January 25th, 2012

Lambeth Labour Put Pilgrim Wrecking Amendment Down

Pilgrims are on the agenda in the People’s Republic of Lambeth tonight. The Red Council has been dodging Pilgrim FoIs for six months, but was finally forced to reveal that their annual bung to the unions costs Lambeth taxpayers over half a million quid a year – ten times that in neighbouring Wandsworth. Guess who doesn’t run that council.

The Tories have put down a  motion against the £317,517 a year that is spent on 9.7 full time equivalent Pilgrims representing the triumvirate of Unison, GMB, and Unite. Another  £141,411 is spent to support 2.6 full time equivalent Pilgrims  from the “teaching” unions – principally the NUT and NASUWT. Lambeth Labour have gone into full bulldozer mode. Have a look at the wrecking amendment to Motion 7 here.  They amend:

“Council is grateful that these costs have now been disclosed. However,members are appalled that in a time of budget reductions and austerity in the public sector Lambeth Council is paying £503,548 a year to subsidise trade union officials.”

To:

“Council is grateful that these costs have now been disclosed. However, members recognise that in a time of budget reductions and austerity in the public sector paying trade union officials is a cost effective way to deal with industrial relations in the workplace. Massive cuts, too far too fast, forced on Lambeth by the government have resulted in unprecedented staff changes and restructurings where unions play an important role in scrutinising job plans, making amendments and supporting individual members through life changing decisions. They also perform excellent work on health and safety and basic skills training at minimal cost to council.”

Brazen.


78 Comments

  1. 1
    Frankie says:

    Very Naughty!

    • 15
      Popeye says:

      I want to know why this is not classed as fraud?
      If I was a rate payer there I would ask the police that question.

      • 19
        Handycock No1 Trougher in Parliament says:

        It is fraud and you would be wasting your time asking the police to investigate. That is what we tell anyone who accuses Portsmouth City Council of fraud and corruption, which goes on all the time. The police do nothing, that is why we tell the complainants to ask them to investigate. This is how it is in the public sector, that is why I have been getting away with it for years. Boaz.

        http://www.frequency.com/video/cllr-mike-hancock-cbe-mp-people-dont/29965905

        • 21
          Portsmouth City Council is the most corrupt council in the UK. says:

          Robert Mugabe and Goodluck Johnathan. You have got everything sewn up Handy and have had for years; you are our hero, and Portsmouth City Council our political model.

          • Lord Wayne of Trombone says:

            It is hypocrisy

            they get celebs to parade outside the Minet Library claiming GOV cuts are shutting library

            infact that are wasting £Ms on these parasites.

            Massive wankers

          • Handycock Phd (Troughing) says:

            Take no notice of these malcontents trying to imply that Portsmouth City Council is corrupt. As my dear wife says ‘they are all nutters.’

          • Spartacus says:

            ”Portsmouth City Council is the most corrupt council in the UK”

            Are you sure? There is some pretty stiff competition out there

        • 40
          M says:

          Is Portsmouth city council run from fratton park ? They seem to be running similar business models

          • Andrew Andronikou, Administrator, Portsmouth Football Club says:

            After an extended period dealing with the administration of Portsmouth Football Club and the Council. I would say you have hit the nail right on the head.

        • 54
          Tales of the Expected says:

          Pompey and Circumstance, or rather, p1ss and wind. When’s this scoundrel going to face the bench (whilst wearing a woollen granny hat, weeping and claiming he’s mad, in true trougher style)?

    • 22
      AC1 says:

      I call them the extortion funded sector for a reason. They certainly don’t serve the public!

    • 28
      Mbddghfdrytuykfgashygdsajygsjygsadjhcjysvjjszjhmcs\jgdsfgfdsyfyfdsyygdvjvc xbjhcvxbxcjvvdxjh,ds\vhjd says:

      Surely this is illegal and should go out to private temder?

      • 30
        All seeing eye says:

        Great handle.

      • 34
        Mbddghfdrytuykfgashygdsajygsjygsadjhcjysvjjszjhmcs\jgdsfgfdsyfyfdsyygdvjvc xbjhcvxbxcjvvdxjh,ds\vhjd says:

        And why did the twat who invented the typewriter put the n before the m? They should have got someone who knew their alphabet to do it.

        • 66
          I don't need no doctor says:

          There is a design / most common letter typed reason, but I can’t be fucked to explain more fully. Google it!

      • 77
        Jim says:

        What pay a third salary for the same public service job?

        The job in hand is to reduce public expenditure.

  2. 2
    Loungelizard says:

    In this fight we must take no prisoners, knock em down drag em out!

  3. 3
    poo master says:

    can we have a dirty protest?

  4. 4
    Rat's arse says:

    Something really has to be done about these parasite pilgrims and their commi pals. If Parliament don’t tackle this gross misuse of tax payers’ money, and show how the Leiber party is riddled with corruption, then I don’t know what can be done. Are the Leiber voters really that simple-minded?

    These troughers can’t be allowed to get away with it any longer.

  5. 5
    Sres says:

    I love how they squeeze Labour’s policies onto the very last page of that PDF

  6. 6
    annette curton says:

    I’m saying nothing, don’t want to risk a fatal dose of insulin from a saline drip.

  7. 7

    I can’t believe that Labour lost the election and are STILL ripping us off. This has got to stop! Is there a petition?

    • 24
      Handsome Dave says:

      Petitions are a waste of time l, that is why we allow them. Of all the many thousands of petitions, do you know of any that have succeeded? We are the political elite, we know what we are doing, don’t interfere.

      • 31
        Gorgeous Gordon says:

        It was I that started the No 10 Downing St petition site, just to fool the electorate to thinking they had some say, which of course they don’t.

        • 41
          M says:

          Now what was it that top gear presenter said the other day ? That might work instead of a petition

    • 38
      Tessa Tickles says:

      There is indeed a petition. Write “Cameron: get off your sorry arse and fucking do something about this, you useless tit” on a piece of A4 paper. Wrap the paper around a brick, and throw it as hard as you can at his stupid useless thick head.

    • 48
      Taxpayer says:

      It is partly Eric Pickles’ fault. He needs to get of his proverbial and see these activities as an aspect of the corrupt and wasetful practices which have burdened so many local authorities with dreadful debts and rotten managements

    • 53
      Gewyne says:

      need someone with time and money to legally challenge them

      If councils are paying companies/organisations for consultancy work in regards to H&S, Employment issues, contracts then it should be put out to tender -

      It’s a corrupt circle as these embedded employees also tout and sale training to the councils / NHS that just happens to be made in house by unions that sale the training, facilities, materials in the closed shop public sector. I would not be surprised if the Unions make a few hunderd million this was alone each year.

  8. 8
    nellnewman says:

    More than £half million for 12+ worthless leeches paid for by the taxpayer in one small district.

    And to think there’s more than 3000 of these parasites spread across the country.

    The money used to pay them all and the additional people who are then paid to do their frontline job, plus all the cars, expenses and pensions would likely fund 5star elderly care for everyone who needs it.

    • 11
      Cynical-old-bag says:

      I agree, Nell. If the Unions want representatives – let them foot the bill.

      I doubt if they’d been so keen to do it, though.

    • 23
      AC1 says:

      More usefully it could be used for tax cuts to stop this countries economy “falling off a cliff”

  9. 9
    Tuscan Tony says:

    the linked Lambeth doc is 105 pages of partisan politicking – is that what local authorities are for? Looks to me like weeks if not months of work putting that one together alone.

    • 13
      Cynical-old-bag says:

      That’s why our bins get collected fortnightly. The money had to be found somewhere!

  10. 12
    t says:

    Bloody Jo Brand, any thing for publicity!

  11. 14
    Hauptsturmführer Hattie Harmman says:

    Money laundering refers to the process of concealing the source of illegally obtained money. The methods by which money may be laundered are varied and can range in sophistication. Should you be interested in money laundering techniques, please write enclosing a SAE to …
    The Labour Party HQ
    39 Victoria Street
    London
    SW1H 0HA

  12. 16

    5 live – 1st item.

    “Labour have accused the government of cutting ‘too far & too fast.’”

    Wow! 5 live! The station for two year old news.

  13. 18
    Watch says:

    This is incredible. They change:

    “Council is grateful that these costs have now been disclosed. However,
    members are appalled that in a time of budget reductions and
    austerity in the public sector Lambeth Council is paying £503,548 a year to
    subsidise trade union officials.”

    To

    “Council is grateful that these costs have now been disclosed. However,
    members recognise that in a time of budget reductions and
    austerity in the public sector paying trade union officials is a cost effective way to deal with industrial relations in the workplace. Massive cuts, too far too fast, forced on Lambeth by the government have resulted in unprecedented staff changes and restructurings where unions play an important role in scrutinising job plans, making amendments and supporting individual members through life changing decisions. They also perform excellent work on health and safety and basic skills training at minimal cost to
    council.”

    A complete joke!

    • 29
      joescotus says:

      socialists are just so fucking THICK!

      • 36
        Tessa Tickles says:

        It’s an ideology dreamt-up by the terminally stupid. Put a bunch of complete cretins in a room, with some crayons, ask them to draw-up a set of political beliefs and the politics they come up with will be ‘socialism’.

        Except for Ed Miliband’s piece of paper, which will be blank, except for the dribble.

        And he’ll have eaten the crayons. Or stuck them up his bottom.

        • 46
          Watch says:

          The taxpayers alliance should start stealing paid public sector workers (if they can find a non retarded one) to, er, help employees complete their they tax returns – NOTHING to do with politics at all I promise who could think such a thing!

  14. 20
    Ballbag says:

    http://mailhost.tssa.org.uk/union/lul/newsletters/goingunderground_0802_2.pdf

    (Former) Cllr Bernard Gentry. Clapham Conservative and Trade Unionist. No Joke.

  15. 25
    joescotus says:

    pilgrims======and they whinge that the tories are thieving bastards

  16. 32
    Once a jolly swagman sat beside the billabong, Under the shade of a coolibah tree, says:

    Just be thankful that we have a Conservative lead Government who will put a stop to this.

  17. 33
    Polly Toybrain says:

    socialists are smarter and just nicer thieves

    • 50
      M says:

      Socialists pray on & deceive poor , vulnerable , that there for them and then keep them that way for who vote for a society of controlled poverty if you had a chance of aspirational prosperity

  18. 35
    Tessa Tickles says:

    “a cost effective way to deal with industrial relations in the workplace.”

    How about I suggest a more cost-effective way? How about: if you don’t like the industrial relations in your workplace, FIND ANOTHER FUCKING JOB.

    • 39
      'Gypsy' Dave Cooper says:

      Yes!!!

    • 51
      Pilgrims aren't the only rippoff merchants says:

      …and sell your Labour for knockdown price to some scumbag ‘small businessman’ or bunch of shareholders?

      Tough sell.

      • 55
        Tessa Tickles says:

        Other employers are available.

      • 68
        Stu says:

        You useless fucking wanker, small bussiness pays for itself or goes under, thats not the same as union parasites robbing our taxes. Not a tough sell at all really just reality.

        • 74
          Property is theft says:

          Businesses make ‘their’ wealth on the backs of their employees.

          Profit = stolen labour and time.

  19. 37
    Paul Mason says:

    Surely Unions are supposed to defend ill treated employees from nasty employers. We’ve already had that teacher in Haringey giving out heart rending claims that she has spends all her taxpayer funded time dealing with distraught teachers. It seems to be the case that as employers the Comrades are so appalling that even they recognise there is a need to force the taxpayers to pay for someone to protect their employees from elected Labour Councillors.
    I wonder what the Tolpuddle Martyrs would have to say about that.

    • 73
      Ann Emmy Grey says:

      Full ahead both – let’s get away from this sh1t hole as fast as possible.

      Maybe?

  20. 43
    This One Was A Traitor, Too says:

  21. 44
    HPDL says:

    “They also perform excellent work on health and safety and basic skills training at minimal cost to council.”

    Otherwise known as commonsense training

    • 76
      Spartacus says:

      Training, like a two day course on walking up stairs (safely) and another two days’ course on walking down stairs (safely).

  22. 52
    John Bellingham says:

    It’s a disgrace! Just think how far half a million quid would go to fund a councillors piss-up or the planned celebrations to twin the borough with Treblinka.

  23. 61
    Julian the wonderhorse says:

    They were also putting posters all round Lambeth and sending emails to all residents who had signed up to their bulletins saying “because of the cuts we have to cut services, where do you want the cuts, libraries, street cleaning….” etc. When I emailed to say it would be better to drop the poster campaign I was told the posters cost £60.
    When I emailed to say I didn’t believe a poster campaign cost £60 I was told it was better if I removed myself from the mailing list
    Brazen

    • 69
      Stu says:

      Liebor scumbag council lieing, about the cost of something what a suprise. You should have asked them how much pilgrims are costing them and could they possibly cut that cost. Or, just ask, why dont you stop paying the odious stinking union parasites leaching onto my council tax.

  24. 63
    Koba says:

    This is gerrymandering surely?

  25. 64
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Mark Serwotka says that the Pilgrims are great value for money and the tax payer should feel themselves very lucky.
    Mark Serwotka says to all his union members taking home less than £26k a year, fuck you I’m o.k. on my 6 figure annual package.

  26. 65
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Doing the Lambeth walk.
    Any time night or day.
    You can hear the Pilgrims say.
    Fuck you suckers.

  27. 67
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Ed Miliband sounds like Kenneth Williams of Carry On fame.

  28. 70
    Thatcher's Iron Stiletto says:

    Time to finish the job I started!

  29. 71
    S-Box says:

    I used to really like this site, but now every time I log in there is dull stuff about Unions. I’d prefer more double-ended dildo stories, myself. Just thought I’d pass that on, I understand it’s a money-making concern these days and customer feedback is always valuable.

  30. 72
    barry_p says:

    if unions require union workers to do union work for union members, then surely the unions should pay for it? why should the taxpayer pay for this union work, then have to pay again for someone else to do the job required? unions do not represent the taxpayer, only their active members, so unless they freely open up all their expertise to all working taxpayers, then they need to end this nonsense

  31. 78
    Displaced Brummie. says:

    They also perform excellent work on health and safety and basic skills training at minimal cost to council.”

    They should not have to., That’s their employe’rs job. Are the unions saying Labour Lambeth aren’t up to the job?


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“There is more sexism in Britain than in any other country in the world, according to a mad woman who has been sent here by the United Nations.

Rashida Manjoo is a part-time professor of law at Cape Town University in the totally non-sexist country of South Africa (otherwise known as Rape Capital Of The World).

Mrs Magoo has been wandering around with her notebook and is appalled by the sexist “boys’ club” culture here, apparently.

I don’t doubt we still have sexism in the UK. But is it worse than in, say, Saudi Arabia, d’you think, honey-lamb? Or about 175 other countries? Get a grip, you doolally old bat.”



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