February 13th, 2012

Ethical Dilemmas Arising in Journalist and Police Relationships

While journalistic relations with the police are in the headlines, the usual hand-wringers should pause before passing judgement. Whilst slipping coppers cash is morally dubious, is it worse than using what the recent Filkin report described as “long-standing tactics”? The Metropolitan Police report into The Ethical Issues Arising From The Relationship Between Police And Media“ was clear, “Flirting is often interlinked with alcohol. Designed to get you to drop your defences and say far more than you intended. Be careful.” Such tactics are not unknown to hackettes from papers that consider themselves to be much more upmarket, almost on a different moral plane to the Sun…

A hypothetical dilemma for you to consider, which is less ethical: performing what the tabloid papers call a “sex-act” on a police officer for information, or paying for it? Normally less of a trail left with the former, if the evidence is swallowed…


225 Comments

  1. 1
    DavidLeigh3 says:

    It’s a lie. I don’t swallow.

  2. 2
    Insider says:

    If you bribe a copper then he is corrupt. therefore is in breach of the law.

    Journos, police and politicons should not be above the law, however it seems that they are on a different planet.

    • 7
      Tony Bliar is really not a nice person says:

      I wish they were………..

      • 14
        Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

        Does Manchester count? Its certainly a shithole at the end of the universe.

        • 18
          Anonymous says:

          According to the BBC, Salford is the centre of the universe.

          • Hanging's too good for 'em says:

            Yep, and I’m the King of Bongobongo.

          • ein volk, ein reich, ein salford says:

            They only hold the biggest and most prodigious award ceremonies there. The BBC have singlehandedly changed the political map of the UK by generously moving ungrateful employees oop t’north from ‘that loondon’ with license fee payers money.

            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16954049

          • Ichabod says:

            Thirty odd years ago, just after the Iranian embassy siege was ended by the SAS , there appeared a couple of hint- hint, nudge- nudge references in the press relating that a female tele -journalist was suspected of providing sexual favours to one of the uniformed personnel ( army or police, I forget which) in order to get more info. In our house at the time we all thought it was **** *****

          • the stench of hypocrisy says:

            Apart from Victoria Derbyshire, who flies ‘oop north and back for her crap Rado 5 programme every day.
            How that quite squares with the BBC’s obsession with climate change is beyond me.

          • Sir Aston Martin says:

            @stench

            If they’re serious about CO2 emissions, why do they encourage the nation to run 30 million TV sets and a similar number of radios — not to mention computers and whatnot? Basic hypocrisy right there.

          • My Lord Kinnockio, EUSSR, NBG, opiniing and whining says:

            now listen boyo, – or girlo – or whatever it is nowadays things have changed since I was a boy I can tell you with Glynis and all her work and this is the knub of it work work like what we have done and all you get is a pension from the EUSSR and expenses of course and travel and lodging and the BBC keep asking me to go and give very expert opinion on the question what was the question and I tell Glynis I was nearly PM and she said the valleys would have rung with the sound of singing in the valleys see that’s where I come from and if you want anything done you just ask . . . .

          • Marmalade says:

            Sir A.M., add Top Gear to the list

            (Should that be ‘Top Closet Queers’?

          • Marmalade says:

            Sir A.M., add Top Gear to that list

            (Should that be ‘Top Closet Qu33rs’?

          • BBC Auditor says:

            Only because we have spent millions of pounds on contracts, removals and infrastructure in a benighted region of Manchester.
            It is our very own urban renewal project at taxpayer expense and with a little help from the EC.

        • 59
          Anonymous says:

          That’s Liverpool. Manchester is just an oily floater!

          • Durr says:

            Call me old fashioned Guido but making any cash payment to a police officer is potentially a serious crime

  3. 3
    Glop says:

    I snowball. Yum yum.

  4. 4
    Chris lowe's hamster. says:

    Three hail marys just for thinking about it.

  5. 6
    Lawless says:

    A gold star for the picture editor.

    It’s good there’s totty for everyone on Guido

  6. 8
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    My father was a City of London policeman for more than 30 years.

    If he’d been caught taking a back-hander, he’d have lost his job. End of.

    • 12
      Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

      An acquaintance in the 70s was a hardcore member of a biker gang. He joined the West Midlands police.

      • 30
        Cynical-old-bag says:

        Wasn’t like that in the City Police.

        Back in the 60′s my father told the driver of a Rolls Royce to move his car as it was causing an obstruction. It wasn’t moved so my father issued a ticket.

        He was hauled up before the Commisi*ner – in full dress – to explain why he had done this. He would not retract his ticket or give an apology. My father told the Commision*r that he didn’t see why some people should be treated differently to others.

        It turned out, that the car belonged to the Commision*r’s brother. Some time after that incident, my father sat a Seargeant’s exam four times and failed twice by one mark, and twice by half a mark. He remained a Pol*ce Const*ble all his working life.

        That’s what life was like then.

        • 161
          Sir Aston Martin says:

          Full of asterisks. I remember them well, tho’ I were but a nipper. We used to scrump them in the school holidays.

      • 33
        Cynical-old-bag says:

        Wasn’t like that in the C*ty P*lice.

        Back in the 60′s, my father t*ld the dr*ver of a R*lls R*yce to m*ve his c*r as it was causing an obstr*ction. It wasn’t moved so my father issued a t*cket.

        He was hauled up before the C*mmisi*ner – in full dr*ss – to explain why he had done this. My father would not r*tract his t*cket or give an ap*logy. My father told the C*mmision*r that he didn’t see why some pe*ple should be treated dIfferently to others.

        Sorry about asterisks – I was m*dded.

        It turned out, that the car belonged to the Commision*r’s brother. Some time after that incident, my father sat a Seargeant’s exam four times and failed twice by one mark, and twice by half a mark. He remained a Pol*ce Const*ble all his working life.

        That’s what life was like then.

        • 41
          Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

          In Brum in the 70s the West Midlands Serious Crime squad was named after its activities. On a smaller scale, you could pass the Police College on Hagley Road at 11.00 any night and watch the cadets holding up the traffic for their senior officers to exit. They needed the help because they were all totally pissed, despite driving home. That’s what life was like then.

          • Cynical-old-bag says:

            Certainly very different from the City Pol*ce.

          • Anonymous says:

            Where I live, I don’t think the kids know the coppers have legs, they only see them in police cars

          • smoggie says:

            Good on yer ol’ dad.

            If you don’t have self respect you have nothing.

          • Conrad says:

            A regular in a pub I worked in twenty years ago once told me that he fell in with a group of off duty Metropolitan police who as they fell out of the pub legless included his vehicle registration along with their’s when they phoned the numbers in to be put out over the air as ‘ not to be stopped’.

          • 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸.... says:

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            Anonymous : v funny. 5 stars for you.

          • Pundit Too says:

            In the early 60′s I always went to the Police Ball on New Year’s Eve as we were never stopped when driving home afterwards.

        • 44
          The Paragnostic says:

          It’s “drive” wot did it ;-)

        • 50
          jgm2 says:

          That’s what civil service life is still like I suspect. Hence why there are so few whistle-blowers and why we end up with NHS death-camps, wars in Iraq and an anally r*ap*ed economy.

          ‘One word from you – and ypu can forget about your ca*reer/pension sonny..’ And the occasional live fire exercise such as the Hutton Report to dr*i*ve home the message. Labour even went one better and started arresting opposition MPs for good measure. A tactic not tried since Charles I.

          • Cynical-old-bag says:

            Agreed. My father knew a lot of stall holders in Smithfield Market. They would regularly give stuff to Pol*ce Offic*rs – especially around Christmas time. Dad would never take anything.

        • 132
          A skeptic ulcer says:

          Sadly, a simple spelling mistake could have worked in your father’s favour. Boaz.

          The C*ty of L*nd*n P*l*ce: mission statement “Excellence in Serving the Corporation” (er, “Community” surely?).

          • Anonymous says:

            not quite, it is who pays the piper buys buys the tune, The Corporation pay for the piper to play their tune and dance

  7. 9
    Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

    I am suprised that the papers have never thought of hiding their misdeeds in the same way as Lord Cashbox of DeSleaze; base the operation offshore and hidden behind multiple companies and trusts based in opaque jurisdictions.

    • 16
      The Paragnostic says:

      What, like the Scott Trust?

      http://www.gmgplc.co.uk/the-scott-trust/

      Heaven forbid that Plod or the Revenue ever look too closely at that particular nest of vipers…

      • 21
        Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

        Not really. The Scott Trust is now a limited company based in the UK with published report and accounts. Bit easier to investigate than multiple layers based in Belize, Turks and Caicos, Monaco, Lichtenstein and who knows where. But nice try to divert from a discussion of principle to a party point.

        • 26
          jgm2 says:

          But nice try to divert from a discussion of principle to a party point./i

          Quite so.

          hiding their misdeeds in the same way as Lord Cashbox of DeSleaze

          Your slip is showing.

        • 27
          The Paragnostic says:

          Funnily enough, your raising of Ashcroft seemed a little party political too.

          Sauce for the goose, dear boy – sauce for the goose.

          We could try again – how about Windrush and the Blair millions? 8 million quid that should have been taxed disappearing in unnacountable “expenses”?

        • 45
          Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

          Not really boys; I would make the same point about a socialist Lord doing the same but (generally) they do not have the competence – only the same venality. Lord Cashbox is just the obvious example.

          • The Paragnostic says:

            It would be nice to find out how Mangledbum got the money for his swanky house though.

            As far as Ashcroft goes, at least he has created jobs and wealth in this country rather than creating non-jobs and destroying wealth as the Socialists did. If he hasn’t paid as much tax as you’d like then that’s just tough – he’s obviously clever enough to avoid such impositions.

          • Cynical-old-bag says:

            Geoffrey Robinson??????

          • The Paragnostic says:

            Not that house, COB – the new one he unaccountably bought when he returned from his European sojourn. Aluminium clad, I gather.

          • All our Yesterdays says:

            WTF was that little incident involving Robinson, a Police Van and Cocaine all about ?

          • jgm2 says:

            And here’s to you, Geoffrey Robinson,
            Mandy’s borrowed cash and now he’s own’d, ow- ow- own’d,
            Gord blesses you Geoffrey Robinson
            Tony makes a Lord of those who pay,
            (pay, pay, pay… pay, pay pay)

            ….

  8. 10
    Insider says:

    ust a thought, if the police will accept acts/payments of journos for info, then what to stop them doing it for crimanils?

    You media types havent really thought this thro, have you?

    • 163
      Sir Aston Martin says:

      I don’t wish to be rude, but have you only just been weaned?

      • 225
        Durr says:

        I’m getting very worried now. Are here still any straight coppers? On the basis there are, can they please arrest the bent bastards please…now? I have no such worries about red top journo’s. I expect them to be totally bent.

  9. 13
    Lord Prescott says:

    Unless you credit me with the image you have published of me modelling my new uniform, I will sue you.

  10. 15
    Middlesbrough twinned with Paris says:

    Man pleaded guilty to lobbing eggs at Sir S Bellend. Apparently because of a 20-year grudge. I wonder why.

  11. 19
    Clarence says:

    Guido, you are a tease.

    Glenda Slagg has been blowing Inspector Knacker but you can’t tell us more.

    That’s the long and the short of it, isn’t it? Bastard.

  12. 22
    Neville Thurncoat says:

    Count me in on thw sex-acts !

  13. 24
    Jack Profumo says:

    I like the ‘umour Guido

    But did it make any difference that the KGB paid some British traitors, while blackmailing others through using “hackettes” (as you politely call them) or t a r t s as I would call them…

    A multiplicity of tactics have always existed in the world to “get informartion”

    But for journalists and their defenders (as you seem to be) to justify themselves by the allegedly wrongdoings of others is NO DEFENCE

    Especially since those same hacks and hackers were usually after juicy bits to humiliate the Wags, shags, politicos and other glitterati of this world !! (who may have deserved it BTW but that it another question all together)

    • 28
      Sir Simon Jenkins KGB and Bar says:

      I don’t think an average journalist on a red top rag would know an “ethic” if it fit him in the face…

      Except for our Kelvin who is just tyring to save the Sun probably for a huge sun of money…

      • 29
        News International private investigator (not yet in jail) says:

        “Against the orders of News International”

        ROFL

        Pull the other one, Ruppie…

        • 35
          who why what where when says:

          Let’s not forget that this happened during Labour’s reign, when Blair and his bag carriers were best buddies with Murdoch.

    • 32
      sockpuppet #4 says:

      They do all that stuff to make sure that the press is free to defend democracy. Its practice for when they actually want to find out something important. Like when they found out about Max Moseley.

    • 46
      jgm2 says:

      The trouble is that sources of evidence of wrong-doing amongst our MPs are few and far between. They (the MPs) rely on the fact that those who do have the evidence are not, contractually, allowed to grass ‘em up. Hence civil servants getting their P45s when they release ‘confidential’ information to opposition MPs. If this information is not forthcoming from civil servants and the police then the papers will have fuck all to write. Which is why so many of them took to reporting Labour press releases as ‘news’ and hacking celebs telephones.

      Now the fact that our civil service and police are simply corruption enablers by keeping schtum while all manner of local and national governmental malfeasance and incompetence takes place doesn’t exactly make my heart soar. The fact that the police then reveal themselves equally corrupt by not spilling the beans gratis but for a back-hander makes you realise even more just what a bunch of crooks we have allowed to gain power over us.

      Fucking crooks the lot of ‘em. And they’re seeking to blame the newspapers just as they sought to blame the bankers for the Imbeciles diabolical reign. Don’t look at us politicos with our 5bn quid, uncancellable contracts for aircraft carriers in our local area. Look over there – at the newspapers. They’ve been hacking people’s phones. Sure, we might have started a war in Iraq on nothing more than fabricated evidence but, Goddamit – they’re hacking celeb’s phones!!!

      It’s all a question of priorities. The BBC/political class is just using distraction techniques to divert from the real sleaze.

      • 58
        Jack Profumo says:

        MPs were seriously caught out with their pants down with the expenses scandal

        I agree that the civil service is somewhat muzzled

        But they can always whistelblow to a Privy Counsilloer for example (of they know about such things – it is meant to serve a purpose after all)

        The problem there is that the civil service is third rate now in terms of integrity

        On the police, they really do not “have to” take bribes – call it by its real name

        And the Police seriously compromise justice by selling information expecially in delivcate investigations…flogging confidential police information is unacceptable and they should know it

        Lastly, I agree about your point on the BBC…which is a clear national disgrace…biased…overpaid….hypocritcal and arrogant to boot…

        • 125
          Former Colleague says:

          Our MP has been caught out with his pants down on many occasions – and he just laughs it off. Must have plenty of friends in the Police, the Crown Prosecution Service, the Magistrates – and of course his local newspaper. Do you suppose they are all members of the same Lodge?

          • Former Colleague says:

            That’s the MP for Portsmouth South of course – everybody’s friend Handycock.

          • Parliamentary Standards Commissioner says:

            I investigated the MP for Portsmouth South and after six months, reported back to Parliament that I did not have the powers to investigate him. Boaz

      • 67
        Knob Jockey says:

        The real question is

        Is there anyone in the “elites” in Britain who still has any personal integrity ?

        Or is it just Caligulaland ?

        And dog eats dog and so on…

        • 69
          jgm2 says:

          Is there anyone in the “elites” in Britain who still has any personal integrity ?

          I fear not. The fucking system is rotten to the core. No wonder we have umpty million home-grown wasters just sitting at home claiming their benefits. I do find it very hard to blame them when they look at the example set by their ‘betters’.

  14. 31
    Cheerio Shitney Poostain. says:

    Why is Andrew Marr presenting a series about the Queen?
    Nicholas Witchell is the Royal correspondent.

  15. 34
    albacore says:

    Ah. That’s what they mean by the free press, these days, then.
    Judging by the way Cast Iron and the heavy mob can shut down all reportage of the inconvenient, even when it’s happening in open court, the alternative definition clearly don’t apply any more.

  16. 36
    The Paragnostic says:

    Yes!

    Ali Desai goes down again!

    Only for 3 months this time though – time served and all that. Still, maybe he’ll get Whitemoor or Winchester rather than a holiday camp…

    • 120
      Corrupt and bent as fuck says:

      The corrupt c unt was in line to become Commissionaire as those politically correct arse licking incompetent wankers at the Met promoted him all he fucking way up the greasy pole. Those c unts should be sacked !

  17. 37
    Show me the money says:

    Its about an audit trail.

    Reporter ‘bumps into cop’, they get friendly, cop says things he shouldn’t.

    Reporter ‘bumps into cop’, hands him £500, cop says things he shouldn’t.

    There can’t be a lawyer in the land who would choose to defend the latter over the former.

  18. 40
    codswallop says:

    Dear me. Our Guido got a certain Broadsheet in his sights. Do hope so.

    • 52
      The Paragnostic says:

      What, the Hellograph?

      They would never stoop to sending attractive female reporters to charm a story out of a silly old man, would they?

  19. 42
    Toilets MaGuire, Britain's answer to Baghdad Bob says:

    My God Guido

    You talking about ethis

    I never heard of the word until some copper who I had just paid told me that I was very ethical

    • 47
      A defrocked Blairite Peeresse and Troughteresee for Life says:

      Now now Toilets

      I told you that you were an unethical b u m years ago

      When you were trying to derail Nu Labour with Thuggie Whelan, Balls, Watson Brown and all the others disasters (for Labout and Britain)

  20. 43
    costcutter1 says:

    If you just happen to be a newsp[aper proprieter who is in need of a bit of political cover because you have been caught bribing people too often you MIGHT just offer the most senior coper you can find a nice ittle column on the Times with a suitable stipend to refelc t the value of services rendered

  21. 48
    Dizaei Rascal says:

    Let’s just celebrate the news that Ali Dizaei is on his way back to prison.

  22. 54
    Anonymous says:

    It is a good job BB is not writing on this blog, the picture of that half naked “copper” would send himall of a quiver

  23. 65
    Y fronts himself says:

    I love this man’s body…even better than me…Is he on you tube or the internet ?

    Can you give me an introduction please Guido ?

  24. 72
    Connaisseur says:

    Co-conspirators

    This is all about saving News International

    When you put together the glitterati (and not so glitterati, or self-appointed talentless glitterati- and there are a lot of them ) who have worked or continue to work for NI, including the Times and Sunday Times, you have an incredible lobby now swinging into action …

    They are defending their very incomes…status…etc…if NIU goes down more than half of them will be out of work…an,d what will happen to all upmarket restauirants in the West End, Westminster,Soho etc ??? And all tbhose houses in Islington, Hampstead etc ???

    I dont’ cry for them…

    • 92
      Well it's a thought says:

      It’s nice to watch all these people enjoying the triumph of getting nice little payouts just because someone found out before they told, it’s a delight as the moneymaking will come to an end especially when the proprietorship decide that gossip is costing them more than they get in for reporting it, shooting the golden goose is a silly thing to do , especially when you rely on it for publicity.

    • 119
      Le Monde correspondent says:

      It is also all about the FBI widening its investigation in the US of News Corps including Foreign Corrupt Practices etc which would earn Rubert Murdochn his son or his executives a jail sentence

  25. 75
    Revd. £rd Way B£iar, sanctimonious git and smarmy l*ar says:

    Show me (enough of) the money, and I’ll introduce you to Cherry.

  26. 78
    I don't need no doctor says:

    It’s high time MPs expenses was back in the spotlight.
    What about Tom Watson’s £100,000 claimed for a flat.
    What about McNulty’s expenses.
    Why has it gone so quiet?
    Would Brown and his servant Watso be going after Murdoch if labour had won the last election. Watson make me puke.

    • 84
      Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

      Watson can be the devil himself (and may be) but I don’t care as long as he keeps after the dirty digger.

    • 86
      Trevor from Treherbert says:

      I still haven’t finished with the 2009 accounts.

      I believe there are a few more possible prosecutions in there.

    • 94
      Rat's arse says:

      Spot on ‘Doctor’. I just knew the viscious Leiber b*stards would try to find a way of getting back at the Sun when the Sun withdrew their support for them before the last Election, and what better back stabbing swine than Twatson to do the dirty deed! Hope he gets his soon (why is nobody digging around in his dirty linen?).

    • 101
      Cynical-old-bag says:

      Oooohhhh. Look over there, while we do something far worse over here.

    • 107
      Hannibal from Carthage says:

      Cameron Derbyshire BS and Cheshire BS would make Alice Through the Looking Glass appear a simple exercise of logic.

  27. 81
    Amelia Hill says:

    I’m a good girl :)

  28. 88
    James Hadley Chase says:

    “I gotta know who’s squealin’ on me, Officer Houlihan!”
    The detective looked at Fingers and gave a nod and wink.
    “That’s confidential, Fingers. You know I can’t give you that information, which just happens to be in the manilla folder on my desk. But before we pursue this any further, I gotta go see a man ’bout a dog. When I get back, you, that folder and all its contents had better not have gone anywhere. I can trust you, right, Fingers?”
    It was then that Fingers knew that all that palm-greasing he had done with that dumb mick Houlihan hadn’t gone amiss…

  29. 91

    The only way is ethics…

  30. 93
    Bod can sort it out says:

  31. 98
    The Beast of old Compton St says:

    High time that these constables were forced to do extra shifts lap dancing and share the proceeds with the tax paxyer to pay their way
    They certainly dont solve/prevent crime
    Probably a market for lezzas and hen/stag parties plus the p o oofs

  32. 100
    The Beast of old Compton St says:

    see uniform dating.com

  33. 103
    Adam Werritty says:

    Slipping coppers cash is not simply ‘morally dubious’ it is fuckin illegal.

    If there has been anything like that going on then there will be convictions.

    • 123
      Kered Ybretsae says:

      Or it could well be ‘morally illegal’ and ‘fuckin’ dubious’!

    • 143
      Sniffer says:

      So who’s slipping you cash then, AW? Something to make lying low more comfortable?
      Or are you back attending more unrecorded meetings with government officials?

  34. 116
    PC 49 says:

    “which is less ethical: performing what the tabloid papers call a “sex-act” on a police officer for information…..”

    Gay Times ain’t gettin’ nuffink outa me.

  35. 122
    Kered Ybretsae says:

    Feedback facility with full feedback fulfilment. Information evaluation on the inside track, ongoing evaluation straight from the coppers mouth. A fistfull of tenners gurantees new information developments with an exsisting ICP-Integrated Communication Provider.

  36. 129
    Gordon Brown says:

    Glasgow Rangers followed my fiscal policy and as you can see they’re doing splendidly.

  37. 130
    Ali to get buggered tonight says:

    Champagne all round to celebrate Ali Dizaei going back to the clink, albeit for only 3 months. But at least he can never be a police officer again. Fucking greasy arrogant wideboy. C unt has lived here for years and still talks with a thick (in both senses) iranian accent.

  38. 131
    Phwooar says:

    After seeing this photo, I can only say Rachel Johnson for Prime Minister. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/02/02/article-1353086-0AB30F41000005DC-724_233x423.jpg

  39. 133
    The religion of piss says:

    10 year old deaf girl was trafficked here and abused, raped and tortured for a decade by a muslim couple. Oh and it turns out the couple were also committing benefit fraud. We should respect their right to practice their religion. If raping a 6 year old was good enough for their prophet (piss and shit be upon him) it should be good enough for all muslims.

    But if only we had a government that would do something about the muslim infestation in this country.

  40. 137
    ciconia says:

    Given a choice between media that sometimes breaks the rules for a story and gets hit when caught, and new police state style controls, guess what?
    Things are OK.
    Sure, there are bad cops, and bad journos but when they get as bad as MPs, councillors, and officials, we can all cut our wrists.
    Or buy a gun.

    • 156
      jgm2 says:

      +1.

      On the choice of the two – reporters who pay for information to expose wrongdoing or politicians who arrest opposition MPs to suppress political opposition I know which I prefer. And that’s before we start on politicians suppressing information and hounding the informants to death in order to kick off a totally unnecessary war.

  41. 139
    Ayatollah Ali Khamenei says:

    As a practitioner of the religion of p*ace, I am issuing a fatwa on the following.

    Death to:
    The West
    Freedom
    Democracy
    Entertainment
    Fun
    Happiness
    Women’s rights
    J*ws
    Dr Pepper
    Wagon Wheels
    Red Bull

  42. 141
    I hope he gets his rectum torn to shreds in prison says:

    Dizaei says he’s going to ap*eal the guilty verdict. At taxpayers expense no doubt, the stupid fucking c unt.

  43. 144
    A sad day for Eastenders says:
  44. 145
    Oh dear says:
    • 148
      What will Ed and roland say? says:
    • 154
      jgm2 says:

      Stella might be a Labour politician named after an expensive Belgium dr*i*nk but on this point I agree with her. These pay day loans offering you 70 quid today for a payment of 100 quid next week (Typical APR 20,000%) are taking advantage of the terminally stupid.

      How the fuck can we, after sitting through a decade when any thick c*unt who could fog a mirror, was being offered 110% mortgages on 8 x their made-up salary to build up a ‘property portfolio’ stand for this fucking nonsense? Does nobody remember the ‘no more boom and bust’ economy that particular Imbecility resulted in? It was only three years ago you know. We’re still not over it.

  45. 150
    Nigel Doughty's Ghost says:

    If it was a fit bird sucking my plonker for a few tidbits of information then i’d be all for it.

  46. 153
    Harry S Tottle says:

    One swallow does not a hummer slake.

  47. 157
    Guido's lawyer in Nevis says:

    Of course a third term Libour government will nationalise you Guido

    They will make you a fucking multi millionaire and we will start Guido Fawkes II in Nevis the day after…

    • 159
      Guido's lawyer in Nevis says:

      BTW Guido

      Did you know we are now self sufficient in electricity with the Geothermal project up and running ?!

    • 162
      jgm2 says:

      A third term Labour government would most likely arrest Guido at four o’clock in the morning, tear his house apart, impound all his computers and then come looking for the rest of us for daring to question their latest imbecility.

      Look what they got up to from 1997 to 2010. Abolition of double jeopardy, criminalizing free speech, suspension of Habeas Corpus, abolition of right to silence, arresting opposition MPs in parliament. Charles I got his fucking head chopped off for such insolence – and rightly so and yet that c*unt Jacqui Smith now has a regular gig on the TV and the wicked and malicious c*unt who ordered her is still paid out of the public purse and swanning around the world telling anybody who will listen how fucking great he is. The c*unts were trying to do away with juries too.

      Another three terms of Labour? Fire up the killing fields.

      • 172
        The Paragnostic says:

        That’s the problem in a nutshell – in a representative “democracy” with a sovereign Parliament pissing all our money away and eroding our freedoms, there isn’t an equivalent of Cromwell to stand up to the illiberal statist fuckers.

        About our only hope would be for the Army to defend our freedom, but Rusty’s putting paid to that hope by disbanding them to the extent that the Common Purpose police force could probably give them a good scrap. There could be an independent judiciary, but they’re fatally corrupted by Fabianism and only interested in looking after Muslim terrorists and celebrities privacy, so we’re fucked there as well.

        Fucking depressing, isn’t it?

        • 173
          only saying says:

          Not as depressing as living in Greece.

          • Isn’t it about time ladbrokes paid on Greece being the country to collapse the Euro?

            I had Italy at 10:1. Looked a decent bet in 2008.
            Ireland was only 2:1.
            Greece was 14:1 coz they hid all their debts under the carpet and out in the shed and up the chimney. The little cheats.

            These Club Med countries need to learn how to hide their debts in PFI like proper nations do.

          • Harry S Tottle says:

            You mean hide their debts in the sofa, Bill ?

          • Harry S Tottle says:

            You mean hide their debts in the sofa, Bill ?

      • 182
        albacore says:

        Yup. Ain’t it great to see Dave and the Tory boys
        Without bragging or making the least little noise
        Have restored all the Labour lot took away?
        Oh! They haven’t! Well, dear me and lackaday
        When I were a lad, Labour differed from Tory
        Now any difference is pure fairy story

  48. 174
    Anonymous says:

    WTF is the point of us having a judicial system if European judges can prevent us from deporting illegal foreign terrorists?

  49. 175
    EdButLookBalls says:

    “I don’t have a solution for this, but in the end government has to invest in housing, and there’s not much money around so it’s a massive challenge. At the very least we’ve got to say ‘you can’t have a no housing anywhere policy’, what we have now is the worst of all worlds, basically.” says Miliband.

    Guido asks can anyone work out what is he trying to say?

    The only thing I can add is that it seems that Miliband’s arse does most of the talking!

    • 176
      The Paragnostic says:

      At least he’s not following the Prescott plan of building on floodplains ;-)

      • 179
        m’Lord Prizclot, t’Mouth of t’umber, NooLieBore Illumination, Gourmet, critiquing current events says:

        Oi – you – jumped up little fckr! – I’ll tell you I kno all abart flud plains and fluds an water an stuff coz I was a sailor see – not see sea – sea the diff’frence – coz I woz traind – an all wivour a levels like fking tossrs the ;ot of u – basktards, – an me – a pier, cor tie up to me babe – I’ll show how a fender works! – just push yer delicate bits aginst me an I’ll show yer some manly bits wot can press agin yu – I’m a lord yer know – but I’m bloody hungry – anyone got a sandwich . . . . patsy . . . . pie . . ? anyfing . . ?

    • 189
      Some Geezer wot heard this advice from his father but he still posts on Guido's blog anyway says:

      “I don’t have a solution for this, but…”
      Ed, here’s sage advice:

      To be seen, stand up;
      To be heard, speek up[modbot avoidance ploy];
      To be taken seriously– WISE UP AND SHUT UP!

  50. 178
    Dimwit 'Dave' says:

    I simply LOVE wind farms! Don’t you?

    • 188
      Professor F.Art says:

      How about strapping one of those windmill thingies to Eric Pickles’ arse? One blast is worth a good few kilowatts, I tell you.

  51. 184
    Amelia Hill says:

    I can suck an Elephants balls dry, I’m a good girl.

    • 187
      an elephant says:

      can’t quite see the relevance to anything, but hey! – if you’ve got the will, I’ve got the time.

      You’ll get a mouthful! – you’ll need a gob at least as big as Cherry’s!

  52. 191
    Nick says:

    The police pay informants don’t they?

    Should they arrest themselves?

    • 199
      A fast-fading fairy says:

      Koko: ‘A man cannot cut off his own head.’
      Pooh-Bah: ‘A man might try.’

  53. 194
    pigs in space says:

    As Rangers are about to go into administration, there had to be a McDoom connection, and here it is

    http://blogs.wsj.com/iainmartin/2009/10/26/gordon-brown-owns-glasgow-rangers/

  54. 196
    Revolting says:

    Truly disgusting. He’s never going to lose the weight. Instead of wasting all that money on providing carers, just let him die. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100052/Worlds-fattest-man-Keith-Martin-lives-London-58-stone.html

    • 201
      Tachybaptus says:

      Trying to imagine the coffin, and failing.

    • 202
      The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

      Er… just a thought. Why don’t his ‘carers’ (i.e. the people who are supposed to be caring for him) stop bringing him so much food. If he cannot get out of bed he cannot get extra food. All the carers need to do is to bring him the minimum every day and the pounds will fall off, won’t they? Or have they had a logic bypass??

      • 218
        smoggie says:

        He’s given up sugar in his coffee, that should help.

      • 219
        sockpuppet #4 says:

        If you bother reading further (admittedly sod all point as its just an advert for a channel 5 prog), he’s on some sort of diet now.

    • 204
      not a machine says:

      perhaps hes just over anxious about food price inflation , and sees it as canny savings plan :)

    • 205
      pigs in space says:

      If the public sector were a person, that’s what it’d look like

  55. 203
    not a machine says:

    So it shuffles on a little further , greece agrees to Euro and bailout , by a larger margin than I thought , a few resignations , some socialists get angry and want debt to be written off , already considering elections that may overturn , austerity package and hardly started on proper tax system .

    my favourite quote from greek mp this week “we have lots of islands with no one on them , we could rent them out on a long lease and put windturbines on them ” , rep “are you considering selling the acroppolis ?” , greek MP “No No that would be stupid ”

    Stock markets managed a near 1% point rise , however we got a ratings negative watch as consolation , Merlin target miss wasnt much ,what 5% … and Lab shad treasury go into overdrive , being unable to even say if greece should pull out of euro or not ….. Biggest thing to affect UK is euro and labour have nothing to say ………

    Does seem a bit heavy handed with the sun journos ,

  56. 220
    Anonymous says:

    Can you imagine the dumps?


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