January 9th, 2012

Union Funded Labour MPs Organising Against Pilgrim Vote

After his OpEd in the Telegraph this morning, Tory MP Jesse Norman will put down at 10 Minute Rule Bill against Pilgrims immediately after PMQs on Wednesday:

Ten minute Rule Motion: Jesse Norman: Trade Union Officials (Refund of Pay to Employers): That leave be given to bring in a Bill to provide that pay for hours worked on behalf of trade unions by trade union officials during hours when they are paid by an employer should be refunded to the employer by the trade union; and for connected purposes.

Success with a 10 Minute Rule Bill is rare, but it should be a good reminder for the government about this issue in the run up to their promised consultation. Cameron has pledged to scrap taxpayer-funded trade union activity so it would be embarrassing for him if it were to fall. The union funded Labour MPs are having their thumbs screwed by the brothers to organise against the vote:

From: LLOYD, Tony
Sent: 05 January 2012 14:25
Subject: Ten Minute Rule Bill next Wednesday after PMQs

Dear Colleague,

You may be aware that the Conservative backbencher Jesse Norman MP is introducing a Ten Minute Rule Motion on Wednesday 11th January. It will be opposed by Labour MPs in the Chamber and it would be useful if you could be around to vote against. Its timing is subject to statements and PMQs but it will be the first piece of business after 12.30.

Regards,

Tony
Tony Lloyd MP
Manchester Central

What Tony doesn’t mention in his email is that he is the chairman of the Trade Union Group of Labour MPs.

The group greases the wheels for unions to manipulate legislation. They seem to be getting their money’s worth today…


177 Comments

  1. 1
    Jane Pilgrim says:

    Free trips to John Lewis and Wagamama are a right!

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    • 20
      TUG says:

      http://www.tugroup.net/

      From Wiki
      The Trade Union Group of Labour MPs is a British group representing all Labour Members of Parliament who are members of trade unions that are affiliated to the British Labour Party. The group meets regular to discuss issues related to trade unions, keeping members informed via a web based bulletin about such issues. Tony Lloyd the Member of Parliament for Manchester Central is its Chair.[

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      • 26
        TUG says:

        “For more information about the Trade Union Group of Labour MPs, please contact Frank Doran MP, Secretary of TUG: doranf@parliament.uk

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        • 61
          David M says:

          or get a life and dont bother with these wasters cos they support back stabbers

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          • Doran has been in more seats than the man on the Clapham omnibus, no doubt his present constituents will give him the boot eventually. Of course these vermin wont support this bill, they wont willingly bite the hand that`s fed them AND given them their party leader. Labour = Unions = Labour.

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          • Hank Roberts, Pilgrim says:

            Me an’ the Comrades do stirling work protecting da Workers from expolitation by the cruel and venal Employers ‘an stuff, so we are worth every penny we receive from the Taxpayer…

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          • Steep drop. says:

            Sounds just like the firms that have a huge say about the
            obscene payments given to the FUCKING SUITS !,
            ie: the ‘funds’ (pensions) insurers (pensions) plus any
            lickspittle suit ‘johnny cum lately’ that wishes to make
            THE fast buck !!.
            FUCK US ? FUCK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • 47
        imnumbervi says:

        “the group meets regular…..”

        ’nuff said.

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    • 24
      Handycock Phd (Troughing) says:

      Absolutely right Jane, that is what taxes are all about. These campaigns to stop MP’s, Members of the Lords and the public sector from troughing will come to nothing. My old flatmate Bob Russel has been knighted for troughing and I am extremely annoyed about it, as it should have been me. I have been troughing for far longer and much deeper that Bob ever did. Perhaps they are lining me up for a peerage? I will have to talk to the Grand Master about it. Boaz.

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      • 152
        Berk's Peerage says:

        Yes, Brother, you are being considered for a Life Peerage. We believe your “barony” should be one named after a town on the South Coast. Thus, we believe you will be styled “Baron Hancock of Bognor.” “Lord Bog” seems somehow felicitously apt.

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    • 27
      DUEMA press office here says:

      No need to worry Our Ed’s on the side of the tax payer here , you watch

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      • 32
        Goddess, Empress, Dictator Frau Merkel says:

        I’m becoming increasingly worried about my Labour poodles shooting themselves in the foot. Dedward Miliband seems to be increasingly skilled at this as is the massively fat black poodle.

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        • 97
          Nemo says:

          That’s strange I thought that the Christian Democrats were the German equivalent of the Tory party

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          • I Remember You Hoo says:

            You thought wrong, Nu Labour / Blu Labour / Lie Dem’s / Coabullshitters, are all servants to the EU and it’s master, Germany and it’s owners, the banks.

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      • 101
        Union spokes person says:

        Any of my labour hoes step outer line the bitches gonna get slapped up by the big boss
        No that’s not Ed he’s just another bitch

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    • 174
      Pickled Wizard says:

      I always thought TUG was slang for wank – ergo, Trade Union Group of MPs – Wankers

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  2. 2
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    so they are so in hock to the unions that they want to screw taxpayers in the private sector to fund a nurse who desnt well er nurse.

    Public service or gravy train?

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    • 39
      wtf says:

      so finally you get it

      next thing they will be onto security guards who sit in their booths all day playing with themselves and making moronic comments on the internet instead of doing a real job

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  3. 3
    David Rose says:

    Johann Hari is the greatest journalist ever.

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  4. 4
    john in cheshire says:

    Tony Lloyd – another name to remember for the future.

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  5. 5
    Sophie says:

    Just like windfarms & climate change, immigration, the EU, MPs expenses, high fuel prices & high taxes Heathite Dave Cameron will spectacularly & loudly do nothing about Pilgrims.

    Vote UKIP.

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    • 106
      The Golem says:

      +1. Although not a member of any branch of liblabcon, it seems to me that it has been obvious for some years that Dave and his team are there to do exactly what you say they will do. The membership seem content to let him motor on with what amounts to a champagne socialist’s agenda.

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      • 158
        I Remember You Hoo says:

        Anyone who seriously imagines that the agenda of the coalition is any different from Labour, both old and new, is in need of care in the community. At every turn the argument is not about policy, but how it should be managed.

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    • 159
      Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

      Agree Cameron is a blow hard, sound bites, key note speeches but no actions. Add to you list his latest wheezes, rolling back the Health and Safety Culture and making people work for their benefits.

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    • 167
      Steep drop. says:

      They are NOW very aware that their time is limited within the
      political sphere, so you have Tony Blair (multi-millionaire),the ugly
      guy who supposedly created ‘new labour’ (sorry,name escapes me)
      ‘got a small pile’ on Regents park (minted).
      On my mothers grave i hope they all get the justice they deserve.
      (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE !!)

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  6. 6
    David Bouvier says:

    The declarations of interest prior to speeches should be good – I hope someone well informed will be check as they go…

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  7. 7
    Anthony Worrall Thompson says:

    For lunch today I had a bottle of Chablis and some Gruyere. I always get great value from Tesco. Every little helps. I mean, every little chef helps himself.

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  8. 8
    Albert Hall says:

    That poor woman, she must be so regretting she ever opened this can of worms. Serves the b**** right!!

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  9. 9
    Sophie says:

    Can we have right to vote on MPs salaries & expenses?

    If its good enough for shareholders of private & public companies it should be good enough for the shareholders (voters in UKPLC.

    Afterall, we are sick of rewarding failure in public iffice: Gordon McMental & Lard prescott for one – I want their pensions back in the public coffers.

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    • 40
      Special Ed says:

      Can we vote for footballer’s salaries too then?
      Or how about film stars?
      It’s all private enterprise.

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    • 70
      The Paragnostic says:

      At the very least, we should be able to vote for sensible pay levels for the council “chief executives” (read: jumped-up town hall clerks) who waste our council tax – are we not “stakeholders”?

      I’d like nothing more than to see the scrounging bastards taken down to a sensible salary – about 40-60K is right for a town hall chief clerk, and if they don’t like it then they can take their “expertise” on the free market and see what jobs they get.

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      • 105
        The Council Car Park says:

        The trouble is, too many of them already do tout themselves to the free market: actually, the balck market, and rake in loads of tax-free envelopes on top of all the troughing.

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  10. 11
    Sophie says:

    Just like wind_farms & climate_change, im_migration, the E_U, MPs exp_enses, high fuel prices & high taxes Heat_hite Dave Cameron will spectacularly & loudly do nothing about Pilgrims.

    Vote U_KIP.

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    • 14
      Sophie says:

      Love to know which word keeps getting modded.

      Is it Heathite or traitor?

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      • 25
        annette curton says:

        It’s not a word that gets modded in this country its a phrase “freedom of speech”.

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        • 29
          All our Yesterdays says:

          Another of Tony Bliar’s achievements ……along with mass immigration

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          • The Labour Parteh, circa 2004 says:

            Firstly, no more than 13,000 Poles will move to Britain, so there’s no threat to low-paid British workers’ jobs. Secondly, immigration will be very beneficial to this country. Just you wait, by 2010 the economy will be roaring away.

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          • The Council Car Park says:

            They weren’t lying. The economy roared all the way to the far east.

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      • 31
        Broadsword calling Danny Boy says:

        Check out the word pr1ce; it’s got r!ce in it which is almost as dirty a word as “pe4s”. Blame Fatbutt.

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        • 141
          Let's Be Certain About This says:

          Lest the would-be Media Czars like a certain Billy Bunter lookalike propose legislation in Parliament to this effect making it mandatory, I believe all UK-serving websites fully disclose moderation policies in a click-on link on the home page; none of these “for: Length; Relevance; Personal Attacks” generalities. Let’s find out which certain words activate Guido’s ModBot. Let’s also find which opinions are taboo at certain websites maintained by certain birdcage liners, too, as long as we’re at it.

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      • 36
        Anonymous Misogynist says:

        It is the word Lice as the Chinese would say in the middle of the other word for cost that Modbot doesn’t like Sophie…..

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  11. 12
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    So will the Livechat extend to cover the bill being presented?

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    • 42
      Billy Bowden in the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      please please please

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    • 63
      Nemo says:

      Will the real “Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever !” stand up please

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      • 81
        Selohesra says:

        If only we could register our name with e-mail address – all this fakery would stop

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        • 87
          Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

          Do see why anyone is concerned, its only happening to me.

          I hope no-one else has to put up with it.

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          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            Stop stealing my brand.

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          • Nemo says:

            Willy, there , there don’t get upset, give as good as you get old lad, use another moniler if it worries you so much, no ones going to beat you up and its all anonymous, get a dictionary such as Word Web its free, check what you write ie preview, I very rarely do, hence little massages from bloggers telling me to check my entry before posting

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        • 92
          Oh, WTF, I'll Claim I'M Billy Bowden, Too says:

          What if, sadly, ALL “Billy’s” were Billy Bowden the Senior Security Officer and full-time Tweeter Ontablets, and this was all some strange “cry for help”?

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  12. 13
    annette curton says:

    He that pays the piper calls the tune, Isn’t that so Ed (the red).

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  13. 15
    Gordon saved the world don't you know says:

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    • 23
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      Using the Public Sector as a job creation scheme is not growth. Bankrupting the Nation in an orgy of crony capitalism to save financial institutions for party-political purposes is not growth either. Labour is not trusted with the economy, and statements like Dr. Clarke’s show the reason why.

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  14. 16
    The Stilton Eater says:

    Any Labour MP voting to take front line public workers and put them on union duty should be named and shamed so voters can identify them.

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    • 116
      Wonkatonk says:

      That’ll be most of them then. Its not just the cash payments and the ‘seconded’ staff pretending to the interns you have to have a look at. See where they have their election leaflets printed.

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  15. 17
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    The full awfulness of Tony Lloyd is here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Lloyd

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    • 53
      Red Ken ( 'pond life' ) Livingscum says:

      Tony is similar to me; neither of us have done a ‘real’ job in the private sector throughout our entire lives.

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  16. 18
    Antony Wally Thompson says:

    It’s actually worse than I thought! I assumed Worrall shoplifted just once before being caught. Turns out he did it 5 times over 16 days! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-16465934

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  17. 21
    Jasmin Alibi Cunt says:

    Fucking corrupt Union puppets

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  18. 22
    Gordon Brown says:

    I like cheese.

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  19. 28
    Red Ed's non-predator union bosses says:

    Pilgrims are productive members of society – for trade unions !

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    • 71
      Dr parasite says:

      leeches are also used to heal patients – or used to be in the good old days

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      • 119
        Donovan says:

        Just like those bands from the 1970′ and 80’s, they’re making a comeback:

        http://www.leeches.biz/leech-therapy.htm

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        • 166
          Really? says:

          The site appears to have been rendered into English using something like Google Translate – how else to explain solecisms like ‘calcifying the containers’?

          Leeches never really went away; they are bred commercially by the Danes and ‘milked’ for the anticoagulants in their saliva. A search on Google reveals that ‘leech fat’ has rather more, ahem, ‘intimate’ uses.

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  20. 34
    Anonymous says:

    Same old Labour, support the Unions at any cost and let the British Taxpayer foot the bill! Labour bankrupted the coumntry but this won’t stop their quest to enrich the Unions’coffers.

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  21. 35
    Gordon Brown says:

    I have one and you can’t take it away from me. You did say you want a clampdown on pig grins?

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  22. 43
    Lord Michael Caine says:

    Don’t forget Unions are not the only ones getting taxpayers funded perks add to list Association on Chief Police Officers.

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  23. 48
    nemo says:

    Guido old chap, I assume that will also apply to the Police Federation officials and other police quasi union groups

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    • 54
      nemo says:

      If that does go ahead personnel depts will suddenly having to do more work

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      • 82
        Loungelizard says:

        Nemo me old lad get a grip. Tony Blair banned personnel departments it’s all Human Resources these days, more cutting edge…sexy, jackets off, no tie, designer stubble type stuff. They ‘Let people go’ so much more cool than firing people.

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        • 112
          Nemo says:

          It’s the same old, what’s in a name, they didn’t do much anyway until it came to mass redundancies

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  24. 51
    Ed Tourette says:

    C*un*t., fuck, titty wank……so what?

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  25. 72
    Raving Loon says:

    I bet Labour would be up in arms over tax payer funded Conservative lobbyists. It’s the same principle. There’s nothing honourable about being a union activist. Unions are special interest groups like anything else. Let them exist, but don’t expect taxpayers to fund them.

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    • 95
      I don't need no doctor says:

      They sure would, selective racism for labour is o.k. though.

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      • 125
        The Labour Party says:

        We want votes from people who don’t like j**s. Got a problem with that?

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        • 143
          The Paragnostic says:

          People who don’t like jobs?

          I reckon that’s the only people who still vote for Labour. You’re preaching to the convalescent there.

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  26. 86
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Union membership seems to provide the right to take money. Pilgrims take money from employers. Union leraders take money from their members – lovely six figure salaries, and labour MPs take money from the union members.
    Union membership, it’s a lose, lose, situation.

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    • 94
      I don't need no doctor says:

      forgot to add that union members go out on strike because a tiny percentage vote to, then they lose money for not working. Union membership is for losers. Who are the winners, yes of course union leaders and pilgrims – nice work, thanks to the rank and file losers.
      Serwotka, Prentis, Barber, and Crowe are no different to the bankers.

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      • 124
        Nemo says:

        I was at a union meeting many years ago, admittedly the room was above a machine shop, very noisy, time came to vote, for and against, I heard one bloke say to the other “what did we vote for” you cannot make it up.

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    • 98
      imnumbervi says:

      Socialism at its very best.

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  27. 89
    Thieving Tory says:

    Thieving chef Worrall Thompson is official spe@ker for controversial “Tory madrasa”

    http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/01/anthony-worrall-thompson-ybf/

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    • 100
      The Paragnostic says:

      Surely that should be “paneer” rather than “madras”?

      Anyway – who cares – the man’s obviously got issues and needs a doctor. Pretty bad taste to use Tesco, though – he might have nicked some Israeli cheese by mistake.

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    • 102
      T.B£iar, the People's Messiah says:

      Typical Tory.

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      • 107
        P.Mandevison, the Eminence Greasy says:

        Yeah, you’re right, mate.

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        • 110
          Margaret Moran says:

          I know what you mean.

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          • Joss Taskin says:

            You’re supposed to be ‘distressed’, aren’t you ????? ;)

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          • Margaret Moran's lawyer says:

            Yes, my client is indeed distressed. The thought of being punished for stealing £60,000 from the working class is making her ill. She will not be ill if she is not punished, therefore I argue she be acquitted on health grounds.

            Plus, she’d like to keep the money, if that’s OK.

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    • 111
      Stealing A Line From The Gayers says:

      But that doesn’t make him a bad PERSON.

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    • 122
      I don't need no doctor says:

      Dianne Abbott says you’ve taken what Worrall Thompson did out of context.

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      • 130
        I'm A Celebrity Give Me A Caution says:

        In colonial times he’d have been sent to Australia. Oh, he’s already done that.

        Like

      • 132
        Tachybaptus says:

        I legitimately put things on expenses.
        You shoplift.
        He is a professional thief.

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  28. 113
    nellnewman says:

    Well we’re being a bit unfair aren’t we?

    After all those union funded MP’s receive handsome handouts from the unions to do what the unions tell them. In other words they are bought.

    If they should choose to do the decent thing and act for the benefit of the taxpayer and their constituents and not the unions then the unions will remove their generous handouts.

    It’s a no brainer isn’t it? They are going to go where the easy money is.

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    • 134
      Nemo says:

      Nell after the Foxy-Werritty affair the Cons cannot complain can they, the are probably all at it, all parties, maybe there should be a list backers of MPs, and if anything comes to light that they have not mentioned, they would automatically lose their seat.

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  29. 127
    Norman Jesse says:

    It ain’t over till the fat lady sings.

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  30. 129
    The Last Quango in Paris says:

    Jane Pilgrim.
    Never has one woman done so much damage to the Unions – she must be a troll.

    Come on Ed, this should sort your popularity out – tell Jane and the Unions to get with the real world and work bloody hard like the rest of us – if I took as much time off my work as she did i’d be fired and my job is not as important as being a nurse. It sickens me to hear about nurses saying they are understaffed on one hand then this nutter on the other.

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    • 144
      Lalalalalalala says:

      Ed and his fellow MPs have very distant memories of what hard work is, if they have ever done any. For them, these lazy Pilgrims seem like real grafters

      Like

      • 153
        The Last Quango in Paris says:

        I wonder if Mrs Miliband will introduce her husband ‘ he is fab at the rubik’s cube, he watches blackbusters, he and David are great mates….. my husband, your weirdo’.

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  31. 135
    Geoffrey Brooking says:

    Even more evidence of how Red Ed and Labour are still failing to learn from their election mistakes.

    Shame on Tony Lloyd are his fellow union baron troughers :-(

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  32. 137
    They're all at it says:

    Troughers living high on the hog courtesy of tax payers money whilst buying influence over a political party.
    That should make them easy to spot.

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    • 154
      Labour + Unions: The Thicko's Communiteh says:

      The other thing that makes the easy to spot: when they walk, their knuckles drag along on the ground.

      Like

  33. 138
    The Last Quango in Paris says:

    inspired by Dave Prentis:

    Jane PilgrimHi, Inspired when I met David Prentis last week,I feel it very important to get involved now. I live in Norbiton, I work at St Georges where I am the Staff Side Sec for UNISON. Its important to win the next election. The cuts in the public sector are going to criple the lives of hard working, commited and caring people. We cant let it happen.

    October 16, 2010 at 11:24am · Like · Comment

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  34. 139
    A disabled person says:

    The government intends to replace Disability Living Allowance with the Personal Independence Payment. Thousands of sick and disabled people will lose out as a result of this reform.
    A report has been prepared by disabled people which totally demolishes the government’s case.
    Read it at http://tinyurl.com/78erjru and send a copy to your MP, before it’s too late.

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    • 151
      KISS says:

      I’d love to read it, but the link gives me, “Microsoft Word Web App. Responsible reform for Screen Readers on SkyDrive.”

      Couldn’t they have just released the report in html?

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      • 163
        A disabled person says:

        But it is readable from that link isn’t it? Thanks for looking.

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        • 164
          A disabled person says:

          This should get you there #spartacusreport bit.ly/Ad01m6

          Like

          • Carl Marks says:

            Something to do with Twitter which I don’t understand.

            Like

          • Really? says:

            Try this link.

            My first impression is that it takes the form of the kind of ‘meta analysis’ which our beloved Royal National Health Service uses to decide whether a new drug delivers the kind of bang per buck which merits approval by NIHCE.

            The percentages it quotes refer to self-selected groups of unknown size and affiliation, raising my suspicions further.

            Their essential problem for the study is to disprove the widespread thinking that disability benefits have mushroomed as successive governments have tried to massage unemployment figures downwards.

            Have a read and see whether you think they have proved their point.

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  35. 140
    My Lord Prizeclot, sometime member of t‘Umber, Noo(Progressive)LieBore ignoramus and gourmand says:

    We don’t want no interfering fingers in’t our pies no nor nuffin else wot is ours except t’missus ‘n that gal down t‘road I floted up t’Thames once t’show what filfth floats there anyone gotta pie . . . ? . . . sandwich . . ? . . . patsy . ? . . fwhooor! look at that walkin past! . . here . . hold this willya

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  36. 145
    Nigel S says:

    TUG forelocks presumably or maybe that’s thinking a bit too highly of them.

    Like

    • 155
      Tachybaptus says:

      TUGLaMPs. But when the lamp is tugged, the genie who comes out to fulfil their wish is, unfortunately, the taxpayer.

      Like

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  38. 168
    Jimmy says:

    I thought this was Burley’s pet issue. Did something happen?

    Like

  39. 170
    Xavier Onassis says:

    Cameron will do nowt as usual. No guts!

    Like

  40. 175
    Displaced Brummie says:

    Why? Why are they allowed a vote in this?

    Like


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