April 25th, 2012

Yellow Hands Are Dirty Too

The one time LibDem DCMS spokesman Don Foster said in the House earlier: “Politicians have been cosying up to the media for too long. Given press perception and actual impartiality, it is improper for politicians to make decisions about media ownership”. He would know:

Are the LibDem’s hands really clean here?

They have their own people in Murdoch’s world – take Sky’s Head of Policy David Wheeldon who was a former senior member of LibDem policy unit. Despite it being a matter for BIS and then Culture, the emails released yesterday are full of meetings with Jonny Oates – Clegg’s adviser who is a former director of Bell Pottinger and one of two controversial lobbyists at the heart of the Deputy Prime Minister’s team. Vince’s team were also calling Fred Michel unsolicited. There is no doubt that Vince hated Murdoch, but to suggest the LibDems are somehow saintly is a joke. They are trying to pretend they didn’t go to the News Intrnational party out of choice, when in reality they were not invited…


95 Comments

  1. 1
    WTF? says:

    Hang on, Politcans courting owners/editors of media outlets?

    They all do it.

    In an ideal world of free markets minster wouldnt need to get involved in these deals.

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    • 5
      Indo says:

      But the markets are not free, because people are buying influence and contracts through government making sure that the laws favour them, or hinder their competitors. Or in the case of the police – making sure that illegality is not investigated.

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      • 23
        Kebab time says:

        they are all upper to it

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          V1le Labour ruined my Country says:

          This is just a reflection of the cesspit that is the UK now, thanks Labour. When are all these benefit claimants going to be housed in caravans to save money. As the UK borrowed 125 Billiion last year benefits have got to be slashed now, not tomorrow, now. I really enjoy paying extortionate tax rates to feed this army of benefit spongers.

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          • Q says:

            I also enjoy the annual increase in my council tax exclusively to pay the shortfall of the final salary pension pot of the boxtickers employed there.

            One day I may have enough spare money to up my own contributions to my private sector pension shafted through QE

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          • Lembit Opik is an honest man. Honest guv. says:

            The Lib Dems are a joke, period.

            I started muting the sound or switching channels whenever Clegg spoke from around the time of the PR referendum. I

            hope they all, bar Cable, lose their deposits at the next election.

            When the lords is reformed I hope PR isn’t used to elect lords. Our national referendum rejected PR.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Clegg and co are the two faced waxxxxs who opposed the national health reforms then banged the table in delight in cabinet when they thought they’d passed them. They’re just power hungry unprincipled xxxxs.

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      • 25

        If you took all the innocent people and stuck them in the prisons, freeing the current inmates, then called all areas outside prison and all areas inside the free zone, then justice would be seen to be served. Also the old prison areas would be less crowded.

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      • 30
        MEDIA=POLICE=STATE says:

        WHY DID MAGGIE help this SPY company into Wapping?? Why did she by Polaris? At great expense to the UK tax payer and a loss of JOBS in the UK in weapons systems science and technology?
        What was the deal for going to WAR. Weapons of Mass destruction Shit. AND HOW MUCH did NEWS INTERNATIONAL help the BLIAR to declare WAR. How much in LIVES and Capital has this organisation really cost the country? With a bunch of Political Traitors running the country with Murdoch’s help. The rise of the oil Price has on the instability in the middle east has filled some Oil company bank accounts but has now bankrupt the WEST.

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        • 91
          Marion the cat says:

          Heaven forfend that you should mean BAe by the descriptor ‘the UK weapons systems science and technology employer’. Last I heard this ‘International’ congomerate was twisting government arms to buy a pretty much untested vertical lift fighter against all the sane advice of equiping the RN carrier with a proper catapult and hook system for international co-operation. Couldn’t sell Tornadoes to the Indians – even when we were paying. See The Register for news on this.

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      • 31
        MEDIA=POLICE=STATE says:

        Well said INDO

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      • 69
        AC1 says:

        No, the state’s selling influence. That’s what’s wrong.

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    • 51
      Gordon Brown says:

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      • 54
        genghiz the kahn says:

        One Hunt denies what another Hunt said.

        http://labourlist.org/2012/04/gordon-brown-responds-to-murdoch-allegations/

        ““Mr Rupert Murdoch has today made a serious allegation that in a telephone call when ‘The Sun’ declared for the Conservative Party, I told him I had declared war on his company.

        He is wholly wrong.

        As the Leveson Inquiry heard ‘The Sun’ declared for the Conservatives on the 30th of September, 2009. I did not phone Mr Murdoch or meet him, or write to him about his decision.

        The only phone call I had with Mr Murdoch in the last year of my time in office was a phone call specifically about Afghanistan and his newspaper’s coverage of the war. This was in the second week of November after his newspaper, The Sun, printed a story in the second week of November about the death of a soldier and his mother’s complaints .

        I hope Mr Murdoch will have the good grace to correct his account.”

        Fuck off Brown.

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      • 70
        AC1 says:

        BBC only report denials of Labour malfeasance.
        BBC report on Labour accusations.

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      • 83
        M says:

        perhaps he ment to say Holly war , you know how the drugs effect the speech

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    • 78
      Handycock Statesman of Great Stature says:

      I used to court the media, but they all treat me with ridicule ands distain these days, except for the Guardian. I had this article put in to boost my image.

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/24/council-of-europe-migrant-boat-deaths?newsfeed=true

      What I also wanted to say in the article, but could not for sensitive political reasons, is that these poor asylum seekers, could have come to Portsmouth. We would welcome them with open arms, my ‘boys’ will build the flats for them to live in and I will provide the planning permissions for this building, and we will all make millions out of it. Boaz.

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      • 92
        Gordon Brown says:

        You did a great job for the Labour Party in Portsmouth, Handy. That is one of the reasons you have had so much protection, the Grand Master, of course being the other.

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  2. 2
    Gay Gordon says:

    What a cheek, calling me unbalanced. Nurse!I made a smell!

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    • 14
      Loungelizard says:

      I see there’s a beard competition in Germany at the moment, can you tell us where your wife is?

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    • 36
      MEDIA=POLICE=STATE says:

      The Prime Minister was told he could NOT investigate NI by GOD. Now that will be a story, Is GOD been summoned to the Levenson, or will he just tell them to Fu-k off like he did during the IRAQ enquiry. Was it all bit to complicated to work out that the attack on IRAQ was organised to get the Oil price up and up and up and up. The Bush empire made a few bob out of that one, while the USA TAX payer picked up the COST.

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    • 85
      M says:

      thats right Gordon you did make a big smell & the whole country is living with it

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  3. 3
    DEEP FRIED TAMPON says:

    At least Brown had “One eye on the ball”
    Cameron can’t even see the fuckin pitch !

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  4. 4
    Rage says:

    They are all a bunch of greasy self serving lick spittle expense cheating c_unts who are so out of touch with reality that it beggars belief.

    I for one will never vote again for any of the insipid little b’tards

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    • 8
      Indo says:

      We need to have a “Who is the least dishonest politician” rather than who is most honest. I suspect that politicians have ethics that even the average estate agent would consider to be underhand.

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      • 9
        Rage says:

        Good idea but I suspect its rather of a case of the culture changing individuals rather than the other way around.I am sure most people who become an MP (excluding those that have never done anything else like… well the list is long ….) enter with a wish to serve the people. Then of course the system corrupts them and before you know it they are lying with their nose firmly in the trough.

        Guy Fawkes had the right idea

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      • 15
        SIR EVERARD PENIS QC says:

        Bloody used car salesmen have more credibility

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        • 42
          Arthur's Used Cars and Escort Agency says:

          Eh us used car salesmen have ethics you know, at least our nails are still worth something as scrap. What’s LibLabConMan ever left you with that was worth anything?

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  5. 7
    SIR EVERARD PENIS QC says:

    I wonder who’s names they have crossed out
    and don’t want us to see ?

    Why are we suprised ?
    Politicians = Crooks
    Where there free money to be had you will always find them

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  6. 10
    tom says:

    This really isn’t that ‘dirty’ though is it?

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  7. 11
    Brown shitty hands says:

    Definitely. Labour is the pits though. They are doing what they do best, being hypocrites! Murdoch is being pasted because Labour were no longer considered good enough to lick his boots. Their pathetic grumblings are both astonishing and laughable.

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  8. 12
    Anonymous says:

    Well, if you believe Iain Martin in the Telegraph, Clegg is a very good friend of Frederic Michel. So I reckon they’ve all got their hands dirty and will do all that is possible to keep Hunt in place.

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  9. 13
    SIR EVERARD PENIS QC says:

    What i really want to see is prosecutions of the Scotland Yard top brass and any other coppers that were also on the pay roll

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  10. 16
    A Hyperactive Smiling Woman says:

    Vanish oxy-action wipes out all traces of Murdoch!

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  11. 17
    Anthony says:

    The email involving Clegg’s Chief of Staff basically consists of him telling Fred Michel to stop interfering. Hardly on the Hunt level is it?

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  12. 24
    William says:

    Like Tom I do not under stand all the fuss is about, all I hear is waffle how did the Sky benefit inappropriately ?

    I was against the take over, as the tax payer would have lost a lot of tax revenue, the current structure is not as Tax efficient as it would have been if the merger would have taken place.

    Also James/Rebecca are not proper people to be running a media company (look at James rants about the BBC) – but OFFCOM and Labour just weren’t interested.

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    • 29
      Ex-Tory says:

      So people who rant about the privileged position of a State broadcaster, that forces people to pay its tax through threat of imprisonment, should be banned from being directors. Sounds like you are a communist or a BBC employee, if there’s a difference.

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      • 75
        AC1 says:

        What about, the comment that business owners should be banned from doing things that minimise their tax liability!

        William is more a Richard.

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  13. 26
    Marmite says:

    Can’t some-one bump off that old, smelly, sack of shyte going by the name of Dennis Skinner? Is he really the best that Bolsover can manage? They must all dr*ggies.

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  14. 32
    When fact beceomes the legend;print the legend says:

    All politicians are in the Swamp up to their necks and are struggling to get out whilst pushing their opponents further under the mire

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  15. 34
    Yates.."Of the Yard" says:

    Ha !! Murdock even when he’s telling the truth he’s lying..

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    • 55
      Backwoodsman says:

      He definitely needs to up his game. Rugby coverage on British Euro Sport shading that on Sky right now.

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  16. 38
    British Spring - If Only It Were Possible!! says:

    SO, the yellow hands are dirty, we all know the red and the blue hands are very very dirty, time for a complete change but with no choice at all.

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  17. 39
    SouthEastVoter says:

    Really cant see what the fuss is about. Key questions:
    Q:Did Murdoch get full control of BSkyB?
    A: No
    Q: Did he offer a bribe? Was it accepted?
    A: No Evidence

    Conclusion: Politicians need the Media to get votes. The Media need to sell papers/ advertising to stay in business. Voters decide which Politicians to Vote for and what Media to read/listen/watch

    The BBC need to keep their Media Monopoly and will try to destroy all completion

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    • 43
      Q says:

      So the ….

      Deceit
      Lies
      Double Standards
      Toadying up
      State=media=police
      (none exhaustive)

      Doesn’t worry you?

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    • 49
      Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

      The whole hacking think never amounted to jack shit. Fatty Watson was on Radio 5 today with rent boy look a like Richard Bacon. First words out of fatty Watson’s mouth were “Milly Dowler”

      Yes we get that it was terrible, but they never did delete the phone messages but outside of that one incident does anyone care if some z lister got her phone hacked so the Scum could find out what wankballer she’s banging?

      I’m sick of the Labour party using that poor dead girl for political reasons. WE know that the Labour government knew of the phone hacking when they were in power and they did jack shit about it.

      The BBC and the Guardian both know that by smashing up Sky and Murdoch both can financially gain from that.

      What gets me is Murdoch seems determined to get Cameron when his real enemy are the twats at the BBC and Guardian.

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  18. 41
    Clarion says:

    It’s just been pointed out on the Media show that Rupert said Dave is a light weight. Can’t disagree with that.

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  19. 45
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    How many fucking times do the Tories need to be told that they MUST CUT FUCKING TAXES AND PUBLIC SPENDING!!!

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    • 52
      The Conservative Party says:

      Thank you for your comment to Dave Cameron’s Conservative Party.

      We regret that Dave is not able to read, listen or pay any attention to comments that have not been preceded by a cash payment of at least £250,000.

      We have no record of you making such a payment, therefore your comment has been deleted.

      Thank you for contacting Dave Cameron’s Conservative Party.

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      • 56
        SIR EVERARD PENIS QC says:

        PS if you would like to pop round for tea with Dave and Sam
        we do a special discount on Wednesdays and Sunday afternoons
        Only £215,000 PP payable on the door no need to book
        strictly cash only

        Toodle Pip !

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  20. 46
    Q says:

    Maybe the Lib Lab Con lot should just merge (officially) into one party called the SCUM party (Socialist Conservatist United Movement).

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  21. 50
    Vince's Team says:

    “Vince’s team were also calling Fred Michel unsolicited.”

    “Oi! Fred Michel! You’re unsolicited!”

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  22. 53
    SIR EVERARD PENIS QC says:

    McDoom has said Murkdock was wrong and has asked for an apology and asked that old Rupert correct his recollections of events as he never said he declared war

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  23. 61
    I don't need no doctor says:

    It’s gone quiet on the Jack Straw rendition issue. Do not lose sight of this Guido!

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  24. 62
    I don't need no doctor says:

    So no emails from Ed Miliband connecting him to the Murdoch empire? Surely there must be someone out there with something.

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  25. 66
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Tom Watson – what a donkey.

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  26. 67
    Emily Litella says:

    Johnny Oates– I haven’t heard that name in years! I used to listen to him and Daryl Hall when I was a younger gal– “Sara Smile,” “Maneater,” “Private Eyes”…
    Oh– Jonny Oates the dodgy mate of Nick Clegg!
    (Never mind.)

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  27. 68
    Jonny Oates says:

    Hello Guido

    I am in and out of government like all good lobbyist

    And I know where my bread is buttered

    And I was a Director of the infamous Bell Pottager (excuse the French) who represent anyone who will put up the large amount of cash necessary for our general wellbeing, champagne, cars, restaurants and expensive houses and holidays…

    Including dictators, ex-dictators, friends of dictators, money launders and tutti quanti…we are not fussy…as long as the ackers keep rolling in…

    So being in the heart of government is a damn sight more honest than what we used to be up to…

    And to which I will no doubt return

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  28. 72
    Capo di tutti capi Murdoch says:

    Guido

    As an ex-employee of mine, like so many others, you must admit that I was marvellous today

    I showed that these awful politicians just wanted me and all my power and I never asked for anything in return

    What I failed to say, the criminal nature of my companies in Britain, the obstruction of justice, my many employees arrested and charged, just got swept under the table

    This is a public relations triumph !

    PS James was wonderful yesterday, dont’t you think ? He just put Hunt and Cameron in deep stuck…ROFL..serves them right…

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    • 76
      Britain is a banana monarchy says:

      Wonderful to see this “Chief Executive” taking no responsibility for his criminal organisation..flying off to New York with his son laughing all the way to the bank…

      And a High Court Judge bowing and scraping to him (the same High Court Judge who accepted Murdoch hospilality BTW)

      Britain is just a fucking joke

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  29. 84
    not a machine says:

    It all looked like M the youngers day was at hand , weak growth , cabinet minister sacking a spad . Robinson “well you 12 o clock on a wednesday is when most goverment people are sacked ” M the younger got his say , we perhaps all wondered when the PM would fold , 3rd question 4th …… I was wrong PM gave quite a resilient performance in part because Mr Hunt seemed to have a defence and Labour had not really thought it through in there spin frenzy , by 1pm labours attack was circumcised and had tailed off .

    Ed balls delivered his blow “george Osbourne is out of his depth” oh er ed thats fightin talk round these parts .After useual round round of not answering Adam Boultons questions and response to what he would have done adding up to a mere £15.65p od saving on massive debt he left , we shall have to wait for another day for the skewering of Ed wonkecnomics .
    That said I think I would have done a few things differently , however I cannot say until the big problem of the eurozone is known , even so Eds big debt is and always will be utter crap from a an ecnomic competence point of view , whatever I disagree with on coalition budgets .
    If coalition budget turns out to be poorly judged which my guess is about july to know , well then it will be time for change . As I thought having all the big western economies in debt and anaemic growth , is having a previously unthought effect.

    I dont quite know why Levenson as ked some of the question to Rupert it did , certainly didnt treat him like a man who made thousands of jobs and wealth , pop at pre 70s tabloid standards was a bit much . However some gems like the ruin being unbalanced , interesting people at parties , and just that span of events he has had media presence in

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  30. 86
    Stacks of sleaze says:

    But at least the Judge declared openly a possible conflict.

    As for Cameron and Hunt things are more complicated.

    Cameron says he is in the clear because he said he wanted nothing to do with the matter because he knew Murdoch and deliberately kept hiis eyes and ears closed at all material times.

    However it was Cameron who had appointed Hunt Culture Secretary. Cameron
    would have known something about the relationship between Murdoch and Hunt. Cameron replaced Cable with Hunt to keep everything clean and above board.

    Hunt could have made a Levenson style disclosure but did not.

    The deal would have gone through if it had not been for the Guardian.

    Cameron is seeking to claim credit for calling the Leveson Inquiry but I seem to recall him earlier being against the idea. THe only reason the Inquiry is ongoing is because the people’s idiot Millipede trapped him in a corner with the phone hacking allegations.

    Quite simply if these two were both working for me they would be out the door tonight.

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  31. 88
    Stacks of sleaze says:

    If Cameron has misled Parliament over meetings with Murdoch in May and July then I dont think he will be around much longer.

    Of all the candidates to replace him the favourite would be Osborne but even he has been tarnished.

    Hague, Clegg, Fox , Maude and May are all wounded.

    Phil Hammond might just come through on the rails as he has kept out of trouble.

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  32. 89
    Stobrith says:

    Does any one know if Maxwell’s old Yacht is still afloat.
    It may well be just the thing that Murdoch is looking for right now.
    ….and the instructions of course.

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  33. 95

    Politicians, lobbying and special interest groups have been doing this for years. The media is bought and paid for, the powers that be say jump, and the media say’s “how high”.

    Regardless of how much a politician does, it is ultimately the media outlets owners “secret friends” that tell them what politicians to back with their news stories.

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Can anyone help me? I went on holiday a week ago and returned to find someone has pulled out the stake and Gordon Brown is back and acting as Prime Minister. What did I miss? Has there been a snap election?


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