April 11th, 2012

Tory/UKIP Defection Runners and Riders

Tim Montgomerie’s warning today that two Tory MPs are seriously considering defecting to UKIP has got the rumour mill spinning. As ever Guido gives you his tongue in cheek take on the runners and riders.

Mark Pritchard
Eurosceptic rating: 10/10

Pritchard is a serious contender. The secretary of the 1922 Committee resigned from his position as the Conservative Party’s International Office deputy chairman last month, telling the papers that his decision was a protest against Cameron’s weakness on Europe. Could he be about to jump ship?

Bill Cash
Eurosceptic rating: 10/10

Cash has a history of causing trouble over Europe, and was famously part of the Maastricht Rebellion that did for John Major. He has a fractious relationship with Dave and led a rebellion against the Coalition last year. Said to be reaching the end of his tether, though has stated on the record he does not want to quit the EU.

George Eustice
Eurosceptic rating: 9/10

An outside punt but it would be the completion of a journey for Dave’s one time Press Secretary who now leads a new group of moderately disgruntled eurosceptic Tory MPs. Guido can’t really see it happening due to the bright party career ahead but…

He’s ex-UKIP…

Douglas Carswell
Eurosceptic rating: 9/10

Carswell has long been an outspoken critic of the government, and ramped up the pressure on Cameron last year by suggesting that ministers could not be trusted to defend British interests on the continent. Extremely closed to fellow rabblerouser Dan Hannan. His name on a UKIP ticket would be a huge coup…

Jacob Rees-Mogg
Eurosceptic rating: 8/10

Everyone’s favourite eccentric backbencher lambasted the Tory leadership last year for allowing the Lib Dems to dictate Coalition policy on Europe, and has suggested that the EU could be the issue that brings down the government. He is even an expert on ‘flexicurity’…

Nadine Dorries
Eurosceptic rating: 8/10

To say there is no love lost between Nadine and Dave would be an understatement. Dorries has been strongly critical of Cameron’s stance on abortion, child benefit and his closeness to Nick Clegg, and was furious after her boss’ quip at PMQs that she was ‘frustrated’. Revenge is a dish best served cold and the party machine are not helping her with a little local difficulty in the Boundary Review.

While Guido understands that a defection isn’t imminent and Tim was obviously trying to put pressure on them not jump, there is clearly serious and growing discontent among Tory backbenchers. It can only be a matter of time…


  1. 1
    hoping says:

    Bill Cash cert

  2. 2
    Dishwasher says:

    Bet you that by the end of this Parliament, not a single Tory MP will have defected to UKIP. They’re all spineless.

  3. 3
    Martin Sewell says:

    All of them splendid in their own way. If they went en masse, we’d really see some fun!

  4. 4
    Chris Bryant says:

    Monty was talking about me God damn it! I want Farage rubbed all over me!

  5. 5
    Trem says:

    Those six, plus Dan Hannan and Nigel Farage would give UKIP a huge boost in the eyes of the media.

  6. 6
    Con MPs can bugger off says:

    So what! They’ve already shown their abysmal hand. Jumping ship makes them look like cowards.

    New UKIP MPs please. The last thing they need is a group of stuffy old Cons messing things up.

  7. 7
    Gilbert Fiddler says:

    Forgot all about him! Definitely on the cards, as is Nadine Dorries.

    This is all happening just at the right time – too many politicians never put the boot in when it hurts, they’re a spineless bunch really, and just pretend to be oh, so jolly angry… These two can, and will.

    Nice one to think of over the coming weeks.

    My pension prospects have tipped the balance well away from the Tories. They were utterly ruined by Nulabour though.

  8. 8
    Desperate Dan says:

    The Conservative Party will be vastly improved if that lot bugger off to join the other loons at UKIP. Let’s see how Farage handles their bile, blackmail and bigotry.

  9. 9
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Do you think so?

    I agree that they would give UKIP a big boost, but seriously, I doubt if the BBC would give them more than a few seconds air time.

  10. 10
    screw the lot of them says:

    Screw the media. They are part of the problem.

  11. 11
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    You might have to change your pants first!

  12. 12
    Deacons says:

    One of them is definitely Dorries given her “closeness” to Monty.

    She’s fallen out with the local and national party and burnt her bridges. She has suddenly discovered Euroscepticism having never shown any strength of feeling before.

    She has no chance of getting another seat if the boundary review goes through and knows it. UKIP have a vacancy on the euro elections for the East of England.

    So she will wait to see if boundary review goes through and if it does jump ship.

  13. 13
    Anonymous says:


    Tis just smoke and mirrors.

  14. 14
    Kevin T says:

    They should defect. Time to ditch the tired old parties which no longer represent anyone but careerist political wonks in North London.

  15. 15
    Chris Bryant says:

    I did that after Ken’s episode last night. Nothing I love more than a grown man, wiping his face with a tissue.

  16. 16
    Steve Miliband says:

    George Galloway? Once Bradford find out he’s shit

  17. 17
    Con MPs can bugger off says:

    You can keep the whole bloody useless lot of them.

  18. 18
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    The (allegedly) defecting Ministers are looking after themselves. They need to belong to the party which is going to be most successful.

    Self-interest. The biggest motivator on earth.

  19. 19
    Julius Geezer says:

    This is like a throwback to the 80’s with Shirley and friends ! What is needed is the people to vote out the current malaise !

  20. 20
    Anonymous says:

    How very principled of her. People like her need smoking out.

  21. 21
    Loungelizard says:

    None of this posturing makes any difference at all. Like it or not we’re all set to become Socialist Europeans. The so called elite that we spinelessly elect are all just administrators for the European Government. UKIP is a sad placebo which does nothing but weaken what’s left of the so called right.

  22. 22
    Sean Blake says:

    George Eustace made the most fantastic claim shortly before last year’s referendum on the voting system for parliament: namely that under AV a candidate could win a constituency from eighth place in the first round! Surprising to hear this MP, who was elected with under 38% of the vote in Camborne, wants to defect to UKIP – who just happen to support AV!

  23. 23
    JJ says:

    You may have to wait until later in the month for Dorries to jump ship

  24. 24

    Carswell is a kipper. The only reason he doesn’t jump is that he knows he would never get re-elected on a UKIP ticket. Pure self interest.

  25. 25
    Johnson, Boris Johnson says:

    Why is it the #ToryTotty and #MILFs that go to UKIP?

  26. 26
    Kevin Breslin says:

    Ministers? Thought they were backbenchers?

  27. 27
    Sir Aston Martin says:

    “Splendid”? MPs? Are you out of your fucking mind?

  28. 28
    Desperate Dan says:

    The Conservative Party should withdraw the whip from all of them then set about choosing new candidates in readiness for the next election. Otherwise these selfish bores will just be hanging around stamping their little feet, having tantrums all over the place and refusing to go.

    I’m sorry to see Peter Bone isn’t on the list. Can’t he be persuaded to join them.

  29. 29
    The British Public Interest says:

    Totally agree. if any of them believed in their country, they would have done something by now instead of going along with the treason.

  30. 30
    Laughing hangman says:

    Nadine, give her one, oh yes indeed

  31. 31
    The British Public Interest says:

    They are a waste of space. Alll mouth and no trousers.

  32. 32
    Anonymous says:

    They are all in nice safe Tory seats, I doubt they will switch

  33. 33
    The British Public Interest says:

    No-one likes a traitor. This lot have already sold the country out by going along with all manner of EU nonsense

  34. 34
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    A peculiar argument about AV. If one came 8th then pretty much everyone’s second preferences would have to be for you.

    You’d have a wierd sort of support if no-one was very keen on you, but everyone was mildly keen on you.

  35. 35
    Johnson, Boris Johnson says:

    It is a shame Naomi Long MP is so fat. I’d love to tell her what her name spells backwards.

  36. 36
    The vegetables will have the same says:

    It was an onion

  37. 37
    Andrew Efiong says:

    Nice one Guido, you’ve flushed them out.

    They’re all a bit eccentric. I think they’d fit right in at UKIP.

  38. 38
    Desperate Dan says:

    Didn’t George Eustace win his candidature by spreading nasty rumours about his opponent?

  39. 39
    cassandra king says:

    A social democrat regime of traitors and Quislings committed to selling out the British people, those within the old Tory party are either appalled at the base treachery of the leadership or agree with it or couldn’t give two sh*ts as long as they have their kommissars perks/allowed to enrich themselves.

    Not many patriotic MPs out of several hundred are there? Most content to help and assist the Quisling Cameron in betraying the UK into the hands of the new 4th Reich but we are coming to the point when even the thickest MP with the lowest IQ can clearly see where the Quisling social democrat regime of Cameron is going.

    Cameron has lied and cheated his own grass roots, his own party, who BTW wanted so much to believe his lies in the face of the evidence and his own MPs. The Judas goat Cameron has done his job well, his masters in Brussels will reward him well and the gullible party who fell for his lies for so long can no longer fool even themselves let alone us as to his real intentions and so its make your mind up time for them, do they stay and forever dirty their names and legacy with the label of Quisling traitor or do they take the hard but honourable course of jumping ship?

    The shameful truth is that the vast majority of so called ‘Tory’ MPs will follow the traitors of the Quisling regime knowing what they are and knowing what the end game is. The vast majority will enable and assist the Quisling regime in betraying their own people and nation, they are the degenerate ruling class elite who really couldnt give a flying f*ck who is ruling the UK just as long as they are on the gravy train.

    Out of hundreds of MPs only a couple of real patriots? Thats Westminster for you, thats the reality of those who rule us today, we would call them scum of the earth and traitors, they call themselves our elected representatives.

  40. 40
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    I wonder where they get the marks out of 10. it could almost be top trumps.

    Nadine gets top Loose cannon marks, and Rees-Mogg beats Farage any day on wierdo rating.

  41. 41
    I Remember You Hoo says:

    Yeah, Dave doesn’t need any of them, nice Nick and his band of lefties is where Dave’s interest lie. Why I bet in Dave’s all new fabian lefty gang there is room for the likes of Caroline Lucas et al in government as well.

  42. 42
    yeah, right.... says:

    Principles? These are professionial politicians, FFS.

  43. 43
    Anonymous says:

    They have not got the bottle they think they should be the leading lights and ministers

  44. 44
    Desperate Dan says:

    Calm down dear.

  45. 45
    I Remember You Hoo says:

    Cameron and his clique of fabian socialists, are the ones who need smoking out. They are destroying the party on the alter of environmentalism and socialism. If you can’t work that out, you are either with them, or too stupid for words.

  46. 46
    nellnewman says:

    Well all to the good whether they jump or not.

    Of course a strong tory jumping to UKIP that might give UKIP a seat in 2015 would be great.

    But also any pressure on cameron that would encourage him to strengthen his stance against the EU has to be welcome.

  47. 47
    BOB says:

    they would be better joining the looney party… OH THEIR ALREADY IN IT… DOH

  48. 48
    I told you so says:

    The worst thing Call Me Dave could have done is have a sneaky pop at Nadine Dorries. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. 51% of the population know this, or really ought to know it.

    On a side note, it seems Guido is attracting attention from afar


  49. 49
    I Remember You Hoo says:


    What’s more, they don’t even care that they don’t represent anyone but themselves and those who they run errands for.

  50. 50
    Aaron D Highside says:

    With backup from proper politicians like some of these, Nigel Farage would be a far, far better bet without his ‘one man band’ stigma, and real Conservatives are fed up with gutlessness.

  51. 51
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Sorry – my mistake – but they’re all on a good screw.

  52. 52
    A pragmatist says:

    There are two political parties in this country. UKIP and not UKIP.

  53. 53
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    These people have no principles.

    Just looking after No. 1.

  54. 54
    Cameron is Crap says:

    After Bradford West, is there any such thing as a “safe seat” for any party?

    The LibLabCon are frightened, and for good reason, and any Conservative MP who sticks with Dave “for safety” is a soon-to-be redundant imbecile.

  55. 55
    Ukippers says:

    Only two?

  56. 56
    The Golem says:

    Pretty accurate assessment. So far as the portrait gallery above is concerned, I won’t hold my breath.

  57. 57
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    Good screw?
    My mind will be permanently boggled.

  58. 58
    oooooh says:

    People have been told to ‘calm down’ when voicing their opinions for far too long.

    That is part of the problem.

  59. 59
    In the interest of balance says:

    Any defections to UKIP mean the Tories have less chance of winning the next election outright.

  60. 60
    Desperate Dan says:

    This lot are superfluous to requirements. We need MPs who can deal with the world as it is rather than the world as they’d like it to be.

  61. 61
    Lord Crawley says:

    Gnol ?

  62. 62
    I Remember You Hoo says:

    I am sure as the Conservatives completely out themselves as the pro-EU, socialist, command and control party they have become, many others could be persuaded to leave.

    Keep up the good work comrade!

  63. 63
    Cornishboy says:

    Ican assure you the lib dem incumbent in the camborne seat was unpleasant and claimed several thing on her expenses too he simply highlighted it. Camborne as I live too close to it would be a labour seat if it was not the south west only went labour once in 1997-2005. eustice has done a fair bit for the area too secured funding for some inter linking road and a few other things not much but then we can all ask ourselves what has our MP not government what has our MP secured for our area. He is in a very very tight seat and Cornwall is a very anti eu place this will help him in 2015. Sucking up to dave and chums won’t win the electorate over. Eu might give cornwall money every year but you only have to look at be damage they did to the farms and fisheries. Unlike other parts of the country who somewhat wrongly blame maggie for the mining demise we cannot we never had nationalised mines and they we could not compete in south America. He’s still an MP so not someone I want near me or I shall really ever like but he’s not bad. unlike others with safe seats he hasn’t got that luxury won by less than 100 votes MPs in his situation should distance themselves from dave or they like Icarus will get to close and crash and burn.

  64. 64
    Jimmy says:

    If it’s Lily Savage it’s hard to see how UKIP would recover.

  65. 65
    WVM says:


  66. 66
    so what says:

    Excellent. They deserve to lose.

  67. 67
    Anonymous says:

    Nigel’s gurning at nadine that would be worth watching, especially Nadine’s expression

  68. 68
    the beast of the polish pontins says:

    Apart from Nadine ( top level MILF)
    Just why should we GAF?
    Strict nurse who who wouldnt let “you kip” past 6am
    Bunch of fat dough faced chancers
    Bring on Nadine and Nigel Farage
    Maybe DDavies for a spot of DP

  69. 69
    Desperate Dan says:

    I wasn’t thinking of expenses. It was something about spreading insinuations about a rival’s sexuality. -

  70. 70
    Sir Aston Martin says:

    He’s even getting a drubbing in the Gruandia: they’ve analysed his lies about the “surplus” at TfL that’s supposed to pay for his promised cuts in fares.

  71. 71
    BBC NEWS says:

    The sheep will listen to what we tell them, up the revolution brothers!

  72. 72
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    It would be a black armband day for UKIP.

  73. 73
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    I don’t think it will happen. They have far too much to lose by jumping ship.

    It’s a shame, but there it is.

  74. 74
    Cornishboy says:

    Oh don’t worry it won’t affect our chances pretty sure the last few weeks has done that for us.

  75. 75
    Lord Jensen Interceptor says:

    What we really need is for you to fuck off back to the Grauniad.

  76. 76
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    Thats nothing. I’ve heard rumours that one LibDem MP has only ever shagged his wife.

  77. 77
    I Remember You Hoo says:

    Don’t forget all the horrifyingly expensive and useless green bullshit, throwing mony all around the world on our enemies and foreign space programs, not to mention the mass uncontrolled im migrat ion flood that has actually got worse under this shower of shite, socialist, red tory government. Mind you, Dave is doing sterling work promoting something vital for this country, gay marriage.

  78. 78
    Anonymous says:

    True regarding LibDems they should have remained independant but the call of power was too great

  79. 79
    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    About the only chance UKIP have of ever having any MPs!
    So if some self-promoting, narcissist, has been/never was, sorry, I mean principled patriot with only national interest at heart, were to do this, what good would it acutally do apart from promote the “tories split on Europe” theme for the Labour Party and the BBC? Most of the electorate don’t give a crap about the EU, they may be sympathetic to euro-scepticism, but it isn’t anywhere near a priority, it will just look like the Tory Party is navel gazing and having a an argument that nobody else gives a crap about, when there are more important matters to deal with first.

    But having seen UKIP candidates up close, I would say, it will most likely be the candidate that smells of dryed on piss and Golden Virgina, and married a close relative.

  80. 80
    Desperate Dan says:

    Ludicrous MPs like Rees-Mogg are what you get when you let a fool like Francis Maude choose the candidates.

  81. 81
    Cynical-old-bag says:


    The BBC used to be the epitome of unbiased news. Not any more.

  82. 82
    I Hate Tesco AND the Pope says:

    OK, Andrew. So who SHOULD vote for, if not UKIP? I’ll be the first one in three generations of my family not to vote Conservative next time and I won’t be switching without a feeling of depression and gloom. The reason is called Dave, the spineless, barely competent PR front man with as firm a grasp of political truth as Ken Livingslime. All he does is react to problems, usually disastrously. The Lib Dems are not even a joke any more. Where do I put my X? Farage may be laughed at by many, but he strikes me as having a far greater grasp of reality over the EU shambles than anyone since Enoch Powell. I never though we could have a bigger moron leading the country than the one-eyed Scottish wanker but Dave is coming up on the inside straight. Our only hope is that the party replaces him with David Davis, but I for one won’t be holding too much air in my lungs for too long.

  83. 83
    British political intrest says:

    What makes you think we are here for you lot !

  84. 84
    the beast of the polish pontins says:

    Dear James
    Have you ever looked at labour fanny?
    Your lot all look like a brickie in a trouser suit
    Even the the Lib Plhlegms egms have the ocassional “worth one”

  85. 85
    I Remember You Hoo says:

    The UKIP loony nutters meme, is getting more than a little threadbare. Is that all you really have left comrade?

  86. 86
    Anonymous says:

    Mogg’s old man was a Tory grandee

  87. 87
    Anonymous says:

    UKIP hasn’t got any hope in UK parliament. Unless they want to become MEP, I don’t see any of these jumping from the gravy train.

    Unlike most of you, I have voted UKIP in the past.

  88. 88
    Jimmy says:

    They have an inner beauty that others can never attain.

  89. 89
    Anonymous says:

    Tom Watson told us to “engage” with this blog because it’s supposed to be right wing.

    Now I’m all confused.

  90. 90
    Robert Mugabe says:

    Oh let them all fuck off. Half of the Tory party will lose their seats next time anyway- might as well start the purge now.

  91. 91
    Stan Arkwright says:

    UKIP’s problem is that they are a single issue party, and as such attracts single issue loons who truly believe that everything in the garden would be lovely if only their single issue was sorted. Nigel Farage a good performer for sure-hard to see how he can attract some fresh blood. Having Bill Cash types won’t help him.

  92. 92
    The Labour Party says:


    We sure could use a bit of the good old divided Tories…..

  93. 93
    Desperate Dan says:

    I’m a Tory voter who doesn’t like fifth column egomaniacs like Cash, Carswell, Pritchard, Eustace, Rees-Mogg and Dorries.

  94. 94
    Lord Jensen Interceptor says:

    It’s true. What a bunch of wasters but here we are 31 years later and their pals are running the country.

    I can only remember Owen – what a c’unt. Can’t even remember the name of the Shirley whore, only that she was fucking ugly.

  95. 95
    Cameron is Crap says:

    I’m trying to picture the gutless little Europhile creep Cameron “strengthening” his stance against the EU..

    As he lies like a grovelling little coward at van Rompuy’s feet, handing him £50million every single day, would he “strengthen his stance” by perhaps only slightly begging van Rompuy to take our money? “Please, oh great one, do take this money and waste it as you see fit, I beg of you, for it is only the wages of my fellow Britons” as opposed to “please please please with cherries on top, oh great one (etc etc etc.)”?

  96. 96
    annette curton says:

    Ah, the Lord Leveson Murdoch show trial, we will not tolerate any evidence/sub-missives that do not support our forgone conclusions that it was all the work of the evil News of the World, any references to other newspaper proprietors/groups, bent coppers (Motorman) will be ruthlessly suppressed, by order of commissariat.

  97. 97
    Oscar Wilde says:

    Peole say sometimes that Beauty is only superficial. That may be so. But at least it is not so superficial as Thought is. To me, Beauty is the wonder of wonders. It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances.
    -Henry Wotton, The Picture of Dorian Gray

  98. 98
    Cameron is Crap says:

    You’ve forgotten about Baroness Ashton, haven’t you?

  99. 99
    Cameron is Crap says:

    Single issue? Feast on this:


    Real Conservative policies, just like the Conservative Party used to have before Dave shat all over it.

  100. 100

    What you really mean is that they keep it well fucking hidden.

  101. 101
    Cameron is Crap says:

    Single issue? Feast on this:


    Real Conservative policies, just like the Conservative Party used to have before Dave sh@t all over it.

  102. 102
    I Remember You Hoo says:

    The world as it is?

    I have heard it all now, let’s just go along with the easy option, let’s do nothing as the country slides into a hellish anti-democratic shithole, throwing money at foreign dictators and space programs. Whilst telling poor people in this country, to feel proud obout having money forcibly removed by government, so that it can be pissed away all around the world, on diversity initiatives and gay rights agendas. Tool.

  103. 103
    Cameron is Crap says:

    Anything that gets Cameron out of Number 10 – even if his replacement is Militwit – has to be regarded as progress.

  104. 104
    WVM says:

    I guess those labour lezzers have very long tongues.

  105. 105
    Fish says:

    Yep! One of Major’s bastards, single issue loony who can’t see beyond the end of his nose. No great loss.

    Dorries? Anything for a headline.

    Both from the Homer Simpson wing of the party. Vote UKIP, get Miliband, get more Europe (Doh!)

  106. 106
    Anonymous says:

    No doubt in my mind now, a vote for Cameron’s conservatives, is a vote further down the path towards a united Europe. So what will be in the next treaty that Dave will veto, but will go ahead any way?

    It must be the big one this time, a political union, leading to the United Sates of Europe, and run by Germany.

    All three major parties are just waiting for even more of the world war two generation to die before taking us further into a united Europe and most definitely, without a referendum. Heseltine, Howe and Mandelson will see to that! as well as the rest of the rich,powerful EU elite.

  107. 107
    Keith Dovkunts says:

    Feck! You’re still alive. Thought you’d be speeding your way up to heaven by now – faster than the Nazi’s got their ill-gotten gains to the Vatican . . .

  108. 108
    Glyn H says:

    Dorries is so third rate/silly that I cannot but think she would not be welcome in UKIP. They have experience with self-regarding second rate prima donnas before; vide Kilroy Silk. Now if Hannan and Carswell came over Farage would have some serious and competent companions and UKIP might get better and fulller media attention.

  109. 109
    R.U. Shaw says:

    Nurse !! Nurse !! NUUUURSE !!

  110. 110
    Anonymous says:

    If you vote for any one of the three main parties, then you are supporting their views on Europe and that is further integration(without a referendum) into a United States of Europe. They can do this because you vote for them and keep giving credence to their Euro federalist dream.

    When will you ever learn?

  111. 111
    I Remember You Hoo says:

    And the PR boy Cameron’s principles are what precisely?

    We know about being pro-EU, utterly useless windfarms, taxing poor peoples snacks, the state monitoring everything we do, tax cuts for rich people, expensive energy for all, gay marriage, the state telling us all how to live our lives, forcing pensioners to take out loans if their heating ever packs up, pissing our tax money around the world to feed his giant ego as a “global leader”, is there anything I have missed?

  112. 112
    bbc comptroller says:

    what ever happens please rest asured that the BBC will not give the oxygen of publicity to rabble rousing populists and eurosceptics. We’ll have those nice greens on again to explain that Soviet Russia with its brilliantly planned economy and liqidated kulaks was much more environmental than wicked capitalist well fed Britain.

  113. 113
    I Remember You Hoo says:

    No they would not. It would be hatchet job reporting on overdrive, rather than as it is, almost completely ignored.

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    Hugh Janus says:

    Dead right.

    “…there is clearly serious and growing discontent among Tory backbenchers.” The party’s traditional supporters are pretty pissed off too. Rusty Dave needs a bloody good kick up the arse with a few defections, but if he wants to spend another 13 years on the sidelines while Liebour finish the job of wrecking the economy then he just needs to carry on as he is.

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    Distraught master & commander says:

    After listening to DC on sky news just now @1715 desperate stuff the old chestnuts coming out-I promised before the election- weve had it all before dave.
    Why dont you try and stop spending so much then you wont need to raise extra tax the folk have more dosh in their pocket to spend which grows the economy, hope its not to much like Mrs Thatcher’s philosophy for you.
    Act quickly dave the next GE is only relatively around the corner your already leaking voters to ukip.

  116. 116
    Hugh Janus says:

    Yes, spot on.

  117. 117
    nellnewman says:

    Alas if we are voting in the current system any intelligent person has to take account of how their vote will affect the outcome of their constituency.

    No good voting for UKIP in a strong tory constituency if by doing so you then give the vote to a possible labour mp.

    I’m actually sorry we don’t at least have a couple of UKIP MP’s from last election – seems unfair given that the extremeist green woman got in when hardly a soul in the UK would have supported her.

    But that’s life. Hopefully in 2015 UKIP will get a couple of MP’s in place – then it’s a question of them building an electoral base over time.

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    Lord Jensen Interceptor says:

    It’s true. Redwood took on Major but now he is not interested in taking on Rusty. All he wants now is lots of tax free secretarial/duck pond/mortgage/transport/junket allowances and his 65 Grand salary.

    Why look for trouble when you can scam this amount for doing nothing?

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    pissed off voter says:

    Who’s got the bottle for it?

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    Hugh Janus says:

    Nicely put, nothing to add, says it all.

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    I Remember You Hoo says:

    Two lies in one post, most impressive. Of course the truth is a little harder to come to terms with. Why do you idiots even bother with your Miliband bogey man routine. On every issue, bar implimentation or management, Cameron and Miliband are joined at the socialist hip. Two leaders one destination.

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    jgm2 says:

    The BBC were never the epitome of unbiased news. George Orwell worked for the BBC – where do you think he got his inspiration for Winston Smith’s ‘fictional’ job re-writing the news?

    The big lie is that the BBC was ever unbiased and has somehow been laterally inflitrated by fifth columnists.

    It’s like the old gag about Punch magazine. Not as funny as it used to be. Mind you, it never was.

    Same with the BBC. Not as unbiased as it used to be. Mind you, it never was.

  123. 123
    I Remember You Hoo says:

    Tell fatty Tom, the old left / right charade has been seen through and people know what’s going on in the LabLibCon phoney war.

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    Some Geezer wot isn't much of a horse-race punter, but this is a sure thing says:

    They’ll ALL go down at Beecher’s.

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    I didn’t even make the list. How disappointing.

    I have discovered during many years as a part-time backbencher that its best to threaten some defection on a particularly good news day for the PM. Resign on Black Rod day. resign on local election day etc.

    That way the whips rush round with some sort of olive branch.

    Once I got the actual olive branch – The chairmanship of the quango for the importation of sweet fruits, olives and figs.

    £38k for 2 days a month. + loads of Mediterranean travel

    Wonder what they’ll offer this time? I quite fancy something West coast. Californian wines and grapes, FDA integration committee?

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    Guardian reader, foaming at the mouth says:

    Same old Tories. The “nasty party” as the group leader on my quango’s recent minority ethnic celebration course called them. That’s why I support a progressive Labour party led by Ed Miliband. We will work to bring the people together with the EU setting our budget. This is in fact more democratic than the current system.

  127. 127
    annette curton says:

    Six days and nineteen hours Ken.

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    Tooth fairy says:

    The local elections could very well tip the balance.

    Discontent is rife.

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    Marmite says:

    You really are a nutter c.i.C., and you also have a very short memory. Poor sod.

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    if you want to know more about today’s programs…you are a spy!
    To the Gulag.

    *Editor’s note. There are no Gulags. They were an invention of the imperialist,capitalist, mercantile elite. What really happened was some 4-5 million people decided it would be nice to live in Siberia for 20 years.

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    jgm2 says:

    If we all dealt with the world as it is rather than working towards making it better we’d all still be living in caves.

    Cromwell, the S&P and even the history of the Labour party shows what can be achieved if, instead of accepting the world as it is, you actually get off your arse and try and change it.

    Otherwise we’d all still be living in an absolute monarchy. Or be flip-flopping between the Whigs and the Tories. I reckon a few UKIP defections could (possibly) be the start of a genuine change in UK politics. Particularly if a Labour MP jumped ship too.

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    Hang The Bastards says:

    Its about time true Tories moved to UKIP (a REAL Conservative Party)….

    Also UKIP now deserves the airtime from MSM, since they have wiped the floor with the tree-hugging-terrorist-loving-leftie-liberal-useless-tvvats

  133. 133
    Distraught master & commander says:

    Rank and file labour supporters are not all that keen on the EUSSR Brown found that out via Sue!!!

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    Peterooo says:


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    Hang The Bastards says:

    If they jump ship, then hey presto UKIP have two MP’s…… Double that of the useless Green’s

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    polythesis says:

    The liblabcon are starting to get concerned, we can tell this by the number of liblabcon sock puppet astroturfers infesting this blog. The main aim of the liblabcon has been to infest forums with posts denigrating UKIP and its leader. You will note that the MSM by and large forgets that UKIP exists and there is a good reason for this, the liblabcon ruling class cannot have people choosing another party because it might break their tripartite stranglehold on eternal power. As the real differences between the big three melt away we see in all the big issues they are as one, it is the ruling class and the masses and the former doing their best to keep the latter down and compliant.

  137. 137
    Hang The Bastards says:

    No such thing as a SAFE Tory seat now… That was a thing of the past… The public has moved on and the politicians are playing catch-up.

    Just look at the response to the Thurrock EU Referendum. Now that shows the mood of the public.

    At the local elections expect to see UKIP vote double. It’s all about momentum and UKIP are the only ones on message.

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    jgm2 says:

    I know it’s the school holidays so perhaps that played a part but I was able to get to and from Heathrow uninterrupted today in under 50 minutes each way. The lack of traffic and indeed my own reduced mileage on account of the sheer cost of fuel has to be hurting the economy.

    We have friends who are so skint they can’t afford the fuel to dr*i*ve from Somerset to see their parents in Sussex. Now, if they could afford the fuel then they’d visit, maybe go for a pub lunch, buy some flowers for mum on the way and a bot*t*le of b*oo*ze for dad. Stimulate the fucking economy in other words.

    But they don’t. And the same effect is replicated several million-fold around the UK. The high cost of fuel is bringing the whole fucking operation to a grinding halt. And if the cost of fuel doesn’t do it then Len Mc-Fucking-Cluskey will.

    Slash the fuel tax. Stimulate the economy. Stop keeping half the country hostage in their own homes. It’s bad enough the BBC running articles on ‘staycations’ because folk can’t afford the fucking air-fare on account of 100 quid per person air-taxes. They can’t even afford to dr*i*ve to the fucking airport even if the flights were free.

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    Hang The Bastards says:

    Cameron is a fucking EU stooge. A worse traitor than McMental himself.

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    If you replace Gordon with Cameron then you sentence makes sense.
    Even the Milibean would be better than McDoom. Even Ed Balls would be. Even Abu Hamza would be.

    But with Dave..who would be better? being realistic?
    Osborne? – The taxman?
    Hague – Had his chance. Blew it.
    May – do be serious.
    Varsi – ?? Only if there’s a quota appointment.
    Davis ? – resigned to stand against himself? Worthy of Gordon that farce.
    Maude? Jerrycan Maude ?
    Lansley – The hospital privatiser?
    Letwin? – All those government snooping emails would turn up in the in outside his house.
    Pickles? – is the country ready for a heavyweight PM?

    Its got to be Mensch, hasn’t it?
    Because..whatever stupid policy she adopts; lightning tax – VAT on hot water – clean your own town week initiative etc – she has a get out.

    As she’s explaining the latest F~ck up on BBC News and getting a pasting she can always just face the camera, look serious, put her hands on her hips and pop two or three buttons on her blouse.

    “I’m sorry everyone. I’ve been very bad. Can you forgive me? You could, couldn’t you? I’m sorry I was so naughty…Ooops..I’ve dropped my pencil..better bend down slowly and pick it up..”

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    jgm2 says:

    No good voting for UKIP in a strong tory constituency if by doing so you then give the vote to a possible labour mp.

    Bollocks Nel. That’s precisely the wake-up call the T*ries need.

    The UK is fucked for a generation. Sure, if Labour get back in in 2015 they’ll just fuck it deeper and faster but in the broad scheme of things that’s the only choice we’re faced with at the moment. Either way we’re fucked until some grown-ups take control. And, apart from a brief moment right at the start, when Dave did away with ID cards there’s been precious little ‘low tax, small government’ since.

  142. 142
    Hang The Bastards says:

    Carswell speaks sense if you bother to read his blog !!!

    Are you the Tory’s own social media whore sitting there trying to smear conviction politicians who dare to speak out for the public. ??

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    hh says:

    Tom Fatson is a wobbly trifle with page 3 man boobs

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    joescotus says:

    plus plenty

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    Tachybaptus says:

    About time? I have not voted Conservative since Cameron was elected party leader back in 2005. I had him down as a wrong ‘un from the start. UKIP may not be too wonderful, but they are an order of magnitude better than the Smeary Tree Gang.

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    Hang The Bastards says:

    + 20 million

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    DONT MENTION THE WAR. I mean peace time deficit says:

    Will they stop wasting all of the country’s cash on failed War Mongering and Phoney Drug War. Looks like they have ran their course and have shown that they will bankrupt capitalism if not kept in check

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    if you’ve been affected by comments from jgm2, please talk to the ofcom regulator and tell them to shut blogs down.

    You don’t need these sordid little pits of filth. You’ve got Aunty. Aunty will take care of your needs. Tell you what’s nice. Look..here’s a dancing show. That’s so cozy isn’t it? And Aunty will tell you about the weather..Brrr..cold isn’t it? That’s global warming caused that. Do you know what global warming is? No? …. Stay tuned and Aunty will tell you all about it.

  149. 149
    stevetierneyuk says:

    You’re a socialist troll and I claim my prize!

  150. 150
    Tachybaptus says:

    Three pages wide, anyway.

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    I Remember You Hoo says:

    Kate Hoey anyone?

  152. 152
    say what you see says:


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    Hang The Bastards says:

    I completely disagree Nell…… If the public vote on issues they feel, then what happened in Bradford will happen in safe Tory seats.

    And it serves the Tory’s for abandoing us grass roots right wingers.

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    Mil.i.band says:

    The chancellors agenda of closing down “tax loopholes” on charitable giving is the very antithisis of Conservatism. Fucking twats.

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    jgm2 says:

    David Davis. He had a point about the ID card resignation. I suspect he was hoping some other MPs might emulate his gesture. Maybe even some Labour ones.

    But no. The other 650 of ‘em were quite happy to have us producing our papers on demand to random state functionnaires on any (or no) pretext.

    Plus David Davis is not a Posh Kid. So that totally spikes the bedwetter’s guns on what has been their main (only?) angle of attack since Cameron became leader.

    It has to be Davis.

  156. 156
    jgm2 says:

    The chancellors agenda of closing down “tax loopholes” on charitable giving

    It’s targetting fake charities like Blair’s and Brown’s.

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    Conclusion says:

    Very good +10

  158. 158
    The pretend Conservative Party says:

    No what we Are going to do is stamp hard on charitable giving so that the charities either go to the wall or have to be financed by the tax payer. Fucking wizard wheeze is it not.

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    I don't need no doctor says:

    If any of them jump they will be history. It’s all bullshit about UKIP, I mean what fucking use is UKIP. Farage is o.k. for a few headlines but where is the depth? Where is the mass following. Any tory jumping ship will be just seen as a loony tune.

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    scousewisdom says:

    UKIP=Useless Kowards & Idiots Party. Farage is a performing monkey. PC, multi culti, immigrant f riendly softies. Try the English Democrats..real patriots.

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    Stating the bleeding obvious says:

    What’s the alternative? Carry on voting for one of the big three? That’s worked out well so far, eh?

  162. 162
    WVM says:

    Indeed, too many LibLabCon cock suckers on here today, I prefer the usual bunch of politically incorrect pragmatists.

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    Tony B.Liar says:

    I can’t recall any rendition. None at all.

    And remember guys, I do an awful lot of work for charity.
    the Slotgob and cheesy smile charity! -= KEEERRRRRCHIIING.

    I love money, don’t you? its so…so…so…crispy!

  164. 164
    Tony B.Liar says:

    Look guys..i think UKIP is doing a really,really great job.
    if they hadn’t split the tory vote..then ..you know..might have had a Tory government.

    Not that I’d really mind that. 45% to 40% or even 35% top tax rate. Heck, if they went to 25% I’d be voting Tory myself!

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    Drop a daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Whatever happened to decent journalism? James (I love the Labour party) Lansdale on the BBC interviewed Cameron. He was clearly reading his questions from Ed Ball’s text message to him.

    “Go on say we’re all it it together” he said to Cameron? That reminds me of when we were at school and your mates goaded you to call some girl fat or big tits or something.

    The BBC are supposed to be the best news outlet on the planet but they can’t let their hatred of the Tories go can they?

    There are a 1000 questions he could have asked, in stead it was 5 minutes just full of cheap sound bites.

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    Haribo Halfwit says:

    When it is possible to read a post, yet be uncertain whether it is intended as a joke or not, it must be adjudged to have missed its own point.

  167. 167
    WVM says:

    I blame the MSM, besides I think we’ll have to wait for the LibLabCon to trip on that can they keep kicking down the road before anything can happen.

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    lol says:

    Carry on voting for the pink rinse brigade then.

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    Even Top Gear is tedious says:

    BBC = Boring Banal Crap.

    Even Dr Who has become a load of shite (again).

  170. 170
    er, um, can I ask says:

    What does Bradford have to find out before Galloway is shit?

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    scuse me says:

    Try the patronising Emily T.

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    Cameron is Crap says:

    “might have had a Tory government.”

    Not with Fucktard Dave, the bum-faced spastic, in charge.

    Fucktard Dave, the bum-faced spastic who gave £13billion to the EU last year. Money (your money) that we will never ever see again.

    And then he increases your tax “because of austerity”.

    A vote for the Cons is a vote for the bum-faced spastic. When you’ve voted for fat-headed prick, pop along to a tattoo parlour and get “I am a cretin” inked onto your forehead.

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    0vt54my says:

    You’re a tribal tosser.

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    8i11y 8owd3n's mum says:

    Ignore them and they’ll go away.

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    Hugh Gahoudi says:

    To blazes with them all.

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    BREAKING WIND! says:

    Greek PM Lucas Papademos has confirmed the country will hold an election on May 6.

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    Franny Maude, two girl's names for the price of one big girl's blouse says:

    But my mummy is friends with Jacob and Anunziata’s mummy, so it’s only right that they get selected.

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    Cameron's Vichy Conservatism says:

    Agreed, talent is a bit thin on the ground over at UKIP. A few big names might really help.

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    Haribo Halfwit says:

    They (and particularly Hannan) have significant traction on YouTube; what the establishment broadcasters prefer to forget is that they now sit alongside such newcomers as Al Jazeera and Russia Today on ‘basic Freeview’.

    Their grip will not loosen overnight, there will be those who flat-out refuse to watch all but the traditional channels but they (using the same logic which the EU cynically applies to the greybeard eurosceptics) are a small and dying breed.

    News junkies will find plenty of new places to get their fix.

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    Mr Curious says:

    Just like Diane Abbott’s gigantic arse.

    Just out of interest, does anyone know how a morbidly-obese retard became Shadow Minister for Health?

  181. 181
    Central Office stooge says:

    No DD, we’d rather have spineless catamites like Fox and his cronies.

  182. 182
    Anonymous says:

    George Eustice
    Eurosceptic rating: 0/10

  183. 183
    Central Office stooge says:

    Eww. Rather you than me, IRYH.

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    sockpuppet #4 says:

    I’m sorry to say, its not a meme, its a perception, backed up by all sorts of little bits and pieces of fact.

    And to remind you I often have a dig at Dave.
    I have nothing of interest to say of Nick Clegg because there is nothing of interest there.
    Although I don’t join in much about the otherun, I do like the foot-without-the-donkeyjacket meme for whatsisname.

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    jgm2 says:

    It’s revenge on Brown for cutting Dave’s salary and increasing his tax to 50% just before he (Brown) got kicked out of office.

    Now Brown (and Blair) won’t be able to hide his income tax-free in a fake charity. It won’t stop the bedwetters swooning about mythical charities whose mythical benefactors donate more than 25% of their annual salary that aren’t set up purely as tax-dodges though.

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    Central Office stooge says:

    And a shit journalist/columnist.

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    Duke Nukem says:

    Poor old Greece. If only they had nukes, the Nazis in Berlin wouldn’t be quite so cocky, would they? One or two diktats from the Nazis, Greece pushes the Red Button and *bang*, no more Berlin.

  188. 188
    Inner Beautician says:

    Mostly lefties are tight fisted. Why is that?

  189. 189
    Reared on pies says:

    Scottish Labour have installed an equally rotund lady/thing in the corresponding position in the Scottish Parliament.


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    AC1 says:

    Seems about right as Dave has left the conservatives.

  191. 191
    Sir Aston Martin says:

    Are you allowed to say “to blazes” in public? It’s awfully rude.

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    AC1 says:

    Dave v Milliband.

    Whoever wins, we lose.

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    Johnny Norfolk says:

    Well I will be a UKIP voter for the first time. Its the only way i can now see of getting out of the EU. We have been lied to and cheated and we need to stop it before its to late. If we all vote UKIP just once we can be out of the euro communist state.

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    Hugh Gahoudi says:

    TheTories are finished. The other sh#its have conspired with Dave to bring us to this pass. If a few MPs desert the Ship of Fools, what loss ? Perhaps there is a kindness in stabbing putrid corpse, to ease its end.

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    AC1 says:

    Talent shows are only possible thanks to the unique way we threaten people with jail for having an aerial.

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    sockpuppet #4 says:

    yeah yeah, everyone else isn’t real, “They” are sending people to disagree with things in my head. I first saw that delusion on newsgroups many years ago.

    All party leaders have faults. All politicians have faults. No-one needs to pay anyone to think that Farage is a little peculiar. Who would you blame if everyone thought Hague was bald, had a silly accent, and minces?

    Oh, I can blame guido for the latter.

  197. 197
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    This bit of the Eustace comment sums up the political class of cnuts perfectly..

    “Guido can’t really see it happening due to the bright party career ahead but…”

    Compromising something you really believe in for the opportunity to roll over and have the party leader tickle your tummy.

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    Anonymous says:

    what a load of bull shit you talk nell. No balls either, that’s exactly what the 3 main parties want from you too. So don’t fucking moan when they all sign up to the next political eu treaty, you voted for it!

  199. 199
    Hugh Gahoudi says:

    Tories already fukt. Just inter the corpse.

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    AC1 says:

    Kick the deviant out of the party.

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    joescotus says:

    chn4 gary (the funky)gibbon having a virtual on air wank at his line of questioning cameron with his best butterface trying to politely tell gary to stop wanking himself into an icu unit “gary i’m here to try and secure jobs for “british immigrants”” but all you want to howl about is domestic politics how is that going to ensure these guys put there trust in uk industry?….. but prime minister i’m just a thick uncomprehending lefty k*unt masquerading as a impartial reporter (via ch4)

  202. 202
    Anonymous says:

    They just can’t resist inserting their twatty socialist values in the script can they, interfering wankers? You never got this with Shakespeare ffs, that’s why he has universal, global appeal.

  203. 203
    Maude the fraud says:

    Have you filled your bath with petrol yet? If not, why not!

  204. 204
    AC1 says:

    The Heath Party!

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    sell time says:

    I personnally dont think they should defect. They all been elected on a tory platform – so let them now be re-elected on a Ukip platform – or dont the people matter and is there no democracy – well it is the uk???

  206. 206
    AC1 says:

    Yeah it does look like someone is trying to start something.

    “Nutters” who are CAGW sceptic, against the E.U.S.S.R., pro small-government, as opposed to EU loving “green” dave and his foreign aid guarantees..

    Guess who’s on the wrong side of history (anagram of vade).

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    Central Office stooge says:

    So we can look forward to another coalition of the losers.

  208. 208
    AC1 says:

    AlJabeebya would still ignore UKIP, and promote the imploding greens..

  209. 209
    Marlene Dietrich, in exile says:

    Sag mir wo die Blumen sind/Was ist gescheh’n…

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    AC1 says:

    >They all been elected on a tory platform

    Ask Dave to have a tory party and they’ll be able to stay.

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    my guess says:

    Zac Goldsmith should go to UKIP … and John Baron

  212. 212
    Gus Friar says:

    If Cash defects, surely his committee chairmanship – allocated to a Tory – would be threatened?

  213. 213
    AC1 says:

    I think you need a psychiatrist if you believe that claptrap.

  214. 214
    Anonymous says:


    A vote for any of the 3 major parties,Labour, Liberal, Conservative is an endorsement of their EU federalist policies and with no referendum. They will never give you a referendum, never, you can be sure of that!

    Each new treaty binds the EU states further and further into political union,and as with the Euro, one you can not get out of it.

    Remember that when you put your cross against those parties to represent you.

    You will have endorsed their EU policies of further and further EU political union towards the United States of Europe. So no moaning now when they sign up to the next treaty(that Dave will of course veto, but the rest will go ahead with any way).

    All those treaties will be there for us to sign up to, once enough of the second world war generation have died!
    Think about it?

    But unfortunately there are still enough ‘readers’ on here who believe that this is all about UKIP. Use your brain for once and vote for who you want to, but I’m just telling you why I won’t ever be voting for the 3 main parties ever again!

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    Spartacus says:

    Geedo flying a kite.

    Nil chance.

    Nothing to see here cummy, move along or i’ll nick yer.

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    Lib/Lab/Con = all the same says:

    Dorries and fellow Con traitors should not be made to feel welcome in any other party.

    Out with the old and in with the new.

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    Gordon Brown MP says:

    I will be their new leader. Do they have lots of money for me to spend or will I have to borrow, steal or print it

  218. 218
    Tong in Cheek says:

    14,590 people is hardly representative is it?


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    hh says:

    Watson is so fat he shows up on radar

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    um... says:

    Time to get dirty with them too then. Wonder how well their broadcasting network is really protected…

  221. 221
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    The BBC and C4 all get Ed Ball’s text message with the childish questions to ask.

  222. 222
    Lucas Papademos says:

    I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today?

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    jgm2 says:

    He would if he was wearing tin-foil trousers but his unique rounded shape with no angles to cause a reflection plus his absorbent lardy physique means that nothing is reflected back.

    He’s invisible to radar. But unmissable with the naked eye.

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    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    They don’t need to leave the Tory party, what they need to do is grow a fucking pair and demand a referendum on staying in or getting out of the EU.

    So long as Cameron refuses they just need to cause as much havoc as they can at Westminster.

    The biggest problem they face are the c u n t z at the BBC who will trash them as being nutters, little Englanders, same old Tories blah blah blah.

    If they really want to be popular promise to get rid of the state broadcaster and it’s £4 billion a year free meal, that would be very popular.

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    screw the lot of them says:

    Neither is Cameron representative of the majority of Con voters.

    Something has got to give. I’ve given too much of my hard earned cash already.

    Time for payback.

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    Spartacus says:

    i noticed the bbbc bias as far back as the late 70s.

    in the 80s they censored the le pen party by deliberate miss- translations

    Also caused the swing towards the b en p party by misrepresentation.

  227. 227
    jgm2 says:

    Aye, to maintain horizontal and vertical scale you’d need to have triptych of the fucker on a regular-shaped page.

  228. 228
    Haribo Halfwit says:

    Two words: Ron. Paul.

  229. 229
    Ed Testes says:

    Why are you lot talking about those stupid UKIP’s eh?
    Look everyone knows that the real problem is there just has not been enough government spending yet… you know, to fill the hole left by the real economy.

  230. 230
    Arthur Atkinson says:

    That’s no lady.

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    Soljenitson says:


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    jgm2 says:

    She’s average weight up in Fucking Scotland. There’s a reason they all die ten or more years younger up there. Several reasons actually. But one of them is poor diet and concomitant national obesity rates second only to fat Italian kids.

  233. 233
    Gordon Brown says:

    They won’t listen Ed, I’ve tried to tell them that tax cuts take money out of the economy but they just laugh at me. :(

  234. 234
    Central Office stooge says:

    At least you didn’t mention the bald patch. Dave gets really upset when people mention the bald patch.

  235. 235
    Jimmy says:

    Are you thinking of the SWP logo?

  236. 236
    jgm2 says:

    You’re telling me their pancreases are really beautiful? Let’s eviscerate them and make sure.

  237. 237
    Central Office stooge says:

    That’ll be borrow, steal and print again, Gordo.

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    nellnewman says:

    “The BBC are supposed to be the best news outlet on the planet…”

    Only by their own estimation and nobody listens to that either these days.

  239. 239
    £145pa tax cut, like it! says:

  240. 240
    Spartacus says:

    Lest you forget

    Bolton West:
    Labour 18,329; Conservative 18,235; UKIP 1,901
    Derby North:
    Labour 14,896; Conservative 14,283; UKIP 829
    Derbyshire NE:
    Labour 17,948: Conservative 15,503; UKIP 2,636
    Dorset mid & Poole:
    Labour 21,100; Conservative 20,831; UKIP 2,109
    Dudley North:
    Labour 14,923; Conservative 14,274; UKIP 3,267
    Great Grimsby:
    Labour 10,777: Conservative 10,063: UKIP 2,043
    Hampstead & Kilburn:
    Labour 17,332; Conservative 17,290; UKIP 408
    Middlesbrough South:
    Labour 18,138; Conservative 16,461; UKIP 1,881
    Morley (Ed Balls):
    Labour 18,365; Conservatives 17,264; UKIP 1,506
    Labour 16,393; Conservatives 14,841; UKIP 3,491
    Plymouth Moor View:
    Labour 15,433; Conservatives 13,845; UKIP 3,188
    Liberal 23,635; Conservatives 23,460; UKIP 1,200
    Somerton & Frome:
    Liberal 28,793; Conservatives 26,976; UKIP 1,932
    Southampton Itchen:
    Labour 16,326; Conservatives 16,134; UKIP 1,928
    St Austell & Newquay:
    Liberal 20,189; Conservatives 18,877; UKIP 1,757
    St Ives:
    Liberal 19,619; Conservatives 17,900; UKIP 2,560
    Labour 15,977; Conservatives 14,996; UKIP 2,428
    Walsall North:
    Labour 13,385; Conservatives 12,395; UKIP 1,737
    Walsall South:
    Labour 16,211; Conservatives 14,456; UKIP 3,449
    Liberal 24,560; Conservatives 23,760; UKIP 1,711
    Wirral South:
    Labour 16,276; Conservatives 15,745; UKIP 1,274

    I never tire of posting this for the unenlightened.

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    Jimmy says:

    I can see why Saddam appealed to you so much.

  242. 242
    Jimmy says:

    I can see why Saddam appe@led to you so much.

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    Yet another ex Tory Voter says:

    + hundreds of thousands

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    nellnewman says:

    The sad truth is the one’s who leave the tory party are the one’s who know they’ve no chance of a ministerial position so have nothing to lose.

    For the most part sadly mp’s of any party are spineless and self serving. And it is no good banging on about Farage and UKIP. I like Farage I think he’s an entertaining spe a k er but they have as much chance of winning a decent number of mp’s seats in 2015 as I have of celebrating another 21st birthday!

    And without a decent number of seats what can UKIP do? Nothing!

    What we really need is a decent tory government with a decent eurosceptic leader. Message to cameron – please retire you’ve proved yourself utterly useless!

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    think again says:

    What makes you 656 odd fuckers think you can repel millions of pissed off and disenfranchised people with many axes to grind?

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    Hang 'em High REALLY high!! in THREES (own piano wire supplied) says:

    Your suggestions would be welcomed for the um . . . batting order

    Here’s a start :

    Camerloon / Cloggger / MilliBrain

    Bliar / Brhoon / Big Al

    Merv / Balls / Yvette – or HarPerson (do we do wimmin?)


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    A UKIP and Conservative coalition is our only hope for 2015 says:

    Do us another list and this time include the Liberal democrats eh!

    I tire of requesting it from Spartacus but he won’t listen to reason.

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    sell time says:

    What they should do is take a leaf out of the Indian Premier League. All the money men should buy their teams – tory, labour, new labour, lib dems, ukip, greens etc – give them nice coloured outfits, pens, cards etc – They should buy those ‘players’ they want/ can afford into their teams and then the winners should govern – oops, silly me, they already do!!

  249. 249
    The Unenlightened says:

    Thanks, Sparty!

    So what was the deal UKIP wanted, and would it have delivered Dave a majority?

  250. 250
    Anonymous says:

    Bradford is, and always will be a shit hole. Galloway is welcome to the festering benefit-dependent multiculti sewer.

  251. 251
    jgm2 says:

    Haven’t you heard Jimmy? The Iraq war was a ‘mistake’.

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    Big Name Tory says:

    Fed up of being shagged by the No-Names? Am joining the last British Expedition to Free Europe from the failed experiment. Not really but the Euro Tarts are better fucks than the New British Puffs.

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    Anonymous says:

    I am very much alive…like Air Zimbabwe….my favourite (and personal) airline.

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    Joss Askin says:

    Hampstead Heath?

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    jgm2 says:


    “But I do believe that we were wrong. Wrong to take Britain to war and we need to be honest about that.

    Wrong because that war was not a last resort, because we did not build sufficient alliances and because we undermined the United Nations.”

    Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

  257. 257
    ffs! says:

    Utter crap nell.

  258. 258
    Yet another ex Tory Voter says:

    Democracy doesn’t work if we keep voting for Parties and Leaders we don’t believe in, especially when they’ve lied to us, betrayed us, and shown themselves to be incompetent in government, so I’m with you Johnny.

  259. 259
    Sir Aston Martin says:

    Yes, they certainly are odd fuckers. Just look at the mugshots above — what a bunch of dysfunctional lunatics, power-crazed busybodies to a man (and that includes Mad Nads).

  260. 260
    The Government of Chums says:

    Don’t forget:

    Vince the Prince, Clegg the Clown, and Huhne the Hoon.

    Must be many more trios to add.

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    Radio Four says:

    If you have been affected by any of the issues raised by Bill Quango’s bilious and wholly insane attack on the sainted David Attenborough, call the Radio Four Helpline on 0845 444444. Calls will cost no more than £3 a second and may be monitored for training purposes. We may also keep you talking while our thugs at Crapita trace your call and hunt you down like dogs, break into your house and beat you with rubber hoses till you piss blood for the next 20 years.

    And now, The Archers.

  262. 262
    Anonymous says:

    I was a teen in the 80s. I remember Thatcher insisting on the IRA peeps having their voice voiced-over.

    I remember thinking at the time wtf? What a really dumb thing to do. It has made me suspicious of Cons ever since.

  263. 263
    ...move along please says:

    Mark Pritchard : traitor
    Bill Cash : traitor
    George Eustice : traitor
    Douglas Carswell : traitor
    Jacob Rees-Mogg : traitor
    Nadine Dorries : traitor

  264. 264
    Jane Birkin from Paris says:

    If they were all to defect do you think it would have any effect upon the man in the street?

    I think not.

    After all we are going to be losing 65 of their kind permanently at the next election so there disappearing now would just be the start of a natural process.

  265. 265
    Jimmy says:

    I hadn’t realised you were such an admirer.

  266. 266
    Some Geezer wot knows a million corny jokes says:

    Watson is so fat, his blood type is A1.

    Watson is so fat, he needs two trips to haul arse.

    Watson is so fat, he has to be weighed at a cattle scale.

    Watson is so fat, he’s been banned from every all-you-can-eat restaurant in Britain. (Some of whom still serve Lord Prescott.)

    Watson is so fat, he retired the B!lly Bunter lookalike trophy for having won it so many times.

    Watson is so fat, when he went swimming in California, he attracted whale watching boats.

    Watson is so fat, ALL the other kids in his class had to sit at the opposite end of the seesaw.

    Watson is so fat, when he plays goalkeeper, the other team cries foul– he takes up ALL the space.

  267. 267
    jgm2 says:

    Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

    Do you ever tire of being wrong Jimmy?

  268. 268
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Also tell him to eat less, drink a lot less and stop sniffing around teenage interns. He gets more like Mike Handycock by the day.

  269. 269
    Reared on pies says:

    And the Conservatives drew what conclusion from this, Spartacus?

    The square root of fuck all.

  270. 270
    jgm2 says:


    Not for some time…

    Mugabe has previously survived being a victim of Air Zimbabwe’s woes as the national airline’s pilots suspends any of their work boycott to ferry the ageing leader each time he intends to travel.

    However, several passengers have had their travel plans disrupted when the airline grounds its planes or suspends flights mainly due to industrial action, fuel shortages and the seizure of the airline’s aircraft.

    And this is the guy the ANC wants to emulate. I’m amazed there’s any white folk left in SA.

  271. 271
    Anonymous says:

    It was not always so, it was engineered by the liblabcon traitors.

  272. 272
    Tachybaptus says:

    Why not re-erect Tyburn Tree? The triangular gallows could hang 24 at once, with a bit of a squeeze (but comfort was not considered very important). It stood on what is now the western end of the traffic island at Marble Arch. There were stands for viewing executions. See


  273. 273
    Anonymous says:

    If they were patriotic and courageous they would never have joined the Tories.

  274. 274
    Anonymous says:

    Has it occured to you that the Conservative Party chose Cameron as their leader.
    Collective stupidity or treason?

  275. 275
    grobdj says:

    Fom the man himself: Blair has no memory


  276. 276
    Bloke says:

    Mark, Bill, George, Douglas, Dan, Jacob and Nadine…PLEEASE…get on with it!! Your country needs you. Dave and co are nothing more than treasonous weasels.

  277. 277
    My Lord Prezza of Scoff says:

    Don’t forget me, – and Mickey Martin, – other special Lords!

  278. 278
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    The Tories chose Cameron because they believe the ‘nasty party’ shit that the BBC spit out every day.

    The Tories will never get a popular vote from the jocks or the twats in Liverpool, Manchester or Newcastle. Yet for some reasons Cameron seems to want to keep Scotland. Why? Getting rid of those and getting rid of 50 of the seats in the north would make it almost impossible for Liebore to ever get a majority in England again.

    The Tories need to wake up, they get trashed on a daily basis by the BBC and they seem to take it from the BBC.

    The BBC spin the EU line on a daily basis, Radio 5 in particular is a cheerleader for the EU and the Euro.

  279. 279
    Anonymous says:

    Mark, Bill, George, Douglas, Dan, Jacob and Nadine are soiled goods. Fuck them. They chose to sup with the devil, let them feel the heat – constantly.

    They don’t represent me. None of the arseholes in Westminster represent me.

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  281. 281
    Hey Spart!! says:

    For a bloke that can write down lists – you just don’t get it, do you?

    Or are you one of those weirdos that write down lists as though they meant something?

    Sorry mate, – but you and thick-as-shit in No 10 just can’t see the simple answer. Oh well . . .

  282. 282
    jgm2 says:

    ‘I have no recollection’ – that’s the term you have to learn…

  283. 283
    Rottweiler Ron says:

    As Nigel Farage has famously said about the Lib/Lab/Cons, “You couldn’t put a fag paper between them”!

    Vote any one from three – same result!

    UKIP really ARE the only alternative, if you want democracy in this country.

  284. 284
    nellnewman says:

    Let’s be honest could you live with yourself and go to bed to asleep at night knowing you’d caused the death of countless young men by sending them to war without proper e

  285. 285
    nellnewman says:

    Let’s be honest. Could you live with yourself and go to bed to sleep at night knowing you’d caused the death of countless young men by sending them to war without proper equipment and then caused the death of countless iraqis ALL based on a lie??!!

    Of course he has a selective memory!1 – he couldn’t live with himself any other way!!!

  286. 286
    misterned. says:

    Anonymous, that is a vile misrepresentation of what really happened.
    In reality Thatcher rightly wanted terrorist propagana off the air. The anti-British BBC looked for any stupid loophole they could find and a court saw that a voice-over would do the trick. Typical BBC. Wanting to fill the airwaves with any British hating propaganda it can find.

  287. 287
    jgm2 says:

    You’re making the fundamental mistake of assuming he has a conscience.

    He doesn’t.

    If he did he’d have hung himself by now. Same goes for Brown, Straw and the rest of the Reign of Terror.

  288. 288
    misterned. says:

    So you are a cowardly Blairite then Dan. I have spent almost 20 years opposing Blairite bullshit and I am still having to fight Blairite bullshit, but from Cameron, the lefty EU cock-sucking traitor.

  289. 289
    T.B£iar - the People's Messiah says:

    I have shredded this from my memory.

  290. 290
    joescotus says:

    blair ..he is as near to labour as is my first shit & that was sixty years ago

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    There are probably only two on there that UKIP would want on board…..

  292. 292
    misterned says:

    90% of 30% turnout is probably more representative than the votes achieved by at least half conservative or labour town councillors….

    So what is your point?

  293. 293
    Fuck the MSM says:

    Indeed, many PVRs and TVs have YouTube as standard. The MSM are losing their grip on information. Long may it continue.

  294. 294
    misterned says:

    +1 very true!

  295. 295
    misterned says:

    Dan, All in all, there is no significant difference between any of the main three parliamentary parties on a whole raft of policies:

    pro-surveillance state,
    pro-EU subservience,
    Pro immigration,
    pro high taxes,
    pro climate change taxation and control,
    pro big government,
    pro ECHR,
    pro terrorists and criminals rights,
    pro corrupt corporate lobbying,
    Pro-big banker,
    pro high debt,
    pro-politically correct divisiveness,
    pro-merging our defence with that of France,
    soft on crime and law and order,
    soft on welfare…

    And even on deficit reduction there is now less than 1% difference between George Osborne’s current situation and Alistair Darling’s 2010 plan.

    There is no significant difference between all three main parliamentary parties. And what is worse is that all three parties are totally and utterly wrong on all the above policies.

    It is impossible to vote for any of them as a vote for change, because they are all the same.

    Only UKIP offers real and the right kind of change on each and every one of the above policy areas.

    I will vote UKIP.

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    Slimy Chuck-a-Butty says:

    *** round of applause ***

  297. 297
    ??? says:

    “There are probably only two on there that UKIP would want on board…..”

    If you are thinking of recruiting old has-been Tory traitors you need to think again.

    This voter is not for turning back to the crap in Westminster. Get new blood ffs!

  298. 298
    misterned says:

    I would agree with you, except that there is precious little evidence that the current fake tories have any clue about economics either. They are spending millions on trying to persuade Texans to believe in man-made global warming for fucks sake!!!

    UKIP understand that we need to get manufacturing and exporting booming, and give exporters loads of tax incentives to bring money INTO the UK. Not piss it away on foolish EU subsidies, aid to rich nations who hate us or foolish climate change initiatives which are 100% guaranteed to fail to cool the planet!

    There is no difference between tory, labour and liberal for economic incompetence anymore.

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    misterned says:

    I would say an equal traitor. I cannot comprehend how one could be more of a traitor.

  300. 300
    o' Reilly says:

    “A few big names might really help.” Really? You really think that?

    The “celebritisation” of public life has to be neutered. It is a cancer.

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    misterned says:

    They only represent the interests of the EU Commission and the European Council.

    All three main parties’ next manifestos should simply read, “We will do whatever the EU tells us to do”

    Vote UKIP!

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    Talent Show says:

    For me the most interesting thing is at these MPs are probably the most intelligent within the Tory ranks. Why has Dave surrounded himself with mediocrity (with the exception of Ken Clarke and Govey) ?

  303. 303
    Another anon says:

    Pray tell Anon were is the arsehole who represents you if not in Westminster?

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    Cornishboy says:

    Well his opponent was a lib dem who was straight. So I suspect it shocked him that she had such a tame personal life we expect lesbian lovers and rent boys to go with lib dem mps. don’t think he will have a career for long in the party unless he gets a safe seat. However the collapse of the liberal vote might and a resurgence in the labour party from the ashes which will split the opposition vote. The south west was their stronghold they only held on to their seats last time from labour voters who did not want Tories to win Andrew george saint Ives real wet he had one of the safest liberal seats however was down to a few thousand. Providing Cameron and co don’t balls it up anymore sadly
    they will but could see a clean sweep in the south west just the usual Exeter plymouth and bristol staying labour.

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    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    We don’t just laugh at you we flick our bogies at you.

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    Jago Frost says:

    I am not voting for any stooge on a conservative ticket. I will vote tactically to upset the immediate overlords in Westminster, but “David Cameron’s Conservatives” are, in my reality, consigned to history.

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    Pongo says:

    Nell you cleary do not understand young men and why they join the armed forces. They are not in essence war mongers but they want adventure and excitement and if a politician were to give them that they are only too ready to take it up regardless of not having the latest designer flak jacket or Kevlar helmet.

    Their mums aren’t so happy mind.

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    electoral reality says:

    Thinking about it, fuck UKIP. All they’re good for a few youtube uploads of Farage slapping van rumpey. The reality is they can’t even unseat Marxist bercow in true blue Buckingham. We need a Tory party with a set of balls.

  309. 309
    electoral reality says:

    A vote for UKIP would de facto be a vote for lib/lab/con. Far better to keep pissing patiently from inside the tent.

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    pundit says:

    Half of those “pissed off and disenfranchised people” pretty much deserve to be exterminated themselves for having ever voted Labour. They are as responsible as Gordon Brown for leaving us in the centre of this vast ocean of shit.

  311. 311
    Spartacus says:

    try frome

    none so blind as those who dont want to see

  312. 312
    Rocco says:

    You miss the point Nell. New Labour did far more harm to this country than Hitler or war ever did.

    They destroyed the spirit of the nation with their something for nothing culture and mass immigration for cash culture and Dave is doing nothing to repair the damage.

    Forget the equipment short commings, there always will be. The greater question is, just what is the point of laying down your life for Queen and country anymore?

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    Pissed off says:

    Cameron is a busted EU flush. NO more will I vote Conservative.

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    Go East Young Man says:

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    Handycock (sex Tourist on Taxpayer's money) says:

    If Nadine is joining UKIP so am I, I have always fancied her and her tits. Joining another Party won’t be a problem for me as I have already been a member of the Labour Party, SDP and LibDems and I am also an honorary member of the Russian Communist Party and have been awarded the Order of Lenin, although I can’t talk too much about that. Boaz.


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    Nadine says:

    Hello big boy!

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    Ironside says:

    You have missed the whole point Darling Nell.
    UKIP is a Tory pressure group, it will never accumulate seats in parliament.
    But it is influential and popular enough to lose/deny the tories 21 seats at the last GE in the marginals.
    If it manage to lose the tories 21 seats at the last election how many do you think it will lose the tories at the next GE ? 100 ? The way Dave is going, that looks achieveable.
    Camoron could wipe out the threat at a stroke by promising a referendum on Europe. All UKIP would rejoice…..and withdraw their aspirant MPs, huge tory majority, trebles all round.
    Except it won’t happen under Camoron. More likely Davis or Boris after an EU issue causes the trigger point, Duncan-Smith resigning, and the ousting of the fake tory.

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    Fish says:

    Never heard the answer to that question. The BBC edited it out.

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    Tachybaptus says:

    Bіllу’s getting serious now:


    Sell Guido, buy Bіllу.

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    WVM says:


  321. 321
    WVM says:

    Indeed and they do fuck all about it, I do wonder sometimes.

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    You forgot one says:

    David Cameron : traitor

  323. 323
    stevetierneyuk says:

    Oh no. Not name calling? The pain, the pain.

  324. 324
    Farmer Gilles says:

    Surely 14590 is more representative than a mere 650? Trouble is the 650 seem to be blind, deaf and unutterably totally stupid. Time is rapidly approaching to get the pitchforks sharpened.

  325. 325
    stevetierneyuk says:

    Douglas Carswell is one of the best Conservative MPs. I don’t believe there’s any self-interest in him. Just honest positions that he isn’t afraid to state. We could do with another few hundred just like him.

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    stevetierneyuk says:

    The people on this list are much liked by the majority of grass roots Conservative activists. We don’t see honesty and integrity as “having tantrums.”

    I don’t think anybody is really falling for this Danny Boy. You aren’t a Conservative. You’re some opposition troll trying to create a stir.

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    Farmer Gilles says:

    Good idea, but these days we can’t get the water. Don’t you know there is a drought on?

  328. 328
    Farmer Gilles says:

    Williams – the destroyer of our once superb education systems.

  329. 329
    Farmer Gilles says:

    Don’t they teach proper English in south west England? Ooh aah, rownd down by yeere…

  330. 330
    Farmer Gilles says:

    In Brixton it could be Black Heath

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    albacore says:

    If you sleep with curs then you’ll end up with fleas
    The whole LibLabCon gang’s a fatal disease
    They manipulated mass immigration
    To destroy from within the British nation
    So who needs Tory rats and defectors?
    Certainly not real British electors


  332. 332
    Farmer Gilles says:

    My wife is searching out her knitting needles as I type. I’ll bring the popcorn.

  333. 333
    Farmer Gilles says:

    Those with eyes to see have seen the writing on the wall and are getting out while the planes are still flying and the borders still open. Good luck to them (although all three places mentioned are in effect run by dictators of one variety or another).

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    Quite. Camerloon’s sunk so low he doesn’t even qualify as a bounder any more.

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    politics says:

    graet analysis

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    Spangles says:

    What Spartacus is trying to point out is that if the half- soaked, dim-witted ars*h(les had NOT voted UKIP the tories would have stood a good chance of an overall majority and wouldn’t have had to get in bed with the half soaked Limp Dums, but thanks to said ars*h)les, we will never know what kind of government they would have been.

    Right now cretins………… let the abuse start, but just think what UKIP voters did……… nothing but utter t*ssers!

  337. 337
    Boy Mulcaster says:

    Your right, people are waking up to the fact that politics is actually the last thing the three major parties are about. They have conspired to create a Soviet facade democracy where real power is kept from the people. Voting UKIP is not going to give you a UKIP government in 2015, but it will give the first sign to the Commisars that things can be changed. Just voting for Dave will result in more BlueLabour/Red Tory shit.

  338. 338
    Boy Mulcaster says:

    The Call to Cash In I think was too much great for them

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    qq says:

    Is it true that there is a sponsored walk around Tom Watson?

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    La' says:

    She’s a bit old for you eh Handy?

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    A pragmatist says:

    It worked for the SNP in Scotland why shouldn’t it work for UKIP in Britain?

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    jgm2 says:

    The ones who are leaving are the ones we should be trying to keep. The educated ones. The qualified ones. The ones with ambition.

    Unfortunately not ‘all skill sets’ are leaving. We’re being left with the unambitious, uneducated fuckers. The Labour voters in other words.

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    jgm2 says:

    They use him as practice laps for the Schneider Cup.

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    jgm2 says:

    Even Bedwetter Central is onto Blair…


    Loving one or two of the bedwetter comments though…

    ‘How about one with Cameron saying that he has no recollection of saying that there will be “no top down reorganizing of the NHS” Steve. This is much more important to us all, than trying to get at a yesterdays politician’

    Aye. Lets all forget about Labour’s insane war in Iraq and pretend it didn’t happen eh?

  345. 345
    Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    Has anybody been abel to get the B-bbc site lately? (the new one not the old one)

  346. 346
    fuck em says:

    not that Camerron’s chomping at the bit over Syria ….

  347. 347
    fuck em says:

    the tories don’t like it up em

  348. 348
    Anonymous says:

    The best comment I read on here was about the SNP starting on or around 1966, and then looking at them today.

    For those you of you who thought that voting for them at that stage was a wasted vote or would let the other party in, what would you say now?

    You don’t have to vote for the elite establishment parties like Tories, Labour or the Libdems. If you do, you will be endorsing fully their EU federalist agenda. You know, the one they tell you to your face that they don’t have? Then they veto treaties that go head any way? Then they promise you a referendum and refuse one? I mean after all they are incredibly more intelligent than the rest of us and they really do know better, don’t they?

  349. 349
    Anonymous says:

    I wonder how many Tory trolls we will see on here today? Telling you why you should not vote UKIP? All those same old arguments, boring.

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    tapestory says:

    The Farage thing is a media game. Farage keeps away from things like climate issues, and sticks to conventional anti-EU politics, reinforcing the control grid. Other Ukippers who challenged the United Nations moves to become a world government like Lord Monckton get completely blanked.

  351. 351
    tapestory says:

    With UKIP on 7% there are fifty Conservative MPs that will lose their seats at next GE. If UKIP get above 10%, call that 150. By defecting, the Conservative losers might get to be IKIP winners. It’s a risk worth taking, the more certain becomes.

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    In The Know says:

    I see the IMF is warning about pensions and large numbers of old people again


    the headline should read – There’s no way the rich are giving up their wealth so why don’t you all just fuck off!!

    all in it together hey Dave?? Fascism I call it

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    jgm2 says:

    Look what happened to Ireland. All the intelligent ones left and they went even further down the road of borrowing and squandering perched on nothing more than massive consumer debt and an unsustainable housing boom.

    Just like the UK during the Imbecile Years (1997 – 2010). A dumbed-down electorate happy to be told that the fact their house ‘went up’ by 20% in value last year and for every year for the last five years was entirely due to how much more clever and educated they had became overnight and was certainly not economic madness. Fuck no.

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    jgm2 says:

    I bloody hope he isn’t.

    Leave the Syrians to it. Fuck all to do with us and we’ll get fuck all thanks for even expressing an opinion.

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    Taxfodder says:

    I’m glad I’m not a Tory (or NuLab come to that) must be hard supporting proven complete and utter incompetents year after year, but that’s truly the aspect I enjoy most, watching the trusting faithful toddle up for another injection of promises of lessons learned and jam tomorrow after being kicked in the nuts as they arrive and almost as quickly up the arse as they leave.

    Reminds me of my old Jack Russell’s daily lunch time vigil waiting patiently at the table for a few never-to-fall scraps before trudging back to his empty bowl to await feeding time.

    Its sad really you would think after so many bad experiences they would wake up but then, it does afford me hours of amusement and confirms what I have known for many years……

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    marcus aurelius says:

    I’ve had ten years close involvement in UKIP.

    It may be paranoid but I wonder if the EU didn’t set it up to leach all its enemies from electable parties.

    It would be better for Britain by far, for Bill Cash et al to stay and fight for real Conservatism in a real Conservative Party.

  357. 357

    Blogger Column in The Times anyone?

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    Welcome aboard, friend

  359. 359

    Cammie Boy and OZZYborne to wealth are the jokes in this game.

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    Anonymous says:

    It’s great to be nationalistic and Scottish.

    It’s great to be nationalistic and Welsh.

    It’s great to be nationalistic and Irish(spent years fighting the English but eventually gave in to the Germans)

    But if you’re nationalistic and English well,you really must be a racist!

  361. 361
    Hang The Bastards says:

    Rubbish.it would be better for the UK if it grew and grew over the years.

    After years of PM style under Blair, Brown, and Cameron the MPs have realised their voice doesn’t matter, let alone the voices of us little people.

    The best thing for the UK would be the break up of the LibLabCon stitch up.

  362. 362
    Hang The Bastards says:


  363. 363
    Anonymous says:

    Don’t you just hate the elite political classes in this country? You know the BBC, labour, libdems and Tories?

    Remember they all know better than you. Go on, make their Spring time, vote for any one else other than them! You won’t know any way cos the beeb won’t report it!

    You pay your licence fear for fear of jail, so that the beeb can report on those parties only! and you pay for it! they even get a fee for appearing on their news programmes. I hope they declare it though on their tax returns!

  364. 364
    Anonymous says:

    Those that shout the loudest and have the biggest wallets can change government policy

    Ministers look again at charity tax relief cap


    It’s nice to know that we are all in this together.

  365. 365
    Hang The Bastards says:

    Maybe you should see how they stick up for democracy. They have spines, which none our our MPs have.

  366. 366
    Anonymous says:

    Yet another u-turn from Cameron

    PM retreats on kicking out foreign criminals including burglars and violent thieves

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2128426/PM-retreats-kicking-foreign-criminals-including-burglars-violent-thieves.html#ixzz1roFLNoKT

    You really wanna vote for this clown this spring? Remember too, he vetoed a treaty that went ahead any way!

    Cameron,the Francis Pym of the old Tory party, you know, the one Thatcher wouldn’t have in her cabinet he was so wet!

  367. 367
    Thick as Fuck voter says:

    I filled the dogs bowl and the fish tank with petrol, the dog needs a drink and the goldfish has floated to the surface. Help me Francis what should I do?

  368. 368
    Well it's a thought says:

    Seen Camoron on tv this morning and instead of thinking about was he was supposed to be talking about, I was wondering how much and who was paying him to say the thing, am I wrong or just a cynical tosser.

  369. 369
    Red Ken Lyingscum says:

    I love this song…

    It tax me back….

  370. 370
    jgm2 says:

    I’ve told you – this is about targetting Blair and Brown and keeping them in the spotlight…

    Some people have been using charities established in other countries to funnel money in, so they’re not paying 50p tax or 45p tax but 10p or 20p tax.

    Some enterprising journalist will finally get the hint and ask who are these wealthy individuals establishing ‘charities’ in foreign countries to avoid tax.

    ‘I couldn’t possibly name individuals.’ Dave will say.

    The following day there will be a ‘leak’ giving chapter and verse on Tone and his exotic ‘financial’ arrangements. Hey Presto, suddenly Tone is back in the frame. The butcher of Baghdad, amnesiac torture renditioner, tax evader and godfather to Murdoch’s child.

    This is all about bringing the Labour hierarchy, past and present, into the tax avoidance/evasion frame. Or, at the very least, stitching the fuckers up to pay more tax after they landed him (Dave) and his mates with a 50% parting gift.

  371. 371
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    So the good news is there are six tories who feel like the restof us on Europe !

  372. 372
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    Ken Dodd for Ken Dodgy !

  373. 373
    Sophie says:

    Morning all.

    Vote UKIP.

  374. 374
    Dave says:

    If Cash has said he wants to stay in the EU, how come he gets a eurosceptic mark of 10/10?

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    Funambulist says:

    Heard part of Toady this morning. Who decided the Beeb is now the official voice of the jihadist opposition in Syria? I thought it was already the voice of the opposition in this country.

  376. 376
    smoggie says:

    “Unlike most of you, I have voted UKIP….”

    That’s UKIP’s problem in a nutshell.

  377. 377
    Anonymous says:

    I’ve told you, this is about the fact that the ordinary man never gets a look in. It’s all about this country’s elite political class. I’ve told you that before.

    Fuck them all.

  378. 378
    Dan York says:

    I’d love Carswell to join UKIP. He’s a top man and would help improve the image of the party.

  379. 379
    Anonymous says:

    Agreed They must all go together when they go.

    There needs to be a story even the BBC has to broadcast.

  380. 380
    Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

    Sir Aston, do you really think they are any more dysfunctional or power-crazed than the Labour Party?

  381. 381
    Anon says:

    If UKIP could get to the point where the general public see them not as a minority protest group but as a serious opposition party who could effect real change, people would vote for them in droves.

  382. 382
    Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

    ‘Cameron weakened by mass defection of Euro-sceptic right-wing extremists – Tom Watson demands General Election’

  383. 383
    Fog says:

    The media is not ‘part of the problem’ – the Media is The Problem.

  384. 384
    Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

    Do you think Anonymous knows that what he is spouting is a distortion of the truth, or is he just a gullible BBC-brainwashed proselytizer?

  385. 385
    Alex says:

    Please, please, please let it be Dorries and Carswell.

  386. 386
    Anon. says:

    ‘All he does is react to problems’ – quite. That is what the whole Government seems to be doing. It’s already like the last year of Brown & Co. What does this Government stand for?

  387. 387
    Anon. says:

    We knew Dave moved to the left in order to be re-elected, but we didn’t realise he really was one all the time (apparently).

  388. 388
    Jane Birkin from Paris says:

    If fucking Lord Snooty wants to back track and give tax relief to Charities then I have a suggestion.

    Tax relief is only allowed for donations to registered charities who have no one on the payroll receiving higher than the minimum wage per hour.

    Charities have simply been hijacked by big business .

    This is a scandal waiting to happen.

  389. 389
    Anon. says:

    Or, alternatively, if the Tory Party had listened to what people REALLY wanted instead of throwing them a sop about a fantasy EU referendum, those UKIP voters would have voted for them, wouldn’t they?

  390. 390
    Abdel from Tooting says:

    There are two charity shops in the same road as my takeaway.

    They dont pay any Council tax but I pay a packet.

    It is not fair I tell you. after all we are all supposed to be in this together.

  391. 391
    Christ on a bike says:

    if you are stupid enough to believe opinion polls! Given that the polls were saying the same thing this time last year, with ukip supposedly taking Tory support and labour far ahead, only for the local elections to completely contradict the national polls. Pollsters are reflecting media narrative and their own in-built left-wing wish-full thinking.

  392. 392
    The Open University says:

    We, along with the BBC, believe that Shakespeare was a left-wing, radical feminist, anti-racist campaigner, and anyone who writes an essay to the contrary will be failed.

  393. 393
    Steve Lloyd. says:

    And more airtime as a result?

  394. 394
    Editor for B-BBC says:

    Just stick to the facts, dear boy!

    Evil Tories weakened by mass defection of Fascist racist Euro-sceptic right-wing extremists – Heroic Tom Watson demands General Election for the sake of the babies and Climate Change

  395. 395
    Steve Lloyd. says:

    + 1000

  396. 396
    Polly Seewonk says:

    Have a cigarette while your dog goes woof?

    Gov’t Warning – Anything you do can be dangerous for your health – now give us your money so we can call you vile names and point you out for harrassment and persecution.

  397. 397
    Spot On says:

    haha….spot on

  398. 398
    Johnson, Boris Johnson says:

    iMoan. Oik.

  399. 399
    Wuffo the Wonder Dog says:

    William Cash MP is exactly the type of Tory that I and fellow UKIP members do not wish to see in UKIP. He has been the statutory eurosceptic used by the Tories to demonstrate to doubting Tory supporters that the party is eurosceptic. He isn’t, otherwise he would have left when Cameron reneged on the referendum, and the Tory party isn’t either.

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    lastofthesummervintage says:

    sounds like you have made your mind up. jump on board

  401. 401
    lastofthesummervintage says:

    here here

  402. 402
    lastofthesummervintage says:

    tactical voting is what the three main parties want you to do
    wake man and see the light, they have been P*~:*g on us for years
    Vote for a party that you believe in not one you think might win
    if you want to know more about UKIP http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies
    Make your own mind up

  403. 403
    Archie says:

    Like “fighting for change within from the EU”, Marcus? That’s turned out well!

  404. 404
    Archie says:

    Toungues in the fire?

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  406. 406
    Susie says:


    Even better — JOIN UKIP.

  407. 407
    Susie says:

    Oh and I forgot… post a copy of your new membership card to your MP explaining why you won’t be voting for him again.

  408. 408
    Rule Britannia says:

    This time UKIP will win many more voters than in all preceding years put together methinks.

  409. 409
    Anonymous says:

    Fuking Liar

  410. 410
    Anonymous says:

  411. 411
  412. 412
    Archie says:

    She of the ratty hair!

  413. 413
    neilfutureboy says:

    Nadine might be a runner if she is going to lose her seat. Beyond that i think most of them would consider they could do more damage by speaking and voting against Cameron. If you aren’t in the party you can’t vote for a new leader I suspect, with UKIP now the 3rd party and likely to eat even more into the Tory vote a lot of backbenchers w2ill start feeling nervous about their futures and start pressing for some sort of pact with UKIP, which wopuld obviously mean a change of leader & policies.

    Of course Cameron could always force the issue by withdrawing the whip from any MP who says they would rather have a tramp off the street as PM than him – but then one already has and he didn’t.

  414. 414
    EX-brat (Cranwell) says:

    Blunt dirty pitchforks are best, with a bit more force!

  415. 415
    EX-brat (Cranwell) says:

    And the pig got up and slowly walked away!

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