On the Road to Scotland
Whilst Guido was unable to persuade Neo-Guido of the merits of hanging child-killers, he has been converted to the cause of Scottish Freedom. A former Chairman of Edinburgh University’s Conservative and Unionist Association, he has come a long way from when he was the blog’s undergraduate summer intern in 2008. He has written about his conversion from devout unionist to freedom-fighting nationalist guerilla here:
“The brain drain that saw enlightened Scots give America its magnificent constitution has never stopped. What remains is a nation dependent on the state; a hand out culture and a something for nothing utopia. An insult to its past. And this will never change while Scotland remains the junior partner in a relationship it never asked to be in.”
Now, about the monarchy…
Scottish Land can fuck right off! And take there share of the debt from banks!
When do the English get a say in all this?
And you do have to laugh at the notion of independence, merely to become an even less important satellite of the EU.
Send the buggers back
C’MON DAVE – ASK ENGLAND THE QUESTION
WE’LL GIVE’EM THEIR FREEDOM
Stipulate that they have to be able to toss off Gordon Brown more than 30′ before they can reclaim him as their finance wizard.
Yes please – Home Rule For England!
Are we training Scottish troops so if Alex Braveheart Salmond wants to wage WAR on England they will have the best trained guys, Will we give them the guns and tanks that are built in the UK? Just wondered as that type of thing is not going well in Afghanistan. Shit training future terrorists !!!! You could’nt make it up.
C’MON DAVE – ASK ENGLAND THE QUESTION
WE’LL GIVE’EM THEIR FREEDOM
especially as fracking in Kent and Sussex will deliver Natural Gas self sufficiency for England
I like Scotland and the Scottish, but full independence for the tax-hoarding shortbread-munchers now please. Take your Labour safe seats with you.
Sussex?
We’re rich!!!!
Cheap energy, productive farmland, beautiful countryside, sparse population, Gatwick airport, our own coastline for trade and fishing, excellent schools.
Independence for Sussex!
And just off Blackpool too Mr JGM2. Seriously – the earthquake evidence has kind of come down on it certainly being a bit of a factor but below Blackpool and North Wales it’s quite sparsley populated thus reducing compo claims. Good thing to keep your eye on
The US Government has confirmed a fracking link with a 5.6 earthquake in Oklahoma on Guy Fawkes night last year that was felt all the way to Chicago.
See http://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/U.S.-Government-Confirms-Link-Between-Earthquakes-and-Hydraulic-Fracturing.html
This will not stop fracking, no matter how unsafe to water and tremors as cheap energy is the corner stone of economic activity.
Sussex may not be such a great place to live after this
5.6? Pah! Make the street lamps wobble a bit.
5.0–5.9 Moderate Can cause major damage to poorly constructed buildings over small regions. At most slight damage to well-designed buildings.
We’re gonna be rich!!!!!!
You missed out the gas and oil field supposedly 60,000 barrels a day in the Irish sea, off Blackpool and Liverpool plus all the windmills as well.
You mean this area
http://www.shipais.com/currentmap.php?map=livbay
Bit of gas and a bit of oil and a bit of windpower.
What about fracking within the bounds of the M25 then London could be totally independant
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The french are friendly to the Scots.
Relocate the tunnel! Ha.
I’d quite like the Scots to go, if only to deny Labour any more chance of ruining England.
However, I suspect they’ll go for DevoMax, and get an even more cushioned and privileged arrangement than they have now.
So I’ll still have an income then?
Yes, you and I will continue to suck England dry till the day we die !!
As the planet’s leading professional Jock, I wholeheartedly endorse Salmond’s leap for independence.
If only I could be home in the freezing cold, surrounded by inebriated countrymen instead of in this miserable Bahamian tax haven.
Och!
I share your pain Sean.
But you won’t get the knighthood you don’t deserve Sean!
Too late for anyone to see this but isn’t connolly rather anti-SNP – probably based on his non-scottish ancestry, which he’s likely to have been reminded about time and time and time again as a youth.
QUOTE:
In a 1999 interview with The Sunday Herald Connolly condemned the SNP as “racist” and the new Scottish parliament as a “joke”
Man blows up crowded jetplane over Scottish soil. Man arrested tried and imprisoned Scotch Government then release man and send him home. There will be great Trouble I tell you when that Scotch government is resposible for everything Scotch. Once we pull our forces out and no longer give them ship building contracts all they will have left is the dstilleries. The will obviously raise some dosh from oil taxation but the contracts have already been signed with the major producers so they effectively have litte or no control in it’s production and distribution.
Thick Twats.
Don’t forget shortbread production, tartan ties, salmon farms and butterscotch.
And Guinness.
lol…Just checking you are joking right ?…………
and scotch tape
And sheep shagging in the highlands.
Are there any teenage sheep up there?
I think you mean Gillespie’s!
Don’t forget scotch mist
and hop scotch
scotch eggs?
I’m done for
Scotch on the Rocks?
Do you mean Costa Caledonia?
Anyone for a deep-fried Mars Bar?
Orkney and Shetland are nearer to Norway than Edinburgh, and are just about as remote from Edinburgh politics as they are from London.
What happens if they don’t want to be part of this new, modern, bankrupt, Scotland? No oil then, folks.
Mind you, it is all nonsense. This is all about Alex ranting for 2 years about not getting what he wants from London before he loses the independence vote and the issue goes into a cupboard for another 40 years.
Even if Salmond loses the referendum, maybe the rest of Britain might have finally seen the benefit in letting Scotland go, and give them independence whether they like it or not.
No.
The majority of Scots don’t hate the English. Otherwise they wouldn’t be living in England.
Its just a noisy minority that get more coverage than they deserve, and we shouldn’t judge all the Scots on that basis.
A lot of people voted for the SNP just because they hated Labour, not because they actually want independence.
So? It doesn’t mean the people of England can’t vote for independence from Scotchland?
I didn’t mean that England couldn’t, just that it wasn’t really necessary.
It might be a socialist hell hole in some parts, but it would be a shame to lose all of it.
There are parts of London that would be voted out of the UK if it came to that…
Name them! I might support that referendum too.
He’s chosen 2014 for a reason. It’s the 700 year anniversary of Bannockburn. They’ll spend the entire year celebrating how fucking great they are and have a vote on St Andrew’s day. To ‘reaffirm’ their independence you see.
It’ll be an 11 month brain-washing session. The fuckers will vote for independence.
Tee hee.
Good riddance, then we can rebuild Hadrians wall with minefields, guard towers and machine guns.By the time we get the wall to 200ft high the construction industry will be booming.
I think he should do it on St.George’s day.
That would really stir up the natives!
Don’t forget the Old Pretender’s 1714 rebellion, add on Bannockburn 1314, and you can be sure that a whole spring and summer will be devoted to the highlights of Scots Nationalism in 2014 and that today is Burns Night.
Salmond thinks so highly of Scotland that he wants teenagers 16-17 year olds to vote on independence, putting the franchise on a par with Cuba and North Korea.
No European state gives under 18s the vote, and you would be hard pressed to find any states in the Americas, the Commonwealth unwise to do what that walking heart attack heid case proposes. The Scot Nats might wonder why virtually every democracy limits voting ages to 18. There is a good reason for it, but that Hunt Salmond is too mendacious to own up that he knows it.
As for the legality of the vote and the wording of the question,
Alex only has a majority of one or two. I’d be very worried if I was an S&P MSP in a marginal constituency right now. After what happened to John Smith and Robin Cook.
A few by-elections going against Alex could really fuck up his plans.
Just saying.
Anyone fancy smoked Salmond?
Indeed. When Spiteful Alex does his sums he invariably takes the number of barrels of oil per day (say 2 million) and multiplies it by the spot price of oil (say 100USD) and declares that Scotland is subbing England 200 million USD a day so anything less than that in extra handouts is taking money off Fucking Scotland.
Thing is – he forgets that not all that 100USD is profit. It doesn’t magically app*ear in big tins at Grangemouth.
The worst part is that Fucking Scotland does receive 200 million USD in handouts every fucking day. Which they then use to fund ‘free’ university places, ‘free’ prescriptions, ‘free’ elderly care etc etc and sneer at the English for not ‘managing their budget’ so they can provide the same. Might it not be the extra 1200 quid per head Danegeld that allows such largesse? It is – but the fuckers dress it up as them simply having different priorities rather than an extra 1200 quid per head to throw around.
They are going to get such a fucking hard landing when they have to dig into their own pockets for all the ‘free’ this and ‘free’ that they currently enjoy at English taxpayers expense.
It will be fucking hilarious.
Actually, i think we`ll stick around after all, if for no other reason than to wind you up even more.
Great. Let’s do it without the Barnett formula, eh?
Rog youdont evenknow what the Barnet formula is you stupid c unt, come on then tell us !
The Barnett formula is a formula whereby people with no ambition to better their lives and choose to stay in Scotland instead get paid an extra 1200 quid a year in government handouts.
Next question.
Can “Rog” not speak for himself you interfering old prick ?
Indeed. When Spiteful Alex does his sums he invariably takes the number of ba*rr*els of oil per day (say 2 million) and multiplies it by the spot price of oil (say 100USD) and declares that Scotland is subbing England 200 million USD a day so anything less than that in extra handouts is taking money off Fucking Scotland.
Thing is – he forgets that not all that 100USD is profit. It doesn’t magically app*ear in big tins at Grangemouth.
The worst part is that Fucking Scotland does receive 200 million USD in handouts every fucking day. Which they then use to fund ‘free’ university places, ‘free’ prescriptions, ‘free’ elderly care etc etc and then sneer at the English for not ‘managing their budget’ so they can provide the same. Might it not be the extra 1200 quid per head Danegeld that allows such largesse? It is – but the fuckers dress it up as them simply having different priorities rather than an extra 1200 quid per head to throw around.
They are going to get such a fucking hard landing when they have to dig into their own pockets for all the ‘free’ this and ‘free’ that they currently enjoy at English taxpayers expense.
It will be fucking hilarious.
You already said that, did`nt you?
My Scottish O-Grade in English suggests you mean “their” not “there”…
Post Darien Scheme Scotchland didn’t ask it BEGGED.
“It’s SHITE being Scottish! We’re the lowest of the low. The scum of the fucking Earth! The most wretched, miserable, servile, pathetic trash that was ever shat into civilization. Some people hate the English. I don’t. They’re just wankers. We, on the other hand, are COLONIZED by wankers. Can’t even find a decent culture to be colonized BY. We’re ruled by effete assholes.
Mark Renton-Trainspotting
Problem: Renton is an Edinburgh character in a book about Edinburgh written by an Edinburgh author.
Edinburgh isn’t part of Scotland. It’s a city of 400,000 English pricks.
It’s a city of 400,000 English pricks.
That’s what the Scots really think of the English.
Right…
The sort of “Mrs Thatcher (PBUH) wasnt a real woman” approach taken by the lefty wymims lib movement.
OK, so Edinburgh is English. By that argument, so is half of Aberdeen (the other half is Texan), and so is most of the Highlands and most of the Borders.
So, that leaves Glasgow, Cumbernauld, and Fife.
Good luck with that.
English prick = tautology
Guido your papist plot to divide and end the Union is coming along nicely.
Of course independence will stop the brain drain from Scotland; just like it did for the Republic of Ireland (Oh dear!)
send the buggers back
Can I play at being a nurse today?
frankly I am not looking forward to an independent scotland once its realized that no-one is going to replace the UK’s funding of the state’s teat.
I expect 50% tax rates for everyone in a job and a huge hike in the council tax for those who own a house. The public sector and benefits brigade are obviously far more important to both the snp and labour as both look to them for support.
being a taxpayer just means they know where you live and how much you earn.
The jocks have been rendered useless welfare junkies by decades of welfarism.
Compete against England? Laughable. Turn the country into a socialist / green powerhouse? The stuff of fantasists.
Salmond even deludes himself that he can create a 100% carbon free energy grid and anyone in Scotland could afford to pay for the “power” it would theoretically generate.
That said let them go their own way if they want it, just don’t let them back when the EU start demanding permanent austerity as a solution, to their self inflicted idiocy.
Oh yeah and seal the borders and send the millions of jocks in England home, before any independence.
They’re making a rod for their own back.
If Fucking Scotland continues to hand out free old-age care then every ex-pat Scot will show up in their twilight years demanding a free place in a nursing home. Folk from all over the EU will flock there demanding their free old-age care.
So their entire economy will be paying even more state employees to shamble about the place consuming all that magic oil revenue.
It’ll become a health-care gulag.
Tee hee.
Of course there is the small matter of whether a newly-independent Scotland would even be admitted to the EU.
Let’s face it, they’ll hardly be willing to accept yet another screwed-up destitute economy, will they? I can see a lot of current EU members vetoing their membership.
Salmond is able to produce enough gas to generate 100% of Scotland’s energy requirements
Ok I’ll give him that
Well said.
As a British taxpayer I look forward to greater freedom once I’m no longer having to shell out for Rab C Nesbitt.
Plus a bus load of Scottish MPs in Westminster would have to stay behind Hadrian’s Wall, a Conservative majority would follow. To top it all, Gordon Brown would no longer be an MP. Och aye!
For all its disadvantages, a properly-functioning two-party system at least ensures a degree of political plurality. If Labour are locked out of power, there is no visible candidate to replace them.
…. which is how it should be. The field would be open to all candidates instead of a see-saw between two establishments only loyal to themselves.
Gordon Brown should be anointed President of an independent Jockland
It would quickly sink under the waves of the Atlantic that way..forever…
how does neo guido feel about the heavy streak of rampant anti scottish bigtory that runs through the comments of anything relating to scotland on this site?
bet that helps him feel welcome.
You are aware of the refund policy?
Oh f*uck off Jimmy.
Well blame Alex bloody Salmond. With a tosser like him spitting in England’s face day in, day out, what do you expect?
It’s not just Salmond, it’s the fucking thousands of jocks who are employed at the BBC, fuck me they’re like rats, crawling out from everywhere.
Nicky Campbell admitted he was a member of the Scottish Nose Pickers, but now he’s gone hard left and is a Labour luvvie.
I think it’s all rather funny.
We all know that most MPs/MSPs/MEPs are lying bastards.
No different either side of the boarder.
Border.
Labour being hard left ? In what reality ?
rampant anti scottish bigtory
Big Tory?
I think you’ll find most folk in England are very pro Scottish independence. Alex Salmond’s poisonous ‘drip-drip’ of Anti-English hatred has done its work.
Good luck.
Glad I got out before it was too late.
“Alex Salmond’s poisonous ‘drip-drip’ of Anti-English hatred has done its work.”
making anti scottish hatred acceptable?
OK then.
I’m english btw, glad the the Scots will get a chance to democratically express their thoughts on the Union and break free if they so wish; and good luck to them.
I want the jocks to go I just want to make sure we English don’t end up paying for it.
Salmond is a slimy wee toad whose grand scheme is for Scotland to be a thorn in the side of the UK/US but to continue to live on hand-outs. I don’t doubt the SNP sees Hamastan as a model for a state: that of a heavily-subsidised ‘resistance’ which is cheered on by bien pensant lib-leftists and Graun hacks in hacktivist mode.
You only have to look at the SNP’s favoured approach to conferring grants, and how a substantive portion of these funds had gone to a group run by an SNP crony which, moreover, was a dodgy, beardyfundy-associated one.
http://hurryupharry.org/2008/10/13/snp-direct-public-money-to-hamas-front/
http://www.socialcohesion.co.uk/blog/2009/08/scottish-islamic-foundation-forced-to-return-tax-payer-money.html
Anti Scottish hatred?
A chap can only take so much bile before he responds in kind.
Alex knows what he’s doing with his calculated condescension as do the more learned members of the S&P. Then all they need do is tap into the ‘Braveheart’ version of history they’re taught at school up there and promise the Labour voters even more free stuff than Labour and you have the makings of a real independence movement.
I’m all for it. Alex and his clowns can fuck off and play at being Latvia or Estonia all they like.
If Germany and France don’t pay any attention to the UK in Brussels than they’ll certainly not be listening to snide Alex. But he won’t care. He’ll have his own jet to fly around in. Wheeeeee, look at me – King Alex.
Nope. I’m sick of the fucking place. Sick of being lectured by the fuckers about how ‘caring’ they are, sick of being lectured in voodoo economics by the fuckers, and sick of looking at the utter clusterfuck their jackass enemy agent Gordon Brown made of the UK economy.
I think Hungary might be a more apt similar country…
So England’s finest young men are going to come to our country get drunk drop their pants and screw the local women as they do in other Eu countries thanks to Ryanair.
A chap can only take so much bile before he responds in kind.
I haven’t seen bile directed by the Scots against the English. I’ve seen a never-ending tirade of abuse from the English against the Scots.
I really just wish you people would grow up.
I haven’t seen bile directed by the Scots against the English
Then you’ve never lived or visited Fucking Scotland.
And for that you should be thankful.
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If the scots have one then can the english have too ….. please. Pretty, please.
And jgm, the Scotch can keep that ugly sod Andy Murray all to themselves. Not that many English folk bother whether he wins or loses I suspect.
“Not that many English folk bother whether he wins or loses I suspect.”
I’m not entirely sure who he even is. A racing driver?
Ignorant drivel on here. Wasted energy reading it.
Better read some more, just to be sure.
I’m usually among the first to indulge in some Scot baiting on here, but since it’s Burns night I’m going to resist the temptation.
Have a good one!
The people here spouting anti Scottish bile need to take a serious look at themselves,your comments are both ill informed of the independence debate and are verging on racial hatred.
The rest of us must ensure we budget for a good quality wall for when the inevitable economic collapse happens, causing mass economic migration.
Oh an before you ask, no, we won’t have you back.
I think you had better save the bricks for a different project. It would be far more beneficial to you, if you built walls around some areas of inner London and certain places in northern cities. Think of the peace of mind you would have, and you would be able to sleep easy at night, without fear of getting your throat cut.
Scottish independence good. Binning the royalty bad. The latter would lead to a far less libertarian situation, i.e. yet another layer of state management – although Prince Edward is fairly odd he’s far cheaper and less likely to poke himself in the eye with a stick than Euan Blair.
Yes, it’s the sad truth.
Sounds interesting…
Democracy: The God That Failed – The Economics and Politics of Monarchy, Democracy and Natural Order
Sounds nae bad, thanks AC1.
I hope we can also vote on the referendum as well, because I would like to say bye bye Scotland , we don’t want any more of your MPs .
Yes but we need to pass a law in England that bans the mongs coming down from north of the border and getting into parliament through the back passage.
There was a plan a few years back when Salmond first got power to get several English Labour MP’s in safe seats to be prepared to stand down to allow the likes of the one eyed mong and co to come down to England and still run the Labour party.
Does anyone really think the Scottish socialists really want to swim in a small pool?
As an Englishman I’d love to vote on the Scottish referendum and, as much as I’d like them to **** off, I’d vote against it so that they wouldn’t get their Braveheart ‘Free-dom’….
That really would upset them
TBH, how many English actually care about this? Not when there’s X fuctor, Dancing on Lice, Strictly Cum dancing etc on the box.
How come that 2 years ago the BBC called the economic situation a “downturn” but now are salivating about a possible “recession”?
PS Scotland will vote to remain in the union. The independence loonies are at a generous maximum of about 40% support and have been for years. Once the many awkward facts come out over the next 2 years that’s likely to collapse.
PPS The SNP line “Independence In Europe” is incoherent bollocks, though I doubt it’s likely to get much of a run out in the near future.
It’s worse than that Dude, I’ve lost count of the number of times someone on the BBC says we are in a recession and are not corrected.
Depends what bribes wee eck thinks up in the next couple of years.
As a Scot living in England let them go it alone, and take the f.u.c.k.i.n Welsh with you…………The liebour party would be dead and buried here…
The Welsh seem OK now, ever since they got their devolved thingy-do-da assembly whatsit, they seem quite content.
Might be my complete and utter hatered for the Kinnocks but I cant agree with you on this………….
I believe the people of Wales have apologised for the Kinnocks on several occasions.
I think they throw salt over a shoulder when he’s mentioned.
Enoch Powell spoke Welsh and wrote a Welsh textbook.
The Conservatives have not apologized for him!
Enoch needs no apologies – he merely gave voice to what most indigenous Britons thought and still think about our wonderful multicultural society.
Think what it’s like the other way around. As an English Tory in Scotland, I can see seriously having to move the family south to avoid punitive taxation in an economic basket case. Really sad that the land that saw the new enlightenment may choose to rip up the UK like an irrational teenager.
Do it today. By the time the independence vote is cast it will be too late.
I saw it all coming and fucked off in 2008. If I have any regrets it is that I didn’t keep on going. We’d be 30% richer and 100% isolated from the fallout of the Maximum Imbecile.
As a *Scottish* Tory in Scotland, I can see seriously having to move the family south to avoid punitive taxation in an economic basket case.
An economic basket case and a one-party state ruled over by that dangerous megalomaniac Salmond.
It’s not going to happen. Watching the SNP eat itself over the next two years should be fun.
“unable to persuade Neo-Guido of the merits of hanging child-killers”
I’m all in favour of hanging child-killers. And I wouldn’t just hang the ones who have killed, I would also hang noisy children. Especially the ones in Waitrose this afternoon.
Waitrose lol, the ones in tesco’s are 10 times noisier…..
The ones in Asda are the worst.
maybe we dont have a asda near me, thank f.u.c.k……….
It’s worth popping along to an Asda, just for 5 minutes, to remind yourself how fucking awful the places are.
The staff in their ridiculous green and black gnome outfits, the fat waddling farting belching swearing chavs grazing the shelves, snacking away as they waddle and fart and belch and swear, and all to the accompaniment of “Asda-FM”, the pretend radio station, blaring chavvy rap music over the intercom at a volume that would wake the dead.
I know, that’s why I stopped shopping there.
That and because 29 out of 37 of the checkouts are always closed, even after they’ve called out for “all red staff and managers to the checkouts”.
Not a snob then, are you?
Any video cameras on the self check-outs? Might give it a go.
Darien Scheme all over again?
Of course. It is a big pile of Gordon Brown’s jobbies.
Wait till they see the books of RBS.
The Royal Bank of Scotland plc, Registered in Scotland No 90312.
Registered Office: 36 St Andrew Square, Edinburgh, United Kingdom, EH2 2YB.
but,but but eck says the fault lies with lack of regulation from Westminster nothing to do with the Scots.
He seems to have misplaced the copy of the letter he sent to Fred the Shred congratulating him on his wizard banking skills.
Before Big Eck got his current job, he was an economist at RBS…
Shit economist given his delusional windmill fetish.
Susan Boyle as new head of state?
The difference between Susan Boyle and Gordon Brown is that one is a simpleton from Scotland, and the other one is a singer.
A violent one eyed shirt lifting simpleton.
with malignant narcissism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malignant_narcissism#History
It’s been edited from the full revealing similarity to a certain PM..
I think you’ll find they did ask to be in the union. They bankrupted themselves with greedy and ultimately calamatous investments in the Americas. (Sound familiar?) The Scottish kings had always had designs on England and when we had a space, as well as bailing them out we let one of them be king of the union seemed like a good way to stop them invading us.
When the Stuart line died out we chose William of Orange. A bit like us choosing Mrs Thatcher, the Scots found this offensive and tried to invade yet again. Far from Braveheart being about the English eating Scottish babies it was in fact the Scots being quite happy being part of a union where a Scottish king was chosen but not happy with the whole union choosing a successor when he died.
I think it would be sad if we divorced Scotland but not disastrous. We should certainly give them devo max. I have never understood Tories who claim they support localism when it means removing power from local councils or Brussels but not when it applies to Parliament. This inconsistency is a hallmark of the so-called Tory modernisers. John Major was terrible for Scotland because found it too difficult. Cameron seems to have no better idea.
“When the Stuart line died out” …………… eh/
I think that you will find the the “Stuart line” fucked off to France before it got hung. Serve the Jock mongs right for trying to force papacy on us.
A then free & happy English people then invited William of Orange to come across.
“When the Stuart line died out” ……………. eh?
After fucking off to France the “Stuart line” tried to come back twice (Bonnie Prince Charlie – remember him) & failed dismally. They continued breeding & the current head of the family will be the next King of Scotchland.
Step forward ……………. King Rod 1 – D’ya think I’m sexy?
Get your history correct. The overthrow of james VII and II by William IV & III and his consort Mary II was a popular in Scotland as in England. Scotland was fairly content with the Hannoverian succession. The Jacobite rebellions in 1715 and 1745 were Highland/Episcopal/Catholic rebellions The Stuart house by this time was fully in hock to Rome
At Culloden, one quarter of the regiments on the Government side were Scots (lowland) They loathed the rebels No way did the Scots want Roman Catholics in charge agin
Would the English ethnic cleanse the Scots after Independence. Returning all the Scots would of course ruin both countries. No jobs in Scotland and no brains in England.Happy Burns night.Anyway when the chips are down the protestants would stick to the Union and the Catholics wouldn’t. Sectarianism is still alive and well and with a smarmy laywer leading the yes vote the chances are nil
You are joking? Jocks and brains? I don’t think so.
Burns was a talentless git.
Burns fancied small boys.
Pervert – why couldn’t he stick to little girls like me.
Indeed, the saddest thing about Scotland is their reverence for a very minor poet indeed. It’s as if England’s literary hero was John Masefield. Poor old Scots! The pedantic Scott their great novelist; their greatest composer, er, Maxwell Davis?
Why don’t they stick to their inventors- that’s where they ARE strong!
Maxwell Davis is an English composer – just happens to live in Scotland BTW.
Real truth of Burns night is that Scots enjoy a good excuse for a piss-up – most look forward to the party rather than the maudlin sentimentality peddled at Burns suppers.
Nobody the English can think of for an anniversary bevvy?
The problem the English have is that there’s too many to choose from.
If they celebrated all the great English scientists, writers, composers, statesmen and other sundry greats then they’d be as p155ed as the Scots are all the time.
The only oddity is that the Scots have to hang some random excuse on 25th January. Who are they celebrating on 26, 27, 28, 29 etc etc of January and every other day of the year when they get just as fucked up?
Most of the Catholics want to join another country, let alone be Scots. I would be more interested in this debate if it was not blindingly obvious now that it is just wee eck bigging himself up at everyone else’s (especially the English’s) expense.
I thought most of those who signed the American Constitution were of Welsh Extraction, a number being fluent Welsh Speakers but then of course if you have it, you do not need to boast about it like the Scots, who do not.
Not Celts but Picts… dump the Froggy loving lot of them.
Bollocks! I seem to remember a bankrupt country, having squandered its wealth on failed colonial adventure coming to England for the ultimate bale-out.
If Scotland want their independence, perhaps they should consider buying their country back.
As to the future, I believe we will be better off without the scroungers and their vainglorious, self-opinionated egos.
They scrounged £398085 10s from the evil English to bail themselves out of the poor house after their great colonial adventure in central America (Darien).
If we consider that a loan at a reasonable 5%, they could repay us the £1.155 trillion and then wander off into the glorious uplands of independence, free forever of the despised Sassenachs.
I for one would be eternally grateful, if only not to have to listen to the incessant whine from the north.
Good to find some-one else is old enough to remember this event! The actual figures are interesting and of course do not feature in Salmond’s rhetoric.
Questions that SOMEONE in the media needs to ask Salmond
Salmond wants the English nuclear subs out of Scotland, presumably he doesn’t want their replacements or any other English naval ships to be built in Scotland either?
Salmond doesn’t want to pay towards the upkeep of English roads so he won’t object to a toll of Scottish vehicles entering England to pay for the use
Salmond won’t object to those public sector jobs funded by the English to be returned back to England or better still just abolished
Salmond will fund his own embassies around the world and won’t sponge off the English facilities
Salmond won’t have use of the English pound, why the fuck should the stability of our currency be put as risk by the incompetence of the jocks? After all we’ve seen what Brown and Darling did to the English economy.
Salmond will take his share of the national debt and will pay the English back for bailing out the failed jock banks
Scotland will pay totally for its armed forces and not sponge off the English
+1
Bringing all naval bases into England will create jobs in England. That’s OK.
Is it too late to bring construction of England’s two new £6billion aircraft carriers to England, too?
No the one eyed retard made sure it was Scottish jobs for English taxes and I can assure you that Salmond has already said he sees no reason WHY English ships shouldn’t be built in Scotland, the guy has a nerve. But the English just don’t get it, the media (Scots dominated) hide this from the English.
I’ll be astonished if even the Maximum Imbecile was so blatant as to specify the exact location where the contractor (I think it’s Thales) build their big boats.
Actually I wouldn’t.
But it’s entirely possible he didn’t specify they be built in the constituency next door to the outgoing PM so I think the remainingg, much larger England, with it’s likely future order book might be able to bring some pressure to bear to complete the fucking things in England. Either that or just bung Thales (head office Paris) the 5bn quid and never do business with them again. Either way – the money won’t be spent in Fucking Scotland. They’ll have to tax the natives even more for all the ‘free’ stuff.
Great Britain cannot be broken up to leave England and Scotland standing as we know them.
Our history has created many people across the World who hate us both and are hoping we are this stupid.
hear hear!!
+1
Indeed. There’s a reason Fucking Edinburgh has US, French, Russian, I*ri*sh and Chinese Embassies.
Only.
What possible historical or present-day geopolitical interests would those countries have to create a bit of ‘local difficulty’ with the neighbours eh? What statement could they possibly be making?
Pointedly giving Edinburgh zoo two pandas is part of the same offensive.
Alex doesn’t care though. Looking forward to much to his own jet as befits a head of state.
Re ‘..many peoples across the World who hate us both..’
Who did you have in mind? Don’t count countries with political/ideological systems which have a natural antipathy towards the Western way of life.
Nuclear Submarines are built in England at Barrow in Furness.
Yes but many of the ships are built in Scotland.
All the chips are built and shouldered in Fucking Scotland.
*small chortle*
Hmmm. £millions saved by getting rid of pilgrims. £billions saved by letting scotland go independent. £millions saved by not having to pay scottish mp’s including gordy salaries, office costs, pensions and expenses.
Sounds like a more than sensible plan.
And we’d probably be able to have double summertime, too.
GPS has left the Greenwich meridian without global relevance. Everyone (apart from the Shipping Forecast) calls it either Zulu Time, or UTC. Double Summer Time has lots of names as well; CET, Berlin Time.
The biggest argument against Scottish independence is that whilst it is a bad deal for England on the surface (the Scots get disproportionate influence and money) it is probably better than living next door to a dangerous and bitter basket-case, like Israel does today.
+1
And the SNP have a history of great sympathy to such basket cases. I’m confident that none of the scots side of my family would touch the slimy nyaff Salmond with a bargepole. Or anyone else’s for that matter.
Let ‘em Go
Let ‘em Tarry
Let ‘em Sink
Or Let ‘em Swim
Bloody ‘ell, mate, you really are showing your age now with that little number! That was the very first song I ever learned in about 1945 or so. I doubt I have head it more than once (probably on Housewives’ Choice – remember that too?) in the past 55 years!
*heard*
Gonna invest in wheelbarrow manufacturing when all the wee scunners get independence. Someones gonna hafta tip all the sozzled Jocks back over the border!
Just tell them someone in Glasgow’s handing-out free £5 notes. They’ll shift themselves quickly enough.
Would be multi purpose to lug around the Mcnotes .
Westminster has served us well in recent times – Blair, Brown, Cameron, Clegg, Milliband, Iraq, economic collapse, political expenses scandal, cash for honours, cash for questions, etc. – and don’t forget the EU referenda, pledged, promised and guaranteed by each of the ‘main’ parties.
Spread the contagion to the other “Parliaments”. That’s all right then. Continue as normal camouflaged by scandals in the regions; only £400 million for a Spanish designed building for wee eck to sound off in. Trebles all round!
On the cotrary, we are cutting out the tumour.
Do you prefer your Mars bar fried inside or outside its wrapper?
Always leave the wrapper on – one needs fibre in the diet and the wrapper provides the necessary roughage. Surely this health benefit was obvious from the outset?
Should restrict the independence vote to the English. Referendum question should be “do we want to carry on subsidising people north of the border?”
i suport askin that question
What a load of crap! The American Constitution is acknowledged by AMERICANS, to have been the initial work of an Englishman (who later defected to the revolutionaries)………. In fact they opened a museum to the guy in Lewes, a couple of years ago!
As for the “didn’t want to join a Union” It was the silly SCOTS, who went bankrupt and had to ask for the Union, in order to get themselves out of the shit!
I wonder how long it will be before history repeats itself…………
Jefferson, Washington, Hamilton, Witherspoon, McKean etc.
Scots.
Thomas Paine. English troublemaker.
He was also very involved in the French Revolution until the Froggies realised he was trouble and sought his head. He buggered of the America to cause more aggro.
Witherspoon gave us cheap beer
Wonderful man
I think you’ll find that Washington’s family came from Washington in County Durham which the last time I looked was well south of the Scotchland border. Check out the Washington family crest… the bottom part of the shield has red and white stripes whilst the upper part has pentipoint stars on a blue background. So, some fucking crossbreed Gordie-Mackam was not merely the Amerians’ greatest general of their war of independance and their first President, wor Geordis lad also kindly provided them with the design of their flag… goodbye George III, hello George I. More famous than Ant n’ Dek.
It was all the foolish aristos & bankers(again!)wasn’t it?
As usual the run of the mill people got the biggest kick in the teeth.
History does indeed repeat itself. It all started in Americia?
Bugger. Another wonderful post of mine awaiting moderation because of the lurking legume.
Meh!
You mean ‘pea’?
It’s a bugger that one. European. Appeal. Appealing. Rice and pea.
It appears we can’t use any of them.
How did you do that then?
Slaps head.
Shhh! The numbering’s gone. It appears they’re onto us!
I’ll hide in the corner and pretend to be a lampstand, you duck behind the sofa.
Because our host is a thick onanist who is about as trustworthy with a puter as he is with a set of car keys and a bottle of wine
P s are off!
unlike my hot tight butt
Herre I am in Scotchland peeping in le aggis
Looks like Salmond’s core vote.
Try ‘Bean’ with helpful notes such as:
my first in ‘P’ but not in B etc
Every time a Scot travels to England the average level of intelligence is raised in both countries. FACT.
I dont understand
Nor do I. Scotland’s not a real country.
Neither is England.
This is very true. Thanks to Scottish PM Blair, Scottish PM Brown and now Scottish PM Camoron, England is, indeed, no longer a country. Just a European region.
Nice that. Thanks.
lol nice one.
The retarded ginger rabble must be suffering from Dunning Kruger.
Iam at a loss on how you can be “independant” in the EU?.
You could always write to DC and ask him.
Nah, the crap you get back from those tossers, they must must have lawyers and the wide boys on standby making the crap up, I think you could get better getting an infinate amount of monkeys and desktops together and let them send you an email.
Send the buggers back, they are crippling the health service
BBC approved facts say that the UK is a Trillion quid in debt, will the Jocks be taking a quarter of that with them?
Shouldn’t they take it all, it was a Scotsman in charge, besides we were told by the Liebour party that the debts were an investment so let the Liebour party and all who voted Liebour pay.
No because eck says it’s Westminster’s fault or possibly 8% of it but he want’s 8% of all UK’s gold reserves & 90% of the oil.
Sounds reasonable.
The oil is gone as is the gold ( cheers McMental)
all the skirt wearing , cant wait to jump into the grave wankers have left are simple shit eating bi valves and midges
They can’t even produce Grouse anymore
Fucking wall them in and make any one of the bastards that dares to live down here wear a St Andrews cross on his lapel as a target for any natural born Englishman
Al Jockaeda
Scum all of them
I happen to live in Scotland but am not a native.
However I’ll help you get your wish & vote for independence.
Perhaps if you get your own English Parliament you can pass a law making Jock hunting legal.
salmon wants 8% of the UK’s Gold reserves?!
+++++Laugh+++++
Y’Mean 8% of the what’s left given that the last scottish pm in charge sold most of it off at brown bottom?
I wondered why £22.50 would help the cause of independence.
Romans had the right idea
why are the english alloud to produce scots eggs, when only the french are alloud to produce champainge
All Scotch eggs should ,like the place that they come from, be euthanised
Just why do we want to have anything to do with such people?
Dour, alcoholic twats who wouldn’t lend you a piece of used bog paper for free
c unts
It’s SHITE being Scottish! We’re the lowest of the low. The scum of the fucking Earth! The most wretched, miserable, servile, pathetic trash that was ever shat into civilization. Some hate the English. I don’t. They’re just wankers. We, on the other hand, are COLONIZED by wankers. Can’t even find a decent culture to be colonized BY. We’re ruled by effete assholes. It’s a SHITE state of affairs to be in, and ALL the fresh air in the world won’t make any fucking difference!
And Scotch Eggs originated in London, by the way.
And Scotch originated in Ireland. As did the Scots.
And the Bank of Scotland was created by an Englishman.
There is some symmetry though. Because England was ban*ru*pted by a Scotchman.
As was Scotland.
To be fair to the Scots, they did produce the excellent John Law, who bankrupted France.
So they do deserve some credit
Bank*ru*pc*y-wise there is an emergent theme.
Guido, move over and let NeoGuido do all the blogging on Scottish matters then. Scotland never did appeal to you in a positive way anyway.
As for all the disgruntled English commenters. Why dont you consider doing what Scotland is doing and going for self determination for your country? It is unfair that you do not have your own parliament and there are Scottish and Northern Irish minisiters voting on English and Welsh matters that have nothing to do with them. Incidentally, much as you dislike the SNP, they never vote on English matters, only those that affect Scotland.
My challenge to all unhappy English citizens is this: Set up your own nationalist party and campaign hard for a paliament of your own so that you are in charge of your own affairs. Taking it out on the Scots wont achieve anything for you. You have to act if you want change for your country, England.
The union is like the Austro-Hungarian empire a hundred years ago – weak, old, tired, dis-united and only kept together by a shared respect of an aging monarch, Kaiser Franz-Joseph I in their case.
Scottish independence could be the best thing to happen to the English for years, because it will force the issues of England out into the open, something the chattering/political classes are loathed to do.
To that lot, England is a non-country, the English a non-people. Just look at their routine attempts to deny there is such as thing as a native English population for instance, something they don’t do with the Scottish or Welsh poeple.
The SNP have shown the LibLabCons are a busted flush north of the border. Let’s hope the English can do the same south of the border.
Quite.
That’s why I held my nose & voted SNP for the first time in over 20 years of living here. It was that or spoil the ballot paper which I just couldn’t bring myself to do.
However the SNP have provided surprisingly good governance in comparison to the Liar shower with their years of corruption & mismanagement. They have not frightened any horses.
This will all change of course. Eck is going to frighten many Scots & wind up the English.
We live in interesting times.
I suspect he will also frighten many Scottish businesses as well.
It is ironic that a Conservative with a Scottish name should be about to hand us our freedom.
Dave is playing an absolute blinder. let’s face it he wants Scotland out of it because of the old giant panda trick.
His general demeanor and sanctimonious comments are going to lead to a yes vote.
the average IQ of prospective Conservative candidates has been about 7 I suspect with this in mind.
The English will have a lot to gain too when the pound buys 1.98 euros. they will be packing those yet to be seen trams in Princess Street for weekend shopping trips.
A free Scotland could really lead somewhere.
Bring it on.
“It is ironic that a Conservative with a Scottish name should be about to hand us our freedom.”
Firstly, he’s not a Conservative by any stretch of the imagination, he’s a spendaholic big-state creep. Secondly, he has a Scottish name because he is actually Scottish. This explains, to a very large extent, why he’s shitting all over England.
A lot like Tony Blair. Who would believe *he* came from bloody Edinburgh? “Why is this nice man with a Home Counties accent crapping all over England?,” asked the English in 1998. “Erm, because he’s a Scot.”
What I don’t understand is why Labour want Darling to lead the charge for them in Scotland? He’s not as despised as some of them but he’s not much liked.
I don’t suppose it will make much difference. We’ll all be sick of it & the turnout will be pathetic.
Have you ever seen Cameron in a kilt?
You might tonight!
As for Tony Blair I have always thought his wife looks as if she has just swallowed a kilt.
Cameron is definitely a spendaholic. he spends my money on clearing wisteria from his chimney and paying off the mortgage on his second home even though he is loaded.
I feel sorry for his wife being married to him but at least he has spent my money on a new kitchen for her.
Don’t the Camorons have a foreign slave to do all their cooking for them? There was something in The Times today about it. They got their slave (sorry, “nanny”) from a charity that specialises in “liberating oppressed Indonesians” or something. So they own her now.
Anyway, they gave their slave a car (an old Honda), but Camoron tried to park it and crashed into something. And then denied it. Although it was photographed.
It’s true. It’s in the paper.
They may take my Nokia, but they will never take my rocking horse!
For fuck’s sake, that was supposed to say Gordon Brown, not Ed Balls! Bloody mobile phone internet!
I auto-corrected it in my mind, but it was funny as Ed Balls, too.
‘Now, about the Monarchy…’
Yes indeed! Therein lies alexsalmond’s real ambition. If he can get them to give up the monarchy he can run for president and his dream of a gravy train for life might be granted!!
Then again if it comes to president you can bet others will be jumping on the bandwagon to try and get elected. Our very own gordy or foulkes or even bliar (let’s not forget he too is a scot).
They’ve all got their eye on any main chance that’ll get them loads of cash for no effort.
King Alex I?
King Tone I & Queen Cherie
He’s not that stupid Nell. He’s very kindly going to keep Queenie & the pound,the gold(£22.50) & anything else that can be put in the sporran.
You lot get a few rusting subs & a drip of oil.
Be £9billion plus a year better off.
Cheap at the price as they say.
I`ve just wasted ten minutes of my life reading this crap.
how can you its er been moderated ? still at least you have maintained the same erudite level of response , so your keeping up .
Well say something interesting then.
Don’t you think it’s interesting what the southerners think?
I find it really funny.
Why? Did someone make you? Are you not disciplined enough to make yourself do what your brains wants to do?
You’re not a scot by any chance are you?
Yeah, you’re right, you would have been better off having another couple of wanks over on Labourwrist.
Not to worry truther. You’ve likely not got much of one to waste anyway.
Whilst some have declared Alec Salmond as the slickest political operator , he of course suffers from being able to articulate why the union has worked for such a long time and indeed progressed in its own right , to somthing of far more importance than anything the EU could offer , indeed he has been riding on the back of some union facilitated renewal for some time . The unions strength over the faux EU is that it has and does adapt in a way that brussels can never do in encapsulating an islands history , he claims 2016 will be a moment when scots can celebrate indpendence , I will wager that by 2016 the union will be the better option when considered . As for freedom , freedom from what exactly ? mmmm scotish people still deluded that EU is going to be better ?? dear oh dear bit of a fishermans tale on the one that has been seen by him but never no one else .
Economic data perhaps didnt quite explain that retail held up for christmas and that it is manufacturing and building that is suffering from uncertainity and it is not as bad as it could have been at this some what long period in the trough as the causes of the excess are dealt with , a stall is being avoided and in my view the foundations being laid are important to provide a lon enough period of growth , to make the debt more doeable , which some eurozone countries are now struggling with as they delayed too long basic individual state deficet problems .
The trouble i have with Labour is this subtle manover from defciet denial to incredulous admission they would keep the cuts (still at loss which mix they have named) and be trimming down the state , without mentioning that they too would have necistated keeping low interest rates and ergo a credable budget (of which they have done no such thing) to do all this . To put it bluntly labour have done little more than pleasured themselves with fantasies and delivered economic falcies to the public , “too far too fast” is based on what exactly ? mmm well the need for jobs/growth , but if you accept you would do the cuts (for a certain better ecnomic psoition) then how can you be going too far too fast if it is only 4% different ?? let alone going too far too fast without any credible budget to explain what the problem is , with the current plan A .
I repeat agin Labour have never produced since the ruin departed a credible budget explaining there deficet reduction plan 50% in 4 years may have sounded nice but infaltion would have enshured the remaining 50% was yet another leech for another how many years ?? they never said , they just assumed that at end of 4 years things would be ermm you know , much better . Would they ? I think the first question is what is Ed basing his prediction of interest rates on , in this 4 years but by the end , we cannot go any lower , so how can he keep the interest rates without the cuts ?? The next things are perhaps to do with trade , true in 4 yrs time the world economy may be moving along a little better , but if as they would have done been the full debt whore and added the new EU debts , doesnt that give you an image of an economic plan that in 4 yrs time would be grinding the Uk economy to an inexorable death . Eds plan has nothing on damaging EU tobin transaction tax on the way citys ability to contribute to the current plan would be impaired .
They also play the snake oil salesman in how remdies on debts work ,a 4% difference in cuts is sweet bugger all , when you are 40% overborroed on what is the accepted norm of running econimies at debt levels of 30% of GDP , i mean its not even a 4 year face saver , its actually a decade plus face saver packaged with a mid point assumption and fallicey that debts will still not be a cruel leash on everytax payer in the country , and under there plan an EU one .
Where was the shadow budget ? that was to explain the long running term of rhetoric ?? “too false too feigned” , yet time and time agin they insert the catchy words , to play credible sentences when the public are suffering for what is only really what they left . I mean they admitt they have left a debt which is affecting us all , they havent got round to the what deficet was or is or that fact that they created a deficet requiring double digit impossible levels of growth to service it , mmm that missing growth figure from Eds plan , porkies , not even particluary clever ones at that .
The one question that caught my eye at treasury questions was from Mr Bone , when he enquired what trade imbalances were with the EU , I choked on my pie and mash , I wonder if Mrs Bone felt quite faint ? hardly a word from the lib dems , or had they not realised in all there campiagns how long the one way street had been going on for ! fairness ? I think come next election I will be at the forefront of ramming that fact down there throats and the remanants of st tone as eluding to much of our current predicament ,let alone what similar figures may reveal about the true story of how the euro worked .
Abridge, too long.
Fuck it man I finished school in 1985-couldnt you text it?
Start rebuilding Hadrian’s Wall, lets have some progress like Salmond wants!
Just leave a couple of holes in the wall for supplying the whisky and the remaining oil and then piss off!
Irish Whisky is probably superior to that scottish stuff. So I am told.
One hole in wall only required then for the oil pipeline!
Thought that oil was nearly all gone and that’s why they’re getting their nickers in a twist over iran and the straights of hormuz?
I woz told at skool (or was it blue peter) that it would run out in 20 years, that was in the 80s. Maggie kept some of it just in case the Russians turned nasty and there might some left. Hopefully by the time Salmond goes independent, the world will have given up oil and gone to hydrogen power.
The way they keep building houses darn sarf we’ll probably need a water pipe as well.
Wash your mouth out at once Nell.
That’s akin to starting a war on this lovely Scottish thread.
I must admit I enjoyed a bottle of Black Bottle recently (not all at once) and it was nice ….
tricky one that Nell , in my youth i did a great deal of intensive research
to find out , I came to the conclusion that Mcallan 25yr was about the most indecribelable treat as for the irish ones I think I settled at aged Bushmills , but there is one that eludes me as it tatsed like canadian club and was a smooth as gyneth paltrows slippers , perhaps Gudio can place it
Bushmills? Paint thinner – just like that fucking Scottish rubbish.
The only acceptable Irish whiskey is Jameson. Because it doesn’t taste like whisky – as you say – it’s more Bourbon in flavour.
best celebratory tipple is spanish brandy.
Powers Gold Label (if you can find it) is delicious. Smooth as can be and made for sipping.
For Scottish – Talisker every time. Not to many peoples’ taste I know, but I love that sea air flavour it has.
I really hate Talisker. I think it’s really rough for a malt. My favourite is Tamnavulin but the distillery has been mothballed & it’s very hard(& expensive)to find.
They say there is a malt for everyone’s taste. You just have to spend years searching for it.
I agree Jamesons is the best orish.
The worst whiskey or indeed whisky in the world hails from Ir*el*and too though.
P A D D Y.
I’ve made better whiskey by distilling petrol.
Distilling petrol’s not a good idea.
For a start, it’s dearer than actual whisky.
Not it’s not, is it? It’s cheaper. But it *is* dangerous to distillate it. Very.
I have been drinking (Scottish) whisky since 17:38 this afternoon and my verdict is.. I will have to drink quite a lot more tonight before I give a verdict. It’s a difficult job, but someone’s got to do it.
no it certainly aint
Let’s really upset those of a Caledonian persuasion…….
http://www.englishwhisky.co.uk/
I understood that the good burghers/bankers? of Edinburgh asked to join the Union as they had just made a lousy investment and were broke.
Sounds familiar?
Think they probably have the mentality and background for joining the euro then.
Over my dead body. Even the dumbest of the dumb won’t fall for that one.
Remember the Limpdems are a vanishing species in Scotland.
Eck has said we will get a referendum on joining the euro if he wins the vote.
He hasn’t paused to think if Europe wants Scotland.
Keep the lawyers busy for years.
Wonderful stuff.
I’d like to ask out Ant and Dec.
Alizee looks bigoted. I don’t like her.
Just a thought. we don’t need to leave him with any nuclear warheads do we? because he might need to ebay them if his money gets tight.
& another thought.
It is never difficult to distinguish between a Scotsman with a grievance and a ray of sunshine.
Good old P. G.
Get Israel in to build a ‘peace wall’ between England and Scotland. We need a bit of public spending in England.
FFS! Where have you been? I did the wall years ago.
but you put it in the wrong place,stupid!
The Antonine Wall might be a better starting point from an English negotiation perspective..
Somewhere between the two should work as a compromise.
With 33bn quid I reckon we could build a big wall 22 miles long as far as France. Build a ten lane motorway on top of it and fit big tidal turbines the length of it and charge any ship a fucking fortune to go through a couple of big locks in the middle of it.
33bn quid of infrastructure. Unlimited access to the continent, free power and a ready source of income from all those ships that would otherwise have to divert from Rotterdam over the top of Fucking Scotland.
I commend it to the House.
I zay Non!
Across the Channel? The tide would knock your wall over. Trust me.
The tide would knock your wall over.
Hence the big holes for the turbines. Free electricity, generating, for the use of.
We dont need X ray machines
We NEED Garlic detecting machines
That would keep them all out if we werent part of the EU
If you do a little research you will find that most criminals consume garlic and smell of it, there is a whole continent full of them
Just what is wrong with onions and mustard if you want bad breath?
G** [ut 22 miles of sea between us an them for a reason (He has shares in P&O)
They’d need to be f*cking big holes.
It’s a 23 mile wide channel, the tide differential at Brighton is 0.3m to about 8.5m, and that’s where the Channel is ~ 78miles wide. That’s a lot of water. A lot of energy. Try and shove that through a crappy turbine and it’s not going to last very long.
Mind you, that wouldn’t stop Camoron funding it to the tune of £33bn.
Eh? Putting aside the volume of concrete needed to block the channel, an 8.2m head is nothing. It doesn’t matter how much water flows through now – once you’ve blocked it, you’ve only got the excess pressure of 8.2m of water.
The French have a barrage on the Rance (and have done for years).
The best way to use tidal energy in the Channel would be to have turbines on the sea bottom. Though there are probably better areas around the UK, such as the Pentland Firth.
have you not heard of Salmond’s plan for a Scottish and Lothian canal to be financed by the EU?
Cameron has messed up again tonight.
A prisoner has just escaped from jail in England using a gun.
he is described as dangerous AND HAVING A SCOTTISH ACCENT!
We are all more worried about the Jockishness rather than the gun
The accent is worrying
Fuck the gun
Ear defenders all round untill this twat is captured
And of course Gordon will no longer be an MP and we can refuse to pay his pension and provide him with a protection squad.
Fuck off U Jocks
I don’t hate the Scots. I think its noble of them to take the RBS and BoS debts. My estimation has gone up a lot.
We will take on all the debts.
We offer you touuence in the pound.
Given that the previous two UK governments were run by Jocks ( Jock Brown and Jock Darling and before that Jock Blair and Jock Brown) I fail to see what Jock Salmond’s point is.
If the Argentinians want Scotland they can have it. Those are my final words on all this rubbish.
Once more unto the breach!
Once more unto the breach!
Another prisoner sprung from custody
a prisoner who was stabbed(set up)
was taken to hospital where a man with a gun sprung him
just shows the contempt that criminals have for the system and
that using untrained security guards doesn’t work
I’m only surprised they didn’t just give him £20 and tell him to get himself a taxi to prison.
Scotland did want to be in the relationship,in fact they begged to be in it after they cocked up their economy. (I notice a theme there)
Scots do make me laugh,most of them have no idea about their own history.
If they go,well good luck to them. But i think they should pay back the money that the English taxpayer spent to pay off their enormous debts,plus interest.
” Scots give America its magnificent constitution has never stopped.”
Nuts. First, he’s confusing the US Constitution with their Declaration of Independence, which is said by tartan imbeciles to be inspired by the ‘Declaration’ of Arbroath (it owes nothing to it whatever). The DoI was mainly written by Jefferson (very anti-Scots and of no Scots ancestry), inspired by Locke (English fellow from Somerset) and its structure derived from Tom Paine’s (English fellow from Norfolk) pamphlet Common Sense.
Second, the US Constitution’s principal architect was James Madison (Virginia aristo of English stock), though its main intellectual sources are again Locke (English), Bolingbroke (English), Blackstone (English) and, most of all, the British Constitution itself (albeit somewhat strained through the rationalising mind of Montesquieu). The presiding genius of the Convention was Washington himself (mainly English stock – no Scots blood).
The only noteworthy Scottish input was by Edinburgh-born James Wilson and Alexander Hamilton (born in Bermuda to Scots/Swiss parents), but these were – despite the latter’s indisputable genius – very much lesser players.
So much for the standards of an Edinburgh University education.
Oooh? Facts?
They won’t like that in Fucking Scotland.
tartan imbeciles
Do they come in any other fabric?
Awwww dont cry!! At least they still like the Inglish down in the Falklands, it`s just a pity nobody else likes you. Enjoy your loneliness….bye!!!
Turn the lights out before we do
Sorry, you’re not allowed to leave until you’ve bought your banks back off us.
About £200billion in total. Cash.
No, we don’t accept euros.
A real “kilt” is actualy a usesful bit of kit, sort of like a mans pashmina and sleeping bag all rolled into one
The ones that the Haggis molestors wear is a skirt suited for nothing more than a good turking from another bloke
Are you still fucking here? Your anti-Scottish rants are pathetic, juvenile, predictable and boring. Still, no show without Punch, eh?
Awwww. The Little Scotlanders don’t like it up ‘em.
I note that Jonah is on the list of attendees at the Davos forum this weekend.
Cue avalanches, general chaos and the collapse of the Swiss Franc…
Unfair
Swiss Franc gets on his knees for anybody
We’ve had two high profile escapes from the custody of her Majesty in the past two days however, on the plus side the Home Secretary had a fabulous photo shoot earlier in the week.
Shame they missed
Laurie Penny on Newsnight now – fuckwit or halfwit? You decide.
A half fuckwit
At least you get change
Fucking childwit
No probs she was way out of her intelectual depth with Paxo and Mensch. The truth always out
intellectual ……. Many apologies.
Watching Newsnight, I’m laughing out loud at Laurie Penny.
She’s funny as fuck.
Forgive me, would that be Laurie (not even worth a) Farthing you’re referring to?
I want £294,595 a years in house benefits! This is my countries, infidels! Give me my free money! Allahu cackbar! Praise our prophet who fuck the 9 year olds.
Two subjects where mr guido talks out of his arse..
the monarchy and the act of union.
Jings and help ma Boab!
The sassenachs wilnae want us tae make their passports anymer!
It’ll no be a broad bricht moonlicht nicht fer salmon then, hen.
The Dalek has just been watching (and re-watching, over and over!) “NewsPropagandaPorn” on Beeb2, with Jeremiah Taxman, and this reincarnation, the Dalek, can tell you that the Dalek, yes, His Holiness the 14th Dalek Lama, is utterly butterly *gobsmacked* at the sheer VAGINAL front of Motormouth on Steroids, Louise Mensch (natch) …
Talk about TAMPONS! – The Dalek has never, ever, *met* any vaginas quite like this in the old Brigitte…
(As is “Bardo”… for the GCSE brigade…)
The Dalek asks, politely – what the FUCK is going on???
The Dalek thinks Ms Venus Fly Trap is a seriously misconceived 8-10 Great George Street propaganda tool, clad in leather, thongs, and k-y jelly wiped silks.
The Dalek is not fooled.
Let the Dalek explain:
The Dalek thinks Ms Barbarella has made a complete VAGINA of herself tonight, but, then again, the Dalek has always thought Ms “Unmensch” was an arrogant nagging “chancer” (of course seized upon by Millbank for endless inane dribbling soundbites, ad infinitum) – of time of the month proportions!
Bottom line is this!
YES! The Dalek IS a human being (sort of), and therefore the Dalek WOULD do Mrs Mensch, right up the arse! Make no mistake!
But, His Holiness the 14th Dalek Lama would mostly shove his “Llama” in Ms’s 100 mph gob, to shut the never-ending harpy up!
A WIN-WIN situation for all, especially the Dalek!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!
I sink you need to go bed.
You make no zense to me.
A la votre!
The Scots will vote to stay in the UK and then moan about it until the end of time as if we forced them to do it or something just like the time they bankrupted themselves and joined in the union the first time so we would bail them out.
”too many receive an education of “abysmal quality”. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-16705691
That the few that did fucked as well then..
If Ken Livingstone is just an older version of Ed Miliband does that make Ed an eftie ?
Seal has gone to press with the reason for the marital break up with Heidi Klum – it seems he could not stop her Clubbing!
Yup, hence the facial scarring!!!
The divorce papers are signed sealed and delivered
Klumsy of him to have got caught with his pants down
must be a bit of a killer that
And the first Governor of the Bank of Scotland will be Steven Hester!
Harry, your examples of great Scots flourished after the Act of Union, not before. Edinburgh became the capital of the northern enlightenment after the Union not before. Whilst we both agree that too much state and and the wrong kind of union activity have dragged competitiveness out of Scotland, the answer to that problem is not necessarily independent nationhood. Still, I’m all for Scottish Independece – after seven years living in Edinburgh I left with a calm disgust at the prevalent racism towards the English. I don’t think they’ll fare too well.
Well, the Jocks were instrumental in reducing England to a receptacle for all the world’s detritus.
Seems only reasonable that they’d want to return home and pull up the drawbridge now that the project’s complete.
Gordon Brown is writing a new “bestseller”.
The Scottish Sun
“GORDON Brown is having another bash at writing a bestseller — after his dull debut BOMBED.
The ex-PM says 2025: Shaping A New Future will draw on his “wealth of experience as a world leader”. ”
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/4086644/Browns-Ripping-Yawns-Volume-2.html
The man is an utterly deluded lunatic.
He really does live in a fantasy. I guess that surrounded by fucking thick, tribal Labour apparatchiks he developed the idea that whatever he said must be true. Because nobody ever disagreed with him.
There are some cracking Amazon reviews of his last risible effort.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/0857202855/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
Love the one by Free_Radical
I’ll order the skip now. When does the printer start production?
Isn’t he a world leader in his own dreams, in mine he’s a corrupt thick sod , who with his master Bliar should be at the World courts in the Hague explaining why he started a war.
Who the devil’s going to print it? It must be a publishing company who knows nothing of profit and will therefore soon be bust.
A hand out culture and something for nothing utopia.
This is no different from England
I see the BBC are creaming their collective knickers over the coalitions defeat last night, some innocents would call it democracy at work, being a cynical tw*t I just wonder who’s paying them to do it and what are they getting out out of it, after all these don’t do nothing for a people of the country but do things for their own ends.
What I’d like to see is more reason and sense, and less gut feeling and emotion – especially when its down to just hating the english. And wishful thinking like “We wouldn’t have let the banks go bust if we were in charge”.
First one “freedom”. Scottish people have probably more freedom than anyone else in the world. OK anti-statists will say things about america, but they’re minor points really (and I’d probably trade them them for wierdly restrictive things that happen in the states)
It might sound a good idea for the English to say goodbye to their Scottish cousins. They are a drain on our country. The problem is that once the Scots are allowed to fester in their own Socialist controlled mess for a few years the whole economy will be fecked. A la Browne. (Feckwit!!!) We will then have even more whinging Scots pouring over the border looking for jobs and more handouts.
We could solve this by the Scots going independent and England leaving the EU. Economic migrants from the fecked Scottish economy could then be told to feck off to Ireland, France etc.
Number two: all this bollocks about the 1314. The Scottish won their “freeeedom” from a french king.
Give them independence, round them all up and send them all back – translation for any Jocks who might be reading “Hoots mon! you’re nae wanted, gang hame – awa wi ye!”
I want a vote on whether we should get rid of this sponging rabble!
How many English constitencies have M.P. in the Scottish Parliament? Feck all.
The whole whole expensive farce is down to that corrupt conniving cnut Bliar and his left wing sickofants. 1 billion pounds just for the fecking building
Scotland – yes you can keep the monarchy, you’re welcome to it, good riddance. They are descended from you lot anyway, via Berlin of course. Will you make Harry support Rangers and Willy Celtic?
Not seen this in the national press
Published: 25/01/2012 12:35 – Updated: 26/01/2012 09:22
“Fury at Ofcom proposal to allow Royal Mail to charge more for Highlands’ delivery
Businesses and residents in the far north may be faced with additional first class mail costs if Ofcom’s proposals to limit the Universal Service Obligation to second class services only is given the green light. ”
http://www.northern-times.co.uk/News/Fury-at-Ofcom-proposal-to-allow-Royal-Mail-to-charge-more-for-highlands-delivery-25012012.htm
1) Scottish independence and an elected Head of State for Scotland.
2) Welsh independence and an elected Head of State for Wales.
3) English independence and an elected Head of State for England.
Bye-bye hereditary principle. Welcome democracy!
It has been rather a long time coming.
Bliss will it be in that dawn to be alive!
It can’t happen too soon.
I look forward to the Palace of Westminster becoming a museum and a new English Parliament building in which all MPs can be seated comfortably rather than having to stand up or squat on the stairs during important debates. It is a silly place.
there is nothing wrong with these Scots.
the problem is you fucking English.
You are always causing trouble wherever you go.
Take that arrogant tit Tinkerbell Cameron. he is always sticking his ugly nose in where it is not wanted.
he flies off to Egypt and condescendingly says those Muslims can handle democracy and then he pisses off with a couple of signed arms contracts.
The Scots are OK. they can stay in Europe. But you self satisfied smug arrogant English…. Why don’t you do us all a favour in Europe and fuck off.
£102 billion in block grant from Westminster to Scotland since 1980.
£146 billion stolen from Scotland in Oil taxation since then.
You owe us £44 billion.
Guido you mentioned the Monarchy – just what would happen to the Crown Estates – there’s extensive acreages of them in Scotland.