April 10th, 2012

Tories to Attack Pilgrims in Party Broadcast

Guido hears that tonight’s local election Tory Party Election Broadcast will have a direct pop at Pilgrims: specifically Ed Miliband’s council who pay some £186,877 for seven full-time taxpayer-funded trade union officials. Guido knows that Frankie Maude has had a tough couple of weeks, but he’d like to gently remind him about that promised consultation that has yet to materialise…


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  1. 1
    another point of view. says:

    We are waiting for bloody action, dont want empty promise.

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    • 3
      Spartacus says:

      when it was debated in the commons some months back, the conservative boy gave the pilgrims a get out clause, which no doubt they will enlarge as a get out of jail card.

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        Anonymous says:

        Boris Johnson was today accused of cutting £5 million of government money allocated to fight homelessness in London — and handing it to other projects.

        A group of charities has raised concerns that the money has gone missing from the Mayor’s budget to support rough sleepers.

        http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/mayor/boris-johnson-accused-of-diverting-5m-away-from-helping-rough-sleepers-7630700.html

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        • 14
          Check before to troll says:

          You do understand what “charity” means right?

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          • Anonymous says:

            Has anybody got a list of words blocked here on this comment section?

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          • Pawn Sandwich says:

            Yes. I have just posted them but have been modded.

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          • Archer Karcher says:

            Anonymong think’s charity is forced taxpayer funding, so do the taxpayer funded ‘charities’.

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          • Mil.i.band says:

            Charity is the voluntary giving of money to good causes. It is the kind of thing which the current Government used to encourage before clamping down on it now they consider it tax avoidance.

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        • 25
          Ex-Tory says:

          There have been endles initiatives and money thrown at rough sleepers. There are more beds available than there are known sleepers. The likes of Shelter put out manipulated stats and biased reports to keep their snouts in the trough. Living and working in London, the only homeless I see are Eastern Europeans.

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        • 39
          cassandra king says:

          Well a good start would be to strip the legions of illegal immigrants of their benefits and send them home, start housing asylum seekers in mobile homes on old airfields, deny all foreigners any kind of benefits unless they have contributed for at least five years. And slash foreign aid by half.

          Hey presto more than enough money to help every homeless British person. Simples innit? More than enough money but its being utterly squandered. Abu Qatada is sucking up millions in taxpayers money, kicking the scumbag and using the money to help our own people out would help hundreds of British homeless.

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  2. 2
    Andrew Efiong says:

    Good to see this being exposed again.

    As for consultation, why bother? These shirkers are ripping off taxpayers and damaging front line public services. No point asking their opinion, fire them!

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    • 4
      another point of view. says:

      Consultation should go like this :

      Do you want to return to the front line and do the job your were hired to do?

      Yes : They can go back to front line work

      no: they get fired.

      End of consultatiion

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      • 24
        V1le Labour ruined my Country says:

        Agreed sack them, there is so much waste still to be eliminated.

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        • 49
          My comment is awaiting moderation says:

          Have they actually cut any wastage yet?

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          • anonymong says:

            Of course not. Govt doesn’t waste. It “invests” in the future and grabs as much tax as it can get away with to offset consecutive political fubars.

            “Waste” is failing to spend the whole allocated budget.

            HMG has no desire to cut spending as long as the civil service has the incompetent cabinet by the balls.

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    • 32
      Popeye says:

      What about the pilgrims in the teachers unions?
      Why are my taxes paying them to not-teach?

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      • 37
        Not to be a pilgrim says:

        Guido claimed that Hank Roberts – many times mentioned on this site – was a pilgrim (that his salary was being paid by the Council). Did Guido check this with a FoI request to the council?

        Because Hank’s salary wasn’t paid for by the council. Ask them!

        You are either behind Guido, or a long way behind (and the long way behind is probably safer)

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      • 38
        John Bunyan says:

        Those who can’t teach become Union reps.
        Ask Julie.
        Simples.

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      • 44
        Lord Jensen Interceptor says:

        No state teacher teaches. They preach climate change/global warming/the state owes you a living/ shite. State teachers are parasites.

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        • 48
          Mil.i.band says:

          Some dozy teachers Union rep was on SKY today criticising Michael Gove for wanting to run Education for a profit. Presumably the dopy cow would rather it be run at a loss till all the money is spent and the country goes bankrupt.

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  3. 5
    British Leyland says:

    Paying full-time union officials to drink tea, eat pies, block change and call strikes never did us any harm.

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    • 7
      Pawn Sandwich says:

      Absolutely. In fact they sent you on a trip to China – or should I say they sent your factory on a trip to China. Machine tools, presses, moulds, jigs the lot.

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      • 51
        jgm2 says:

        Aye. They did. Hahahahaha. Now the Chinese are driving around in badly put together, badly specced bags of shit.

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  4. 6
    Sophie says:

    Gutless EU stooge Cameron will do nothing about Pilgrims – just like he does nothing on the E_U and I_mmigration.

    Vote UKIP

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    • 8
      Disgruntled Sheffielder says:

      For God’s sake SHOVE BLOODY UKIP

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      • 11
        Marmite says:

        Couldn’t have put it better myself disgruntled! She truly is dopey sophie.

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      • 13
        will says:

        give it a rest voting UKIP is not a magic cure. This problem of pilgrims has existed for years. Its only now that we are in a mess that individuals are realising how much we are funding the unions out of our council taxes and taxes.

        getting out of europe will solve this problem how ???

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        • 26
          Sophie says:

          Ah, nothing better than semi latent homosexual Cameroons getting all in a froth about the Conservative Party in exile – UKIP.

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        • 27
          Ex-Tory says:

          UKIP has real Conservatives policies. Vote Lib/Labo/Con if you want more Stalinist socialism.

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          • My comment is awaiting moderation says:

            I dunno why Cameron didn’t form a coalition with Libs and Labour, their policies are virtually identical.

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        • 31
          Archer Karcher says:

          “getting out of europe will solve this problem how ???”

          It will enable the government of this country, to make or strike down any law it pleases to. No doubt Pilgrims enjoy some form of legal protection that the government would rather not talk about and hoops to jump, such as consultation processes and the like enshrined in EU regulation. That is probably the real reason why they still exist and taxpayers fund them.

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      • 33
        Popeye says:

        Yer obviously from oop north with the typical chip on shoulder!

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  5. 9
    Fight! says:

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  6. 10
    Ken the crook says:

    What the feck is up with this country? We have become afraid of our own shadows. If everyone – well the majority – stood up and denounced these ars*h*les and demanded they do their jobs or face the sack, what could they do to us? I’m afraid we have lost our collective back bones and let the ‘tards tell us what to think and do.

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    • 15
      will says:

      the problem with many of them is that thye have been union reps for so long they will need exstensive retraining, also you cant just sack someone for being a union rep.

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      • 20
        2112 says:

        No, but you can sack them for not doing the job they’re being paid to do.

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        • 22
          Julie davies says:

          I’m just an ordinary teacher of English.
          I am.
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      • 52
        jgm2 says:

        also you cant just sack someone for being a union rep.

        That’s the problem right there. Fix that and the rest will fall into place.

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      • 56
        anonymong says:

        They don’t need retraining. Unemployment and the threat of starvation will soon focus their collective minds into doing something constructive.

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    • 45
      guvernment spokes chair says:

      Be afraid, be very afraid

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  7. 18
    cornishboy says:

    If any of them have an ounce of sense they will tell that attacking pilgrims will put them back into controlling the agenda we have a reactionary government we need one that sets the issues only the union dinosaurs could object to this. Need to deport abu qatada quickly get back to attacking pilgrims and pick a winnable but very petty fight with europe and we will be setting the agenda. However this won’t happen so major election losses heading our way.

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  8. 19
    Gilmore's Labour voting Edinburgh dogshite are not welcome to meddle in my life. says:

    Money grubbers!

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  9. 21
    Ah! Monika says:

    May be something to do with this in today’s Mail

    Hundreds of school strike chiefs planning mass walk-outs are on council payrolls and cost us £13million a year
    360 officials providing no public service are on the council payroll
    Officials paid for by the state are co-ordinating strikes and distributing union literature

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  10. 23
    Caliphate Ken says:

    To quote “who pay some £186,877 for seven full-time taxpayer-funded trade union officials”

    Well what’s the problem? by my accountants reckoning that’s only 31p per annum per Pilgrim hardly a fortune really !

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  11. 28
    Ah! Monika says:

    Plus photocopiers, subsidised meals, office rent, equipment, typists, coffee, toilet paper, insurance, pensions, telephones, computers, holidays, sickness pay…and a whole lot more

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  12. 30
    Anonymous says:

    The Tories are in office – they could fix this.

    Less PR, more action.

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  13. 34
    Hannibal from Carthage says:

    Georgie Osborne is on the job of separating Socialists from taxpayers money so I anticipate some squealing and howling when the sequestrations start.

    Even better Georgie is now waging war on millionaires who only pay 10% of their gross incomes in tax.

    They will all be shitting themselves tonight then.

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  14. 35
    Jimmy says:

    Which promised consultation? I think there’ve been about half a dozen so far but I may have missed one or two.

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  15. 36
    MP's ... Honesty never the best policy says:

    weigh each suspected pilgrim … if they weigh the same as a duck they are a witch BURN THE WITCH! otherwise just sack no matter what they weigh.

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  16. 40
    J.Rutter says:

    In private companies they have human resources departments and if you’re lucky union representation. In private companies that discourage worker cooperation and consultation there is likely to be a higher degree of bad management and maybe corruption. As well as protecting their own members unions can be a bulwark against corruption and malpractise – otherwise why would british companies be so reluctant to adopt continental practise of allowing trade union reps onto the boards. Just two anti-union examples amoungst many suffice – New International and Enron.
    The attack on so-called pilgrims is not about cost – try factoring in the extra costs from outlawing them (extra human resources people, legal aid, ) – its about attacking public service, local authorities (as ever, a pick and mix localism) and working people who do not have the funds to match the lobbying budgets of major corporations.

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    • 41
      Sophie says:

      I note that you use those two.

      Two out of many successful companies that paid a lot of tax for socialists to fritter away & enrich us all.

      Without the private sector there is no public sector.

      “Fact” as I believe your ilk are fond of saying.

      The corruption in this case is the Labour Party funnelling taxpayers cash to unions who in turn slush fund it back to them after creaming off millions.

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      • 58
        anonymong says:

        It woz Callaghan and Healey wot broke it!

        Resurrect Gladstone and rid us of these duplicitous, incompetent Rumpuy-puppets.

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    • 43
      Disgruntled Sheffielder says:

      I was a union rep for over 20 years in a private company, never got time off for union business, had to pay time back if I was called out. Seemed fair to me and never thought much about until I found out that the plonkers at the council were full time paid officials – then it upset me as I knew how little they actually did.

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    • 47
      GSilver says:

      they can have union representation … but they pay for it themselves (ie no taxpayer subsidy) just like i do.

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    • 53
      jgm2 says:

      Are you off your skull?

      Let us look at the great ‘successes’ of UK unions when they are given too much power:

      British Leyland, British Steel, British Coal, Dock Labour scheme, British Telecom (ten weeks to get a line installed) and so on and so forth.

      Union involvement in anything is a massive unproductive overhead. Without unions we could slash HR departments, slash legal aid and slash council and income tax.

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    • 59
      anonymong says:

      Put your Strawman away. Here’sthe crux of the argument: stop stealing my money to pay for fuckwits to have a better standard of living than I have.

      I pay for public pensions and have to save for my own retirement.
      I pay for the feckless to tick boxes while being held back by bureaucracy.
      I pay for pilgrims to pillage my earnings.

      Pilgrims, apparachiks and nomenklatura should be taken outside and shot in front of their families.

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    • 60
      Leedschris says:

      But the unions do have huge financial resources! When I was in a public sector union, more than ten years ago I was paying over £100 a year in subs – they have millions in assets – but what are they doing with it? My local branch could afford to fritter away money paying for football strips for local football clubs…… should have been spending it on union related activities

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  17. 42
    Grumpy old bumburp says:

    Sophie is correct if you have any Conservative values then vote UKIP

    Cameron will do nothing whatsoever about these Pilgrims, he actually quoted that it was good news that the EU court have given the UK permission to deport Hook

    He should have been deported long ago, stuff what some Latvian Technocrat thinks

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