Debate Tonight:
“Lobbyists Are Paid to Thwart the Democratic Will.”
Tonight Guido and Tamasin Cave from Spinwatch are proposing the motion for debate that “Lobbyists Are Paid to Thwart the Democratic Will”. Mark Adams from Stand Up 4 Lobbying and Justin Fisher from the The Magna Carta Institute are opposing.
The event is taking place in Smith Square, Westminster and the audience will probably be riddled with lobbyists. So if you want to attend tonight and bolster the forces of democracy, email debate@StandUp4Lobbying.org, There is free booze courtesy of Ellwood and Atfield. Full details here. See you later…
But dont we all lobby in viarous ways? websites, petitions etc?
But not necessarily for pure financial gain.
But, Take this site, guido makes money from it while lobbying for certain things (death pen example) , is that not the same?
Lobbying is essential for my industry.
The lifeblood of any developed nation, is reliable, affordable energy and planning based on certainty of supply.
That is why many billions of pounds are being invested so wisely in wind power.
It is also why any form of energy that involves the production of the de-adly killer gas CO2, should be taxed out of profitable existence.
Luckily, our great nation has for the last fifteen years, been ruled by forward thinking progressives, who understand the need for such things and continue to support our ende-avours.
Even yesterday, the magnificent Cameron sprang to our defence saying ”Wind farms increase energy security & keep bills down”.
Who could doubt such honesty, clarity and integrity and cynically claim lobbying had anything at all to do with it?
On behalf of our industry, I say well done Dave and trebles all round!
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Wind farms increase energy security & keep bills down
The science is settled.
Did somebody say Lobbying?
This link on the Nuclear lobby, hinting at deals brokered by at least one certain former PM, identifies companies also engaged in Windfarms, EoN for starters.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5149676.stm
It does bring into focus the reasons Mr Cameroon and Tsarcozy were grinning about military and nuclear agreement.
OT Greece to be Asset Stripped for Benefit of Non Greek banks (well their owners).
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/greece%E2%80%99s-lenders-have-right-seize-national-gold-reserves
Not just the Greeks it seems. It looks like the Germans want all the PIIGS gold, for “temporary safe keeping” no doubt.
“Recent months have seen many senior German government officials calling for so called “PIIGS” nations gold reserves to be used as collateral. Such as Angela Merkel’s budget speaker and his opposition counterpart who urged Portugal to consider selling their gold.
Norbert Barthle, Germany’s governing coalition budget speaker and his counterpart Carsten Schneider from the Social Democrats, the biggest opposition party, urged Portugal to consider selling some of its gold reserves to ease its debt problems. They called for a review of Portugal’s request for financial aid to include gold and other potential asset sales.”
What is there to debate?
It is self evident from the word “Lobbying”.
They are all guilty of perverting the course of government.
Did someone say free booze?
You’ll say that you’re driving if we’re stopped Carina?
Yes, but watch out for the headbutters.
If Joyce doesn’t like Tories then why doesn’t he stay in jockland, there’s only 1 left
‘I ‘ad that Eric Joyce in the back of the cab once. Took ‘im from city airport to the commons.
“Ta matey!” He said. “..Whoo march wuld eit be to if I took this cab an ah wannaed tae go tae Falkirk!”
“£700 Jock!” I told him.
“Then give mae a receipt fer thar amount. An add a £50 tip fer yesself”
nice bloke..be lucky!’
IS THAT ‘STAND-UPS’ FOR LOBBYING
‘Free booze’ Any chance the night will end with Guido twonking Justin Fisher.
I see Guido is asking for camera footage of last nights fracas at the Strangers bar.
Isn’t it time they brought in CCTV cameras to the bar if they can’t behave themselves.
Or are CCTV cameras only for the little people?
I find the motion proven.
Hang all the lobbyists.
Did someone say motions?
When do I start?
I’ve been waiting for this day for years…
Sounds like a fun event. Just needs a quick run through with our wikitweaks department.
“Lobbyists Are unpaid to chart the Democratic Will”
there..that’s better.
Well done to the female Tory MP who bravely told that thug Joyce that he should try and punch her before he attacks her staff. Can you imagine any Labour MP doing that?
I’d have lamped her.
Oops, trouble with the ‘cost of things’ word. Try again:
Seems to be Jackie Doyle-Pr*ce, according to Waugh’s column, MP for Thurrock.
Essex girls, always up for it.
Seems to be Jackie Doyle-Price, according to Waugh’s column, MP for Thurrock.
Essex girls, always up for it.
Perhaps the implicit assumption that there is such a thing as a “democratic will” or indeed that there is something called democracy at work in the UK might be a more suitable way to begin.
Does anyone want me to come along to talk about corruption? I will do it for free if there are any young girls there. Boaz.
I heard that Eric Joyce had a smashing time last night.
It’s the way I tell ‘em!
any chance we can get ‘antidisestablishmentarianism’ chucked into your speech?
Eric Joyce: “There’s too many Tories in this bar”. That’s because there’s more Tory MPs than Labour ones, Eric.
BBC are already burying this story.
Their headline even puts ‘assualt’ in quotes FFS!
“Lobbyists Are Paid to Thwart the Democratic Will”
Lobbyists are an excuse for our representatives to stop representing us. They are not the cause of our representatives being shits – we are for picking them.
Lobbyists are merely a convenient fig leaf; it’s the MP’s who are paid (and quite well, considering the perks) to thwart the public will; “When you elected me you elected my conscience,” ya da da, ya da dee. Lobbyists are just “enablers,” as the touchy-feely warm-&-fuzzy crowd like to say.
free booze …and all the violence you can handle.
free s t e r o i d s ….. and all the rugby you can handle
Let me see if I understand this correctly. Labour want a fully integrated multi cultural society.
Without Tories.
I’m afraid you will have to count me out guido, I’m otherwise engaged.
In the last week we’ve had Labour councillors praise the IRA, another Labour councillor say she wishes Mrs Thatcher would go blind, and Eric Joyce launch a violent unprovoked attack on Tory MPs. Labour: still nasty.
Be fair, it may not have been unprovoked. Perhaps the tory was wearing a blue cravat or a pinstripe suit – provocative fucker.
What do you think about a group of people who confuse extortion and sharing?
Well after all they are all in it together, luvvly Jubbly for some, the sad part is that they are all so collectively thick that they keep crapping on their own doorstep.
You DID have that Tory councillor woman slapping that old man, the old slapper!
The woman who took on Eric Joyce and won.
Does she like a podger?
We understand that Lord Ashcroft provoked Mr Joyce.
A good reference for your attack on lobbyists this evening
http://www.economist.com/node/3881153
BBC News still not running the Eric Joyce story in the first fifteen minutes from the top of the hour. First mention of it at sixteen minutes past the top of the hour for fifteen seconds.
Arthur insists that Mr Fawkes lobbies on behalf of these immigrants living under a bridge in West London. Maybe some rowing boats, etc.
http://www.londonnet.co.uk/news/2012/feb/hundreds-homeless-immigrants-living-rough-west-london.html
AH (C)
We have millions of unemployed and we have Indian immigrants coming here to do building work?
We should apply the law of equivalence to immigration. We get your hard working, risk willing labour, you get our work shy, benefit addicted lumpen proles. I reckon no more than 3 months on the bottom of the social ladder in Bangalore will turn them into enterprising and energetic workers. Or they’ll dead.
What kind of notice is this for people living outside London? The lobbyists must be quaking in their metropolitan boots.
I don’t agree, look at: http://hillpost.in/2012/02/29/power-bill-waiver-rs-3900-crore-arrears-for-haryana/ Amy