May 10th, 2012

The Eagle Has Floundered

At Business Questions yesterday afternoon, Angela Eagle said: “following on from the Queens Speech, the IoD said the government was beginning to lose the confidence of UK PLC.” Except the IoD did not say that. At all.

They did use the word “confidence” in terms of economic confidence, which was described as “the real key to growth” – a concept a former Shadow Chief Secretary of the Treasury should probably understand. In fact the IoD argued that the best way to build economic confidence is for the Government to go further, faster on deregulation, tax cuts, pension reform, scrapping quangos etc – hardly Angela Eagle’s position. So where did she get the idea that “the IoD said the government was beginning to lose the confidence of UK PLC”?

Well, the only place that phrase has appeared was on the Twitter account of Steve Hawkes, the Sun Business Editor:

Taking her lines from Twitter is enough of a worry, but from the Sun? Don’t tell Ed…


115 Comments

  1. 1
    Phill says:

    What a dumb ass!

    • 20
      Where's the fragrant and retiring Mrs Bercow says:

      You could see that when she was the page 3 girl in the same issue as Harriet and Margaret and Yvonne and Chris B.

      • 25
        Hang The Bastards says:

        STUPID LAZY INCOMPETENT SHALLOW LYING cow !

        Me thinks that about sums up the useless whore.

        • 47
          Rage Against the Politcal Elite says:

          Interesting comment, however I would like to mention here that the BANKS have eye watering amounts of Toxic assest. They are now stealing more money from the real economy in higher interest rates to back fit their DEBT’s Any one for a bit of CFD’s This is Putting struggling businesses to the WALL creating more TOXIC assets for the Banks to cope with, while the European BANK and BOE prop the whole financial fraud up helping the BANKS and the TAX man to RAPE the real economy. Its not looking good folks, but would you expect it too??

        • 61
          Gooey Blob says:

          Given that Labour have said they would not have cut corporation tax in the budget and will raise it again if they get back in, the unelectable rabble who sit on the opposition benches are in no position to talk.

          Labour just don’t “get” the private sector.

          • The Hon. Comrade Loretto Fettes MP (Rottenborough East) says:

            We’re arrogant and out of touch.

          • Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

            Is that an old photo of Denis Waterman with a hangover?

      • 32
        On a serious note says:

        Wibbley

      • 42
        God's Holy Trousers says:

        Face like a slapped arse with a personality to match.

        • 71
          Lord Snooty says:

          The best way to rebuild confidence is to give all the Nation’s assets to me and my chums.

          • Gooey Blob says:

            Nice try, Mandelson! We did that in 1997, and you flushed our money down the toilet. Thanks to Labour it will be decades before this country is back on its feet financially.

      • 62
        David Cameron says:

        Scrapping Quangos?

        What an absurd idea.

    • 81
      Team Ed says:
      • 83
        Mornington Crescent says:

        “Ello Ed, you must join ze Euro project as soon as possible ‘cos I need some wonga for my tax’n’spend, you know?”
        “Yeth, Francois, yeth, yeth.”

      • 86
        Steve Miliband says:

        Allo Francwows? …It’s Ed, yes Ed……Ed Miliband…… From England…… The politician…. Socialist…. Labour….Opposition party….No David is my brother but he’s not the leader….No Gordon is no longer the leader…..About 18 months……No he’s the Shadow chancellor…….No he’s the Shadow Foreign Secretary….well anyway good luck.

  2. 2
    Tetly says:

    Does not matter lies lies and more lies and no one holds them to account

    Labour lying fecking toerags

  3. 3
    Coolson says:

    the most amazing thing about phone hacking is that it all happened when Labour were in power having Pajama parties with the main protagonists yet even now …… its the Tories getting all the stick

    WTF!!!!

    • 8
      Steve Miliband says:

      The newspaper influence all happened under Blair/Brown, orchestrated by Campbell so why do we need to hear all this rubbish

    • 23
      Mike Hunt says:

      Left wing good, not left wing bad.
      I thought everyone knew that.

      Been hoping that they would get their comeuppance but it is taking its time,

    • 34
      Is this wehat politics in this country has come to? says:

      Look, look, it must be bad because Coulson can’t remember everything from six years ago so he must be hiding something. FFFFS!!

      The more sane amongst us might think that’s because it all farking irrelevant to everybody save for two of Brown’s camp thugs.

      • 39
        Is this what politics in this country has come to? says:

        What, obviously. FFFFFS!! Oh and for what it’s worth I think that Eagle is fucking useless

  4. 4
    Egg Millibland says:

    I thought that the only absolute truth was Wikipedia

  5. 5
    The Pope says:

    Angela Eagle is evil

    • 33
      roy says:

      part of the conspiracy of labour govt, media and police that colluded in the mass rapes of British children.

    • 87
      Col Nut says:

      Wasn’t it Evil Kneagle who jumped over buses on his motorbike? Are they related?

      • 90
        Sick of the greed and lies(still) says:

        Well looking at her, it seems she might have landed a bit short and damaged a bus. I think she was ok though.

  6. 6
    Well it's a thought says:

    Wow! someone writes something and someone else writes a similar something, have we been at this point before.

    • 15
      A scribe says:

      I noticed that happens a lot in our monestary quite often, but I have no idea why. I shall pray to the lord for enlightenment

  7. 7
    Sod the Eds says:

    You wouldn’t would you?

  8. 9
    Danny says:

    How on earth did such a shallow, vacuous know nothing get to such heights?

    As long as there are lazy welfare junkies, immigrants and public sector workers shit like Eagle will always float to the surface.

    • 77
      Archer Karcher says:

      “How on earth did such a shallow, vacuous know nothing get to such heights?”

      Ditto Ainsworth, Harman, Hoon, Miliband E., Hain, May, Cable, Spelman, Yeo or any of a cast of hundreds. The parasite class are morally bankrupt, intellectually juvenile, epically pathetic and almost entirely, posturing frauds.

      I wouldn’t waste piss on any of them frankly.

  9. 10
    The stupidest politicians in the world says:

    It seems to be raining rather a lot at the moment. I think we will let inefficient utility companies ban hosepipes and blame it on global warming.

    • 31
      Egg Millibland says:

      My hosepipe leaks a lot at the end. I need a new one

    • 85
      Archer Karcher says:

      The wettest drought in the history of humanity, has more than a little stench around it.
      Water companies usually extract water from rivers when reservoirs are low. However, when there is a re@l drought and river levels are low, the water companies are, rightly, forbidden to do this, thus shortage.

      When rivers are running high or potentially close to flood, there are no restrictions on extraction, so water companies can take as much as they need to re-fill their reservoirs.

      The question that needs to be asked is, why are water companies relying only on rainfall to replenish reservoirs, when normally they they do not?

      • 91
        ho hum says:

        Because they are all owned by foreigners who really don’t gve a sh*t as long as consumers continue to pay their bills.

  10. 11
    Steve Miliband says:

    Johann Hari writes their press releases

  11. 12
    Rat's arse says:

    Is Alistair McCampbell being hauled in front of this pathetic enquiry? What about McBribe & all the other Leiber Henchmen? Of will Leveson conven iently run out of time?

    • 27
      Mike Hunt says:

      I suspect that will be the case.

      • 78
        Pawn Sandwich says:

        I hope not because we really do need to know how Dr Dav.id Ke.lly was outed by the media. How did the media become privvy to this information?

  12. 13
    Impressario says:

    I’m thinking of auditioning the Eagle sisters for Cinderella. Not for the title role though.

  13. 14
    non paper-reading free thinker says:

    We’re doomed.

  14. 16
    DANGER says:

    Aaaagh!

    “Confidence!” What the fucking hell is “confidence?” Do they have a fucking model? Then they are talking out of their fucking arses.

    On what reasonable basis does anyone think that “confidence” is the “real key to growth?” What does that even mean? Is there any empirical evidence? No! Is this a model? No! It’s just utter bullshit.

    No model => no fucking idea.

    • 59
      Raving Loon says:

      I think a pre-requesite of being an MP is not having any clue about economics.

      • 73
        Gooey Blob says:

        That’s actually a pre-requisite of joining Labour, as decades of history have shown. The Greens are even worse, their manifesto is so bad it’s unintentionally funny.

        Only those in the centre or on the right have any idea about economics. Those on the left are too obsessed with spending other people’s money to worry about where it all comes from.

        • 114
          DANGER says:

          Nice idea but wrong. What is the model that says that austerity is expansionary, as the coalition started off saying? There isn’t one! The only evidence was a piece of empirical work that was subsequently torn to shreds (the authors considered periods when the budged balance was improving rather than periods in which governments were attempting to improve their budget balances, thus confusing cause with effect).

          Sorry, Tories are as stupid as any other party when it comes to economics.

    • 69
      sockpuppet #4 says:

      I don’t believe in “economic models” much.

      Presumably they’d have to model the mental state of someone going past a £5 coffee stall, and a difference between them deciding “I’ve got a fiver, I can afford it”, and “I’ve got a fiver, I’m worried I might need to spend that on something else”.

      Even if they cannot quantify it, theres got to be something to do with “mood” that makes people change decisions on buying/saving/investing.

      • 115
        DANGER says:

        Now that is a thoughtful point. But the point is that you need a model in order to make a reasonable prediction. It doesn’t have to be a complete model of the economy, as long as it captures the dynamics of the question at issue. I am the last person to put my faith in a single economic model — models are a toolkit and the trick is to apply the right one to a given situation. Interesting discussions revolve around whether the model is applicable.

        But if you have no model at all, how then have you formed an opinion? “Instinct?” “Common sense?” This is my point. These are the same thing as “bullshit.”

  15. 17
    EdMiliband says:

    I have a five point plan to draw a pentagon

  16. 19
    Owain Glyndwr says:

    Typical lying labour mongs. Came across this earlier today. Maybe this explains the reason the liebour party were reluctant to send that piiece of shite qatada
    back to jordian.

    http://hurryupharry.org/2012/05/10/justice-labour-style-andy-slaughter-and-al-muntada/

    • 36
      Owain Glyndwr says:

      Just posted an article an article from harry’s place about labour. Why is it modded?

      • 88
        Archer Karcher says:

        The modbot is frying everyone today, perhaps there are ritz in the air?

  17. 21
    Anonymous says:

    is tom baldwin going to appear and answer questions in relation to ashcroft

  18. 22
  19. 24
    Marmite says:

    It just worries me how far the poisonous Leiber tentacles have stretched in to every part of the Establishment over 13 years. They seem to know who to contact the stir up trouble in any quarter. As for the ugly Angela, she and her sister should go and find a good man as they need to have a smile put on their ugly mushes.

    • 50
      Well it's a thought says:

      I thought the beautiful Angie was “married” sorry that’s what Camoron is calling it.

      • 89
        Archer Karcher says:

        An evening with the Eagles, you can check out anytime you want, but you can never le@ve.

  20. 28
    • 92
      Archer Karcher says:

      Hmmm, thousands of new jobs.

      Too bad he didn’t mention the words “in other countries such as China”. Which is closer to the truth, but hey Ed’s a politician, so his default setting is liar.

  21. 29
    Pussy Galore says:

    It could have been the Sunday Star. Classy publication or what!

  22. 37
    annette curton says:

  23. 38
    Islamic Republic of Oldham says:

    Hey politics fans! Tonight’s Question Time comes from the Labour and muzee stronghold of Oldham. On the panel for your entertainment are Chris Bryant, Caroline Spelman, Lord Oakeshott, Mary Beard and Peter Oborne. Ensuring that Bryant gets to shout down anyone who might ask about his recent apology to Leveson for breaking the rules is your host David Dimbleby.

    And as a side note, you have a good chance of having your texts shown on digital 155 as for some strange reason the person who selects which ones are shown seems to be non-Labour. So much so that last week one texter complained that it looked as though Tory central office was selecting the messages.

  24. 39
  25. 41
    Eddy the Eagle says:

    I’m changing my name

  26. 43
    lolathebeautiful says:

    Another silly Blair bitch

  27. 45
    Harbottle says:

    Her mind was on other things: rug munching.

  28. 49
    Indigo says:

    “Taking her lines from Twitter”

    Evan Davies did the same thing this morning, on R4 Today. Told the nation that today is five years since Tony Blair stepped down. Had to correct himself live on air a short while later, admitting that his source had been someone’s tweet.

    Prat-fall entirely do to Beeboids’ zeal for reminding us of the “good old days” of last Labour government.

  29. 51
    Jimmy says:

    The Sun has a business editor?

    • 56
      Nom Dom Nom says:

      Also runs the obituaries desk

      • 94
        Jimmy says:

        Same thing under the tories.

        I’m here all week.

        • 97
          Archer Karcher says:

          Your time will come soon enough Jimmy, not long now old fella. Will you ask for pages from Das Kapital to be re@d out and the red flag to be played when they sow you under?

  30. 55
    Tony Blair says:

    Because what is important is, is what is important is.

  31. 57
    And now for something completey different to the humourless sexless Eagle says:
  32. 58
    TYT says:

    “In fact the IoD argued that the best way to build economic confidence is for the Government to go further, faster on deregulation, tax cuts, pension reform, scrapping quangos etc.”

    This is just more anarchism (deregulation), the ideological promise that market-forces will save in the end has only ever been corrected in the past (be it Stalin in the late 1920s, Mussolini in Italy in the 20s/30s, Roosevelt’s New Deal in the USA in the 30s, Franco in Spain in the 30s, Hitler in Germany in the 30s or the (real) Labour Government after WWII, has been REGULATION, i.e Big Government.

    Otherwise, some people, a self-interested minority, will work together as a cartel to drive down asset prices and then buy them up for a song at the expense of the majority, thus further dispossessing and impoverishing them. Just think back to the past when you’ve heard it said that those who are poor or lazy only have themselves to blame. What if they are in fact just made that way like children and skewed birth-rates, and can’t plan ahead, can only live on weekly wages, and can’t manage a cheque book or credit card without getting into terrible debt just like a child would?

    That is why we have a state. That is why societies with low level mean human capital are totalitarian. It is paternalistic. It is not patronizing to be realistic about human diversity and how it changes in time demographically and geographically. Note that across the Liberal-Democracies, most females do not do anything productive, but do compete in the work force and do have massive spending power which drives what is in demand, even though, looked at critically, it really is not of much value. Like it or not, the old phrases ‘women and children first’, is because they are very similar in their cognitive and emotional behaviours, which is why Governments which have sorted these problems out in the past have been referred to as authoritarian.

    Inevitably, where these regimes exist in the world today, they are our enemies…

    • 101
      Archer Karcher says:

      Your post was the biggest pile of ste@ming horse shite posted here in some while. Hopefully your career as a street vendor for the Big Issue, will mean you never obtain a position of power, that may incredibly, give you influence over ordinary peoples lives.

    • 106
      A second rate managing director says:

      If you are going for satire on here you need to loosen up on the ol’ subtly if you get my drift.

      If you weren’t being satirical you would need to be more “in the real world”.

      OK.

  33. 63
    Owain Glyndwr says:

    Am I being stupid or what, millitwat going on about the great liebour victory in the local elections.

    http://conservativehome.blogs.com/localgovernment/2012/05/conservatives-still-have-more-councils-in-britain-than-labour-and-lib-dems-put-together.html

    • 74
      Next Time says:

      Because Most local councils did not hold elections.

      • 102
        will says:

        If you have ever been a local councillor i can tell you its a pile of rubbish. You have about 5% of the revenue to allocate as the rest is already pre spent with various pressure groups asking for 10%. If i was a local councillor i would run down the road thanking the electorate for chucking me out.

  34. 65
    • 111
      Handycock Immigrant Trafiker says:

      I agree with Andy. I make speeches like this to all the immigrants I have brought in to Portsmouth. Votes you know. Boaz.

  35. 72
    Petrol on the Fire says:

    Coulson should not have mentioned conspiracy theory. If there wasn’t one before there is now

  36. 80
    Diane Abbott says:

    Dem honky bitches got what they deserved!

  37. 84
    BBC Frenzy says:

    The BBC seem to think Coulson holding shares in NI and being part of a government considering the takeover of sky and no twat asking him if he had a financial involvement is the dynamite

    • 103
      will says:

      Have the guardian aplogised for blaming news international over millie dowler and the phone messages – answer no

      The Times highlighted the problems with asian men grooming white girls years ago, but the guardian said nothing.

      The quality of journalism at the guardian is going rapidly downhill and it has been captured by an upper middle class elite, chatterati from islington and clapham.

      The recent riots it defended the rioters and had numerious articles supporting them. Blaming the police, so why did the rioters raid footlocker and game then !!

      It really is out of touch with the country whilst turning a blind eye to what is going on.

  38. 95
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Why tell the truth when you can labour lie. Get your hair washed Eagle.

  39. 98
    Minutes from UK plc shareholder's AGM 10/5/12 says:

    Item 1) Apologies in absentia from the 30,186,732 that couldn’t get babysitters/had to do their hair/ weren’t interested.

    Item 2) Appraisal of The Company’s recent performance. (NB- Mrs. Patel was unimpressed and broke down in tears, saying she wished she had invested in Deutschland plc)

    Item 3) Coverage of UK plc in the media. A show of hands confirmed that a majority of shareholders thought the media were doing an average job of running The Company. Mr. Gupta twittered from his allotment in Wales to complain of greenfly and poor reception.

    Item 4) Onwards and upwards (an open debate on improving The Company). Many shareholders expressed an interest in experimenting with duel boards of directors: The existing set-up, complete with it’s narcissists, drama queens and ‘elected’ big-wigs and a parallel board, comprised of ordinary people that know the value of money. Mrs. Amawillywally argued forcibly that, given a real choice, other shareholders would see the light and vote for something they knew nothing about and I don’t doubt her logic.

    Item 5) Tea and buns. Nice sugar-rush.

    Item 6) Car parking. Mr. Peabottom of Douglas, in The Isle of Man, raised the question of parking during The Olympics.

    Item 7) Any other business.

  40. 108
    ToonBob... says:

    Liar, liar panties on fire :)

  41. 112
    Colin Hall says:

    Nothing surprises me about government in the UK. It just shows that the practice of reporting rumours as fact (if they support your present policy) has not changed since Tony Blair’s claim that Iraq could deploy WMD’s within 45 minutes.

    Personally, I think that it’s time for a complete rethink of the whole democratic process in the UK. The current system seems not to provide the calibre of politician that this complex world requires.


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“There is more sexism in Britain than in any other country in the world, according to a mad woman who has been sent here by the United Nations.

Rashida Manjoo is a part-time professor of law at Cape Town University in the totally non-sexist country of South Africa (otherwise known as Rape Capital Of The World).

Mrs Magoo has been wandering around with her notebook and is appalled by the sexist “boys’ club” culture here, apparently.

I don’t doubt we still have sexism in the UK. But is it worse than in, say, Saudi Arabia, d’you think, honey-lamb? Or about 175 other countries? Get a grip, you doolally old bat.”



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