But otherwise all good
So the public that provide her with her lifestyle are flag-waving loons.
Time to fuck-off Sally and take hubby with you.
+ several million.
So she despises it all but can’t quite bring herself to stand up and be counted.
Broadcasting your sentiments on twitter isn’t the same as boycotting the ceremonies.
Perhaps she should have taken part in the flotilla, bobbing downstream with her pikey toyboy in a chrome covered caravan and transit van with Irish number plates, displaying a mobile phone number for drive tarmacing, all endorsed by ed millitwat.
don’t think my last will beat the censors……
I don’t think old smelly knickers had room to ply her trade, and that’s what’s really pissed her off. Never mind Sal, you’ll be able to wind yourself in that grubby sheet of yours now and go down the old docks to e*.r.n a few bob.
https://twitter.com/PennyRed/status/210459120405450752
Thanks Guido / Douglas.
Agreed. The challenge now is to take this matter forward into the realm of action. We on here are beginning to remind me of the old left: always rehearsing the grievances but never, ever, doing anything effective (and thank God for it, in their case).
It will take time, but it seems to me that the best way forward is:-
1. Massive defections from the Tories to UKIP at every election. This will lead to a temporary Labour govt – that’s just the price we’ll have to pay.
2. An earthquake in the Tory party will result, causing the welcome fall of CallMeDave. The party will then abandon pragmatism/PR and adopt principle and be swept to power.
3. The new govt’s first actions will be: repeal of all NuLab’s laws (which will strip out the extra 1m public servants they took on) and repeal of the European Communities Act.
4. UK then enters broad, sunlit uplands, based on similar levels of trade between us and the EU, but greatly enhanced business with the BRICs. Maybe we even join ASEAN?
A boy can dream…
Bit of a waste that. Both the Great Repeal bill and the EC Repeal bill are so outlandishly radical they probably won’t even be taken seriously.
Competing Currencies would have had even less chance. Sound currency would force budget responsibility and no-one in Westminster wants that. The Great Repeal Bill might have passed in the Commons, but would then have been overruled by Europe.
You forgot to mention he was 20th on the ballot.
The words “pissing” and “wind” spring to mind. So long as it keeps him happy I suppose.
A total fecking waste of time.
Er, yes. He’s 20th, and last. No chance.
He’s a right knob-end.
Better to fight against wrong, even if you lose, than to sit on your arse making sarcastic remarks.
+1.
I don’t see that the two activities are mutually exclusive.
Both being specialties of yours Jimmy.
They’re not if you’re a hypocrite.
Oh yes +100
One day Jimmy you will have to accept the will of the British people to have a say on the EU.
You cannot keep on stuffing the country full of foreignors, giving them passports & voting rights in the vain hope that in 20 years time you could win the popular referendum ballot.
You fanatical, extremist Europhiles are out of time – & we the indigenous British are out of patience.
If only there were some mechanism by which the people were allowed to choose their government.
Tweedle dum in the pro EU Blue corner, tweedle dumber in the pro EU Red corner.
Great choice.
Two parties stood on an anti-EU platform last time out. They got 5% between them.
People are just dumb aren’t they Jimmy? The Irish have just behaved like turkeys voting for Xmas when they could have done an Iceland and saved themselves years of being serfs to the EU nightmare. Che sera etc.
This is why we should elect cabinet positions. So parties and their loyal bitches can’t dishonestly pretend that when we vote for them on the economy, that means they have a popular mandate to do all the unpopular shit that was bundled with it.
Pfff… I’d expect it to be larger than 5% next time round when Eurogeddon has finished with the populations. You’ve to remember they don’t usually stand in all the seats and are sidelined and attacked by the MSM shills who love to draw the public in to red team blue team tactical voting too.
There’s never any shortage of elaborate explanations as to why people who really support you don’t actually vote for you.
What excuses did you make, Jimmy, when UKIP beat the highly financed and highly publicised Labour and Lib Dems in the last MEP elections?
Conservative 4,198,394
UK Independence Party 2,498,226
Labour 2,381,760
Liberal Democrats 2,080,613
More people care about who wins Eurovision than who goes to Strasbourg. Voters will always let off steam voting for nutters like Griffin and Farage provided they don’t think the election matters.
Yeah that’s it Jimmy, just call all of my four lines of text ‘elaborate’ and ignore the points made.
Unfortunately Jimmy, you may be right.
It’s a sad reflection of the British people, but it does seem that the LibLabCon Party can treat them like sheep and they respond accordingly.
Well one could not accuse Jimmy of giving an elaborate explanation for Labour’s and the Lib-Dems trouncing in the MEP elections, just a pathetic one. The problem with the Pro-EU loons and fruit-loops is that they have been proved wrong by events, as anyone with any intelligence (such as the Norwegians and the Swiss) could have foreseen long ago. The creation of the Euro, made possible only by the existence of the EU, has so far been the biggest man-made disaster in Europe (and possibly even the world) since WW2. And we haven’t reached the climax yet. It’s enough to make a sane person shiver.
The Pro-EU idiots though are still in denial of the facts.
“More people care about who wins Eurovision than who goes to Strasbourg.”
That must explain why Labour got in three times under Blair and the LibDems into a coalition government. Fuck the moronic Brits.
Surely UKIP simply need to ensure their other policies are just as appealing to the British public?
They are
I’d prefer a dozen AS90′s parked on the cliffs of Dover.
I’d love a big weapon to fire into my English channel!
Or up the Amazon estuary
Back from being Bilderbuggered already ?
Sorry mate but the AS90 is a piece of shit. As is most of the stuff supplied to the UK armed forces by BAe. And don’t get me started on all the Euro-crap that we have been involved in.
Try nuclear tipped tomahawk missiles instead, for when you really want to reach out and touch somebody.
And an MLRS for good measure!
Sorry mate but the AS90 is a piece of shit.
Try nuclear tipped tomahawk missiles instead, for when you really want to reach out and touch somebody.
This double posting lark is a real bloody nightmare.
Yawn….will not happen
It may when Eurozone becomes a single country and we will then have a chance to say what we think of our relation to it, which would be very interesting.
There’s little doubt that a sort of Federal system is now seen in Brussels as 1) a way to ease the financial strain and 2) what they wanted all along.
1957 Treaty of Rome. EEC will be a bulwark against communism and the ultimate aim is to become one country. I remember being taught all this at school in 1983 by a geography teacher who was also a member of the Labour Party. As a tory I disagreed with the Conservative policy of staying in the EEC. As a communist (well, all of those so called socialists are the same) he disagreed with Labour’s policy of leaving the EEC, which I thought was their only sensible policy.
Oh yes , shame that you exist innit?
it’ll be a cold day in hell before any of the leaders of any party back this:
nick clegg’s pension depends on it for one
dave’s wannabe pension depends on it
milliband hasn’t got the bottle
which is stupid as any one of them backing it would probably walk the election in 2015 – or the day after it becoming law
Disaster and complete waste of time.
The Repeal Bill contained most of the head bangers grievances and is actually possible. DC and DH have already worked out a lot of the detail in The Plan.
But this…
will be ignored and shot down.
The Repeal Bill could’ve been passed more or less intact and would’ve been far greater in changing the course of history in how this country is run.
It was noticeable that the more intelligent posters here and at CH wanted the Repeal Bill and only the fruitcakes from Ukkippers-r-us.
What a waste of an opportunity.
So you dont support the idea of democracy then !
Except the repeal bill is worthless so long as we are in the EU and are signed up to ever closer integration.
The repeal bill will be tinkering at the edges at best.
Only fruitcases, nutters, traitors and EU lovers (who by definition want to destroy the nation state of the UK) would be against the Repeal of the European Communities Bill.
+ 1
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-06-06/real-reason-eu-implementing-border-and-capital-controls
Yes, that’s me
Agree. We’ll have to content ourselves with the small mercy that the tide is inexorably turning against the ghastly bbc.
Mark this weekend down as the point when mainstream opinion woke up to the fact that we shouldn’t be forced to pay for a body that has an agenda of its own which is increasingly out of step with much of society.
Mainstream opinion can do whatever it wants. It will be ignored as usual. Has Cameron tried to move the BBC towards a subscription model? The technology exists for it. Has he tried to stop all the public sector recruitment ads from going to the Guardian? He could easily do that.
Certainly the moment when people realised that the Beeb as a solid, reliable and serious broadcaster was a thing of the past.
Alas, its bias isn’t yet recognised generally enough, but its dumbing down is beginning to be apparent even to those who have been dumbed down, which is rather remarkable.
Viewers I know who have always been loyal to the BBC have finally woken up this weekend and realised that it’s coverage of the Jubilee was appalling.
Tardkiller, from a legal perspective you are wrong.
The Repeal Bill can only repeal what is already established by legislation. Most of that will be EU legislation, via EU directives. It cannot be repealed by our parliament which is no longer sovereign – or hadn’t you noticed ?
The only way to give effect to such a Repeal Bill is to eliminate the source of the existing repugnant legislation. That means eliminating the not only the source but the mechanisms of enforcing the legislation. Once that is achieved, repeals can be effected.
You must be very proud to be one of the ‘more intelligent posters’, you arrogant twat.
No harm in hoping I suppose, despite the likely outcome being one big fat zero.
That`s not how you do a pie chart!
You right-wing Nazis are so stupid.
Who mentioned pie ??
Anybody want to give me a cream pie?
I’d like to put my rifle up your backside and fire. And that’s not innuendo. They don’t like it up ‘em!
Yes it’s blindingly obvious that a genuine Pie chart would have had a picture of John Prescott in the middle with segments: 48.2% Lard, 33.1% methane and 9.8% tripe, (and more pastry around the outside).
Don’t forget me!
No pies for me, then…
Let me re-phrase that: Not that I don’t want any, it’s just that with His Lordship and the Rt Hon Minister, there won’t BE any pies for me, then.
(That goes for you too, Diane; say, do you still have any of, you know, the stuff that Guido censors?)
No one could forget Pickles with pork pie!
Must be some mistake shorely, I think we should give the p8ople another go at that one, and anyway it’s not a representative poll and even if it was long since that Vox Populi influenced Government policy.
This is an outrage ! Tell Cameron I will not allow this !!
David Icke has more gravitas and general support in the country than you Clegg!
This Bill will never see the light of day but it’s a useful tool to keep the pressure on all three leaders but especially Cameron to hold that In/Out Referendum this year…..with the Eurozone imploding before our eyes whilst Germany refuses to act or proposes a closer political federation makes a referendum almost inevitable…probably even this year as matters are progressing very quickly….only Germany can save the euro now but the political will is not there…..Merckel dare not face down her elecorate who simply will not agree to be the paymaster for the Eurozone countries such as Greece who the majority of Germans regard as total wastrels and shirkers
What a surprise, the anti-EU loons win the day instead of something sensible.
Were you railing about the Anti-Euro “loons” before it imploded against all your predictions?
The Houses of Parliament have to regain sovereignty before they can do anything. People who are too stupid to see this call those who can “Anti-EU loons”.
Why is it loony to oppose the EU? Since when did advocating freedom make one mad?
Who’d want to be free when we’ve great men like Tony Blair, John Prescott, Gordon Brown, David Cameron and Nick Clegg to lead us? Just follow the instructions, apply the lubrication as directed and relax, you’ll get to like it eventually.
Unfortunately, the persons you name, are all just errand boys for Brussels.
All of them signed up corporatist “progressives” without an ounce of shame for the enfeebled province they have turned this country into and ironically, not an ounce of remorse for selling us out for their own self interest. Brown was right about one thing however, it’s definitely in their collectivist DNA.
Very True
Devastating EUSSR austerity!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/europes-terrifying-austerity
It’s almost like the “growth” was all a mirage caused by exponential state borrowing!?
A giant Europonzi scheme.
What was the turnout? A % figure doesn’t really tell the whole story if only 10 people repsonded.
“Over 5,000 of you took part in Douglas Carswell’s open-sourced Private Members Bill poll, and the results are in:”
Didn’t see that bit, I was too overwhelmed by the “no-expense spared” Info Graphic.
“Over 5,000 of you took part…”
It’s difficult to get 48.2% from 10 people?
Not for Mark Serwotka, he would get 99.9% from 10 people.
Don’t the unions still do that “I’ve got 5,000 members so whatever I decide that’s 5000 votes for it” business?
In the States a Scott Walker just “Thatchered” the School teacha union.
5,000 is a very respectable sample, many ‘opinions’ trumpeted in the MSM on samples of just 1,000, difference being the target audience economic, demographic etc,etc. But pretty damn sure anyway that the vast majority of the people in this country want to see the back of the EU, at the very least in its present form.
It didn’t get 50%. You need to hold another round with the two lowest dropped out.
Where do think you are? Egypt?
It is a logical choice – as the other things can not really be done if the United Kingdom stays in the European Union.
As for the Bill not passing….
Not the point – the Bill will show which Members of Parliament are really in favour of British independence, and which are just “reform the E.U. from within” windbags.
20th place means he’ll be able to read out the title and that’s about it. There won’t be any significant debate on it.
Keep your chin up Carswell.
I think there should be a comma in there somewhere…
Chin not tongue
Reading the comments I am reminded of this, from Banksy:
http://www.banksy.co.uk/shop/images/shop%20large/MonkeyP.jpg
The Rt Hon Chimp– Abba dabba dabba, in Chimpanzee, means Monkey, I love you.
The Rt Hon Monkey– Abba dabba dabba, in Monkey talk, means Chimp, I love you, too.
(Then the Big Baboon, one night in June, married them, and very soon, they went off on their Abba Dabba Honeymoon.)
Tell that public schoolboy trustfunder to fuck off, he’s about as radical as Dave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqgXzPfAxjo
Co-conspirators
While Guido is twittering on about a bill that will not pass and not be enforced even if it is passed
Just have a look at this
http://fightthefraud.com/tag/barclays-plc/
The f r a u d s t e r s at Barclays face a legal mountain
http://www.efinancialnews.com/story/2012-03-12/barclays-annual-report-legal-proceedings
3 Barclays bankers have just been indicted for tax evasion also
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financial-crime/9312439/Barclays-staff-and-top-Italian-banker-Alessandro-Profumo-on-trial-over-tax-fraud.html
After their other multiple fines, money laundering etc
Their banking liçcense should be withdrawn
Are you threatened by the bankers if you publish the truth Guido?
If so, they are criminals as we all know
Why this censorship on this of all blogs?
i go into my bank, yes, that one. i’ve got £300 odd in there. i take out £270 and go away. a few days later i go to the cash machine and (try to) take out £10. but like, woah! there’s no money in my account! hang on! i’m £300 or something overdrawn! and not only that, i’m being charged £30 for being overdrawn! but… i don’t have an overdraft! specifically insisted on NOT HAVING AN OVERDRAFT.
and where did all that money go?
and where’s this bullshit leading?
well, i have to stand there telling my idiotic story to various disinterested “members” of staff who are clearly thinking “poor old bastard, he’s no idea what he’s talking about, does anyone know how can i get rid of him?”
eventually someone does a bit of poking around and somehow discovers that the cashier removed that original £270 twice, giving me the £270 i asked for and putting the other £270 (christ knows where that went) onto my non existent overdraft, then charged me £30 for being such a naughty boy.
thanks barclays!! i’ve got plenty of other weird and pointless barclay’s stories if anyone’s interested! barclays certainly were not! well, my darlings, i’ve sussed you out! in fact, i’ve sussed it all out! rant…rave…blither…
“Uninterested”, not “disinterested”.
Meanwhile, in Brooklyn NY, USA, Barclays are the title sponsors of a brand-new sports-and-concert arena with a Russian oligarch, Mikhail Dmitrevich Prokhorov, as owner. Something tells me there’s a lot more to this than watching basketball games and Justin Bieber concerts. Perhaps Tovarich Handycock knows something about Prokhorov he would like to share with us?
They will probably turn it into a casino
That way they can punt all our money in the casino rather than in worthless securities
And their share price only down 75% over five years
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=BARC.L&t=5y
Surely a good reason to vote against independence for Scotland
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-18344559
Scottish independence: Al Fayed would apply for Scots passport
We, the Jocks, would flog his a passport to him without any second thoughts
And think that we have “made it” having the EX owner of Harrods as a citizen
Then Salmond would no longer be the greatest bullshitter in Scotland.
Anything to get him out of England will get my vote.
Mr Draghi is no doubt a very able and intelligent head of ECB , he says his inflation forcasts have been good and he wasnt shy of presenting growth (noting it is an aggregate , and perhaps a country by country breakdown would pose the more interesting questions) . As perhaps he was at pains to point he is not a political policy maker , he cannot legislate finance , which is perhaps the accepted the role of most sovereign or area banking heads . Quite a few expected a rate cut , but it must be fairly obvious that the 1% rate isnt producing growth , so how would 0.5 % make that bigger difference ?
No quid pro quo for Ireland , as that would mean quid pro quo for everyone else .
There was this sort of , determining the signals aspects , but then I was none the wiser on what signals invoke certain actions , nothing on spanish bank scenario . The bit on post presentations questions that I thought was interesting was when the normally cool and confident tones of Mr Draghi got fractured on soros 3 months left question , he didnt really bat it away in other language than , the underestimation of political resolve … mmmm well political resolve is all well and good , even if its resolve to do nothing until it just tears itself apart .
But now it swings to Eurozone political leaders , yet again supposedly at the end of the month , which means more trouble for liquidty in peripherals .
There are no minutes , no record of votes for ECB meetings again talk of making an EU presidence , fiscal union legislation is the politics just ambling along , hoping for what exactly ?? The truth remains in sorting out the economic differentials not wether you have a president , you have to make 1 ton of olives worth the same as 1 ton of manufactured import , and same wage rates and terms ….. is that not full union , that or pay a subsidy for differential even when you have equalised certain aspects which is how the USA currency works , with a market in state jobs , which in the EU is more fixed .
If our EU leaders are staring at the fiscal union complexity , while the financial crisis just snowballs into a sieszure of lending , then how can there be confidence in them , No plan , not even it seems at an aid level , despite the fear harming some of the countries even more and revenues dissappearing away from banks . I mean wouldnt some action have at least spared further banking deteriorations ?
Basically to me it boils down to either explaining what of % subsidy you are going to need to make the eurozone work , to the countries that dont have franco german type economies , if you cant do that then you need different currencies and within that running said economies more in way that suites there particular ecnomic activities or strengths , hopefully well run .
Eurobonds perhaps have some debt solutions , but then even if you get some better growth through reducing debts , if the inter zone trade differentials are still a problem, you wont be able to cap them , and just kick the debt can into a larger space to be filled a few years hence .
This question of explaining how it will ever work to me is the most urgently expected demand that should be placed at the EU leaders to answer , shouldnt we know rather than be guessing if the crisi will crystalise into somthing that is half baked .
To much to read there,sound bites only please
He only writes it for his own benefit anyway.
He? It’s a computer program.
Think he’s a she.
A female computer programme?
yeah
A ‘wether’, I seem to remember, is a castrated sheep, a most appropriate term for members of the Euro pons scheme especially M. Draghi.
I’d like a Bill to say all Bills are binding and cannot be talked out. In that way we might actually get a decent attendance and debates for Bills that people want put into law
I’d like a Bill to see the UK enter the spacerace! We may not be the first to the moon, but I can think of several Brits I’d like to see on a moonbase, with or without oxygen.
Creaming in the sheep,Creaming in the sheep…what do we do before we sleep,we cream in all the sheep.
Well, you are Welsh.
A very stupid choice as it will never happen. May as well have chosen something with hope
Not entirely, I think. One has to keep bringing these things up so that they can pass through the consecutive phases of being stupid and risible, extremist and impractical, nice-idea-but-not-for-now and finally well-I-was-in-favour-all-along. These things can take a very long time because most people are like wasps trying to find the open part of a window when it comes to changing their behaviour.
What a good idea !
Tonight I will be a wasp
A bit like, it’s difficult now to find any one who was actually in favour of the Euro.
What a total waste of a bill, instead of harking on and pining for a Britain which never really existed he should of put up a progressive and intelligent idea, like banning unions from making political donations, or removing all the relig from the Lords.
He doesn’t have a chance, anyway. So, he’s posturing.
Every voyage starts with the unfurling of the first sail.
Not a waste at all. I should have realised at the time that there was a good reason why Ted Heath called his yacht Morning Cloud. People on here like to bash Blair but imho Ted Heath was the real villain, at least Blair is a Conservative.
A Britain that never really existed?
A socialist revisionist version of history, does not make it history, it just makes it, another lie.
Dear Mrs C , sorry to be pedantic but please use ‘should have’ instead of ‘should of’
‘of’ is grammatically incorrect in this context.
It’s all thanks to Shirley Williams greatest achievment, Nell, a uniquely successful experiment in dumbing down the electorate, so that they barely know which way is up any more.
Apparently you are not sorry to be pedantic. Love the smugness though, similar to I’m not racist but…
As to a Brtain which didn’t exist, I am not talking about socialist revisionist history I am talking about the reality that you cannot dis-invent. Would it be nice to not know how to make chemical weapons? Yes of course but it is not possible. Similarly it is utterly childish to strop off and say we are not playing anymore! The damage has been done we now need to manoeuvre into a position of leadership so we can have better control over the masinations of the EU
Could Nellnewman please check that for spelling and grammar to fulfill her non-officious non-judgemental ya ya’s
”Machinations’
It’s not THAT difficult………..
Get your Gordon Brown dog chew here!
http://www.feedem.co.uk/images/products/zoom/1288530593-03687500.jpg
That was my first choice – out of the EU …
First action after that ? – the Great Reform Bill – with a 10% target – not reduced by 10% – reduced down to 10% of what is currently on the books
That’s the corect sequence. If we are still in the EU, the Great Reform Bill would not be passable.
Get out of the EU first, then we can start going back over the last 40 years of unnecessary legislation and remove them in priority order. But No.1 must always be getting out of the EU – that’s the ‘enabler’ for the rest.
Since it won’t even get a moment of parliamentary time for Second Reading – it will be at the end of a list of Bills for the Whip to shout Object to – this exercise was a complete waste of time.
But still, it was a bit of fun.
I disagree.
Bills like this are a perfect opportunity for the leader to do a party political claiming ‘I have heard what you all said. And lessons have been learned.’
Gordon used to do one a month.
Of course the main lesson politicians learn is ‘we are not getting our message across. Hire more spinners.’
I beg to differ, the message is coming across strong and clear from our politicians just as it always was, the message being FUCK YOU!
What Westminster needs is more bouncers – to keep the bastards out of the HoC and HoL in the first place.
Reckon Ted Heath was a socialist shirt lifter.
Is that like a sailors hornpipe
no a windjammer….one of bunter watson’s turds with a knot in it
Just like Gordon Brown.
Occasionally I pay my entrance fee to Salisbury Cathedral and dance on Heath’s grave whilst humming the National Anthem. Strangely I feel incredibly free after doing that.
A more accurate definition of Sailor Ted would be a ‘treacherous cassock-lifter’, given his preference for choir-boys, especially those from a couple of his local children’s homes who would be invited to accompany ‘Uncle Eddy’ on boat trips.
Just going down below to roger the cabin-boy……
It’s not unusual.
On the subject of the EU, having just come bacK from a couple of days in Amsterdam, I would like to say hey, look at that! Isn’t that just – wow? That’s so funny…..
Surely you’re not confusing the EU with Europe, Sir Bill ?
Great result but is it going to get us anywhere? Cameron will stop it, we should question Camerons ability to be PM. He refused to say when elected leader of the Conservative Party if he had used cannabis, I chose to believe he did,now we are almost sure in which case it is now a proven medical fact that to use cannabis can cause mental problems in later life at some stage. We all know about Camerons poor decision making (u turns) poor choice in personelwith the latest problem Baroness Warthog Warsi. Cameron is not fit for purpose and should be replaced quickly.
Nice proven fact with no legitimate scientific basis. Eutards show their spots
what a surprise. direct democracy results in nothing. eurosceptics should stfu and choose legitimate channels for their cause. no way this bill will get a fair hearing. should have chosen a real one
All Europhiles should be packed off to France, where they too can be blown to bits by a dozen AS90′s AND… A nuclear tipped Tomahawk missile.
5000 people and the biggest vote was for getting us out of the EU. No surprise there then!
Doesn’t really matter whether the bill gets anywhere this time , the EU is in terminal decline and I really think I shall see it’s end in my lifetime.
Agreed. Makes the eutard militancy even more pointless. And redundant
There is no fighting the inevitable. All things must come to an end eventually.
In the case of the ill-fated euro and the decaying eu it is simply going to be sooner rather than later.
nell, please explain how something could end when it didn’t even fully begin.
As a gardener I can only say that sometimes when a plant begins to develop when it hasn’t got enough root it develops early leaves and then suddenly dies.
cameron’s government has done exactly that.
Oh and forgot to say the eu and the euro have the same problem and are going the same way.
“Go on Dave, you know you want to…”
Come off it Guido, you know he doesn’t. This blog is getting more and more like a subsidiary of Conservative Home.
The way out of the EU? Simply rip up the treaties. The EU is an entity built on treaties and cemented with lies and deceptions, just a wall to be knocked down just like the Berlin wall. But our ruling class have a plan, they have always had a plan and no bill is going to derail it. Europe is ablaze from a series of fires deliberately started at the edges of Europe, this fire is designed to stampede the peoples of Europe into accepting full assimilation and direct rule from Brussels.
Each target region has been fatally weakened, their ability to survive on their own sabotaged and now the Brussels spider in the web simply has to wait until the poison takes effect and each region nicely wrapped up and waiting for consumption. The Euro was designed to fail, or appear to fail would be more accurate and the remedy is already being touted by a bought off MSM. More integration and more central control from Brussels, thats the reality.
The ugly kommissars in Brussels and their bought and paid for Vichy regimes have every reason to be confident, the fires are burning nicely, the peoples of the coming greater Europa are starting to suffer, well those parts needed to make an example to the others of what could happen IF. Those stupid mug regions offered up for sacrifice to ensure the core regions get the message and accept the ‘final solution’.
At the end of the day everything you are seeing in Europe is the culmination of years of careful preparatory work by the Brussels kommissars, the final push to get regions the regions to accept direct rule and a new nation born out of the fires they started. An ultra secretive state machinery that thrives on secrecy and corruption and deception by a selected cabal immune from electorates will, nothing more than a recreation of China or a perfection of the USSR system of governance.
The EU has spent a lot of time and effort in presenting a false fabricated façade it likes to show the world, but underneath the mask it is different beast altogether, it works like a Mafia family, its leaders were the Maoist/Marxist fanatics who worshipped at the alter of revolutionary world communism that hated everything about the Western system of democracy, leopards dont change their spots, the best they can do is dip themselves in the mud. The EUSSR, the reality will make you sick to your soul.
I suppose they wont do the EU cuts (est to save 33bn euros a year) to keep the propganda device going . I like the way it doesnt feel any need to answer any questions , that truly is the EUSSR .
Ray Bradbury has died at 91 author of farhenheit 451 , wonder if he ever thought he had given the EUSSR a manual …….
12 yeras since euro launched (before whoever if you include fatal Maastricht document I think Andrew Marr was editor on big independent piece at time ) and Mario eludes to EU soon having to visualise what the euro will be . I mean in terms of a how not to manual , they couldnt have done a better job with Euro .
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/greek-debt-crisis-how-goldman-sachs-helped-greece-to-mask-its-true-debt-a-676634.html
Welcome to the EUSSR, its the nightmare and its about to come true.
I doubt the Komissars have the brain power required to orchestrate such a foul and devious plot. What is more likely, is an overarching desire to answer every problem with more centralised control.
Dont underestimate them, whatever faults they have and there are many, stupidity is not one of them, they are some of the cleverest and most devious people around.
How about a Bill to remove Vaz from any public office during his lifetime?
Now there’s a dream . . . and his kid sister too, before she even attains office!
Whats all this blather about Warsi being some sort of victim of nasty party compared to Jeremy Hunt , Levenson has little to do with alledgly taking £168 a night accomodation expenses and not giving to anyone for said service .
I suspect cameron is trying to hang on to his current team until after the olympics when he will ditch both warsi and hunt. I trust we are also going to see the back of the very useless vincecable and maybe it’s time he moved osborne out of the chancellor’s job and gave it to someone else.
Perhaps Dave will fall on his sword after the Olympics and join Moral Collapse Blair in the Maldives
After organising a multimillion pound “retainer” from some bent bank of course
Sadly that is all too likely.
Oh and then I should have said , I hope, for us, that that is exactly what he does , so that we get shut of him and georgie porgie of course.
No idea who we can replace him with though. Think it’s a fair bet it won’t be militwit or any of the libdems.
i hope Douglas Carswell’s got a tough butt, because Dave’s got another three line whip on the way
Oooohhh lovely.
Interesting stat on Tom Keene “only 16% of USA school leavers from 2009,2010,2011 have a full time job ” funny that we had a similar picture emerging under labour in the UK , oh and the hidden est 5mn of working age not in employment “labour with you in the hard times that we created but fiddled the stats “
‘we fiddled the stats’
That is a very fitting tribute to the last, corrupt, failed labour government.
Whatever next, Willy Wowden is joining the Labour Party.
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Doubt it! I suspect even the much backstabbed gordon would think twice before he offered his support to the current labour party.
The Labour schools programme should have been called
Sure Start and Finish
sure starve
Nice to see the BBC back to promoting the Olympic yet again, but unlike the Jubilee no dissenting voices are allowed airtime.
If they found the new Charlemagne empire we may be kicked out anyway.
I wonder if the establishment panic and try to take us if somebody in a uniform will park a Chally on Horse Guards’……
Interesting times.
The EU was formed primarily by two governments, Germany and France. The Germans wanted a mechanism for controlling Europe without reverting to war again and the French wanted a mechanism for controlling Germany without reverting to war again. I think the Germans have pipped the froggies to the winning post, again. The rest of them joined because they were told it would make them rich and for a while it did, poor little PIGieS.
Putting the HQ in Brussels was of course a master stroke to keep from frightening the feeble minded down trodden masses of Euroland. It is after all only a 500 mile afternoon drive from Berlin to Brussels, should the need arise eventually, wait for it, wait for it.
The refusal by the Germans to give more cash to the PIGS only underlines the fact that they will bring the poor little PIGieS to heel. When the whole thing topples over, as it will, the big question is what will happen to the poor little PIGieS. Will they be freed to run around the farm yard selling cheap holidays again or will they be slaughtered?
You can ask Angela, but her masters haven’t told her yet.
Why?
Mestopholes …… too late you signed masstricht
Best described as an Instrument of Mass Destruction.
If the Olympics are on BBC, they’ll produce it as if it were a Blue Peter prorgamme with the vacuous Mat Baker and his rictous grim, clutching his knees like a school girl alongside ignorant bimbos as the presenters. Switch to Sky.
Clutching his kees and lifting his shirt you mean?
Are Beeboids sufficiently flexible to do both things at the same time?
Baker with his false northern accent. What a twat.
I haven’t watched Blue Peter since I was twelve. John Noakes was the dogs’ bollocks.
Shep never licked his bollocks.
Naive or what?
Which one of those stupid and profoundly ignorant BBC presenters on the Jubille River Pageant referred to Nelson at Waterloo? Where do they find them?
I suspect the beeb knew nothing about Nelson, Waterloo or the River Thames. They talked drivel about the Plantaganets and the Tudors so they knew nothing of History.
Then they asked someone waving a Canadian flag which country they came from so they knew nothing of Geography.
Anodyne Rubbish!
Even if we sold the beeb off nobody would want to buy it!!
I suspect the beeb knew nothing about Nelson, Waterloo or the River Thames. They talked drivel about the Plantaganets and the Tudors so they knew nothing of History.
Then they asked someone waving a Canadian flag which country they came from so they knew nothing of Geography.
Even if we sold the beeb off nobody would want to buy it!!
Digging on the beach at Hastings, no doubt. (That was one in the eye for Harold, though.)
What is needed is a Europ*ean Spring.
what is realy needed is a decent eurovision dong contest winner
Still a way to go before the EU realises their cabin on the Titanic is already below the waterline.
Not yet heard any one of them observe that their own uber-spending, uber-regulation and uber-control might have added to the burden now being carried by Europe’s citizens.
The ship may be holed; but the reason for the sinking is that the captain ordered just one, large bailout can, for his personal use.
This is brilliant! Exactly what MPs should be doing. Fancy asking the people what laws they want! We’re in danger of living in a democracy if this keeps up.
Am I the only person who feels that they are standing here in a political mist as cameron & osborne sinks slowly beneath the waves, militwit and his ilk ignominiously career off the nearest cliff and cable and huhne with their soggy libdems slide inconspicuously into the political quicksand.
It seems like we’re waiting for cometh the man or woman….moment. But I’ve no idea who it might be. And No! it isn’t going to be bliar!!
I don’t think anyone’s coming, Nell. And I don’t think anyone’s coming in the USA either. There have been times like this before, for example the last two centuries of the Roman empire — but history runs at a much faster pace now.
Too true Tachybaptus – but I hope you’re wrong.
Someone has to pick up the baton. Boris might manage it if he got himself a decent haircut and some gravitas!
I think it will take a bit more than a decent haircut and some gravitas nell and 1/2 or even 2/2 ain’t gonna swing it.
Well something’s gotta swing it sweetie or we are going to be without some CREDIBLE leaders ie leaders who can attract majority votes.
So what do you suggest?!
Two choices, put up with it or get out (requires funds).
I’m a great believer in cometh the hour cometh the man/woman.
What I shan’t be doing is transplanting the family to spain, italy, greece etc as they sink slowly into the oily euro sunset. Canada’s too cold. America is sinking into obama’s spendspendspend recession. And Australia is struggling under that labour welshwoman’s mad economic plans.
Best just sit it out and hope for the best! At least here, we have Her Maj!
Other times like this before, include, but are not limited to, Chamberlain, Heath, Blair, the seventies , Brown and Cromwell. In fact, it’s nearly always fucking like this, and it will still be like this next century.
The remedy is to re-empower the ordinary man, to earn and keep the fruits of his labour. After all, once he has earned, ordinary man will then spend, in the way he sees fit. If each brain in Europe had more freedom to plot its own course for survival, our economies would be far productive, and far more resilient.
Why not offer bailout cash direct to ordinary man? Ordinary man pays off mortgage with 2% bailout cash. House prices rise. Bank uses cash to pay down its debts, juggling derivatives along the way. Ordinary man has more cash to spend. Job done.
What a wast of virtual ink. This has been the plan for the last 60 years! it’s just started in the USA (may take time!!) NEW WORLD ORDER….
The EU Dictators are on the prowl to centralise their power.
Once a nation votes YES – that nation will never get the option to vote NO – it’s the true mark of a dictatorship.
The Roman Empire had that ‘no way out’ policy. Look what happened to them!!
The Western Empire had nearly 800 years of kicking ass and taking names. I really can’t be bothered with 800 years of the EU Empire, I’ll be bored as fuck by then.
No way this eu house of cards will last 800 years sweetie. It’ll be lucky top last another 800 days!
The euro is dead.
Well, the (German) Holy Roman Empire was a bit of a sham, lacking in every way compared to the kick ass mothos they robbed their name from. Much like today’s German empire building exercise.
They were overrun by the barbarians who ushered in 300 years of death, disease, ruin, starvation and poverty.
In retrospect we were better off with the Romans.
Are you talking about Britain after Blair and Labours open door immigration policy perchance?
Did a v good Fray Bentos pie & chips this evening from the excellent Mena’s corner shop ‘fucking crap’–
Average Labour Voter (@fuckingmug)
How to hold a secret plotting evening.
“Rather than try to hide a meeting, its better to disguise its purpose.
Hold secret coup planning meetings under the guise of book clubs, gambling nights or cookery classes. This is called hiding in plain view.
Excerpt from Tinker, Meddle, Fiddle, Lie. A guide to usurping the leadership.
By John le Carry On.
Short and sweet, unlike your time in government which was too long and too wasteful. Fuck off Balls you arsewipe slag.
Well, for some of us, any excuse to get soused.
was wondering if he was doing some sort of charades game based on stars in there eyes “tonight mathew I will be ………….”
Bet you pro.n.ou.nced. prune ‘pwoon’ didn’t you tw*.t face? Pwoooooon pudding !
Good for celebrating a run on the Greek banks.
1) Bolchevik Broadcasting Corporation,need to be rid of them.
2) Red Ed Nose,what an absolute union paid for tosser.
3)Ballsup another tosser who is clueless.
4)Warisee another expenses tosser.
5)Cammoron,the U turn king.
6) Gideon a chancellor,please don’t make me laugh.
7)BEEB coverage of the jubilee a disaster,despite what their coverage was,this was about BRITISH people coming together to celebrate their values,and to me long overdue.
The jubilee was the driving force but it was BRITISHNESS that won the day big time.
The BBC PC ASSHOLES did’nt understand what the British are all about.
Their coverage was to say the least CRAP/CRAP/CRAP.
Finally some particular peoples will not like my comments,and all i’ll say to you is Feck Off.
+1
This is sensational news,Guido !
Well done to all those who voted
Chicken Licken Cameron keeps telling us that the European Sky is falling down.
We know that FFS. Come up with a suggestion. Or shut up!
Douglas on Newsnight. Go go go
The BBC will stitch him up.
If Ming Cambell is the best the eussr can put up against Dan Hannan there is no need for DC’s bill, even with the b-bbc woman interupting Dan every 30 sec poor Ming had no credibility.
The eu is stuffed, kaput and should be put out of its misery before it does any more damage to the population of Spain and Greece.
Wooo Hoooo, news flash, a right wing blog wants out of Europe, won’t be long before there is a petition for bringing back capital punishment, hold on ……
Seems good to me. where do I sign?
OMG Presclott has gone blond.
Mmmm. Sadly, that’s going nowhere because everyone in Parliament, nearly, are such tools. I voted for the repeal bill because it seemed more likely to at least get considered.
Fuck
Shits like Cameron , Clegg and the tosser Miliband will never allow a referendum on EU membership.
There is no excuse for Tom Watson, he is a bully and a thug. He was an objectionable ignorant bastard at Uni and he has just got worse and worse over the years. I can’t wait for someone to catch him with his fingers in the till. Come the revolution, when I am made Queen of the World he is one for my list. Now should it be Siberia or Rhyl mmmm….
Whereas I am a show of corpulence by state elites, (*rimshot*).
I dont know about everyone else , but David Arronovitchs header in the times doesnt quite read right .
mmmm perhaps he has new autobiographical book in mind Dial J for jackass, must be forgetting those £10k a seat cocktail circuit fundraisers in the labour years , seem to recall he was one of main organisers .
If Dave walks into Berlin meeting and Van Rumpouy is stroking a white persian cat , just be cautious on the bridge over the shark tank , the chair with the wires or the bloke with top hat doing frisbee entertainment or anyone called Le Ceif offering to settle the whole matter with a game of poker. If matters get awkuard on the private jet meeting and the fattest one gets sucked through a window , adjust your tie “sheems like he needed to bailout all along”
I wish this person anonymous can point to a left wing blog that is able to put forward a reasonable case for more of the UK intergration with the Eussr at this time.
Sock it to ‘em, guy. I like your style
When was the last time a europhile
Came anywhere near to making a sale
On a swizz no more than a fairy tale?
Old Heath led us in on a merry dance
And we fell for it and so took a chance
Shirley Happy Dave can tell us now why
The E U’s the best thing since apple pie
If it is, then just how hard could it be
To convince the customer – you and me?
There is absolutely no truth in the rumour’s being spread around by certain ill informed blogger’s that to make George Osborne’s brilliant idea for Growth Bonds more attractive to Mr & Mrs Joe Public, plans are being dusted off for the start of World War 3.
Now where is my Waccy Baccy…..to inspire more clear Government Thinking …..
oops that might be to drastic to include “Thinking……” thats not allowed….under EEC rule No. 147856/345/678/519…..
Glad thats clear !!!
Never mind robbing the Uk savers , see if Sir Mervyn King , can offer infrastructure bonds fixed for ten years on 1% return , for all that cash with no where to go in global system .
Sometimes solutions to perennial problems can be disarmingly simple.
Kisan Baburao Hazare (aka Anna Hazare) of Bombay (Mumbai if you must) has a good approach to the administration of justice. The punishment for corrupt public officials, politicians and prime minister included, should be death.
Nice one!
Power to your elbow Mr. Carswell.
Guido should get on the blower about this survey to the Daily Express me thinks.
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