April 11th, 2012

Birmingham Backlash Boils Over

As Guido reported yesterday there is open revolt at Harman and Watson’s plans to stitch up the Labour Birmingham Mayoral race as exposed by Patrick Wintour. It was dismissed as stirring but now one of the candidates, Gisela Stuart, has broken cover in the Times:

“The whole point of the mayors was to devolve power and increase democratic participation, but the Labour Party’s response is as an old-fashioned, backward-looking party. The party machinery has to show some faith in the good judgment of voters and you cannot do that by drawing up rules which narrow down the contest.”

You read it here first…



  1. 1
    Pawn Sandwich says:

    Stalin would be proud.


    • 7
      Sir Aston Martin says:

      For a Labour politician, Gisela Stuart seems almost human.


      • 25
        Labour? Backwards? Surely not? says:

        Yes, but incredibly thick.

        “the Labour Party’s response is as an old-fashioned, backward-looking party.”

        Note to Gisela: “Duh!”


      • 29
        Not surprised says:

        Yes, but (as we would expect from Labour) incredibly thick.

        “the Labour Party’s response is as an old-fashioned, backward-looking party.”

        Note to Gisela: “Duh!”


      • 77
        Fish says:

        Yes. If I was a Labour voter she would be my chice for Mayor


        • 84
          V1le Labour ruined my Country says:

          Why would anyone want to be a Labour voter after the bankruptcy and corruption? I’m avoiding as much tax as possible to stop funding benefit spongers and public sector parasites.


          • Meatspin made me dizzy says:

            Yeah: firepersons, nurses, police-people, lollypop-persons, refuse collectors; public sector parasites all of them. Or perhaps not?



    • 8
      Hang The Bastards says:

      Out of touch WANKERS the lot of em !

      Time for voters to kick out the political cancer and elect a new breed.


    • 22
      Stasi Watch says:


      Guido is a revisionist running dog paper tiger and a saboteur and an elitist who not only criticises the Great work of the Dear Leader and his Gang of Four but also attacks our exalted Peoples Hero Red Kenneth.

      Remember Comrade Workers, Students and Benefits Heroes the Truth is only found in the Guardian of the Revolution and the Red Channel.

      Taxes are for the Elitist Plutocrats! Free Elections are for the Enemies of the People!


      • 58
        davidc says:

        those who promote the cult of personality are enemies of the people and are to be re-educated forthwith


    • 57
      yeah, right.... says:

      Baldermort or Ms Jack Harman; to paraphrase Kissinger during the Iran/Iraq war.

      ‘It’s a shame they can’t both lose’


  2. 2
    sockpuppet #4 says:


    Could be modified:
    “BOOKMAKERS have stopped taking bets that the first Birmingham Mayor will be a bellend.”


  3. 3
    Li Ja Spa says:

    The sinister Jack Dromey and his union barons aren’t far away. They control the money so they control the party.


  4. 4
    Backwoodsman says:

    Surely the whole point of the Mayors, was to open up another stream of taxpayers money to fund the local labour party and the Mayors cronies ?
    A replacement cash cow for the dwindling union membership funding .


    • 55
      Mike Hunt says:

      Well that’s how the scroungers and layabout’s party sees it.

      The real idea was to get some people of independent thought and ideas to benefit their city.


      • 66
        jgm2 says:

        Think what you’re suggesting.

        Why would a Labour government introduce a scheme to get ‘independent’ people into another layer of bureaucracy?

        They wouldn’t, would they? This is exactly what they had planned all along. Just as T*ry plans for elected police commissioners is to attempt to insert their people into more jobs in an area where they are traditionally seen as strong.


    • 61
      Well it's a thought says:

      Always thought they were for phases 1 to 5 in a development area, where the casting vote was always against local people and trips to “checkout” similar developments in a holiday resort were part of the strain in doing the job.


  5. 5
    Guardian reader, foaming at the mouth says:

    I got an A* in Diversity Studies GCSE. I read every tweet by Sally Bercow and Hadley Freeman. I know what I’m talking about.

    The Tories are white male little-Englanders. Everybody in the country calls them the nasty party and my teacher told me how everybody in every city was so happy in 1997 when the public rejected the Tory plan to privatise the NHS.

    There are too many white males in the UK. And too many white males in politics – this is why you’ll see that Labour will field a visible minority ethnic candidate to defeat the bigoted white male Tory candidate for Mayor of Birmingham.

    We all hope that soon Birmingham will be ethnically cleansed of English people and then we can look forward to an enriched, multicultural city.


    • 9
      Q says:

      Personally I am looking forward to visiting the British Embassy when it opens in Birmingham


      • 12
        Sir Aston Martin says:

        You’ll need a visa first, together with suitable inoculations.


      • 14
        Broadsword calling Danny Boy says:

        Haven’t you heard. Hague doesn’t want common people to go the Embassy and waste diplomats’s time – it means that they can’t act as unrewarded salesmen for arms dealers.


        • 27
          Guardian reader, foaming at the mouth says:

          Typical selfish Tory. The NASTY PARTY. Not just arms dealers but the Tory party also starts wars. They invaded Iraq and caused a recession. We all hope that soon Ed Miliband and Ed Balls can form a government to tackle these issues.


          • Q says:

            And that Tory Tony Blair sucked off Gaddafi for some oil for his Aga stove


          • Disgruntled Sheffielder says:

            Multiple choice question especially for you
            Why are you foaming at the mouth? Are you

            a. Barmy
            b. Owen Jones
            c. Suffering from rabies
            d. All three


        • 44
          The diplomatic wallet says:

          Ha ha ha. Unrewarded, That’s a good one.


      • 16
        sockpuppet #4 says:

        “I am looking forward to visiting … Birmingham”



    • 101
      Marmite says:

      Many a true word guardian re*der. What you describe seems all too real ! It’s too late to save this once great country now, thanks to Leiber t.w.a.t.s.


  6. 6
    Anonymous says:

    But isn’t that the point of the Labour Party? Control freakery, wanting to be in charge for no good reason and with no meaningful credentials other than a hatred of anyone with an independent spirit (and independent means)?


    • 39
      Ex Conservative Voter says:

      That is, indeed, the point of the Labour Party.

      Sadly, it’s also now the point of Cameron and Clegg’s parties, too.


  7. 11
    nickleaton says:

    Did I read it here first? Peter Watt has put something almost identical out.


    • 34
      Anonymous says:

      The story was first on Guido yesterday. Peter Watt has only written about it this morning.


  8. 15
    Li Ja Spa says:

    Labour said they need to rethink their online campaign strategy after humiliation in Bradford at the hands of George Galloway.

    Perhaps now is the moment for their internet guru Sion Simon to burst forward?


  9. 19
    Anonymous says:

    Come on over, Gisella – join UKIP. And bring Kate with you; both would be welcome and many friends would be found already there.


  10. 21
    George the cat Galloway says:



  11. 24

    I’m sure their good strong leadership will sort it out


  12. 38
    tottenham chutzpah says:

    My votes on Joe Chamberlain

    As the empire expands – the Chamberlains contract!


  13. 41
    • 43
      Q says:

      Created this way by the Labour party to ensure a steady supply of voters


      • 47
        eh? says:

        Do keep up at the back, the election was two years ago.


        • 87
          Fish says:

          Do keep up? Do keep up ‘eh?’.

          They can’t be deported because they’ve all hired expensive Human Rights lawyers at our expense to find a way to stay here by;

          a) Claiming a right to family life by shagging an EU national and having a sprog here

          b) Claiming that they own a West Highland White Terrier who would be upset if their master was deported

          c) Claiming that they are gay and will be strung up on a crane if they go home.

          d) In the case of the Australian Boat Race wanker, that his local authority and charities that employ him (as a super-duper pilgrim) will be denied the opportunity to spend public money on his worthless parasitic endeavours.


      • 51
        Aaron D Highside says:

        When IQ lightweights like Charles Clarke, Phil Woolas and Bob Ainsworth can become Government ministers, does that tell Labour voters nothing? They’ll even vote for Ken Livingstone. Stephen Hawking couldn’t figure it out.


  14. 45
    albacore says:

    Brothers and sisters having a spat?
    Well, dearie me and just fancy that
    When there’s mayoral largesse up for grabs
    Ta ta to fraternity. They’re all scabs


  15. 46
    Q says:

    You cannot easily change the culture of the labour party. They are accustomed to stabbing each other in the back, skulduggery, and back room politics.

    Gordon Brown (Peace be upon him) remembers this quite well


  16. 48
    Ken Livingstoned says:


  17. 50
    A Pasty-faced Plonker Posing as PM says:

    I say chaps!!! Can’t get the hang of these jolly japs at all!! They bowed when I told them about my jolly super HS2 plans to get to Birmingham quickly. And they bowed again when I offered to sell them an HS2 for their very own. And they bowed again when I offered them some of our dashed money to pay for it!! – watt?

    And to cap it all, they forgot to cook the fish at the Reception! – watt?


  18. 52
    Anonymous says:

    we’re busy doing nothing, working the whol;e day through



    • 102
      Ivor Tapeworm says:

      Hmm… the Grauniad calls them ‘perks’. I’d call them bribes.



  19. 63
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Typical Liebour.

    If they have less than half a chance of winning, they just move the goal posts.

    That’s democracy for you.


  20. 64
    Jacqueline Dromey-Harman (ms) says:

    Blimey, who let that out?

    Whatever you do, don’t tell the islamites, they’ll be furious!


    • 67
      sockpuppet #4 says:

      I’m puzzled as to what you’re on about. My first thoughts were a fart that smells of port, pork, and sea snails.


  21. 82
    Keith Vaz, MP says:

    I awoke this morning, oiled my head and slipped it between my silken cheeks. It was the right thing to do.


  22. 96
    Nick says:

    Elect the ‘Bald One’ and bankrupt Birmingham, Simples !!!


  23. 99
    Dai says:

    I’m bored no body is insulting or taking the piss out of fatso tom watson


  24. 104
    Baron Hogwash says:

    What did Dromey offer Sion Simon to step aside? That is what I want to know – Sion Simon gave up a seat when he could have waited two years, raked in £65k in salary alone per year, seen the result of the referendum for mayor and then decided if he wanted to run for mayor.

    So what was the deal between Dromey and Sion Simon ?

    And why is labour so sure that Birmingham will not vote NO to an elected mayor – all these clowns coming out with their plans to be mayor – an elected mayor most people I think do not want, especially not discredited politicians.


  25. 108
    No-Money-Left-Mort says:

    Well… there it si or … more precisely as far as the money is concerned … there is ISN’T…


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