Daybreaking: Miliband’s Sceptic Positioning
Back in October Guido wrote:
“Though we all know that Red Ed is grubby statist at heart and painfully pro-European, he is also a shameless opportunist. If he really wanted to make an impact with ordinary, hard-working, sensible voters he should back the calls for the referendum. It would distance himself from lies of Brown and Blair over the issue and the betrayal of “cast iron” Cameron. “
Though he missed that boat, it seems Ed is up to something this morning. With Cameron retreating from Europe last night, failing to return with anything particularly substantial and giving up on his EU institution fight, this morning Ed fearlessly entered that den of interrogation know as the Daybreak studios to retaliate. And he caught Guido off guard:
“I’m very concerned about what David Cameron has done…He’s sold us down the river.”
Dave is in the Commons at 3.30. Let the Purple Alliance begin…
UPDATE:
Team Miliband deny Ed M playing the sceptic cards by accusing Cameron of selling UK down the river over EU summit deal.—
norman smith (@BBCNormanS) January 31, 2012
Only a few weeks ago he said Britain was no longer in the room, now he’s saying Britain has been sold down the river.
This is a man who likes it both ways!
Any one got his phone number – I may be able to help him.
I didn’t Know that Spunk has an effect on the vocal cords and makes them resonate at a higher Pitch.
Thpunk ith a thtrange thubtanthe, it maketh me thp*eak with a lithp.
For a happy second there I thought it said “Time for Ed to EAT Lead”
I noticed that last week and yesterday his voice was differnet. It seems that he might be having voice coaching to make him less nasal and whiney. Perhaps Guido should do some fishing.
Now where will he get a brain coach?
Politicians a FLIP FLOPPING, as they dont know what they are going to say until they learn their lines from the STATE apparatus. Cameroon ” largest peace time deficit” May ” greatest Peace time deficit”. Stretching the Truth a tad. Shame for those military who have the unfortune to be blown up or die in the NONE WAR we are having in Afghanistan or the memory of the Troops who have died in IRAQ These Non War Deficits are an interesting Lie being peddled by the Actors of Parliament.
Thanks for wiping off a £billion from bank shares yesterday Dedward Miliband. It seems Labour just can’t stop wasting money and destroying value. Dedward Miliband, “delivering blandness & mediocrity in tough times.”
He is the most untrustworthy man in British politics. Now he wants to interfere in every boardroom in the UK. He is an ardent Pro EU federalist as well. If we we ever unfortunate enough to have him as Prime Minister, he would want to interfere in every boardroom across the EU!
Even if he did call for a referendum on the EU, he would never ever grant us one if he ever got into power.
He just opposes anything anyone else agrees with.
It’s the Yellow peril that is the problem. They got the hump last time, so now it’s payback for them resulting in another damp squib
It’s called communism.
The angle of the pohtograph of ed commiebandwagon at the top is also very communist.
Nice subtle comment that Guido.
Ed should follow my example. My rehabilitation continues, I am being quoted in the political media to my great advantage’
http://themorningbabel.wordpress.com/2012/01/30/theresa-mays-brilliant-hate-campaign-strategy/#more-855
I will soon be a contender for leader of the LibDems with all this favourable press exposure. Boaz.
He is a C–t the same C-nts that Didn’t really Privatise the Nationalized industries and only added Share holders and DEBT to the Quasi Private Communist State.
Well done everything is Broken now.
Pinko lefties must stop booing;
Comrade Ed knows what he’s doing.
He saved the world with Gordon Brown
But Blairites want to let him down.
DUEMA menbers, firm and proud
Must stand tall and shout aloud
With Grauniad and BBC
‘It’s Milliband for you and me!’
Chameleon Ed.
“It’s True It’s True”
I’m surprised Guido hasnt a clip of Guy Verhofstadt on BBC News yesterday, where he threw in the tasty little morsel that the current British team is the most pro-EU that he’s ever had to negotiate with.
Shyster
I don’t care if he doesn’t mean it and is just being opportunist – he needs to hold Dave to account and get Parliament to tell Dave to stand up for UK
That’s going to be a tad difficult as all three parties policy is to sell the country down the crapper.
Of course they all know this, but for public consumption they all deny it and take turns grandstanding each other on who are the biggest traitors.
Yes, but to the US, not Europe.
Forgive me, I just hurt my ribs laughing at the notion that the political classes can be held to account by their own kind. Where have you been for the last few decades? If we cannot nail a Prime Minister who lead us into war on the basis of lies, Cameron’s feeble efforts are not going to register on the radar.
I am glad Milliwit has grasped the notion of being sold down the river -perhaps he will explain his worries over 13 years of a Labour administration which sold most of us down a waterway or two.
He is a season ticket holder at Hypocrisy FC. a team who are always winning yet have been relegated.
Just posturing, he’s not upset at the action, just that we can’t now wring any concessions for eventually agreeing. He has a point.
How many times has it got to be said before thicko’s realise it is impossible to wring any concessions from the Brussels mafia once you cede control to them.
All 27 states have to agree or you get back zilch, nada, nothing.
The notion that anyone can pop over to Brussels and say “hi, you know that employment law thingy, can we change it?” and not get either laughed out of the room or blackmailed into further concessions, is frankly, juvenile delusion.
Ed Milliband’s concern is that David Cameron waited too long before elling us down the river and got a better price for it. There’s a time and place to seel things and Ed Milliband is firmly in the camp of Gordon Brown when it comes to this…
I wonder though. We could stop the 26 nations using the EU institutions at the drop of a hat if we need to protect our interests.
I doubt Dave would though.
As for a referendum, LabConLib daren’t. They’d lose the vote and have to do what the electorate want, and pull out of the EU.
Or just ignore the result, say the voters didn’t understand the complexities of the issue and hold another referendum to get the “right” answer.
It could have been worse he could have said ” he has sold us up the river”
Wed Ted knows to go with the flow – when he can find it.
You get a much better price up river !
Hello Guido
Thanks for the support
I am against Europe and for Europe, as you know
Just as I against the cuts and for the cuts in Government spending
And against the predators but for all my neighbours in Primrose Hill and Hampstead
Where am I Guido then ?
A little less of the white stuff might make you a little more coherent Ed
I would sack Baldwin to start with
Labour, the new Eurosceptics??!! Is this Groundhog day?
Heath 2.
Cameron is the worst Conservative PM in history. Official.
Blue Labour out.
Vote UKIP.
As Labour’s record on Europe since the 1960s has been anti-, pro-, anti-, pro-… it shouldn’t be too difficult for Miliband to face two ways at once.
He’s a disgrace. Shadow Ministers are openly plotting and scheming, showing poor judgement and taking union cash/bribes. Ridiculous oaf. No leadership.
Show me one plan where he would implement any cuts and savings. He can no longer use the “tax the bankers’ bonuses” ruse. Deficit cutting – he’s having a laugh.
Making it too easy for a Cooper-Balls/Balls duopoly to take over in a coup.
We are talking about the Tory back bench meeting last night right
Does this mean that the DUEMA is not in crisis any more?
Rusty Dave sure has a very strange method of proving his Euro-sceptic credentials.
It as if he is a complete and utter, two faced, duplicitous lying bastard.
I voted for him with deep reservations – there was a good UKIP candidate on the ticket.
I will not make the same dire mistake again – nor will many other Conservatives. This really is the last straw for me.
Thankth
Cameron, Clegg, Miliband, there’s nothing between them, a little posturing here, the odd sound bite there, they are all statist, federalist, fabian yes men.
Even if Miliband survives to the next GE, how could he be any worse? After all, the people giving the errand boys their orders, will remain unchanged.
And Me bring on Nigel Farrrrrrrrrrrrrrge
Some bedtime reading for adolescent Ed
http://www.indepthinfo.com/communist-manifesto/analysis.shtml
Sorry, this is from the man who propped up Brown who sneaked into the European meeting late to sign a treaty on his own? The man who shamelessly shafted his brother? Who held talks with the Lib Dems after the election when the public had told Labour in no uncertain terms to get lost and said the talks were ‘going well’, who then put practiaclly all of the Labour ex Governement who we told to get lost in his Shadow Cabinet – who constantly sells the tax payer down the river with the Unions? Is he going to tell the Underground workers to give up their bonuses?
Sorry, my mistake, he is an inspirational, trustworthy forward thinking guy who would be excellent on the world stage – I watched the PM answer questions last night and thought how much better the quick, articulate, fun Miliband would be. #DUEMA
Labour have zig-zagged on Europe since the very star-”the Durham miners wouldn’t like it” was the Attlee Govt’s response to the original coal and steel treaty 6 decades ago.
The Tories have zig-zagged generally in contramotion to Labour about it. Politics is a rough old trade and Cameron can’t complain.
Serves Dave right if Ed makes hay with this, the prevaricating cuпt.
Which one?
Jesus wept, you’re obsessed. Fancy him?
the “D” in Lead Should be replaced with “VE”
What an obnoxious little twat he is turning out to be
He’s like a wasp that won’t take the hint !
I’m thinking of changing the three lions of England symbol to the three pussies.
+++++Laugh+++++
If you are referring to dave, cleggie and militwit. I absolutely agree. I think it has been decades since we have had such poor political leaders.
Farage for PM
Farage is the lipstick on the UKIP pig. Bunch of tin foil hat nutters in the main.
Correct, those UKIP tin foil hat nutters believe in all manner of crazy shit, such as the freedom to make laws that suit our needs best, the right to trade freely with anyone we like, democratic accountability, the right to control our borders who can come and stay and who can’t, the right to govern ourselves and all manner of similar lunatic ideas.
They should be banned.
Oh, look. A sock puppet in action!
“I think blah blah UKIP blah blah!”
“Oooh, I do agree with you. I, oops, sorry, I mean you are so wise and all knowing, oh great one! I’d love to have sex with you!“*
*He does, reader, all by himself.
1 out of 10 for turning up.
don’t all the uk parties think that we should trade freely with anyone we like?
Sorry- but UKIP don’t have many strong candidates. I wouldnt really accuse them of “tin foil hat”ism. Even if you agree with everything they say, it would be to your own benefit to recognise their weeknesses.
Lazy trolling from the swooning Cameroons. You are not even trying anymore.
HM Disloyal Opposition are all over the R4 and R5Liebour like a rash. Blunkett played a blinder on Toady today ref Horse Hair and Catgut qualifications. The dozy fool issued a challenge that their were no such qualifications for 14-16 year old; the listeners put him straight!!
FFS!!!
” blinder”!!
I see what you mean.
He clearly hasn’t just been through the path we poor souls have to go when the kids are choosing their courses for 14-16 , which we have just done this last couple of weeks.
Fancy a course in fish farming, or nail technology? I confess I was nearly apoplectic when I left the school after the Course Choices Evening with YoungNell. Needless to say I made it quite clear that she wasn’t going near any course that wasn’t a standard academic GCSE. (Sadly I have to admit that even there the academic GCSE’s are not as rigorous as they were 15 years or so ago) No rubbish NVQ’s in hair extensions and No worthless BTEC’s in retail.
Gove has done the right thing to say that he is abolishing 3105 vocational courses for 14-16 year olds that claim to be GCSE equivalents and boosting the quality of teaching and exams for the remaining 70 subjects. Thank the Lord for common sense!!!
Amen!
Yes. Toady got themselves all lathered up for their daily attack on the Tories and fell flat on their faces. Fail.
OMG!
cameron has ‘sold us down the river’
He surely has and I never ever thought I would agree with militwit but I do.
You’ve been drugged. Did you open your door to a labour activist?
Anyone know what was the conversation in last night’s back-benchers meeting?
Nothing much to report !
We just had a game of darts !
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83451b31c69e20120a677bb52970b-800wi
Mostly they talked about how they know best and how everyone agrees with them and how Bill Cash, Bernard Jenkin, Douglas Carswell would be much more popular PMs than Dave – then usual self-delusional garbage.
they’ll write a few tough blogs
They’ll be asked to appear on various TV and radio programmes to denounce Dave which they’ll be more than happy to do.
If Miliband was posturing next to a septic tank, he would fall in.
Actually I thought it said ‘septic poisoning’ until I read it again.
If Miliband was poisoning a septic tank, he would fall in.
there – fixed.
As opposed to certain previous PM’s who have been in the tank for the Septics all along.
If Miliband was pissing into a septic tank, he would fall in.
It’s looking like Ed and Dave have got a private bet on who can do the most u-turns.
After all that hysterical effort over the last week from the BBC, Ed and Chucky, the Tories are two percent ahead in the YouGov poll and Dave’s popularity has increased while Ed’s has shrunk.
Do any of these Labour guys read this blog? Wonder what they think when they read so many many many many posts which describe Miliband as a shallow hypocritcal aspiration-killing Socialist w*nker who merely panders to populist rage. Just wondering….
Good arse-kicking going on over at the Guarniad by the way, with Polly Toynbee coming up with a classic piece of shiiite article denouncing the unfairness of bonuses, Hester, RBS, and all of that.
I seriously hope these guys all stick around for awhile cos then the Tories will easily win the next election. The last thing we want is for these Labour twits to cotton onto the fact that, unless they move away from their Michael Foot tendencies and move back towards the centre, they will NEVER get back into power.
If Labour ever managed to move back to the centre, they could easily outflank the left wing coalition.
I know I suffer from the lack of a couple of good O Levels but I really cannot for the life of me understand where you English are coming from or indeed are going to.
That Cameron bloke said last night on the Telly that he had vetoed a treaty ‘which does not exist’.
Is he a member of the fucking Magic Circle or something?
Even this morning that creepy looking fucker Michael Grove told that there Select Committee that ‘he does not have a magic wand’. What a twat!
really you English are so so strange: you do not seem to know whether you are coming or going.
it is all very confusing for a simple girl like me.
no wonder Nicholas Sarkozy always looks angry.
You are not Jane Birkin. You are a fake and really Mrs.Ed Miliband.
Triple A, triple A, triple A.
Go away, go away, go away.
I haven’t even got my O Levels let alone my A Levels you daft twat.
You really should see a Doctor.
it’s free in England but here in France you pay 30€.
Cuts waiting lists!
Gotcha.
Of course, Jane Birkin wouldn’t really say “you english” because she’s france’s most prominent professional-english person.
And I don’t think she, or anyone else for that matter, would give a shit about the minute detail you appeuar to care about.
Must have missed off part of her name. Meant to say I am Jane, a birk from Paris. (No love, the tower you see? It’s Blackpool Tower…)
Taxpayers lose £900million as RBS and Lloyds share prices fall over bonus backlash fears
All thanks to the tax dodger Ed Miliband.
Usual Liebour slimy tricks no thought in the damage they can achieve to the country , while they are attacking the crap goverment we have in.
We don’t have a “crap government”, we have an “utterly crap government”.
With a “thoroughly utterly crap government-in-waiting” jumping up and down waiting to take over.
The many HEADS of Ed Miliband.
Another day, another Mili-Dowler-bandwagon.
How true. Is that the Mornington Crescent in Leytonstone?
Depends if you’re using Tudor Court Rules.
Now I understand your strategy.
Dear Ed
As a loyal Conservative who hates what Sham Cam is doing over Europe, and who also thinks you are the biggest turd in the House Of Commons. May I just say that if you get your act together on a referendum then YOU HAVE MY VOTE !
P.S. Your still a K. Unt
+1…..I will vote for the poor excuse for a human being too..
I say chaps you all seem to have got very confused over Stephen Hester’s bonuses.
You forget that Stephen is doing a first rate job for all of us. he is contractually entitled to a bonus because he has made a mega profit in the last year even though you have not got any dividends.
I know the share price is very disappointing and you have lost 50% of your stake. What you have to appreciate is that share prices go both up and down.
I say two words to you—-stop and loss.
when you buy a share you should always have a lowest price at which you sell the share should it fall to keep any loss within a manageable proportion.
Your Prime Minister is the son of a stockbroker so I am sure he is aware of this. why not phone him up and ask him to explain the strategy he has to protect what remains of your investment.
if you do this I am sure you will be reassured.
I’m going to set up a new party – UK Hypocrisy.
The only guarantees we’ll make are:
We won’t be able to guarantee anything.
All policies will be handled with maximum hypocrisy, at all times.
With us, citizens of the UK will know exactly where they stand – they will be lied to ,cheated, extorted and held to ransom at any given opportunity.
Better the devil than the deep purple sea?
The best bet for escaping the EU is if the Scots vote for independence.Scotland will have to apply to join the cartel of 27 soon to be 29,with no guarantee of acceptance.So the Scots will be totally free to ditch all previous laws imposed by the United Kingdom and Europe.
“with no guarantee of acceptance”
You’ve got oil? You’re in. And you’re ours.
Nah. Its when Francois Holland tells the Germans they have to accept high inflation and throwing money round to everyone else.
“Francois Holland tells the Germans”
Thank’s for the laugh, that would be telling the Germans the same way Petain bossed Adolph around?
I know its a joke. thats why I relayed it to you. I didn’t make the joke up myself.
The EUroprats would allow Scotland to join on “Conditions spéciales pour rendre la colère anglaise”
Ed is about as ‘left’ wing as the Guardian – wishy washy liberal who makes his living from the status quo.
Miliband in tragic PR blunder: “I wanted to come over all sceptic, instead I am all septic!” he wailed.
Ed can change to whatever wing he thinks will gain him the most approval. He changes his wing from day to day wafted along by the latest wheeze from his spin team..
Dear Guido,
May I register my regret that today is the anniversary of your execution in 1606. I do hope that it wasn’t too painful. May all the gods be praised that there is indeed a life after death, and that you are once again able to torment the rogues and scoundrels in Parliament and beyond.
I say, arse licking par extraordinaire!
But his mission to destroy the Union is still going swimmingly.
Hang on, how can he be selling the UK down the river if Dave didnt sign the treaty?
The c’unt may not have signed it yet.
The new ‘Treaty’ is to be incorporated into existing treaties as soon as practicable.
So, no veto, just a little hold-up.
Last night that Cameroon fella called Sarkozy a wanker for even thinking about introducing a tiny tiny Tobin Tax ( whatever the fuck that is) which would have raised a measly one million euros a year.
according to Mr Brainbox all Sarkozy will achieve is a mass migration of business to a lower taxed financial market. he then started bragging about how he himself had introduced a Bank Tax in London which was bringing to the UK Government 2.5 billion pounds a year.
Well I have been doing a bit of cogitating this morning. If I was a UK Bank I would move to France and save myself 2.5 billion knickers.
I suppose if I was a Bank Manager in England I could be persuaded to stay if I was paid a massive massive salary.
But there again what do I know?
I don’t know what I am talking about.
Relocate to France ??
You can always depend on the French.
They are always there – when they need you.
I see. so you are saying there that a big banking concern would pay zero tax.
Presumably counting zero income tax and national insurance.
I bet the real jane birkin knows what a big tax bill looks like. Old whingy britches (whatsisname. A cross between Morrisey and oliver reed) would have shown you his often enough.
I am a beast in bed.
Every dog has its day
Europe will sort itself out longterm.
The remains of the bankrupt UK will form a close alliance with Tristan da Cunha, St.Helena, and Rockall and the rest of the piddly little islands that the world ignores. Empire all over again, lots of flags and ornate uniforms and medals.
The Eurosceptics haven’t the imagination to see that our longterm interests are with Europe and thar we ought to be taking a full part in influencing its development.
F uck off Clegg
Why? evidence? what happened to the common market? oh yes it morphed into the eu and look how that has stuffed us up the arse
The UKs relationship Europe needs to be seen in terms of 50 to 100 years and longer. The overall balance of world powers is far more important than faffing around worrying about “working time directives” or other trivia emanating from Brssels over the short term. If the UK doesn’t commit properly to being part of and inflencing Europe then the Fourth Reich will take full control of it.
19th century — Britain at it’s peak. USA coming up
20th century — Britain bankrupts itself with WW1, and the conseqential WW2
Britain in long term decline. USA at peak of power. Germany recovers.
21st centry — USA static. BRICs ascendant. Europe initially in a mess, but sorted by Germany. Britain continues to fade into insignificance outside Europe.
Miliband minor is increasingly revealing himself as the opportunist he is. Each time he surfaces in his “submarine” acts he usually attacks something that he supported when in government!
Why is Norma Smith propagandising for Red Ed? Oh I know he’s BBC.
We live in a modern representative democracy where we elect politicians to represent our views in Parliament. Then again, we don’t. According to the BBC’s print arm “The Guardian”…
Conservative rebels pushing for an in-or-out referendum on Europe are riding the tide of public opinion, according to a Guardian/ICM poll. Some 70% of voters want a vote on Britain’s EU membership, and by a substantial nine-point margin respondents say they would vote for UK withdrawal. Forty-nine per cent would vote to get Britain out of Europe, against just 40% who prefer to stay in. There is a clear majority for staging a referendum in all social classes and regions of the UK. Men and women are similarly keen, although rather more Conservative (71%) than Labour voters (65%) are calling for a poll.
So even the EU-loving left wing Guardian suggests that the OVERWHELMING number of British people want a referendum on the EU and most would vote for withdrawal.
Contrast that with what happened in The Commons recently when the overwhelming majority of MP’s voted against the consideration of such a referendum. 111 out of 600+ showed the patriotic zeal voters expect and supported the idea of holding a referendum but 483 said NO to the idea of letting the people speak. They much prefer to have us mute.
Let’s face it – we live in a benign tyranny and when it comes to our never ending subjugation in the rancid EU, we will not be allowed to speak via our elected politicians. What options does that leave? Cameron has shown himself to be toothless on this, just one more Europhile dressed in Eurosceptics clothing
Lord Mandelson, the former Labour minister, has avoided having to disclose a list of his business clients under new rules intended to improve transparency in the House of Lords.
Peers are now under an obligation to publish the precise source of their pay if they are directors of public or private companies, as part of a new drive to tighten up disclosure of business interests.
Lord Mandelson was expected to publish a list of his clients at his advisory firm, Global Counsel, which was previously registered as a “Category 1” directorship of a public or private company.
However, he has re-labelled his business interest as “remunerated employment”, meaning he no longer has to provide this detailed information.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9051332/Lord-Mandelson-finds-a-way-round-new-Lords-disclosure-rules.html