April 16th, 2012

Lansley Backs ‘Baccy Ban But Not Booze

Today sees the launch of the Department of Health’s consultation on plain packaging for tobacco. It is said to have the full support of the Andrew Lansley, unlike the last such nannying measure to come out of Whitehall – minimum pricing of alcohol. It was left to Theresa May to make a cack-handed public order defence for minimum pricing after the Health Secretary reportedly refused to lead the campaign. Health sources say the discrepancy is down to what is considered acceptable levels – Lansley believes there to be no acceptable level of smoking where as there are acceptable levels of boozing, but Guido isn’t convinced by the logic. Both measures are patronising nanny-statism of the worst kind and should be opposed. 


  1. 1
    Erm says:

    Pf course not, he uses cheap booze in parliament .


  2. 2
    A Counterfeit Tobacco Importer says:

    It’ll save having to create all that expensive fake packaging, and with the tax going up, we’ll be quids in

  3. 3
    Lord Michael Caine says:

    Did we ever think we could get a worse government then Liebour truth is this shower is just as usless.

  4. 4
    Guardian reader, foaming at the mouth says:

    Same old nasty party trying to stop the wonderful undocumented immigrants, who make such an amazing contribution to our many communities, from buying wine.

  5. 5
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    I’m perhaps not a model consumer, but I don’t give a shit about the colour of the packaging when I’m deciding what to buy. So the central arguments about that stuff are over my head.

  6. 6
    Loungelizard says:

    You have a very short memory.

  7. 7
    Anonymous says:

    Are they still allowed to smoke inside part of the House of Commons? If so, shouldn’t that be banned or is it only a nuisance if us screbs do it?

  8. 8

    Looks like Dave and Nick are happy to continue and expand on Blair and Brown’s big government.

    plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose and voting UKIP is unlikely to help either

    looks like we are screwed

  9. 9

    So it’ll be a control of booze packaging next, then. Now we know.

  10. 10
    Andrew says:

    @Guido: “Both measures are patronising nanny-statism of the worst kind and should be opposed.”

    I would agree IF the existed in the UK a proper system of private health care with premiums linked directly to the life-styles and health of every individual.

    In this case – people really should be allowed to do what they like since they are paying for the treatment of the consequences through higher insurance.

    With the current system – where the costs of poor health choices by certain individuals are born by the whole of society – then it is right that some effort is made to modify behaviour given the lack of proper individual incentives to do so.

  11. 11
    yeah, right.... says:

    One day, a little light will go on in one of the tiny brains in one of these half-wits’ heads. A ureka moment when they will realise that:

    1. Booze and fags bring in tonnes of cash by way of duty.
    2. Heavy consumers of both who pay the most in duty and are less likely to be adding to the pensions crisis.

    We have an ogoing debt problem, a looming energy crisis, a demographic time bomb with regard to pensions and care, falling education standards and endless other woes, and this twit of a government is arseing around with the one thing that brings in guaranteed cashflow.

    It beggars belief.

  12. 12
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    I’ve had a go at tesco’s plain-green-tin lager. its ok. Its taste wasn’t brilliant so I didnt bother any more.

  13. 13
    D L George says:

    Email tracking and now this. It took Labour several years before showing their Stasi cards, this lot are managing it in less than two.

    What happened to small government and removing Labours zealous laws?

  14. 14
    Jack says:

    Bland fag packets make no difference. Ask any Matelot who used to smoke “blue liners” before some government minister banned them on supposedly health grounds.

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    yeah, right.... says:

    But then they live to be 100 and those same taxpayers get pan-handled to pay for their pensions instead.

  16. 16
    Anonymous says:

    The current tobacco proposals should have been introduced 30 years ago.

    The phrase “nanny state” is vacuous and could be used to argue for abolition of most government activities.

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    Stinkfinger says:

    I’ve given up trying to be a responsible member of society who does their part.
    Being treated like a C*nt just because I drive a car,smoke a fag and like the odd pint.
    Get your tits out nanny I’m ready to suck.

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    D L George says:

    Correct, and your point is?

  19. 19
    Spartacus says:

    Last government was a ‘Nanny knows best’ government.

    So nothing’s changed then.

  20. 20
    madasafish says:

    I am happy to let people drink and smoke and kill themselves as long as they:
    don’t kill others
    cost the tax payer nothing.

    Neither is true of course…

  21. 21
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    I’m so glad its not tons of cash. Theres an EU directive against them.

  22. 22
    Desperate Dan says:

    So Labour suspend Lord Ahmed from the Party because he’s offered a $10million bounty for the capture of G. Bush and B. Obama AND NOBODY SAYS A WORD ABOUT IT. There can be no excuse for the supression of this news.

  23. 23
    Spartacus says:

    Nanny knows best. Drunk your warm milk? Off to bed now.

  24. 24
    rick says:

    ++++ 1

  25. 25
    Stinkfinger says:

    Not just pensions but hip,knee,heart ops plus decades of drug prescriptions.
    Mobility scooters and adapted bungalows.The list is fucking endless.

  26. 26
    The Fabian Society says:

    Brainwash ‘em young!

  27. 27

    Thousands of pages of tobacco industry docuements including:

    – marketing to kids
    – packaging
    – political corruption
    – use of third party organisations as fronts – links to other conservative causes

    etc etc



  28. 28
    Polly's Villa in Tuscany says:

    Let’s be honest. The people this hits most health-wise are the people that are going to end up a burden on society anyway. Let them smoke 60 a day and drink a few gallons of cheap cider. They’ll self-euthanize and generate a bunch of tax revenue along the way. We are all financially better off for it.

    Apart from their totalitarian tenancies, the only reason the Left are trying to cut down smoking and drinking is that it reduces their pool of potential voters.

  29. 29
    Big Brother says:

    Careful now, we know where you live.

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    Call Me MayBe says:

    How much are you selling 200 for?

  31. 31
    D L George says:

    Andrew Lansley – “The tobacco industry should have no business in the UK”.
    He, or any other politician has no bloody business saying that. Hopefully this will add to the Conservatives rapidly draining fan base.

    By your logic, anyone with private health insurance should be excluded from legislation. They’re not doing that though are they? they’re just continuing on with Labours totalitarian “Mother knows best” attitude.

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    Anonymous says:

    Careful with that “c” word or you’ll find yourself up before the beak quicker than you can say ” My councillor’s a c***t”.

  33. 33
    Stinkfinger says:

    I resent having to inhale the exhaust fumes from cars driven by non smokers.

  34. 34
    D L George says:

    Oh bugger.

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    Widescreen2010 says:

    Last time I saw it costed, yer average smoker donates far more in tax than he costs in medical treatment, and then dies before he claims much pension.
    Lighting up is the most public-spirited thing you can do.

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    sockpuppet #4 says:

    I saw that in the daily mail. perhaps inviting all and sundry to post shit through his postbox was of greater importance.

  37. 37
    T. Blier (war criminal) says:

    Nope, still not worth turning myself in for.

  38. 38
    Cell time says:

    Sky, DM, BBC and Telegraph all headlining ‘Far Right Salute’

    Brevik was doing a ‘Black Power’ salute in my opinion, and the Nazi salute is socialist anyway, re-education, re-education, re-education,

  39. 39
    D L George says:

    I miswrote. I meant ‘Nanny State’ = vacuous = correct.

    My heads not in the game. Need a cuppa.

  40. 40
    Albert Hall says:

    This is what I expect from a socialist government not a Tory one!

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    Delusion Central says:

    The nuances of what constitutes a nanny state are obviously lost on you.

  42. 42
    What I say is gas the buggers says:

    Only an idiot confuses Nazism with Socialism. (Sadly there are plenty of idiots around especially on the internet).

    Socialism might be a busted flush but lets pay some attention to historical accuracy, hmmm?

  43. 43
    Felicity Kendal Mint Fake says:

    Hmmmmn so Guido are you for legalising other drugs such as Cannabis, Cocaine, Heroin, Gin (oops sorry legal already)?

  44. 44
    Widescreen2010 says:

    Does anyone reading this blog know any senior Conservtives?
    If so, please pass on this message:-
    Stop interfering in our lives. Go and run the government properly, like you’re being paid to do.
    Oh, and tell Landsley to fuck off while you’re about it.

  45. 45
    Counterfeiters says:

    Plain Packaging!!!??

    Splendid idea!

  46. 46
    Call Me MayBe says:

    If you work in the Private Sector and cant afford a Pension surely it is better to start smoking, eat junk food, binge drink, and then die young before you get dementia.

    Since you will probably pay more in tax than what you will get out in any sort of gov’t spending you will also help pay off the national debt.

  47. 47
    Non Smoker says:

    Maybe if you used your common sense and not smoked we wouldn’t need a “nanny state”

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    What I say is gas the buggers says:

    By this logic, all taxes on fags should be removed, saving billions in pension outgoings as the great unwashed go full out for their Darwin award.

    Indeed why not encourage it? Smoke 40 a day get a free funeral on the state, it’s a small amount compared to the pension savings.

  49. 49
    Sack Cameron - Elect A Tory says:

    Mark my words – They’ll be updating Cones Hotline before long

  50. 50
    Turd Class says:

    I believe it was the poo mail that did for him.

  51. 51
    Spotty Lizard says:

    Were you born a stupid bastard, Guido, or do you have to practice in front of a mirror?

  52. 52
    Mr White Van Man (Import Specialist) says:

    I couldn’t agree more, must dash got a ferry to catch.

  53. 53
    Bogeyman says:

    Is it my enfeebled memory, or didn’t the Tories say they would make it core policy to devolve power and decision-making downwards? You know, like letting the landlord decide whether to allow smoking in an isolated room at the back of the pub, a measure that would undoubtedly save more from closure.

    What do we get instead? The same old nannying, authoritarian micro-management in the worst traditions of New Liebour. Not even the ghastly Patricia Hewitt and her smoking gestapo tried to dictate the colour of a packet of fags.

    As David Hockney said yesterday, what a nasty country we are turning into.

  54. 54
    rick says:

    The Nazis were National Socialists. The clue is in the name.

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    Not Dave's Fag says:

    The countdown has begun on Useless and Hopeless.

    With some luck the Council elections will prove a turning point and these non Tory Tories will realise they have little support for “their ploicies”. We need leadership and Tory policies not this neo socialist bullshit.

  56. 56
    Four-eyed English Genius says:

    National Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei

    Sozialistische Got that?

    Any easy mistake to make, especially as this translated means:-

    The German National Socialist Workers Party.

    I wonder where the confusion could have arisen?

  57. 57
    Backwoodsman says:

    How about reversing the ban on smoking in pubs instead, before the last few out there go to the wall ??

  58. 58
    Porridgeman says:

    Yep. The thought police in the form of Bexley Council are after anyone who dares utter a word of criticism – specially the word c**t


  59. 59
    Peter Hitchens says:

    We should just tell them all to fuck off
    What are they for?
    Defend me?
    Ignore them and they will just go away and enjoy a life of sodomy and lesbianism

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    yeah, right.... says:

    A tonne is heavier than a ton.

    Fag duty brings in tonnes of cash, but even more tons.

    Which is heavier, a tonne of pedants or a tonne of lead?

  61. 61
    Charles says:

    Perhaps they’ll bite the bullet and nationalise the Tobacco industry. The cost and lack of choice to the consumer would all be benefits as far as the government is concerned.

  62. 62
    a note to politicians says:

    Oh just fuck off out of our lives the lot of yer. Just piss off.

  63. 63
    A Prick Posing as PM says:

    I say chaps! – absolutely BRILLIANT picture! – pointing in opposite directions sums us up perfectly! – watt?

  64. 64
    Call Me MayBe says:

    Comment based on this meaning:

    a member of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.

    While your comment based on this meaning

    derogatory a person who holds and acts brutally in accordance with extreme racist or authoritarian views.

    Personaly I think a Far Left is a better description than Far Right for many reasons but one good example would be that both the Fabians and the Nazi’s in the 1940’s believed in eugenics

  65. 65
    yeah, right.... says:

    Somewhere in Soho, there is a bright spark in a PR company trying to work out how he can pitch the line..’Tobacco; the answer to the pensions crisis’

  66. 66
    Peter Hitchens says:

    If I wished to inject a gallon of bleach into my arsehole for my my private pleasure
    WTF has it got to do with any other person other than my GP ?
    Who BTW I fucking pay a huge salary to

  67. 67
    Nick says:

    Good news for counterfeiters.

  68. 68
    Desperate Dan says:

    I’m enjoying seeing them tying themselves up in knots over the story. They spend half their time insisting that suicide bombers and Islamicx terrorists must have their human rights but they would dearly love to deny human rights to Breivik because they don’t want him to speak in open court. The BBC is probably arranging for an assassination to spare them the problem of reporting it.

  69. 69
    Sir Aston Martin says:

    Is that really you, Polly? Talk about a Damascene conversion!

  70. 70
    yeah, right.... says:

    Wholly unacceptable to compare Fabians with Nazis.

    At least the Nazis looked smart.

  71. 71
    Big Brother says:

    tonne = 2205 lbs

    ton = 2,240 lbs

    (like everything american) short ton = 2,000 lbs

    so much for education . . .

  72. 72
    Sir Aston Martin says:

    Tramp goes into a chemist’s shop and asks for a pint of meths. The pharmacist refuses to sell it to him — the tramp, an eloquent sort, eventually persuades him that the meths is for his teeny cooking-stove, the only comfort he has in this harsh world, and the only bit of warmth in the wretched shelter the tramp has made for himself under the railway arches.

    So the pharmacist turns to go into the back and fetch the meths, when the tramp says, “By the way, have you got a cold one?”

  73. 73
    yeah, right.... says:

    Er, yes. Why not? The current prohibition isn’t working and serves to enrich a uber criminal class and make miserable the lives of the poor who get their stuff nicked by desperate addicts.

    We could also lose a legion of Drugs Outreach workers, and their ilk, from the public payroll.

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    A Nicōtine Nązǐ says:

    We know best you know! – we’ve been on lots ‘n lots of courses!

    Anyway, – because of your attitude you are now enrolled on a Personal Health Awareness Course. Attendance is mandatory and – like speeding punishment edyerkashun courses – you’ll have to pay for it.

  75. 75
    Spartacus says:

    not the deadly leaves ! nanny says no!!

  76. 76
    Sophie says:

    Some younger “progressive” Tories I know are fully paid up nanny statists.

    One of Cameroons ne “Hitler youth” actually stated that he thought legislation should be bought in for all motorcars over 150bhp.

    To dis-encourage people to buy them, this so called Tory wanted the seat belts & air bag covers to be compulsory dayglo pink.

    I imagine that Aston, Bentley & Rolls Royce sales would be affected by that – but it goes to show just how ingrained this nanny statism is within the detoxified Conservative Party under Cameron.

    And probably explains why Nigel Farage is a very happy man.

    Vote UKIP.

  77. 77
    Anonymous says:

    Regular boozers and smokers are addicts, they might have given up smoking or boozing but hey are still addicts and any bad incident and they start again. The HoP should be booze and smoke free as they expect the plebs to be, after they are supposed to be making the laws of this country

  78. 78
    Gonk says:

    The last horrific government was heading for a complete ban on tobacco and in some sort of reversal of acceptable vices was trying to legalise soft drugs.
    This shambolic fascist mob are heading in the same direction. There’s gonna be trouble.

  79. 79
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    I once had a teenager with an essay to do, who was going to start off with a bit about the seating plan of some parliment a bloody long time ago in France. I disagreed. However, in a debate about “left” or “right”, its as irrelevant as anything else to ask “where would they have sat in the french parliment in 1795?”

  80. 80
    bird with small brain says:

    My guess is that Guido is a smoker and that is tobacco addiction speaking. And he’s probably under the illusion that he’s going to keel over smartly just when old age becomes a nuisance. Not so: what in fact will happen is that his old age will start at least ten years earlier than it would if he was a non- smoker, and he will spend the last eight years in a wheelcchair having had both his legs amputated due to intermittent claudication.

  81. 81
    Peter Hitchens says:

    That homo Clegg is a smoker
    Mc Camermong also smokes
    The paperboy has been photographed with a prostitute and a line of cocaine
    And these cheeky front bottoms imagine that they were “born to rule”
    Ozzie the paper boy and the son of a midget rimming the contry
    *slaps head*

  82. 82
    Gawd Help Us says:

    I have a feeling we’ll be hearing the phrase “lessons will be learned” quite a lot from all three main parties on May 4th.

  83. 83
    Breather says:


  84. 84
    Widescreen2010 says:

    It sounds cruel, but this issue should be debated in full knowledge of the financial facts and consequences.

  85. 85
    Raving Loon says:

    smoke and drink as much as you like, and pay for the consequences if you get ill, is that not fair?

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    GCSE A* says:

    perhaps a tonne weighs more than a ton if you do it in grams?

  87. 87
    Ah! Monika says:

    Just spoken to local Tory Councillor. Shakes her head, ” Fed up”.
    She says every time there’s a local Election Dave opens his mouth and buggers it up. Why can’t he just keep quite for a month beforehand.

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    A Counterfeit Tobacco Importer says:

    We don’t sell them as they are “gifts” for friends and family.

    However, there is a £40 administration charge per pack of 200.

  89. 89
    Anonymous says:

    Boozers have been closing for years well before smoking ban, if you are desperate you can smoke outside then go back in, far too late to stop the slide into far few pubs, pub companies could of course reduce the rents but what do you think of the likely of that?

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    sockpuppet #4 says:

    I might get into pedantic overdrive and insist that a tonne is not a measurement of weight, but a ton is.

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    Not Dave's Fag says:

    This must be one of the worst group of Conservatives in history.

    They have clearly been taking lessons from the Executive at East Herts District Council.

    Elected dictators who keep tell us they are listening, remain accountable and are transparent.

    I knew education in the UK had hit rock bottom but are people out there really this stupid?

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    sockpuppet #4 says:

    I might get into pedantic overdr-ive and insist that a tonne is not a measurement of weight, but a ton is.

  93. 93
    The Sheikh Of Arabeee says:

    Don’t expect any sense from this fucking knobhead.

    Wasn’t he the fucking c u ntwaft who came up the idea that you could put fucking chip readers on fucking lampposts so the kiddies could swipe them as they went past and earn points? I mean- for fuck’s sake, the fucking sheer inanity of that is fucking world fucking class.

    Then the brimcheese-brained wonderboy did a fucking deal with fucking Mars and fucking Kellog’s and all other kind of fucking pruveyors of cheap fucking fat-laden fucking shite masquerading as food for plebs- to promote healthy fucking eating! ER- won’t the kiddies (the ones who can read that is) be influenced by the marketing and packaging?

    It’s a fucking big field in the Cu n talition as who is going to win the title of “The most fucking useless fucking inept fucking waste of space simultaneously utterly symbolic of the whole fucking fart-brained clusterfuck that is meant to be a centre-right government getting us out of the fucking mess the last lot left”. Lansley’s winning- I thought it might be that fucking shitsmear Huhne, but it’s looking like this fucking jizzmop is going to win it.

    Cameron- know why you and your bunch of public school/Oxbridge PR/business school/PPE fucking wankers won’t get my vote or my money or even the steam off my shit? It’s because this fucking sream of festering fucking baboon jism and his fucking ‘eye-catching initiatives” typifies just how fucked we became once we let you grab the wheell. You c u n t.

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    Ah! Monika says:

    I’m not a smoker, but will guarantee they don’t taste the same from a brown envelope. Like persuading Guido Guinness tastes the same in England.

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    yeah, right.... says:

    Perfectly fair. In fact, they could charge a levy on the price of each in case one is too busy smoking and drinking to pay said charges.

    Oh, wait a minute…..

  96. 96
    Lord Stansted says:

    very good!

  97. 97
    Loungelizard says:

    Wing Commander Farage should be delighted that Fighter Command is to be increased by 20 Spitfires brought back from service in the far east.

  98. 98
    Lord Stansted says:

    Fortunately, I don’t live in Bexley.. Hell, does it matter? I do live in green fascist Britain after all.

  99. 99
    Nigel Farage says:

    I don’t suppose this could have anything to do with this European Directive from our real Lords and Masters?

  100. 100
    Boris 4 PM says:

    But how can Boris be our next PM? He has to sign a 4 year contract to be Mayor, is he allowed to break it? Then there is the question of him getting a safe seat or a Lordship and I’m not so sure Dave and George would help him.

    I wish he was our PM now.

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    All benfit claimants should be forced to smoke says:

    Not only are they “going to end up a burden on society”, they probably are a burden on society, i.e. they’re most likely on benefits.

    If they want to splurge their benefits on booze and cigs, great! The high duties mean the benefit money’s returned to the Chancellor.

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    yeah, right.... says:

    Mincing your words is hardly going to help, now is it?

  103. 103
    calling Clint says:

    where’s he getting the money?

  104. 104
    Little Dictator Dave Cameron says:

    I make no claim to be “listening”. I don’t listen to anyone.

    Not unless they’ve given me a cool quarter of a million, first.

    Toodle pip!

  105. 105
    Yates.."Of the Yard" says:

    Gizza Quid

  106. 106
    jgm2 says:

    Bexley. Twinned with Canada.

  107. 107
    Hates Hypocrites says:

    Anybody unbiased who has looked at the real health studies knows that smoking isn’t half as dangerous as the thickshitted gullible sheeople have been conned to believe.

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    Gonk says:

    Any other personal advice you’d care to offer ?
    How about where to walk .. for safety reasons of course.
    Perhaps who I can associate with and where ? What to think and say ?
    You know best !

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    Impartial Observer says:

    They are all the same. Democracy does not exist in this country.

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    Benny the Ball says:

    Ho ho ho Stinky, /I hope your fate keeps you well and fit for your lifetime and does not let you become chronically sick or disabled before you croak.

  112. 112
    jgm2 says:

    Brilliant idea. If there’s one thing guaranteed to fuck the tobacco industry it would be to nationalise it.

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    Ex Conservative Voter says:

    He won’t be the next PM. Dave will lead his cowardly Europhile Cons to defeat in 2015 and the Party will turn on itself and possibly split apart. There won’t be a Conservative PM for decades. The last left in 1990, so we could easily still be waiting 30 or 35 years from now. By which point Boris will probably be pushing up the daisies.

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    Ah! Monika says:

    Boris could do both jobs on a one day week

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    What I say is gas the buggers says:

    How tedious to point out to the thickos in the back row that Nazism bears no relation to any socialist (ie Marxist) theory but instead utilized capitalist economics and corporate forms of organisation of capital.

    Compare the Russian revolution to Hitler’s Germany and Mussolini’s Italy and you get the general drift.

    Its the same as when you visit America, and you buy American Cheese, you might think the clue is in the name but there’s no cheese in it at all …

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    sockpuppet #4 says:

    Remember Boris is a statist when he feels like it.

    He decides the kind of buses for londoners.
    No dri-nking on the train.

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    Spartacus says:

    Bought from India?

    Or are these the only planes that can land on the new ‘UKish Aircraft Carrier’.

  118. 118
    Ah! Monika says:

    Don’t worry, CCO read this blog. They have the message but don’t know what to do about it.

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    Loungelizard says:

    A great deal less under Labour.

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    The? says:

    “Full support of the Andrew Lansley”. Surely not THE Andrew Lansley?!

  121. 121
    Ivor Tapeworm says:

    A tun is 210 Imperial gallons. Now shuddup.

  122. 122
    Loungelizard says:

    No….from Burma, left over from the last bout of fisticuffs with Japs.

  123. 123
    annette curton says:

    Frigging hell!, what is an acceptable level of Government incompetence?, prat-ing about again with nanny state edicts. What about limiting the size of chip portions?, expect a green paper soon.

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    Gonk says:

    I really, really, really enjoyed that. A perfect rant.
    In a perfect world that post would be bellowed at the
    entire Conservative Party by the loudest angriest man
    in the World. Without any response allowed, under fear of castration.

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    sockpuppet #4 says:

    different news. theres a load of them buried in their original crates from 1945 somewhere in the jungles of Burma.


    A Downing Street source said: “The Spitfire is arguably the most important plane in the history of aviation” PR twaddle again. I have never heard anyone argue that.

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    Must get a pseudonym one day says:

    Look at a graph of pub-closures between 1990 and now – then try to explain the monumental change in the last 5 years.
    Facts can be so troublesome, can’t they.

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    Must get a pseudonym one day says:

    Lansley reveals his true inner nanny-socialist. Let’s hope he enjoys the same piano-wire treatment.

  128. 128
    Ivor Tapeworm says:

    Bring back cigarrette cards too. Perhaps some Pokemon ones to appeal to kids.

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    Ah! Monika says:


    HMRC Nonsense | Forbes

    Worth a read

  130. 130
    Ivor Tapeworm says:

    No, but you will find fasces carved on each side of the Lincoln Memorial.

  131. 131
    Splinter Groupy says:

    Like many MPs’ expense sheets cancer too does not exist in the Palace of Westminster.

  132. 132
    Tobacco Bootlegger says:

    Plain Packaging. Happy days!!

  133. 133
    Anonymous says:

    Nope.Thats why they’ll be defeated in 2015.

  134. 134
    Trahison des Clercs says:


  135. 135
    Ivor Tapeworm says:

    They want to listen. And read your emails.

  136. 136
    Trahison des Clercs says:

    May I suggest Brian Blessed to say it in a whisper

  137. 137
    Some Geezer wot pays his money and can't take his choice says:

    Once again, we can see that the whole system was devised by the Bud Abbotts of the world, where the Abbotts get all the benefit and the Lou Costellos (me and you) assume all the risk. You are right, Andrew– if the taxpayer is footing the bill, (s)he should have some say; go the extra mile and say that the people who have destroyed their health through boozing, smoking and whoring should NOT have the benefit of the NHS, and there will be all kinds of hell to pay for such a “Social Darwinian” opinion. It is purely BECAUSE of the moral hazard involved in the underwriting of bad behaviour with State programmes that we are in the fix we are in. It is also because the State has lost sight of the fact that Old Age Pension Schemes are essentially meant to be tontines, in which few collect though all contribute, and instead have become Townsend Plans (bribe older workers to leave the workforce to allow younger workers to become employed– although fewer and fewer younger workers actually seem to be doing so), that compounds the problem of the elders becoming net consumers of tax money instead of producers of it. The dirty little secret is that it really does pay to let people kill themselves young with bad behaviour if it means less pension cost down the road– “Thou shalt not kill, but needst not strive, officiously to keep alive.” Except that we ARE officiously keeping alive– and if we do, we should decide how the money is to be spent. Don’t just brush the whole problem off with a “What can you do? It’s all a fawny-rig anyway!” My father used to have an expression that amounted to, either do your business or leave the loo. We’re going to come to that.

    Here endeth the rant. Maybe something funnier next post.

  138. 138
    Call Me MayBe says:

    100,000’s of innocent people killed in Hitler’s Germany and Lenin’s/Stalin’s Russia as well as Mao’s China. All very tedious I am sure

  139. 139
    Splinter Groupy says:

    Probably on their backsides – or as the French would have it, leurs derrieres. Hope that helps.

  140. 140
    Whiz Bang says:

    The Science Channel yesterday showed their “Top 10″ best ever fighter aircraft – the Spit came a close second behind the no 1, th Mustang.

  141. 141
    Call Me MayBe says:

    I expect the BBC will find a way of reporting this in way that is negative to the Conservative Government .

  142. 142
    Anonymous says:

    Thats cus we have New New Labour in power now and Milltwat will be back circa 2015 with New New New Labour.Rinse.Repeat…ad infinium.

  143. 143
    Loungelizard says:

    Mustn’t upset the Yanks.

  144. 144
    Mr White Van Man (Import Specialist) says:

    We already do

  145. 145
    Maximus says:

    In a nutshell.

  146. 146
    Mr White Van Man (Import Specialist) says:

    salt AND fat, yep chips are doomed

  147. 147
    Maximus says:

    As is any reason for the abolition of most government activities. Clamped to the public teat no doubt.

  148. 148
    Gooey Blob says:

    To make 6 bottles of strong, decent quality wine for a couple of quid:

    Dissolve 1 kilo bag of sugar in water, allow to cool and pour into demi-john. Add 1 litre orange juice, 1 tsp pectolase, 1 tsp yeast, top up to within an inch of the top with tap water. Put in an airlock (or just stuff the top with cotton wool) and leave in a warm place for 6 weeks.

    Minimum alcohol pricing, my a**e!

  149. 149
    Pentangelis says:

    All these recent faux-pas by the Tories demonstate the complete cack-handedness of their press machine.
    Whilst Andy Coulson may well be ‘mad and bad’ at least he had a very safe pair of hands and is now sorely missed by these naive, inept idiots we now have running our fortunes.

  150. 150
    thickshitted gullible sheeople says:

    No, smoking is really dangerous, that’s why all those people who smoked in World War 2 died, and now there’s only 6 billion of us left! That’s just got to effect X-Factor voting.

    …so the Govt are right to continue NuLiebore’s policy of targetting sections of the populace and directing an expensive hate campaign against them for choosing to do something legal that they enjoy. Our politicians know that’s not what freedom is for.

  151. 151
    Airey Belvoir says:

    Don’t sugar-coat it, tell it straight!

  152. 152
    Really superior Civil Servant says:

    Look at a graph of pub-closures between 1990 and now

    I think you’ll find that as CO2 emissions have increased pubs have been closing – the only rational conclusion is that Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming is to blame.

    The only possible solution we’ve been able to come up with is to massively increase taxes on fuel bills, and destroy British business by making it uncompetitive and a laughing stock. We only hope we’ve done this in time (to ensure our Knighthoods).

    (Of course, if we’d consulted some statisticians or engineers we could have found out if there really was a problem, and if there was what the range of approaches were to effectively deal with it, but they almost certainly don’t have degrees in PPE or have had the benefit of a Classical education so aren’t worthy of our consideration.)

  153. 153
    Bazza says:

    Lansley you shithead:

    Bully-statism and bossing the little people about is what cost nulab a significant part of their fanbase. Yet here you are, a “conservative” who’s working on their re-election.

    Tories: admit you fucked up electing the HeirBlair Bunch. Only David Davis can help you now. Only when there is clear blue water between you and the snivelling socialist traitors will we have any semblence of democracy restored.

  154. 154
    Really superior Civil Servant says:

    Your thinking seems to be that there has been a change of policy when there has only been a change of politicians, who are the stooges for the Civil Service and the EU.

    …this lot are managing it in less than two

    Thank you, it’s nice to be appreciated, but a lot of the credit must go to Mr Cameron and Mr Clegg who have been supporting all EU policies all along. Thank God we didn’t have to deal with another Thatcher.

  155. 155
    The Bum Bum C u n t says:

    It was only a joke silly

  156. 156
    Bazza says:

    @ non bloody smoker

    Maybe if you did what I told you to do in the first place then you wouldn’t have to pay my goons taxes to enforce my will on you.

    Any more advice for better living?

  157. 157
    BBC - you must pay us to watch other TV channels says:

    Absolute rot!

    Now, any idea where we can get someone to do the voice-over on the Breivik translation – preferable someone who sounds a bit like Margeret Thatcher?

  158. 158
    Bazza says:

    Oh do fuck off.

    Enjoy that final decade of dribbling incontinent dementia.

  159. 159
    Bazza says:

    To be fair, the new Routemaster is a delivered campaign pledge and does raise him above HunteKente in that KK scrapped the original RMs early against a campaign pledge not to.

    With you on the booze-ban tho’. No-one voted for that.

  160. 160
    Hates Hypocrites says:

    That’s the thing, Politicians are invariably superficial scum who go for appearance and spin. They don’t grasp the idea that content might be more important.

  161. 161
    Really superior Civil Servant says:

    Is it my enfeebled memory, or didn’t the Tories say they would make it core policy to devolve power and decision-making downwards?

    Yes, devolve power and decision-making downwards to the Civil Servants.

    They were as honest with you as the LibLabCon can be – it’s not their fault if you keep thinking they’ve miraculously changed character.

  162. 162
    Bazza says:

    Nice one. Cheers.

    If it goes bad I could always flog it to trendies as eco-fuel.

  163. 163
    CCO says:

    All donations gratefully trousered.

  164. 164
    Owen Jones who shouts like a girl says:

    In Jeddah we uaes to call that Jeddah gin

  165. 165
    Haribo Halfwit says:

    That chap who used to do Gerry Adams was awfully good. He might jump at the chance of a new gig.

  166. 166
    Haribo Halfwit says:

    They’ll still have to get the photos of sick and diseased body parts on the boxes right, though.

  167. 167
    Hates Hypocrites says:

    Your underpants are unhygienic, you are ordered to only wear state brand ones that attract a higher rate of duty, smelly pleb.

  168. 168
    keredybretsa says:

    ‘ere we go again. Alcohol, ciggies, fattening foods and why not betting. This little lot could all be and probably are addictions. Do me a favour, let’s be honest, most of us have had (c’mon admit it) problems with one or all of them at some time in our lives.
    Us means not just us but them in the House as well. Hopefully most of us realised at an early age that we should either stop or cut down to reasonable proportions. Without the help of nannie-state dictating what we should or rather should not do. Putting higher Taxes on them would well mean that only the wealthy could be unhealthy, pissed up, coughing, burping and losing or winning lotsamoney. Leaving the rest of to enjoy these nasty, naughty habits only on rare occasions when we can afford them. By then we would have found some nastier affordable substitutes. Wanna bet anybody?????

  169. 169
    Govt_By_Cluster_Fuck says:

    Well i shall just have to grow me own baccy then. let them try and tax that and homebrew as well. Not like it is rocket science or anything.

  170. 170
    Referee says:

    Spend a weekend observing life in an A&E unit in most of our major towns or cities and you won’t come out a libertarian, I can assure you.

  171. 171
    bird with small brain says:

    Just in case you didn’t know smoking doubles your risk of Alzheimer’s so your logic is a bit dodgy.

  172. 172
    Prove it ar5ehole says:


  173. 173
    D L George says:

    Stricter punishment for drink or drugs related behaviour is a better way to go than constantly making life harder/more expensive for the rest of us.

    Alcohol price increase = youngsters drinking cheap booze before they go out
    Tobacco increase = people buying dangerous benzine / cyanide tobacco from abroad

    When are the f*** nuts in the HOC going to realise they’re only making things worse?

  174. 174
    The UK says:

    +70,000,000 – HoC

  175. 175
    Is there any hope anywhere? says:

    I thought ol’ Boris was in favour of having smoking rooms in clubs/pubs at the discretion of the owner/landlord – or was that before he was elected?

  176. 176
    Anonymous says:

    birdbrain , proof ? give a link to the research that shows this.

  177. 177
    brendan behan and dylan thomas says:

    a man who loves the drop is a man After our own hearts

    oh yes so he is
    no. plain Labelling for alcoholic bottles

    we may mistake them for a lemonade !!!
    thank you and good night and may you god go. with you.

    god bless all here. hick!!

  178. 178
    Bazza says:

    I believe he does favour choice, but it’s not within his gift.

    Mind you, nor was this total state of Verboten within nulab’s mandate to govern – their 2005 manifesto “pledge” was for further restrictions but explicitly allowing smoking rooms. John Reid was though, rather too moderate for the shrill harpies of ASH so their placewimmins were installed post-election to show us who’s boss.

  179. 179
    Bazza says:

    My logic would be dodgy indeed if

    1/ I concurred with your unattributed stat, which I don’t and
    2/ I had mentioned Alzheimers.

    As neither is the case, I will advise against further use of boomerangs in glass houses.

  180. 180
    Bazza says:

    They won’t have been sufficiently clear in explaining their policy triumphs to the little people.

  181. 181
    CLINT Cameron says:

    I’ve been dying to say this all day


    Lansley is a c’unt

  182. 182
    shitbag says:

    you’d think that some of these morons were paragons of virtue
    paragons of fucking hypocrisy if you ask me

  183. 183
    shitbag says:

    who determines bad behaviour again? – oh, you do
    fuck right off

  184. 184
    shitbag says:

    arse – how about abolishing you activities??? – fucking arse

  185. 185
    shitbag says:

    these are not tories – these is fascists

  186. 186
    shitbag says:

    ………. especially with all this global warming about

  187. 187
    shitbag says:

    oh do fuck off

  188. 188
    shitbag says:

    Tories are liars
    just like the rest of ‘em
    liars and fucking bastards
    all of them

  189. 189
    shitbag says:

    why can’t he keep quite ….. for evr, the shit

  190. 190
    shitbag says:

    i know about east herts district twats
    they are treasonable
    shitbags all of them

  191. 191
    shitbag says:

    all he needs to do is answer the phones and organise bin collections

  192. 192
    shitbag says:

    reminds me of my trip to Bordeaux

  193. 193

    The Sheikh gives us a perfect storm of angst and anger that there is fuck all we can do as voters to get an executive who is not going to fuck us over “for our own good”

    Dave and Nick conned us that they were an antidote to Blair and Brown and they are little by little revealing that are actually just more of the same.

    Borrow, spend, extend, pretend – the lies just keep getting bigger

  194. 194
    Pentangelis says:

    As a ‘reformed’ 60 a day man, it seems wholly immoral and unethical to tell us not to smoke, to tell us on the packaging that we will die from the habit, yet to continue levying a tax on the product.
    That to me is rank hypocrisy. If its that bad (and it clearly is) then why allow us to continue? There’s only one reason for this and we all know what it is.

  195. 195
    Flying Tiger Comics says:

    When oh when will these so-called experts learn?

    As long as gateway drugs like tiser, irn bru, coca cola and ginger beer remain on unrestricted sale to our youth it is little wonder that eventually they progress from sugar to harder drugs like lard, cigarettes and welfare handouts.

    What a con these so-called health laws are!

    B. Idiot,

  196. 196
    Atualpa says:

    Lansley is simply trying to ingratiate himself back in with the left wing BMA zealots, and Libdems, who have been giving him such grief over NHS reforms. I just wish they would cease their bullying remarks about booze, greasy food and cigarettes, (but why no mention for heaven’s sake of the huge damage being done by hard drugs?) and get on with practising medicine. It is hugely disappointing to see the Tories carrying on with the nanny state micro interference beloved of New Labour, I expected better from them, at least on this point.

    non smoker

  197. 197
    English Liberation Front says:

    Bollocks. You clearly have a vested interest in the nanny state and probably derive your ill-gotten income from it. Perhaps as a righteous council zealot, a green-obsessed finger wagger and nose poker, a supercilious health nazi, a health and safety jobsworth, a teacher brainwashing the young with leftist inspired tripe, someone earning from contributing to the projectile vomit of EU regulations or a modern politician with a background in wonkery and being spoiled by mummy and daddy in your gap year.

    Either that or you are one of those psychotic anti-smoking preachers, those tiresome femimen who worry more about people smoking in their own cars than you do about the persecution and massacre of Christians in muslim countries (for example).

    Tired of you. Tired of the causes of you.

    Go away.

  198. 198
    English Liberation Front says:

    That is an excellent point. Their “diversity”, “equality” and “fairness” only ever extends to diversity, equality and fairness they agree with.

    New Labour were close to National Socialism in many characteristics. Vile, evil bunch of gangsters twisting truth and manipulating words to deploy their Big Lies.

  199. 199
    English Liberation Front says:

    Idiot. God how I detest righteous little tossers like you.

  200. 200
    English Liberation Front says:

    Yep. Small brain alright. VERY small brain.

    Now go away.

  201. 201
    English Liberation Front says:

    When has that ever been pleasant? If you don’t like the heat get out of the kitchen.

    And btw, having seen over 60 years of human misery close up and personal I’m still a libertarian you supercilious, smug little twerp.

  202. 202
    Skinny says:

    You get many + for that rant, but, an extra special bonus for the word ‘jizzmop’
    And with that, feeling the rear sliding away, I apply a dab of oppo, and I’m gone.

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