March 12th, 2012

Exclusive: Boris: I Don’t Fiddle My Taxes
Says Ken is Lying, Ed Miliband Mistaken

This morning at his press conference Guido asked Ed Miliband specifically about Ken’s tax avoiding arrangements. Ed Miliband claimed that Boris used a “similar scheme” to that used by Ken – a claim first made by Ken Livingstone himself on the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show this Sunday. Boris is really not happy to be accused of tax dodging.

This afternoon we asked Boris specifically about his tax arrangements. Here is his angry answer in full:

Dear Guido,

You have asked about my business affairs and tax arrangements. Specifically do I have any company or other arrangements constructed to enable me to pay less tax and do I, as has been claimed by the Labour Mayoral candidate and the Opposition Leader, have the same arrangements as Labour’s Mayoral candidate.

The answer is simple and unequivocal in both cases. No.

My salary as Mayor is taxed as an employee of the GLA. In the same way as when I was an MP my salary was taxed as an employee. Any other income that I have received from outside endeavours has been received on a self-employed basis, to me as an individual (no company or other structure has been involved). No income earned by me has ever been paid to a “service” company, through which a person or person’s freelance earnings can be channeled so that they pay corporation rather than income tax.

To suggest otherwise is a complete and utter fabrication.

Of course the real point is not about my tax arrangements. It is about the hypocrisy of a man who for years has railed against those who use special arrangements to reduce their tax and who has then been caught – bang to rights – doing the very same thing himself.

Boris Johnson

Looks like Ed Miliband owes Boris an apology…


264 Comments

  1. 1
    Tom says:

    But if a politician say one thing then the opposite is true.

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    • 4
      Pawn Sandwich says:

      RedEd should be asked for the source of his information, you cannot just make these false allegations withour reference. We cannot have smear based on lies from our politicians.

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      • 14
        Popeye says:

        Why would they change now?

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        • 101
          What is this for? says:

          He has an estimated personal fortune of around £4 million, as the beneficiary of a trust fund that owns a 15-per-cent stake in Osborne & Little, the wallpaper-and-fabrics company co-founded by his father, Sir Peter Osborne, Bt.[53][54][55]

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Osborne

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        • 107
          What is this for? says:

          Lord Astor’s family trust owns the property company Sableknight, valued at £130million, and his wealth has certainly contributed to Samantha and David’s quality of life.

          Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1191155/Claims-David-Cameron-30m-fortune-sit-uneasily-taxpayers-So-truth-money.html#ixzz1oveQwRHN

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          • Chuckus Yamoney says:

            The avaricious conduct of the cabinet of the previous government who entered Parliament as poor as church mice, but squadered opportunities to do real good as they were too busy becoming multi-millionaires.

            It is therefore better to have a cabinet who are already rich so they don’t spend all their time decitfully lining their pockets They also know how to handle money and how the economy works in the real world without experimenting at our expense.

            When I was a lad, you needed a 20% to 25% deposit for a 4 times annual salary mortgage to buy a house and this was prudent. Dave’s latest wheeze of government assisted 95% mortgages is purely to maintain overinflated property prices and help out the builders and bankers.

            WE NEED TO PRESS RESET AND REVERSE THE DESTRUCTIVE FINANCIALISATION OF OUR ECONOMY TO WHICH WESTMINSTER IS BEHOLDEN AND ADDICTED.

            So fat chance there then

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          • Displaced Brummie says:

            So fucking what, you Labour lackey?

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          • A proper right winger! says:

            Making money isn’t wrong in any way…. What’s wrong is being hypocritical and Ken has been Well and truly exposed as one!

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      • 23
        Gooey Blob says:

        Ed would be wise to distance himself from Ken. Unfortunately, I don’t think he is.

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        • 45
          Animal says:

          Ed is so desperate to win the London mayoral election he doesn’t care who is the labour candidate, or what he says, or what lies he has to fabricate. Anything to win, to make him look less of a liability to the growing murmurs of the party’s rank and file and to keep his job.

          And when I mean anything, just wait to see if this latest lie get thrown round left-wing blogs, CIF, Twitter, anywhere to make it stick, give them breathing space and try to rescue something from the damage Livingstone has done to his campaign.

          As for an apology, forget it. Miliband keeps being portrayed as a dull, nasal halfwit. He is far more of a nasty, unreconstituted, janus-faced little toad than you give him credit for.

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          • Abbot's fat face says:

            anus faced

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          • sandy says:

            Labour lasted for 13 years plying lies that only idiots would be stupid enough to believe. Sadly there are a lot of them around. I blame the state education system.

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          • Strategic Lawyer says:

            Sound like slander to me. Methinks Boris could make a case of it and hold both of them to their words and to a public apology?
            Great PR for Boris if he is clean – watch Red Ken and Ed dive for cover -timing is critical to tie them up.

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      • 189
        Pentangelis says:

        Here here!

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    • 15
      Keep Kommie Ken Out says:

      All politicians are equal, but some more equal than others….

      I would trust Boris more than most other politicians put together. On the other hand, Ken is to be trusted less than a hungry pitbull with rabies.

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    • 202
      AC1 says:

      Interesting lack of detail in this AlJaBeebya article

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-17348302

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      • 246
        bob says:

        hmm but from his name i can guess whats missing!!! but BiasedBBC would not sink low enough.

        Now on the other hand if it had been 2 NON WHITE girls killed by a B&P supporter they would have a photo of him, his house, family and telephone number in the story

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  2. 2
    NeverRed says:

    The headline is wrong!!!!!

    It should read …Ken is lying, Miliband is lying

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  3. 3
    MrAngry61 says:

    However much RedKen attempts to blameshare, and RedEd to ignore it, this hypocrisy isn’t going to go away.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ken’s share of the vote evaporate by election day.

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    • 25
      God's Holy Trousers says:

      Never underestimate just how retarded the average sewer party vote is. Ken will still get a substantial vote. Most (if not all) socialists have shit for brains.

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      • 183
        Stu says:

        No no no my friend Allah has told us how to postal vote and that is all we need.

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      • 220
        Ken says:

        Socialism is for others to believe in and me to make a fat living off .

        Look its ok for Tevez the football player playing for a team but not giving a flying flock of sheep about it , but making a fat pile of cash , I admire that but fuck if I’m then gonna hand it over in tax to a bunch of working people

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      • 241
        Un says:

        Socialists have shit for brains do they? I think the same about Tories.

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    • 38
      A Tower Hamlets resident says:

      I’ve voted for Ken 50 times already

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      • 63
        Gordon F Brown's former advisor says:

        It’s the right thing to do…

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      • 153
        Anonymous says:

        So soon will all the other Al Qaeda and organissedc Fraud/Crime nominees on the Inner London voting registers – not just Tower Hamlets. No wonder Ken no longer cares about the Gay, or any other non-fraudulent vote.

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  4. 5
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    I have to confess, I like Boris.

    Ken, on the other hand, is a grabbing hypocrite. He deserves everything coming to him……..and it will. It will.

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  5. 6
    Barclays Bank employee says:

    We apologise for trying to fiddle

    £500 million ..

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/barclays-centre-tax-avoidance-clampdown-093442532.html

    Where are your priorities Guido ?

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    • 13
      Tom says:

      Ta avoidance is legal and should be used by all (unless you are against tax avoidance).

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      • 191
        Pentangelis says:

        Whether we are for or against tax avoidance is not the point; which is the hypocrisy of both Milliband & Livingstone, coupled with what appears to be a clear-cut slander committed by them both.

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    • 16
      Pawn Sandwich says:

      Nice bit of deflection here. Ooh look at Enron.

      Lets stick with the hypocrite RedKen, have to stay on subject.

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    • 26
      Raving Loon says:

      Barclays was obeying the law and was punished retrospectively. Large numbers perhaps, but its actions were completely legal. Their treatment was unfair and the only reason they don’t garner sympathy is that most people can’t see past the £500m figure.

      Ken’s actions are also legal, just on a smaller scale. The issue at hand is not the legality of the actions, merely Ken’s rhetoric on tax avoidance, which is worth stating again is completely legal. If you think tax avoidance is wrong, in other words each citizen has an obligation to arrange their affairs to maximise the tax they pay to the state, that’s one thing. But to criticise tax avoidance, or legally arranging one’s affairs to minimise one’s tax liability, and then engage in it yourself is hypocritical.

      The main problem is that many politicians (I think deliberately) do not distinguish between tax avoidance and tax evasion, the latter of which is illegal. It’s more than just a technicality, it strikes at the heart of whether you believe in the rule of law or not. If we ban tax avoidance, then we make the argument that every person must necessarily labour to maximise government revenue. Revolutions have been fought over that sort of thing, and we must be very careful not to let the government to take us down that path.

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      • 58
        Lord Stansted says:

        Quite right. I wouldn’t have any problem with Red Ken using a compnay to avoid tax if he and his fellow travellers were not such an appalling hypercrites.

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      • 79
        Anonymous says:

        Barclays Bank were doing something which was perfectly legal and had been done by others previously, including Barclays. What we should all question and be concerned about were the actions of the ‘Revenue’. It is far from clear the HMRC have acted according to the Law. They are saying that the arrangement Barclays were using was contrary to the Banking Code, but the Banking Code is not Law, nor ever has been. It is for Parliament to decide what is or is not the Law, and it is most certainly not for HMRC to invent it when they feel like it.

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        • 89
          Raving Loon says:

          HMRC have effectively suspended the rule of law and said we just want you to give us whatever we think you should give us, regardless of the actual law. This is the same as “gratuity” payments in tin pot African dictatorships run by juntas and mobs.

          The de-facto state of affairs in this country is that the wealthier you are, even if you aquired that wealth legally and fairly (Barclays wasn’t bailed out by taxpayers) the less protection you have under the law.

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          • jrand says:

            Barclays benefitted from the state guarantees supplied to the entire industry and was thus an indirect beneficiary of taxpayer largesse. All the bankers owe us big time and the many crooks among them need to defend their reputations in a court of law accompanied Icelandic-style by McRuin.

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          • Raving Loon says:

            jrand,

            Barclays didn’t ask for artificially cheap credit or state guarantees. It’s not fair that they should have to change their actions because a protection racket was imposed upon them by the government.

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      • 132
        13eastie says:

        Quite.

        We should be content to listen to rhetoric on legal tax avoidance from any and all lefties who can demonstrate the additional personal voluntary tax contributions they are altruistically sending to HMRC.

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      • 223
        Glyn H says:

        Thank you Raving Loon; much more sense from you than some of the silly trolls!

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    • 199
      Displaced Brummie says:

      You really haven’t understood the purpose of this blog, have you? Go to the top of the site, read the description and then seek out the button to get your magic refund.

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  6. 7
    just asking says:

    How many other members of the Labour party have similar tax avoidance arrangements to Livingstone?

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  7. 8
    Gay Simon says:

    Boris should slap Ed.

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    • 37

      Agree. With a writ.

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    • 44
      Cynical-old-bag says:

      He doesn’t need to. Let Ed sue him.

      Ed won’t. Because he knows it’s not true.

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    • 83
      Anonymous says:

      totally agree ken screwed up last time and implemented congestion charge zones taking more money from the tax payer even though they already pay road tax, back boris Johnson, conservatives sort out the mess labour leaves happens every time, that’s why the tories are painted as the bad guys, I’m better off under the conservatives every time labour milk the working class

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      • 108
        I Remember You Hoo says:

        It’s not just the working class who Labour shaft, it’s everyone but their crony pals who they make laws for.

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  8. 9
    Lord Carrington's binoculars says:

    Incredible.

    Livingspart just lies and lies again.

    How does he think he can make stuff up about Boris and get away with it?

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    • 33
      labourunionsbbc we are one says:

      He has thebig boys at the Bbbc behind him to help.

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    • 46
      Raving Loon says:

      Because Boris is a Tory, and Ken thinks therefore that he deserves it. It’s the worst form of mindless partisanship.

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      • 253
        Peter Grimes says:

        WTF else would you expect ZaNuLaB assholes like Livingslime to do? It’s in their DNA!

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    • 55
      inside- out says:

      He probably took a punt that the chances are Boris had similar tax affairs.After all every other MP and politician is.

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    • 72
      NeverRed says:

      Because almost daily on our screens, Miliband, Cooper, Balls, Byrne, Creepy underpants man (forgotten his name), in fact every labour MP and spokespersons make stuff up, i.e. lie

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  9. 10
    Popeye says:

    An apology? Flying pigs.

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  10. 11
    Jock Watcher says:

    Of course Ken is a silly little tax fiddler

    But just look at the hundreds of millions being fiddled by the Banks…

    After they have been bailed out by the UK taxpayer FFS…

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  11. 12
    CT says:

    “Looks like Ed Miliband owes Boris an apology…”

    Don’t hold your breath…

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  12. 17
    Bonos offshore tax haven says:

    Taxation is for the little people

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    • 68
      Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

      Well said Bono, I couldn’t agree more. Do you have a villa in Spain as well as offshore accounts in the BVi, Cayman and Turks and Caicos Isles like me? Boaz.

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    • 99
      Paul Hewson from Glasnevin says:

      Only little little people and not those who are SAS, Short Arsed Superstars, pay taxes

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  13. 19
    not a machine says:

    Biff Baff ………………. winner !

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  14. 20
    HMRC says:

    We are not amused!

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  15. 21
    Sir William Waad says:

    If Ken Livingstone swallowed a nail, he’d shit a corkscrew.

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  16. 22
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    I can’t understand why Ken would think that nobody would check his donations after his waffling on the TV.

    The guy is an arse.

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  17. 27

    ‘I was going for the ball with my head, which I understand is a legitimate move’

    – Boris Johnson

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  18. 29
    Well it's a thought says:

    Ken knows this is his last chance to get anywhere and if Boris wins this time then Ken will just become an out of date has been, just like the ones that litter the BBC and newspapers, he fighting to get another chance at another political life, time has passed him by.

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  19. 31
    Anonymous says:

    Boris you should sue Milliband

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    • 41
      Cynical-old-bag says:

      He doesn’t need to. Let them try and sue Boris.

      They won’t, because they know it’s not true.

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  20. 35
    albacore says:

    Erm, and to how many of those who habitually vote Labour will all of Gudio’s praiseworthy exposures make one iota of difference?
    Just asking.

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  21. 39
    Scamp - The Excitable Dog. says:

    These Labour party geniuses had really better realise that the days of having their cake and eating it are now over.
    In my eyes, in every strata where they try and take the high ground and spout their misinformed robotics, nothing makes them sound more unelectable, nothing makes them sound more dumb and nothing makes their impractical pious altruism ring SO hollow.

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  22. 42
    Old Blue Eyes says:

    I cannot see that what Boris states is untrue – it would be too easy to check. In that case Ken and Ed are guilty of making up blatant lies. This should receive the greatest possible publicity. Come on BBC, Guardian, Daily Mirror and Independent lets be having it.

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    • 48
      Cynical-old-bag says:

      Boris comes across as a it of buffoon.

      He isn’t.

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      • 133
        Mike Hunt says:

        correct, it’s a carefully constructed persona designed to wrong foot the opposition.
        Which succeeds quite often.

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    • 49
      Selohesra says:

      I can’t hold my breath much longer

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    • 50
      BBC, Guardian, Daily Mirror and Independent says:

      Ashcroft, Tory cuts, Ashcroft, Tory cuts, Ashcroft, Tory cuts, Ashcroft, Tory cuts, Ashcroft, Tory cuts.

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    • 52
      BBC Guardian Daily Mirror Independent we are one says:

      The news today…
      The baby eating Tories have accused Ken and Ed of lying but it was down to man made global warming.

      Now here’s the weather with Laura Tobin.

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  23. 51
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Sorry – that was meant to read….

    Boris comes across as a bit of a buffoon.

    He isn’t.

    Too much wine!

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  24. 53
    Ed Moribund says:

    Looks like Ed Miliband owes Boris an apology…

    Sthory Bowhith

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  25. 54
    wait out says:

    If Ed apologises, Ken is finished. If he doesn’t, Ed is finished.

    What do YOU think will happen …

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  26. 60
    Socialists = Sociopaths says:

    Red Ken, a liar and a hypocrite. Who would have thought it ?

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  27. 61
    smoggie says:

    Seems that Red Ken has a better grasp of capitalist tax economising measures than does Comrade Baris. Is not Ken therefore better qualified to be mayor of London?

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  28. 65
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    Why does anybody give a shit about what little Ed says or thinks ?
    To me he looks like someone who struggles to tie his own shoe laces

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  29. 66
    Darren says:

    Mr Boris Johnson: Resolution Letter
    Letter to Ms Karen Buck MP from the Commissioner, 25 June 2008
    I have now completed my consideration of the complaint you sent me on 23 April against Mr Boris Johnson, who at
    the time was the Member for Henley.
    In essence, your complaint was that Mr Johnson failed to register in the time required his shareholding in Finland
    Station Ltd, contrary to the rules relating to the registration of Members’ interests.
    My conclusion is that Mr Johnson was in breach of the rules of the House in failing to register in time his
    shareholdings in Finland Station Ltd. Mr Johnson has explained to me that this was an oversight because he was not
    aware that his shares had any pecuniary value (his holding was of 33 shares each worth £l).
    Mr Johnson has apologised for this oversight. He subsequently registered his shareholdings in the Register of
    Members’ Interests. His entry has, of course, now been removed since he is no longer a Member of Parliament.
    Mr Johnson recognised his oversight therefore and took steps to rectify it. He has apologised. I regard the matter as
    now closed. I shall report the outcome to the Committee on Standards and Privileges at its next meeting.
    I am copying this letter to Mr Boris Johnson.
    25 June 201

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  30. 69
    Worzel's Doppelganger says:

    That gentleman Boris from that there gentleman city, is very handsome, he is.

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  31. 71
    Steve Miliband says:

    Guiders should have framed the question

    ‘If someone denounced tax avoidance but then practiced it themselves would you say they were a predator or a provider?’

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  32. 77
    Ken's To-the-Bin Tax says:

    Shaaaaaddup!

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  33. 81
    seenitallbefore says:

    Since the last election for Mayor, the “all welcome” immigration policy has stuffed enough extra Ken voters into London to ensure a win for him.

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  34. 82
    Guardian Media Group in the Caymans says:

    This is a stinker story.
    Get the CIFerati onto twitter and blogs and try and deflect the story onto anything apart from mendacious Ken’s .

    Start with the usual and work on down until this stiny fish is buried under our sense of righteousness..

    Bankers
    Bankers bonuses
    Philip Green
    Murdoch
    Ashcroft
    NHS
    Pal-epstein
    B+N+P
    and global warming

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  35. 84
    The Lee Jasper Forum-Bot™ says:

    Look Dougal, I told you, That money was just resting in my account, OK?

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  36. 85
    Gaston Glock says:

    Redken is a Yesterday’s Man. A living fossil from the state socialism 1970’s.

    His political death rattles provide a most amusing entertainment.

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  37. 86
    Sir Keith Josephs Preserved Head says:

    Livingstone really should have realised when he lost the last election that he’d had a good run, got away with a lot of things, pushed his luck… and quietly slipped into the House of Lords ( oh you have to laugh at that don’t anyone start I am JOKING) and done media work.
    If he (god forbid) scrapes this election London will descend into chaos and I would expect scandal after scandal to emerge

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  38. 88
    the beast of hmrc says:

    Boris is as much of a liar as ken “i put the pecs in peckham” livingstone

    Rememember Boris’ comment ” its an inverted pyramid of piffle”

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  39. 90
    Gordon Brown says:

    i am against cock fighting

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  40. 91
    Georgia Gould says:

    BoJo cannot manage his affairs to minimise taxes can you trust him to run London?

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  41. 92
    Tron says:

    Ken is such a hypocrite and liar but on this blog everyone already knows this. He has been getting away with it for years.

    If Boris was doing this it would be on the BBC News every night until he apologised.

    But this is Ken, the Cheeky Chapie, man of the people. I’ve never seen anyone get the better of him on TV. Certainly not Marr.

    He would never let Brillo have a go.

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    • 106
      Cynical-old-bag says:

      Wait and see.

      This could well be his undoing.

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    • 144
      Ichabod says:

      I saw Niall Ferguson put Livingstone in his place once on QT, but then they were debating an economic matter, and Livingstone can’t really waffle and humbug on technical subjects.

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    • 261
      Anonymous says:

      brillo would gut ken from scrotum to throat

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  42. 93
    Bolly 'Plantin Seed' Bumden says:

    Ohh get you ducky

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  43. 93
    Ed the fed says:

    That he has the time to respond within an afternoon to two blokes sat in their pants shows that he’s not taking the job of Mayor seriously.

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    • 135
      Infuriated of West Mids says:

      Doesn’t it rather say more about you that you think an email such as that would take any appreciable time whatsoever to write?

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    • 192
      Your Average Guido-Blog Reader says:

      Guido and Neo-Guido sitting around in their pants?

      Oh Jeez…

      MIND BLEACH, STAT!

      I’m all right now. I hope.

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  44. 95
    Kered Ybretsae says:

    OK. So there is NO Borisgate, and if he is so emphatically open, then we can believe him. But Kengate and Silvetagate plus all his hypocritical speeches, which are just plain blah! blah! Which surely disqualifies him from any honourable election. With or without a vest ‘n shirt!

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    • 97
      Bolly 'Plantin Seed' Bumden says:

      But Ken is a ‘socialist’ (read parasite) so he ‘deserves’ to win the election from that nasty rich bloke

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  45. 98
    Bolly 'Plantin Seed' Bumden says:

    Dear Rupert Murdoch

    Can you give me a job

    Thanks

    xxxx

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  46. 100
    ReJoyce! says:

    I bet that privately Labour are congratulating Joyce for his behaviour.

    Eric Joyce has resigned from the Labour Party after admitting attacking four politicians during a drunken evening in a House of Commons bar. The MP for Falkirk, in a personal statement to the Commons, said he had handed his resignation to party leader Ed Miliband.

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    • 103
      Bolly 'Plantin Seed' Bumden says:

      Yeah but if the tables where turned and Tories started lamping Labour MP’s they’d be the first to scream ‘oppressive fascists’

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  47. 102
    Bolly 'Plantin Seed' Bumden says:

    I’m going to get a telling off from ontablets. :(

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  48. 105
    Golly says:

    How many parents of Eton pupils past and present are pure and simple PAYE taxpayers?

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  49. 109
    Gordon Brown says:

    I am Batman!

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    • 151
      Some Geezer wot would like to cut him off without a brass farthing says:

      No, you’re not, but by being paid to be a no-show MP, you ARE robbin’.

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  50. 110
    George0 says:

    So you problem is not Ken’s tax arrangents but his hypocrisy?
    Boris Johnson says in the NS that the love of his life is his wife Marina meanwhile having multiple affairs , one in City Hall with an advisor and getting her pregnant. And he is not a hypocrite?

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    • 121
      DUEMA says:

      Boris is still married to her and lives with her, so technically speaking the epithet, ‘love of his life’ applies more to Marina than any of the other women he’s slept with or made pregnant. Trouble is, Ken seems to think that being married to money is wrong for other people and not himself.

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    • 123
      DUEMA says:

      Boris is still married to her and lives with her, so technically, the epithet, ‘love of his life’ applies more to Marina than any of the other women he’s slept with or made pregnant. Trouble is, Ken seems to think that being married to money is wrong for other people and not himself.

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      • 134
        annette curton says:

        They should invent another adjective (is it?) for Ken, the word hypocrisy doesn’t do him justice.

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      • 159
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        Another own goal by the great unwashed. Ken’s private life has it’s little ups and downs as well.

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    • 227
      Yeah But says:

      How, in this day and age, + all the equipment on offer, – did she c.u.m to get pregnant? Did she think she was taking notes?

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      • 234
        Anonymous says:

        How in this day and age did he manage to get her pregnant? Did he not give a flying f**k for her – one of the unimportant little people. The man is an absolute hoon, alongside anyone but Livingstone this would stand out a mile.

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  51. 112
    Steptoe and son says:

    Joyce resigned! Derrrty old man!

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  52. 116
    Dave Laws says:

    How much do you claim for ‘expenses’ against your self-employment payments, Boris?

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  53. 117
    ToonBob... says:

    Porkies pies abound in Ken’s world….

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  54. 118
    Les McEwans says:

    Cheerio Eric. Phone the polis then phone your girlfriends baybe sitter. Let her know yer sober!
    Bye baby, baby don’t cry. Bye, bye, bye!

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  55. 120
    Kevin T says:

    It’s a pretty depressing time to be a Conservative right now, what with Cameron sucking the EU’s cock as enthusiastically as his 3 predecessors while doing fuck all to improve the economy, and the US Republicans looking set to give the useless Obama a second term.

    Thank god for Ken Livingstone to give us some light relief. At least we will get the pleasure of watching this complete and utter c u n t (sorry, “Huhne” will not do) getting hoisted on his own petard and his career ending in humiliation and shame.

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    • 226
      Yeah But says:

      Then he’ll have the grand excuse for getting that obligatory LieBore Disease: ‘DEPRESSION’ – you’re no-one nowadays unless you have it! – and a lorra lorra sympathy!

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  56. 122
    Kevin T says:

    One confusing thing about the story though – why is Boris angry? If I was in his shoes right now, I would be over the bloody moon.

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  57. 128
    Gordon Brown says:

    Does my bum look big in this?

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  58. 129
    annette curton says:

    To set things straight Joyce hasn’t resigned as an MP (Falkirk) oh deary me no, still plenty of troughing months left until 2015.

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  59. 138
    Mean & Moody on what not to say to Eric Joyce if you are a toreee! says:

    Joyce is down graded to the AA. Bra size that is, just kidding! Oh chute!
    How juvenile! Damn my skoolboy humour! Ah well Eric, politics is all swings and roundabouts. Damn Jimmy Krankie!

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  60. 139
    Anonymous says:

    A West Yorkshire teenager will appear in court on Friday after allegedly making comments on Facebook about the deaths of six soldiers in Afghanistan.

    Azhar Ahmed, 19, of Fir Avenue, Ravensthorpe, faces a racially aggravated public order charge.

    Ravensthorpe – shit hole muzzy ghetto in Dewsbury.

    Treasonous bastard.

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    • 247
      bob says:

      it was on facebook, a few of my friends found out his address but the police had lifted him as a precaution just before a few ex-marines went around for a chat.

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  61. 141
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Time for Ed Miliband and Ken Livingstone to declare all of their finacial dealings, including family members. After all they are the accusers.

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  62. 142
    AA says:

    So Falkirk is left with a piss up without a party. The c’unt Joyce better go to the AA meetings like every alky has to. No rehab in the Bahamas in the quest to find himself at the expense of taxpayer. No siree. AA or down and out! That’s it.

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  63. 145
    Felicity Kendal Mint Fake says:

    So is this the blog of ‘plots, rumours and conspiracy” or just another right wing voice box rather like the Evening Standard which is running an unashamedly anti Ken campaign. I’m not that keen on Ken (or Boris, they are both creeps and self serving in their own way) but this blatantly one sided campaigning is rather naff.

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    • 154
      Lord Carrington's Binoculars says:

      Ah. The good old I’m-nota-fan-of-Livingstone line.

      Haven’t seen that trotted out since the 2010 election, when the local Labour party drones were given it to try and damp down hostility to Moron Brown on the blogs.

      I’d give it up If I were you. In the last 48 hours Ken has invented two fake employees and lied about Boris’s tax arrangements.

      Can only get worse from here on in.

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      • 232
        Felicity Kendal Mint Fake says:

        Yep but even if Ken hadn’t turned out to be a tax dodger (sorry minimiser) this blog and the Evening Standard would be running some negative story on him. Indeed if Ken was Boris we would be hearing endlessly about his affairs etc.

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  64. 146
    Must get a pseudonym one day says:

    Didn’t notice much about this story on the BBC News tonight. Funny that.

    Like

    • 163
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      It’s all a question of balance. The blogs are running with the story, so the BBC provides balance by ignoring it.

      Like

  65. 149
    Gathering Storm says:

    Oh yes that’s the question, which smells worse folks dog shit or cat shit?
    Rome is burning down around us and this is important?
    The US of fuckin’ A is borrow about 35% of it’s spending this year, that’s how the spending will be funded. Japan will borrow 49% of it’s spending this year, they like funding their spending that way.
    50% borrowing!

    The world is totally insane!

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    • 155
      Lord Carrington's Binoculars says:

      Quite so. When this hits the fan, they’ll be starving in the streets.

      The Great Depression will have nothing on a global 20 percent cut in public spending

      Like

      • 158
        WVM says:

        Indeed, the central planners are like an addict or a hardened ex-con. The addict keeps using despite the health impact and the hardened ex-con tries to get back in the clink after being unable to deal with the real world. Just the same central planners keep borrowing and spending. Why?

        Because they don’t know any other way to live.

        The difference is of course when the addict relapses or the institutionalized criminal reoffends, they (mostly) only impact themselves. The central planners will destroy the economies of the western world because they literally do not know to do anything but what they are doing. They are addicted to the conveniences of inflating the money supply, they are institutionalized by Keynesian economics, and nothing will stop them until reality finally brings it crashing down.

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      • 162
        Sheeple says:

        I’d glady pay you with my grandkids earnings for a cheeseburger today.

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    • 156
      Titanic says:

      QE3 on the way.

      Like

    • 160
      WVM says:

      The world is not insane.
      It is collapsing.
      Next comes war, it always does.

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    • 233
      sockpuppet #4 says:

      Japan had a once-in-1000 years natural disaster.
      If they’re spending far more than average to rebuild their country, they have got a reasonable excuse.

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  66. 150
    Professor Henry Brubaker, Institute for Studies says:

    Is it not slanderous to make a statement whoch you know to be untrue or cannot be substantiated by facts and that affects a persons reputation negativley?

    As such are not ken and eds statements not actionable?

    Just curious……..

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    • 166
      Pawn Sandwich says:

      Well if Boris was to ‘threaten’ litigation then the BBC would have to report it – at present the BBC are witholding news and as such showing strong political bias.

      Like

  67. 167
    huwwuh says:

    That statement given by Boris was as sincere as anything I have read. ”An honest answer is as a kiss on the lips”.

    Like

  68. 172
    Jimmy says:

    Tomorrow as part of his campaign against hypocrisy, Guido will be publishing his tax return in full.

    Like

    • 175
      Professor Henry Brubaker, Institute for Studies says:

      Once he rails against and denounces those who conduct themselves in the same manner as himself then perhaps it will be news and a demonstration of hypocrisy.

      Until that time, much like with red ken up until now, i couldnt give a f u c k

      Me? self employed via a limited company so as to pay as little tax as lawfully possible so the government doesnt waste it on feckless dole scrounging c u n t s or sponging virtually unemployed civil servant cockbags. Or filthy foreign swine who detest our way of life, Like the milibands for instance.

      But unlike newtfucker i dont have a problem with others doing the same, even if it is ken, or even you, you c u n t.

      Begin the jogging on procedure, and be quick about it.

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      • 186
        Jimmy says:

        I thought I detected some railing and denouncing. Perhaps you missed it.

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        • 188
          Professor Henry Brubaker, Institute for Studies says:

          Im pretty sure i told you to jog on. Go google the word hypocrisy, im sure you will find a giant picture of ken sucking of a gay muslim terrorist newt with aids. Or something.

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          • Socialists = Sociopaths says:

            Hypocrisy and Mendacity. It’s in Liebour’s D-N-A.

            Like

          • Anonymous says:

            Jimmy doesn’t get the concept of hypocrisy, he’s a socialist ffs.

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          • Jimmy says:

            I did google it and the illustration was someone b@nkrupted by the revenue for non-payment of tax lecturing someone else on their ta arrangements. Wonder what that was about.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Shame you didn’t see the example of a socialist politician who berates ‘rich bastards’ for not paying their full share of tax by using perfectly legal tax arrangements, but then does the same himself. I don’t know if you’ve noticed Jimmy, but Guido isn’t a socialist and like me will find any way to screw the tax system, because we don’t trust fucking dim politicians to spend our money wisely. Ergo, Guido is not a hypocrite for owing the tax man money, because he does not pretend to have a socialist, grandstanding stance, unlike the hypocrite, Livingslime. I was right, you socialists just don’t get hypocrisy do you? So sad.

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  69. 174
    Outlier says:

    The Militwats both know about tax avoidance http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/oct/09/ed-miliband-journalists-in-glass-houses
    People in glass houses…..

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  70. 176
    Livingstone's cat says:

    I’m gutted.

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  71. 180
    Anonymous says:

    Boris should sue for defamation. That would shut them up.

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  72. 185
    Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

    Am I the only person who cannot see the problem here. I use a company for my consultancy services delivered in Germany, charge the Germans a fortune for advice they could get off the internet and then pay tax on it. As long as the rules say this is ok, so what? I benefit, the government benefits and the Germans lose. Its whats called a win-win.

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    • 187
      Professor Henry Brubaker, Institute for Studies says:

      Do you denounce those who do the same as you as ‘rich bastards’ who should be stripped of their basic rights because they lawfully do the same as you?

      If so you are like Ken and therefore a hypocritical c u n t

      If not then you are like me and therefore fucking brilliant.

      Surely thats not too hard to understand.

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  73. 190
    Displaced Brummie says:

    So Ed Miliband took what Ken Livingstone said at face value?

    He believed the beneweted liar?

    Fucking Hell. If anyone needed confirmation that Ed Miliband is utterly unfit to lead a political party, then this is it.

    No! Sorry, on second thoughts… Ed is the perfect and most able man of his generation to lead the Labour Party. In no way did the wrong brother win the election…

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    • 239
      I don't need no doctor says:

      Mark Serwotka says Ed’s victory was a resounding success. Yes that’s Serwotka the twatting hypocritical wanker.

      Like

  74. 203
    Seen this sowhere says:

    Labour leader Ed Miliband was spotted at a football match just hours after claiming he was ‘too ill’ to attend a planned protest against NHS reforms.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2113838/Ed-Miliband-seen-football-match-hours-claiming-ill-attend-NHS-reforms-protest.html#ixzz1owuFAdfV

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  75. 204
    Ha ha says:

    Like

  76. 205
    Ratlines says:

    A politician without his nose in the trough. Whatever next?

    Like

  77. 210
    Sad Warsi says:

    I love vegatarian chicken.

    Like

  78. 211
    Jar Jar Binks says:

    Mesa think Ken is wanker!

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  79. 215
    Dalai Llama Ding Dong says:

    Not that anyone is listening but Ed Vaisey was HAMMERED on Newsnight, and his buddy Jewemy lat him off.

    What a ferking laugh!!!

    Look at this PLANK…

    Early life

    Vaizey is the son of the late Lord Vaizey, a life peer, and Marina Vaizey, a well-known art historian. As the son of a peer he has the title “The Honourable Edward Vaizey”. Vaizey spent part of his childhood growing up in Berkshire. He was educated at St Paul’s School and Merton College, Oxford, where he rose to the rank of Librarian (Vice President) of the Oxford Union and took a BA in History, achieving a 2.1.

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  80. 217
    Dalai Llama Ding Dong says:

    Vaizey hammered on Newsnight, buddy Jewemy let him off.

    Boaz.

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  81. 224
    Bugler Bert says:

    Ed Millibrain apologise? you can wait until the cows come home; he has neither the breeding nor courage. As for Ken leninspart; anyone that accepts he tells the truth about anything, obviously cannot tell the difference between his arse and his elbow!

    Like

  82. 228
    A Sub-Prime Prick Posing as a Sub PM says:

    I say chaps – this is jolly spiffing!!!! My dreams of being like Tone have come true!!!

    Like

    • 231
      albacore says:

      You’ve exceeded all expectations
      But don’t expect any ovations
      In bringing this great old nation down
      You’re more than a match Gordon Brown

      Like

  83. 229
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    Boris, its someone else’s turn on the van der graaf generator.

    Like

  84. 235
    Felicity Kendal Mint Fake says:

    Thing is both Ken and Boris represent and serve particular interest groups neither of which happen to be the people of London….if you want to bang on about Ken’s hypocrisy all well and good but don’t for a moment think that Boris is somehow on your side.

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  85. 240
    b says:

    eric joyce resigns from the labour party – but wouldn’t we all like to attack felow mps in the bar??

    Like

  86. 245
    mark says:

    but does boris admit to breaking other laws?

    Like

  87. 254
    Antony Warhol Romps On says:

    Well we shall see.. I always say the proof of the pudding is in its ‘lifting

    .. I mean eating !

    Like

  88. 256
    Stan Laurel says:

    Sorry Guido — who is b ??

    Could it possibly be construed that my reply to an inanimate constitutes grounds for exposing your organ to libel ? .
    Get yourself a new set of ” briefs ” — this lot are frit of their own shadow !!

    Like

  89. 257
    Stan Laurel says:

    Alright Guido fair play … you finally published .

    Beter late …etc etc

    Like

  90. 258
    Stan Laurel says:

    As you were Guido my mistake — you have NOT published . Hope mental block cleared soon ..

    Like

  91. 259
    Q says:

    It’s all sour grapes, Ed is just annoyed that Boris has gotten more women into Labour than Ken ever could do.

    Like

  92. 264
    In Soviet Russia says:

    my taxes didn’t fiddle I!

    Like


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