Leveson Questions Guido
Lord Justice Leveson has sent Guido’s lawyers some Christmas homework, in his usual charming way he threatens to send yours truly to jail unless he gets answers. Presumably he plans to send the Royal Navy to Wexford Harbour if Guido fails to comply by January 10.
Guido is minded to answer the questions not because he has to, nor because he accepts the jurisdiction of the inquiry, but only because he wants to tell the judge why he thinks his efforts are both a menace to freedom of the press and unnecessary. Piers Morgan and the rest of the celebrity hackers and blaggers without a public interest defence have committed criminal acts under existing laws. There is no need for new laws if the existing criminal laws were fully enforced.
Under the terms of the restriction order Leveson made after Guido published Alastair Campbell’s draft evidence, Guido was restricted from publishing his own last witness statement and this new witness statement. Nothing however stops the publication of Leveson’s questions:
(1) Who you are and a brief summary of your career history;
(2) What material your website “Guido Fawkes” publishes, and Why;
(3) The Inquiry wishes to understand the extent to which your website is based in the UK. Where are your servers located? Do you consider the UK courts to have jurisdiction over the Way in which your website is operated in the UK, and how far does this jurisdiction extend?
(4) How you source stories (there is no need to name individuals) and Where you consider the responsibility for checking sources of information to lie, with you, or with the person who has provided you with the information;
(5) To what extent to which you are aware of the sources of the information which make up the central stories featured on your blog;
(6) The extent to which you consider that ethics can and should play a role in the blogosphere, and what you consider ‘ethics’ to mean in this context;
(7) Do you have any policy which relates to complaints about articles or web pages which are libellous, defamatory or considered to be an invasion of privacy? If not, do you have any relevant practices? Do you ever remove availability to such pages on that basis? The Inquiry would be grateful for some examples of this (anonymised if necessary). Copies of any policies should also be provided.
(8) How do you consider yourself to be regulated?
(9) The Inquiry would also welcome your views on the extent to which the content of Websites, and the manner in which you operate, can be regulated by a domestic system of regulation.
(10) Anything else which you consider will assist the Chairman to arrive at considered conclusions on any aspect of the Terms of Reference, set out above.
Despite the Inquiry paying the legal expenses of all other witnesses except Guido, he is as always willing to be helpful. The gist of the response is “you have no chance of trying to regulate the worldwide web”…
In short: what is this interwebs thingy?
Levyson should sling his hook.
He should explain how his cultural background qualifies him to question or represent the affairs of brits in Britain. Who is Leveson? Who gave him his job? Who pays his wages? Where do his nationalist and religious loyalties really lie?
Has he had a pay rise? Does he obtain his information with threats?
What a bloody good reply.
I wonder whether I will be summoned
The interweb and this site is where WE THE PEOPLE come to find out about people like Leveson, how about he effing well comes here and answers OUR questions?! We do pay his effing wages, after all!
sic.
But there’s no need to humour this tendentious Justice at his own game — even as it’s perfectly clear that his worldview leaves him barely competent to reach any useful conclusion on the deadwood media, never mind the vital virtual hyperreality of the Wild Woolly Web.
As far as I can see, Guido has already presented his skeleton answer: There is no need for new laws if the existing criminal laws were fully enforced.
The rest is mostly puff. I’m sure Guido’s lawyers can see this, but nevertheless I’m happy to offer my services in respect of items (6) and (10). If the good lord wants the meaning of ‘ethics’ he can have about 3 millennia of it from me if he likes. As for (10) the good lord would benefit from some education about logical consistency in thought and action. If the good lord learns well, he may be fit to resume Inquiring in about a couple of years.
I, as a Lord, can speak to these points:
(8) How do you consider yourself to be regulated?
FUCK OFF
(9) The Inquiry would also welcome your views on the extent to which the content of Websites, and the manner in which you operate, can be regulated by a domestic system of regulation.
FUCK OFF
(10) Anything else which you consider will assist the Chairman to arrive at considered conclusions on any aspect of the Terms of Reference, set out above.
FUCK OFF
You should get your silk to DEMAND you get your day at the enquiry. Rent a fine suit and play extracts from the now famous Sky news dildo scene.
This is a pile of fucking shit
Why not request to give evidence by webcam as per that Pies Moron bloke?
No. Fuck off.
And don’t forget to mention dildos.The Beeb loved that.
No this is not the answer. Leveson wants to recommend that the freedom of the press and social media has to be curtailed to help greedy, corrupt politicians who feel upset by the intrusion of the press. The Dowlers, and rest are to help the image of the inquiry that its purpose is serving everyone.
Excellent post! Another question would be, How does an idiot like you get a job like this?
Are you calling Guido an idiot? I thought he was doing rather well with his blog thingy.
Idiot is a pre-requisite for a whitewash and show-trial “judge”.
Shouldn’t he be asking Guido to reveal his Opinion on How many Angels can be placed on the Head of a Pin
Who appointed him to this enquiry?
By a remarkable co-incidence I would like to ask you exactly the same questions – now I have no way of knowing if your answers to me would be different to those you give to Leveson (but I trust you) – also I have no objection either to you answering my questions openly on this thread
Question 9 is unbelievably naive.
He’s a public-sector parasite, and therefore more than a little bit thick.
…and question “(5) To what extent to which you are aware of the sources of the information which make up the central stories featured on your blog;” is a grammatical nonsense, what does he mean?
The general tenor of the questions suggests he already has a conclusion and is looking for reasons to put it out there – sinister and dangerous.
especially as all your stories are fed from the mainstream TV and press!! Let us not smoke our own dope here.
We propose a special anti-hacking panel to protect murdered schoolgirls so nobody can oppose us. Also it will mean no more stories about MPs expenses or the damage done by mass immigr4tion. It will be chaired by Harriet Harperson and composed of a random sampling of society including two Guardian readers, two BBC journalists, a diversity outreach worker, a youth and ethnic outreach worker, a racial awareness co-ordinator, a local communities representative, a representative or radical islam, a trade unions representative, a member of the Green Party and a UN activist.
They will simply check all articles for any hacking, bias or patriotism and remove said defects. Then the article can be published thus preserving the freedom of the Press.
All he will do what he has been ordered to, is advise we have a firewall between us and the rest of the world, just to protect us from those nasty people far away and ourselves, it allows the crap to carry on doing what they do best, lie, steal and cheat the taxpayers
Been out shopping and just seen this:
+1
tell him to f ck off. Jumped-up b*gger
Could you also answer the Question ” Who are the Beatles?” ?
“A ‘here today, gone tomorrow, flash in the pan’ combo group from Liverpool, m’Lud.
And “What is a saxophone?”.
And there is no necessity to provide examples in your reply especially if they concern MPs or celebrities.
@And “What is a saxophone?”.
That is funny. Very. LOL
In short….
Please prepare the case for prosecuting you ….!!!
“Do you consider the UK courts to have jurisdiction over the Way in which your website is operated in the UK” ….
that made me laugh! Assuming Guido did a straight copy/paste of these questions and the glaring repetitions, errors, and perennial proof of how little politicians & establishment bods understand the internet belong with the originator, one has to wonder whether the Way is a Freudian slip… does m’lud have a secret hankering after the free speech he’s been hired to destroy? Let’s face it – personal freedom of speech and expression is already heavily restricted in the UK thanks to our sensitive liberal friends. A vigorous press is one of the last bastions and we should all be appalled at efforts to muzzle it.
Come on, non-muslims reading the koran must be a hate crime…
I’ve read bits of the Koran. It’s fucking depressing. And virtually unreadable. 50% padded out with ‘who can deny this?’, ‘A*l*ah is merciful [comma] kind’. The other 50% is self-referential bollocks.
‘Here, look I tell you, kill your enemies. It is the will of A*l*h. If anybody asks you on whose authority you carry out these actions tell them it is the will of A*l*ah. A*l*ah is merciful [comma] kind [comma] all-knowing [comma] wise.’
And so on and so forth.
Hundreds of pages like that.
Excruciating bollocks.
In a week when a footballer is charged with a criminal offence for calling a black bastard, a black bastard and a Tory MP is skewered, barbecued and also threatened with criminal prosecution for attending a party where one person present was doing a Prince Harry, it will hardly be a surprise if the learned M’lud makes it an an offence to mask you IP address when you e-mail him with photographs of his Lady wife cavorting with an Alsatian.
Andrew Goram was <b<not charged with calling Pierre van Hooijdonk a black bastard this week.
You are thinking of Mixed race Luis Suarez who was done for calling a negrito a negrito but it was the angelic butter would not melt in my mouth Manchester United player who started it and he gets off red-nosed manager free!
it’s somewhere where you can talk freely to people,always nice to have in a free country
‘Why’ Guido, ‘Why’ do you write things!
The man would appear to be an idiot.
No need for ‘appëär’ to appëär in your statement, nor for this peer to appëär.
Why do your es and as appear to have chickenpox? It looks most unappealing!
Black-ï’d pêäs.
The question ‘why’ is beyond Leveson’s paygrade. Its no business of him or anyone in government to ask questions like that unless they have reasonable grounds to suspect it is for a criminal purpose. Where does he think he is? China?
Tell this nasty little man to get back in his box
talking about boxes. Where’s cat.
” Here pussy, pussy “
When Leveson was appointed to chair this commission I suspected that he was yet another appointee selected on the basis of getting the result the appointers wanted.
The behaviour exhibited in relation to Guido confirms my suspicion.
which cat did you have in mind?
Leveson and his nasty little friends want to set up their own blog and want you to tell them how to do it cos they’re too thick to do it themselves.
Figure of Hate says: ‘The man would appear to be an idiot.’
imho the words ‘would appear to be’ should be replaces by ‘IS’.
End of story.
Joking aside, this is an extremely of worrying developments in the executive branch of the state believing they can excise information like this with on pain of imprisonment.
Perhaps time for a documented and entrenched constitution protecting freedom of speech and freedom of association?
Regards,
Tom
Is this not a case of mission creep…
I thought Leveson was looking into papers listening to voicemails…
It has now graduated to web-blogs….
Leveson must be wanting to turn the job into a “Bloody Sunday” enquiry which runs and runs and overruns, but becomed lucrative to the lawyers
Yeah But… It’s ratings will shoot up if he does call Lady Mucca.
“(2) What material your website “Guido Fawkes” publishes, and Why;”
WHY??? WTF! Were these questions put together by a certain bag-piping ex-communications director?
No worse then that, me thinks the gentleman is a lawyer.
Mission creep? We have seen to many creeps before (and running) this enquiry already.
When the ‘sheeples’ in the UK are clamouring to do away with the Human Rights Act and allow Cameron and his public school £millionaire cronies to introduce their ‘Bill of Rights’ whats the betting the man in the street looses and they gain!Just like we lost to the bankers and the big boys get away without paying taxes!
Just like we lost to the bankers
No you silly fucker. That’s the Maximum Imbecile’s BIG Lie. We lost to the one million miracle jobs created out of fresh air in 2001/2. The diversity co-ordinators, the five-a-day, NHS Direct (They could save a fortune by just putting out a recorded message – make an appointment with your doctor), the smoking compliance officers, the environmental co-oprdinators.
The one million c*unts recruited fresh out off some shit made-up course at 21 to make good on their ‘education, education and education’ boast. Hidden in council offices, hospital corner offices, Scottish-this, Welsh-that the length and breadth of marginal constituencies. Their pockets stuffed with gold and let loose on the housing ma*rk*et.
We lost to the liars who peddled their lies and gave us a war in Iraq and a ‘miracle’ economy perched on nothing more than one million newly minted state employees and an ocean of borrowed cash.
It’s like Gordo Brown needed a vast increase in debt to cover up Britains economic collapse…
Not to mention the thousands of immigr*tion officers and asylum industry deadbeats hired to work on the problem their loony tune laws created.
Well said that man, again.
Trouble is that the BBBC peddle this evil banker crap morning, noon and night and many portions of society have fallen for it.
The economic collapse of the country is down to one man:
James Gordon Brown.
The world was a nicer place before the Human Rights Act. Whether this is causal or correlation I couldn’t confirm.
Perhaps you could call it the ‘pampered law-breaker’ act, the ‘legal retirement fund’.
Now strictly on a technicality, but I do believe the ‘man in the street’ is being effed in the A more by the public sector than by any failed bank. Public sector debt is far larger than any ‘financial crisis’.
” Human Rights Act.”
I disagree. The HRA is the only protection we have against the state.
It gets a bad press, but without it, Parliamentary Supremacy in the UK makes the government (effectively) an elected dictatorship.
Not my words, Lord Denning’s.
Regards,
Tom
Leveson is showing how unsuitable he is to run this inquiry. He allowed the brother of the recently deceased Sean Hoare to give evidence on the dead hack’s behalf! If this was a court of law Leveson would be laughed off the Bench.
Jesus Christ! Accepting as fact something that was supposedly told to his brother by a drunken, drug taker who’s recently snuffed it.
Leveson and his inquiry mouthpiece Duff (what an appropriate name for a lawyer who couldn’t get a cough from a wheezing bronchitic with tuberculosis) are bringing the legal profession – and the law – into further disrepute. How much more farcical can this inquiry become?
I must have been having a senior moment. Of course, the inquiry mouthpiece is called JAY. What I said about his uselessness still applies, though.
As examples of the bloggs comments, why not send him a list of all the profanities to be found on here including p@ki, ni99er ….and the rest.
Q: (2) What material your website “Guido Fawkes” publishes, and Why;
A: What: Everything we type
Why: Because we have Tourettes.
Why? Because we’re fucking demented with fury by the actions of politicians – particularly the Maximum Imbecile and his economy-destroying 13 years of weapons-grade fuckwitterey. Your Honour.
All Rise.
Let’s send him questions….
Why did you do NOTHING to stop the maximum imbeciles destruction of this country?
Guido MUST say this to Leveson.
Genius.
(2) What material your website “Guido Fawkes” publishes, and Why;
Perhaps ‘Why’ would be better answered:
Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights:
Article 10 – Freedom of expression
1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers. This article shall not prevent States from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema enterprises.
2. The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.
or even:
‘I can’t give evidence, there’s a Court Restriction on what I was going to say’.
…………and while you’re at it Lord L, put the bbc in a proper court of law, not a kangaroo one, for peddling treason against this country each and every day.
If you forcefully undermine someone’s identity, they will come after you. Human nature.
A polite suggestion to Lord Justice Leveson.
You could find answers to most of your questions by clicking the ‘About’ link at the top of Guido’s homepage.
No charge. I’m feeling generous since it’s nearly Christmas.
What do you mean by ‘click’?
Ask the work-experience girl. She’ll show you how. With the computer as well, probably.
Q: “What do you mean by ‘click’?”
A: I only know of the word “clique”.
Guido, send him a hard copy of all threads and comments since Sept 2004. That should be of immense help.
Very good idea. Don’t forget to send the stupid man this one.
Invoice him £1.50 a page for the printing, with an extra £2 a page for paginating the bundle and £5000 an hour for the timewasting.
Oh crap. For the purposes of these threads, I am resident in… er…. Andorra.
suppose leadership comes with responsibility and great leadership with great….
Well Levison did not have much to say when the toad Morgan brazenly refused to answer when asked who told him about phone hacking.
Why don’t you just tell the arrogant prick Levison that you will base your answers on the same criteria which he afforded the slime bag Morgan. In other words ” go stuff yourself.”
Arkell and Pressdram time.
Your’e going to get your just deserts Fawkes. Brother Leveson is one of us and the Grand Master has primed him to fix you and your vile website. You will regret printing those scurrilous true stories about my private life. Boaz.
Well said Brother Handycock. Brother Leveson has indeed been briefed by me and is about to wreak revenge on this vile Fawkes for all the opprobrium he has heaped on fellow Brothers, especially your Honourable Brothers in the House. Jahbulon.
Lord Leveson is truly the widow’s son. Boaz.
++Sigh++ Someone tell me again how many £milllions the leveson inquiry is costing us!!
What a bunch of indolent, incompetent, time-wasting meeting-attenders. The public sector in a nutshell.
Tell them to f*ck off Guido.
“(1) Who you are and a brief summary of your career history;”
Try Wikipedia.
“(2) What material your website “Guido Fawkes” publishes, and Why;”
Try looking at it.
“(3) The Inquiry wishes to understand the extent to which your website is based in the UK. Where are your servers located?”
tracert?
Levyson could ask his Moss-ad handlers all these things and get much more detailed answers.
Haha, the servers are wrapped in tin-foil to stop you mind controlling them.
Funnily enough Leveson is a devout fan of the place which must hold the world record in telephone tapping…!
Hear, hear…dont indulge them.
The first response should be to ask Mr Leveson why he needs to know these things; what is he going to do with the information?
Otherwise, I’d given perfunctory answers; why should you waste your time, Guido, on such trivialities. Oh, and ask him, as a precondition, to raise the ban he has imposed on you regarding publicising information on issues that you mention above.
Or you you could try the ‘Piers’ technique:
Cocklecarrot: What is the material your website “Guido Fawkes” publishes, and Why?
Fawkes: I honestly can’t remember.
Great to see a reference to the immortal Mr. Justice Cocklecarrot. Wasn’t he formerly resident of the Cape Times (or was it a Jo’burg paper?)
Or, better yet, Guido coud simply refer him (and/or his lawyers) to “Arkell v Pressram”.
That would save everybody’s time and effort.
* Pressdram
Well, they’re trying to make savings by not paying Guido’s expenses. (They’ve probably spent it on the works Christmas do instead, if the truth be known.)
Should we start a Guido support fund to not pay his expenses too?
Bugger that! How much will it cots for Mrs Fawkes to detain him in the marital bed for all of St Patrick’s Day in 2012? She can cope, I hope, but how would we deal with all of that naked flesh?
Well nell, we have Tom Fatboy Watson to thank for all this. Where is he by the way? Probably trying to patch up his marriage!
One question for Guido, when is this odious, jumped up, pompous little piece of *!%^ going to get his comeuppance?
Excellent! Your participation essential & I am sure will be refreshing in its clarity and fearlessness.
Unpleasant odour around legal expenses issue.
Ignoring the usual pointless posts here’s a contribution I’d like to make: Guido, having watched your appearance at the Inquiry the thing I found particularly frustrating was the fact that it is evident that those trying to regulate the media have absolutely no understanding of the internet, relying on octogenarians to understand the scope of their own limitations in this regard seems to me to be a generational problem.
The problem is as follows:
British jurisdiction is not universal, the internet is, there is a clear way to circumvent any and all British libel/injunction rulings by basing servers in the US (or 200 other foreign jurisdictions) and simply remaining anonymous.
The thing that terrifies me is that I have a bad feeling they might actually try to use the recent file-sharing test (newzbin) case as a vector to pursue the ISP’s of blogs for publishing content in violation of our arcane libel laws – i.e. for the first time we may actually end up with a system that seeks to (like the PRC) actively target the distributor much in the same way as happened with Radio Caroline.
Now the good news is that this is ineffective, VPN’s and TOR will always provide a degree of safe harbour for netizens but the implications are enormous for free speech itself, I have a really bad feeling this is the way things will go, and again it will happen because:
The inquiry does not understand the technical difference between physical broadcast in sovereign territory (a pirate radio station for example) and the internet, and just as the UK has no powers (that I know of) to regulate the US media so it will be just as ineffective at regulating UK blogs that sensibly decide to base themselves outside the remit of UK courts.
So what we might end up with is a system whereby it falls on the ISP’s to “ban” sites from public display, to stop the major search providers from listing them, effectively cutting them off from their UK audience.
Circumventions are obvious but it does raise the spectre of a “regulated space” for “free speech” that like the dead-tree-press and TV networks is sanitised by ofcom, which basically ends up with the Chinese system of selectively firewalling dissenting views, or at least those that publish information that circulates rumours or stories that rely on leaks etc.
Australia gave this a go and while it seemed to die on its arse that was more as a result of technical incompetence, in the UK it will be ISP blocking and Search delisting, used after “consistent violation”, this is about to hit P2P in a big way over the next couple of years and mark my words this is the way things will go on the blogosphere too, the implications are enormous.
There urgently needs to be a basic “First Amendment” equivalent, as we have seen over the last two decades what is regarded as “free speech” is being selectively whittled away to “polite and constructive discourse” that already see those, for example, who are seen to be “causing harassment, alarm or distress” brought before the courts – the problem with this is that very often causing alarm and distress is essential, one should not have to qualify what is said or printed by a judges ruling (recent scientology protest arrest) to be protected by the legal system.
The bottom line is that freedom of speech is being eroded, thankfully the only thing saving the internet is the technical difficulty of regulating it, I want a society where we all have a right to be offended, slandered and gossiped about, because I see that as far better outcome than a society in which we steadily drift towards the Chinese version of “free speech”.
But do you expect Leveson to realise any of this? I don’t, not for a second, I expect more ill-judged regulation that will only as a result of technical incompetence prove ineffective at regulating bloggers and social media in to the same honky-tonk “freedom” that we rightly castigate oppressive regimes for espousing.
http://www.nellnewman.blogspot.com/
I suspect leveson would be better off investigating the pros and cons of euthanasia rather than ways to restrict the freedom of the press.
Similar visit to my son, who said he was not disabled and walked 28 miles every week. They believed him would not catch our eye or listen to us out of his earshot.
He is brain damaged!
At least Guido has provided a forum which takes public pot shots at these councillors, officious officials, mp’s and HoL troughers who look after their own interests at great expense to us and ignore the welfare of the country.
We have to hope that leveson can never shut down such voices with legislation.
PS nice article
PPS I too like to cook and made a batch lovely mince pies last night. No suet; less sugar in the pastry…delicious. Have bought a syringe ti inject my turkey with clarified butter, and Christmas pudding ice cream for after.
Guido, you can confuse Leveson by sending him a copy of this.
+++Laugh+++
Wonder what those Oxford professor types who researched Guido’s blog this year for the lefties and concluded its commenters were ‘predominantly aggressive’ would make of us?!
Did you get the syringe second-hand, from Sarah?
Syringe?
That reminds me: On Leveson’s birth certificate, ‘Father’s Occupation’ is given as ‘Turkey Baster’
He must have used it on Leveson’s mother to produce the turkey heading the inquiry.
I’ve read your blog Nell, then re-read it. The story of your struggle to help your mum was heart breaking, but all too common nowadays.
I have first hand knowledge of the way these mainly useless Social Workers operate, as I work in the NHS, and the way you overcame the obstacles thrown in your way was heart warming.
I wish you, your mum, and all your family a blessed Christmas and a wonderful New Year.
‘yer he’s picking your brains !
puddleduck
“Who are you…?”
Where the fuck has he been the last few years? If he doesn’t know who you are by now then I really do fear for this inquiry. Just tell the fucker to read the “About” section on your site.
Or is he too lazy to even do that?
“”Lord Justice Leveson has sent Guido’s lawyers some Christmas homework, in his usual charming way he threatens to send yours truly to jail unless he gets answers. Presumably he plans to send the Royal Navy to Wexford Harbour if Guido fails to comply by January 10.”"
Send him a note Guido saying “Due to the holiday period, my office is shut until January 10th. I will respond to your note in mid January”
Oh …. and your charge for answering these questions is £200 per hour + vat. It’s after all around what the lawyers charge
Which bugger is undercutting me? £200 per hour plus VAT! How are you supposed to maintain a decent coke habit on that?
Come on, name names as we can’t have this price based competition mularkey going on.
‘Please re-frame your questions such that they are capable of being answered either ‘yes’ or ‘no’.’
or a tick box
I wouldn’t get out of bed for only £200 + VAT per hour.
I bet Jay is on a daily referesher fee of £2500 + VAT plus a fat brief fee up front of £25,000 minimum
Jonathan Sumption QC was allegedly paid a £5m brief fee to defend Abramovich in the High Court . His elevation to the Judiciary was delayed so he could deal with the case.
plus several ‘refreshers’
You could remind Leveson that, in 1940s Germany, it was an offence to listen to a “foreign” radio station, punishable by imprisonment or even death under aggravating circumstances (admittedly very rare). It didn’t stop the majority of the German people from listening to the BBC under a blanket or with headphones… nearly every household had a radio. This was partly because Germans didn’t believe their own “strategic withdrawal” propaganda as the war progressed, but also because the BBC broadcast names of captured prisoners-of-war, useful to families of those “missing”. So attempts to control information are futile, even under the most repressive circumstances.
Good point. The whole establishment in the Disunited Kingdom need to stop standing democracy, sovereignty and the rule of law upside down on its head. Then they wouldn’t need to get their little feelings hurt by the bloggers.
Who are you suggesting Guido should take as a prisoner?
Where do you think the TV li*c*en*ce came about? It was a natural progression from the radio li*ce*nce. Can’t have people listening to any old Tom, Dick and Ivan don’t you know.
Thank you for the reminder that the BBC has been a propaganda machine since its inception. With no obvious external enemy to fight, it seems to have turned its guns against ourselves.
The purpose of the bbc was for Brits to be loved abroad.
That may be true for the World Service. Its domestic agenda seems less straightforward.
The left and the Beeb is about love.. Lovely humanity and all that ….The right is about respect…individuality and all that great stuff…
Coincidently times have changed and it not possible nowadays to gain at the expense of other…. not since 1st of Jan ’08 anyway.
Here is the template for big society 2.0 i.e small communities 1.0.
order-order.com resolves to 74.200.247.61 (Changed from 76.74.254.121)
The servers are in the USA
I think Guido has never made a secret of the fact that his servers are located in the Caribbean (unless of course he is double-crossing us!).
Have a happy, and interesting Christmas, Guido.
This man, Leveson can’t be very bright can he? I mean, apart from using his position to bully, he really hasn’t a clue of how the Internet works.
But then, he is no different to any other Member of Parliament. I mean you only have to look at the state of the country, the state of the financial sector, the state of education, they do not have the intelligency to run the country. The UL organisation larger than any collection of corporates in the UK and larger than the City’s financial sector.
It is no wonder the country, the EU, the US are all in such a mess, with idiots at the control.
If we employ a Prime Minister who earns £150,000 a year, what the hell can we expect?
I think we should offer a hundred million pounds to parliament, collectively, if they double the countries wealth in their five years, they might work more for the benefit of the country. And, if we double the countries wealth, a hundred million would be chicken-feed.
If fools are allowed to govern and lead all you will ever get is extreme foolishness..!
No it wouldnt, have you learned nothing ? All they would do was spin the stats to make it appear the countries wealth had doubled.
The PM’s salary needs only to be a token amount: the attraction of the position arises from the status and contacts which it affords.
Positions on the boards of various companies which have been ‘helped’ during their term in office are guaranteed and are best thought of as a kind of ‘deferred consideration’ to the PM.
Pay them any more and people would think they were only in it for the money, rather than some higher goal. That said, the suggestion in your final paragraph is excellent – and might concentrate their minds wonderfully.
With that inducement, the Maximum Imbecile would have doubled the countries ‘wealth’ in five seconds.
Set printers to MAX!
To whom should I send my invoice for a ruined keyboard?
Offering them a hundred million will get them meddling in the market even more. Better to offer them a bonus for every law and regulation that they repeal.
“The gist of the response is “you have no chance of trying to regulate the worldwide web”…”
Hopefulkly expressed as “F*** off!”
Tell him to fuck off Guido.
Publish your witness statements.
hutton, chilcott and leveson. Talking shops costing us £millions and never anything honest or worthwhile coming out of them.
seconded
They really shouldn’t have appointed someone who is obviously struggling to understand how a brass-rubbing works.
Duh, just realized – was deliberate, wasn’t it?
… which raises the question” Who advised Camoron to pick him?”
Guido…
You could always email your statement to hundreds of friends, lawyers, press folk and Old Holborn….
for ahem, advice and assistance….
and then feign complete surprise when it appears on the net…
or has this been done before ?
Glad he asked Guido , now you have the opportunity to educate the guy. Mind you its pretty obvious how you operate, (and thank God you do as without you we would be ignorant of what the so called elite are up to). Why wont he pay YOUR legal expenses? Sounds like discrimination to me!
The establishment discriminating against Guido? Oh surely not!
Guess they don’t like being continuously exposed for the corrupt self-seeking ‘elite’ that they are. Keep up the good work Guido.
That’s a good point, Guido. I’d have thought that your legal eagles would have a whale of a time if you are the only witness who has been denied legal costs.
Is it because he’s Irish?
If I did or made something for somebody and they refused to pay up first time, they would not get a second opportunity to refuse. Guido is on solid ground to tell the “lawyers” or whoever is drafting their questions to”go away” and stop wasting his time.
Can’t you say you don’t remember and blame Heather McCartney?
Yes — “to the best of my belief”, “as far as I know”, etc., etc.
I think you should begin by giving the Inquiry your full name.
Answer to Q 2 should be “see http://www.order-order.com” – it will save you racking up hefty legal bills that the silly arse wont re-imburse
Lord Justice Leveson knows full well who you are and what you do – for he is Billy Bowdon and I claim me fiver
My preference is that this website must henceforth be legally bound to exclude all of the millions of anecdotes about the ineptitude of Liebour’s Red Ed and E.Balls.
I want to suppress all the exposes of the Reign of Terror 1997-2010 and if possible to have the archives ‘re-edited’ and ‘sanitised’.
This blog needs an unbiased censor like me or Harridan Harmanhater to look over all posts before they are released into the blogosphere.
Excellent idea – but I think the majority of us here would actually prefer to see you tightly bound and chucked off Westminster Bridge at high tide.
Make that “low tide”.
The mainstream media and the duplicitious, spinning, devious control freaks that brief them are running scared.
They don’t like their little “I’ll scratch my back if you scratch mine” cartel being exposed for what it is; a select club that encourages the proles to be more concerned about Simon Cowell’s latest musical cannon fodder than exposing individual freedoms and the well being of people being eroded by ever increasing regulation and control by our “glorious leaders”.
Blogging and widespread access to the internet undermines their perceived authority of reporting the news. “They” have no authority, the mainstream news is, to use a popular phrase, a turd that is rolled in glitter before being offered up to the proles as journalism and fact.
Slainte
Use my ‘defence’and say you can only remember 5% of what happens.
Such an elegant way of encouraging co-operation by threatening
to imprison.
Guido, were you shown the instruments of torture before receiving the questions?
You mean being locked in a room and forced to listen to Ed Milliontwit’s speeches?
Just shows how out of touch and up their own backsides Westminster and its ‘establishment’ is.
Authoritarian verging on fascist, free marketeers ….. yet still the English vote for them in their red or blue guise by the bucket full.
Bizzare! The self same authoritarian free market principles which Guido espouses are being used to try and shut him up …. surely the ultimate irony.
Mad Jock,
Authoritarianism is undermined by free markets. That is all.
Don’t be too harsh Guido – lefties usually confuse ‘free markets’ with ‘corporatism’.
Mad Jock – read Adam Smith, you clueless twat.
MadJock – you are Jimmy, and I claim my £5
If Guido upset Mr Justice Leveson and was sent to the Tower for three months, he would not have to run around Smith Square in his buff on St Patrick’s Day. The nation would be spared…
Yes, I too have a problem with that vision.
Perhaps, Guido could deliver his response naked.
Guido
Leveson has been set up to cometo the view that media/bloggers need regulated, as shown by Order-Order Moderater Leveson himself.
Of course it wont work, but at least it show them trying to do “Something”.
leveson is all about how to stop criticism of the ‘elite’
For once I think they will find themselves neutered by the WWW.
Oh! So nothing to do with ediitors behaving badly then? When did the terms of reference change?
Not being funny but where’s Billy?
E x
behind you.
I’m going to get my ring stretched this afternoon (my wedding ring which after 22 years appears to have shrunk as it is now far too tight)
I’m going to get my ring stretched this afternoon (my wedding ring which after 22 years appe@rs to have shrunk as it is now far too tight)
Bugger – caught by the latent green veg again
Shit you got in before me.
I was getting worried.
E x
tell the old f@rt to sling his hook.
its obvious they are running scared of the tabloids YET need to be seen to do something and my money is on Guido suffering the same fate as his historical name sake.
Control freaks labour might be out of the equation right now but this heralds the start of an attempt to internal policing/firewalling off the UK from external access to the interweb and the stories that our lords and masters deem too embarrassing for themselves.
i suggest that you remind him that the very best way of having something read is to try to suppress it.
It is a tribute to this site that the powers-that-be are so patently terrified of it.
“Guido is minded…….were fully enforced.” Don’t be silly. Following from yesterdays’ imbroglio, you will not be able to give an opinion, only evidence. If Sue, Grabbit and Run, can give you a form of words to turn opinion into evidence, the results could makes things interesting for a lot of people. that’s not what Leveson is about.
The Inquiry would also welcome your views on the extent to which the content of Websites, and the manner in which you operate, can be regulated by a domestic system of regulation.
You might better spend you time trying to regulate the time the tide comes in.
Leveson is a silly Cnut.
A dim judge from Scouseland, quite odd
Who failed to bring justice to Dodd
Though unqualified
He does well to hide
His dementia, the silly old sod.
-e^(i*pi)
Very good!
My imaginary friend is in there somewhere.
‘in his usual charming way he threatens to send yours truly to jail unless he gets answers’
Most communications I get from authority do. Census forms. Voter registration. Motor/parking fines…
As a matter of interest, did it arrive by second class post with ‘Proof of posting IS proof enough for us, but when you reply it better be fully registered as, well, we can be illogical, hypocritical twats because, well, [Dredd voice] ‘We.. are.. der lawwwww!]’?
Drokk!
Tell him to Piss Off
Will you be taking Billy with you for moral support ?
The questions raise some very important questions viz:
Which subject is this meant to an examination in?
How many questions should be attempted and what is the time limit?
Which examining board set the questions?
Were you aboe to get advance notice of the questions because your teacher’s made the correct payment?
Bugger the curse of the rougue apostrophe – teachers!
Bugger typo – able
Bugger! Rogue. Unless the apostrophe is French and red, in which case it’s rouge.
I think that a reply referring to the precedent set in Arkell v Pressdram would ahve been appropriate.
Bugger ‘have’
Perhaps this would do it.
(1) Read the website
(2) Read the website
(3) Check the IP address
(4) Depends
(5) Sometimes we are sometimes we’re not
(6) This isn’t the BBC
(7) Sometimes we do, sometimes we don’t
(8) Mrs Fawkes
(9) Google “super-injunction”
(10) Morgan lied through his teeth
Do you consider the UK courts to have jurisdiction over the Way in which your website is operated in the UK, and how far does this jurisdiction extend?
What a stupid question. That is for the courts to decide, not Guido.
No, UK courts are under jurisdiction of EU. EU has no jurisdiction over www.
You can see it coming down the pipe can’t you. Interweb censorship. C**ts.
I can see them trying. Doubt they’ll succeed.
Some of those questions appear to require a legal view, so if the inquiry is not paying appropriate expenses then it cannot expect an answer. In Scotland, the Cadder ruling arose from lack of legal representation and has opened the appeal floodgates.
If we had ethics in public life, then we would not need ethics in the blogosphere….
The most invidious question is at the end of this one:
(2) What material your website “Guido Fawkes” publishes, and Why;
What grounds does he have to ask Why?
Did he ask any other of the newspaper publishers why they publish?
Did he ask Steve Coogan or Sienna Miller why they acted?
Did he ask Charlotte Church why she sang?
Did he ask Gerry McCann why he tried to find his daughter?
Did he ask, heaven forbid, why Mark Thomson should be a lawyer?
Perhaps the best answer to that part of the question would be Because this is the United Kingdom and not North Korea
Does that mean I can stop crying about the death of the Dear Leader – being in the United Kingdom and not North Korea?
The real sadness (and threat) comes from the repeated mantra of the many who insist that they want to maintain a ‘free press’ which is of course a ‘free press’ of their choosing. The potential ugly outcome of Leveson is that attempts will be made to silence the ‘free press’ of minorities. Therein lies the danger to us all.
It’s like the unutterable arseholes who say: “I believe in free speech, but …”, the “but”, of course, negating the first part of their statement.
A complete Schama.
If you close your eyes while Schama’s droning on, it is very like Dale Winton doing a sort of historical “Supermarket Sweep”.
Unfortunately, this image has stayed with me ever since I heard the prick, so I find myself unable to take anything he says seriously.
Agree. Nothing very Rapide about him.
The problem with appeasing people is that they are always back for more. This is what is happening here, Guido — you buckled to threats last time (at least, so he thinks), so he’s trying it on again.
I think this time you have to tell him to get stuffed, just to establish the point.
The new regiem in Korea could make a fortune here.
Web Servers R Us
‘anonymised’, is that a word?
Yes.
As you point out, existing laws should be enforced to prevent the practice of accessing private information! Why the extravagance of a public enquiry. I couldn’t give a toss about the odious oik that appeared yesterday, nor Malcolm Tucker* (snork) who leaked his own evidence then expressed surprise on how it was covered on the web!
Collusion at the highest level will see this descend into the usual patten of enquiries:
1 Enthusiasm
2 Disillusionment
3 Panic
4 Search for the guilty
5 Punishment of the innocent
6 Reward of the non-participants
* On second thoughts Malcolm Tucker is a more believable character!
Ahem, you publish the (immensely polite) questions, which are identical in spirit to those being asked of people far more famous than you. Since they will be the basis of the eventual report, it is not unreasonable formally to ask each who they are and what they do. There is no significance in asking questions about you for the record. We have all seen what a complete prat Piers Morgan made of himself yesterday. There is an oppotunity for you show more dignity and intelligence, and to make a case for the valuable work that you do.
Yet, significantly, you do not publish the wording of the threat to throw you in chokey. Why is that? Surely that would be far more amusing for the knuckle-dragging element of your readership, laying his Lordship open to deserved mockery.
You have been a tremendous force for good, exposing much of the chicanery and hypocrisy of both politics and the media. The Leveson Inquiry is surely working the same side of the street as you and, while I could understand your reluctance to put yourself in any real danger of arrest, I can’t believe that answering the questions would do anything but good in throwing long-delayed sunlight on general naughtiness. Or do you see the Inquiry as encroaching on your territory?
There is a question over which side of the street Leveson is working on. Is he aiming to uphold the freedom of the Press and free speech, or to act for some in the ‘establishment’ who would prefer less scrutiny of their (sometimes) less than honourable activities, both personal and political?
From my point of view as an ordinary, patriotic, British subject with no political affiliations, no strong political beliefs and no journalistic attachments whatever, I think freedom of speech to be vitally important to hold those in power to account. Basically, that’s what Guido does. More power to his elbow, even if I don’t always agree with his opinions.
I think its a great trick to make out that this is a street.
Or a stick. On one end theres freedom of the press, on the other end politicians hiding what they are up to and getting away with whatever they like.
Its almost as if the most important thing for the press to do is protect its right to run easy sensational stories about celebs or murders – and they then claim that they’re the ones that do the important stories about politicians. When they don’t.
Its serious journalists that are important. the ones who dont care what comedians and actors do with their cocks.
I mean. people who go on tele pretending to be something they aren’t? You know steve coogan isn’t from norwich at all.
Say it ain’t so? I had him down as a close cousin.
When he first turned up on TV he made out he hated students. He was one.
Whereas Aaron Porter …..
You were not highly regarded by Alexander the Grate, were you?
You can’t remember your moniker. I clearly can’t even spell mine. Typed in a hurry, which is never a good idea.
Sorry but my response has to be by way of reprise:
I can remember my moniker, its Can’t remember my moniker.
… and here was me thinking that you were perhaps Aristander’s more, ahem, “Corinthian” twin brother!
Agree. The flawed moniker did kick off with a rather pederastic ring to it.
“The Leveson Inquiry is surely working the same side of the street as you”
Ah ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, really? Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, you have no clue at all do you?
Don’t mock people trying to earn a living. It’s tough our there on Grub Street
“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
- Voltaire
I agree with Voltaire (until the shit hits the fan, then I’ll hide).
This arsehole Leveson is just another patsy like Hutton
If Leveson does a Hutton, the fubar merely carries on. But if Leveson does a Bichard, expect tarfu.
Just tell him to fuck off !
Oh… and dont forget to point out that your creation was as a direct result for the need for a MSM outlet to counter the corrupt biased up their arses reportig that we are fed by the BBC et al
+1
“Leveson, fuck off you stupid cunt” is, I believe, the apt response.
If Piers can say that he won’t do anything to reveal his sources, you can say the same Guido. Also isn’t it funny that Leveson will allow Hugh Grant to ramble on about what ‘people he has spoken to’ say (isn’t that hearsay, not testimony?) but menaces you with threats of prison, whilst not paying your expenses? Why is that allowed?
It appears to represent a very long winded way to admit to being a moron.
Does he read the newspapers ?
Is he aware of the internet ?
Has he ever been into a pub and chatted with friends (an explanation can be provided with suitable illustrations) and has he any clue as to how that is regulated ?
Probably the most crass and self-illuminating set of questions a police state could devise ?
By the way – when did you last see your father ? (laughably appropriate methinks).
For a High Court judge, his grammar is curious. Other than a few blatant typos, the random Scattering of roGue capital letters is rather jarring. He tries hard to be down with the kids with words like “blogosphere”, but displays the usual judicial lack of touch with society elsewhere.
And if your answer to “How do you consider yourself to be regulated?” is not “by the law of the land”, I shall want to know the reason why…
Which land, though?
Common land?
Regulated – By a combination of the law of the land AND the market.
Mr Grant. Question 2
What the fuck possessed you to make ‘Mickey Blue eyes’
was it
a For the money
b For the Art
c For the sex?
Exactly.
Mr Grant. Question 1 (and the only question):
Surely you have enough money – can’t you stop acting the same part over and over again and boring the shit out of the rest of us?
Well um fuck fuck the thing, the thing is well erm you see, well no.
Quick! Stick him in a Fabricant wig and sign him for the Life and Loves of Boris Johnson.
Guido , are you intending to compile your statement alone or will you be circulating it to numeroys Journalists , MPs and other associates for their views ?
Give it to me. I’ll ‘jazz’ it up……
Crowd sourcing is good.
Guido, perhaps an opportunity for a compitition, the wittiest question to put to Lord Leveson?
Oh, and perhaps this is for another day, but is it true that the only person in modern times to have died in suspicious circumstances in the UK and not had their final hours fully examined by a coroner is (cue drum roll) Dr David Kelly? It says so in the Daily Mail so it must be true…..!!!!!! Could someone start one of those government petition thingys that are so successful?
From what I have seen of the Leveson Inquiry it is a WASTE of PUBLIC MONEY.
Well done Guido.
Now seeing as you are not allowed to publish your answers to the questions, can I suggest you do it the other way round and let us your readers decide what your answers should be ?
Some kind of poll , highest vote count would be the answer you give to leveson.
How democratic that would make it
Democracy! What a hoot.
Can we all sit about in some tents while we do this? Or how about a pub?
Suit yerself mate, its a free world after all
I thought it was a small world after all. Who freed it?
Satan.
Guido, you really M U S T enclose a copy of this thread to help Leveson understand the concept.
P L E A S E !!!
Hunt Blimey!!
See 133…Great minds
Tell Leveson to fuck off. Who does he think he is? What a fucking waste of time.
To give an idea of the intellect of this inquiry is that they continually use the term ‘phone hacking’, when not one phone has been shown to be hacked. Plenty of voicemails but no phones.
Its like complaining someone has been reading your letter box, when actually they have been steaming opne your letters.
never mind steaming them open, the envelopes werent stuck down
Some of them were postcards
Fawkes, just remember you owe me one , keep your trap shut and dont fire me in.
is it illegal to take the piss out of Gordon Brown?
Yes, it’s the one thing he can do for himself.
I thought he had Nurse Botha and her catheter for that?
Oh Dear,* I was making such good progress*, oh well back to chasing the postman on his biycycle shoutin..ITS ALL YOUR FAULT
It appears that this clown Leveson has got himself mixed up with Griffiths-Jones and the Chatterley Trial. Next he’ll be asking whether order-order is a website we would want our wives or servants to visit.
The man’s a complete fool, as evidenced also by the way that the oleaginous Morgan managed to bamboozle and lie his way out of the very light toasting he received. Racks and branding irons to extract a full confession, followed by exile to North Korea is the only way to deal with Piers.
Just send him a link to the ‘about’ section of your website then tell him to fuck off.
So Ed’s favourite sports, according to a far reaching interview with the Mirror, are Baseball and American Football.
He really is a jerk. He should do a Gordon and pretend he likes his local club
A real man of the people – but with those sports not the British people
It is possible he is telling the truth. He is not from round here, after all
Clearly the wife doesnt want the ugly oik in bed with her, so he watches them at night on tv in the living troom.
Don’t they each live in separate homes all the time anyway? That, at least, is what their multiple second home allowance/troughing claims would seem to indicate.
Hey this Leveson thing is getting a bit boring, isn’t it?
Since it is Christmas, why don’t we offer to revamp his show for him? The least we could do to show our appreciation.
A sort of Leveson – X-Factor style.
Can anyone come up with a better name to start it off?
Vile Query In Nos.
FCOL.. it’s an anagram. geddit?
This is order-order.com, not freaking Mastermind.
Now there’s an idea for Billy’s specialist subject.
Oh God!
They would have to let him win that too in order to get some peace and quiet.
I only said
Oh God!
They would have to let him win that too in order to get some pеace and quiet.
I forgot that pesky pеa.
Novel yin, squire !
Stars in our eyes !
The Smoke and Mirrors Show
‘Piss and Wind’
Stars And Their Lies
Each contestant will be given a witness to impersonate, and viewers can vote for their favourite interpretation of such classics as:
Hugh Grant – Don’t Let The Sun Get Divine Brown On Me
Alistair Campbell – Tell Me Lies
Piers Morgan – Memories (Ain’t what they used to be).
Kate and Gerry McCann – Bring Your Daughter (Iron Maiden).
I reckon it’s a winner, with the catchphrase “Today, Brian, I shall mostly be lying through my teeth”.
Wicked.
“(6) The extent to which you consider that ethics can and should play a role in the blogosphere…….”
Who put you in charge/made you responsible for the whole blogoshpere ?
Should he answer for the activities of the Witchfinder General ?
Members of the blogosphere are diverse in both character and situation, representing diverse political views, and some, under severely repressive dictatorial regimes. How can any one person attempt to answer for all of them ?
The person who devised these questions should know better than to put such silliness in writing.
Please let tham know that as much loved as you are, you do not have our agreement to speak on our behalf in answer to that question
Has Johan got a new job?
…and Why?
Unfortunately, I can answer that question
It’s still fixable – one frigging line of code to comment out, and then Paul can ban pea all he likes, without appearing to affect European, or leaving unsightly Staines on the blog.
With no prіce to pay.
No busfare no show.
“he threatens to send yours truly to jail unless he gets answers.”
So after yesterday is Moron having bird for Christmas? Thought not
Could you please oblige and include the following in your statement
1 Wtf is Billy Bowden ?
2 Is he getting paid the minimum wage ?
3 Have you ever seen jgm2 , The Paragnostic and Schrodingers cat in the same room together ?
4 Why does Nell only appear after dark ?
5 Have Rich and Mark ever produced a funny cartoon ?
6 Where have you buried Tat ?
Thank you
Send him a T Shirt Guido.
Explain that pre or post dated postal entries for either Rich and Mark’s cartoon or the Friday caption competition are not usually acceptable but you make this an exception to the rule, since supporting the mentally handicapped has always been your forte in life.
Tell him that if he wishes to participate further on the Glenfiddich, Jura or Vodka front then a clear explanation to take the 5th on offer must be forthcoming via the usual comment box.
The guys a fecking eejit.
We don’t like things we can’t sue. Explain yourself, boy (and it better be good).
It’s the right thing to do.
It started in America
Leveson should remember the man who made a fool of him.
169 comments – ohhhhhhh! Get you!
Meanwhile, Hipwell is calling Piers Moron a liar.
What they should do is have an amnesty for all the hacks and private investigators who carried out illegal activity on behalf of newspapers, otherwise the only people prepared to talk about it will be the ones who have already served time. Then we might actually find out what happened and who did it.
Leveson or Leave-this-sham that is the question, mmm… your honour
We maybe can’t regulate the WWW, but it won’t stop us trying
Answers a la Morgan
1. Broke
2. Shite, because it sticks
3. Abroad. None
4. Tips
5. Can’t answer without…
6. None. See John Locke
7. No
8. I don’t
9. Impossible
10. Take my advice.
Leveson is just being used as a patsy in the ongoing attempt to control the web. There is always a worthy sounding pretext and the process is being carried out little by little. They are aiming for a an online version of radio 4.
Small yet vocal groups who complain about “offense” are particularly useful in supplying pretexts which are eagerly seized upon.
The Reichstag Fire, The Gulf of Tonkin, Heather Mill’s Divorce
People don’t change much really.
I wish the Leveson Inquiry well.
We are having a little local difficulty with our community news website of which a blogspot was spun out of the ParkFarmNeighbourhoodWatch.blogspot in Peterborough.
Unless we attend a kangroo court set up by a body known as the Cambridgeshire Neighbourhood Watch Executive Committee at Cambrideshire Police Headquarters, then we will have our Police issued Neighbourhood watch scheme number withdrawn mid January 2012 ie no public liability insurance for our members (residents) seeking to reduce crime etc.
Many of the questions Levison is asking of Guido run along the lines of the Executive Committee only there is one difference, four local tory councillors Rush, Walsh, Cereste, and Harper have apparently sent a covert e-mail to this star chamber complaining about, we know not what, as the executive committee refuse to release the evidence for us to consider.
This is at the centre of Camerons Big Society once it reaches local or regional level unpaid community volunteers are treated like shite, whereas local councillors and their political cohorts publicly cream off all the PAID volunteer roles (eg Chair four meetings of a Neighbourhood Committee in Peterborough £8,000 per annum ALLOWANCE!)
Meanwhile I am very sorry for Guido and that he is not being paid by the Levison enquiry, there was clearly no need to have a video link for Piers M. and why did he have a lightbulb growing out of his head?
I am told either him or his Greciain 2000 double is back in the UK most weekends, drinking in the pub which he part owns The Hansom Cab in Kensington. Could be wrong about this, but really who cares? Not a lot came out of his Court TV show ( just wanted them to play the cops sig. tune “Bad Boys” !)
As for Guido I suggest we set up a worldwide fundraising campaign “SOVS. FOR GUIDO” along the lines of the Goldenballs fund of yesteryear….
I’m struggling to understand how calling politicians ‘liars’, ‘imbeciles’, ‘disingenuous c*unts of the first water’ etc etc could be classed as defamatory.
I’d call it evidence-based blogging.
That said – Levenson’s questions look pretty innocuous. Although, of course, they might be just handing you enough rope.
Its not his job.
1. I’m not a lawyer, but I’m guessing the legal threats are there just as standard form to advise you that he has powers to force you to appear, which is pretty standard for any court.
2. The “what do you do” questions are required as this is a matter of legal record, and for those writing Guido’s biography in 200 years.
3. The “why” is important. Why does anyone blog (or indeed publish at all)? Somewhere along the scale from Narcissism to Public Interest? To become rich? To become famous?
4. The fact that any system is going to be leaky is nothing new – consider the “Spycatcher” case. But it’s worth asking if anything could be done – especially for people like the man initially suspected of the Yeates murder. And can “Public Interest” be defined?
Question 7 is tautological in that anything libellous would be defamatory – such illustrates the overall amateurishness of the exercise.
Counsel: This receipt is for the digital watch…
Judge: …a digital watch? What on earth is a “digital watch”?
Counsel: Sorry m’lud. A digital watch is a watch worked by microelectronics.
Judge: Oh! How fascinating. Proceed.
Counsel: The next receipt is for an automatic video recorder…
Judge: …”automatic video recorder”?
Counsel: Yes, I’m sorry m’lud. It’s a machine that records television programmes on special tape.
Judge: Oh, how fascinating. What will they think of next? Proceed.
Counsel: Thank you m’lud. And finally, a receipt for a “deluxe model inflatable woman”, whatever that is.
Judge: The Deluxe is the one with the real hair…
exactly what I was thinking!
)
Lets hope nobody starts rifling through Leveson’s bins and checking his voicemail. That would be awful.
Bloody hell. 50,000 British women have got dangerous French breast implants. That’s 100,000 dodgy tits.
Poor maths. 1 in 300 have a third tit.
Offset by mastectomies.
Ah but some of the mastectomies were of women with 3 to start
Offset by bimastectomies.
That’ll teach Dave to sabotage our treaty. We have sabotaged his women.
Fooled you – they were blokes
Try again
“Vile query in nos.”
Geddit this time?
No.
FFS anagram of….
Leveson inquiry?
Liquery venison.
This is easy, but “Son in vile query” would have been even better. Good luck young man.
Offer to answer the questions via video link with a copy of your latest book prominently displayed on the table.
Good idea. As well get some product placement for your drinking water.
I think you could also sell some space on your shirt cuffs
Tell your best Ken Dodd jokes Guido, that will give him some memories.
I was at a party last week and Tony Blair was there and we got chatting. He says, ‘Ken, you’re a comedian – tell me a joke’.
I said, ‘Tony, you’re a politician – tell me a lie’.
“(8) How do you consider yourself to be regulated?”
Evidently the Guido Association – a non mocking parody of the officially sanctioned Press Association.
The question is like being asked ‘are you radioactive ?’ The question could be an offer of medical help or the opportunity to be locked in a lead lined box in perpetuity. A senior judge should not have to ask you for technical legal advice.
Clearly you would have to refer to a legal expert (like himself) for advice to answer that one.
To say that these questions are leading would be something of an understatement. Everyone is guilty and there is no chance of being proven innocent.
What should be the subject of a vigorous public debate in the face of a changing media landscape is instead nothing less than a witch hunt.
What shall we do with him? Burn him!
I’d like to see the Royal Navy’s duty rowing boat turn up in Wexford too.
Me and Mr Bean will do it for a carton of fags and an ipod
Bagsy the exclusive interview Fay.
i suspect lord leveson has heard of this new internet thing over dinner (paid by the taxpayer) in the (taxpayer funded) judges chambers when he and the other judges rip of their wigs and tights!
We have butlers for that sort of thing
Ripping off your tights and wigs??!!
Good Lord I trust we’re not paying for that!
lol Ed Millibands favourite sports are Baseball and American Football.
Yeah I can see that going down well with the chavs.
Why am I not surprised that they are not hare coursing and badger baiting? Two fine English working class sports.
Ed loves NFL so much, get a Super Bowl in Wembley sometime, instead of the rubbish “regular season” games. It might actually bring some money into the UK. Then again, considering that you’d probably need some sort of Organising Committee to submit the bid, flush with Ed’s friends and whatever hangers-on decide to join, some way will be found to turn such an opportunity into a money-losing boondoggle.
And just a word to the wise, Ed: I wouldn’t go telling people I like a sport that involves the use of a bat; people might think you were encouraging the purchase of such an implement, which, as we know, in Britain is more commonly used off-label.
If he was talking to his bruvver he could ask him for a loan of that football stadium he frequents somewhere north of Watford.
I like American football, quite like baseball, but I despise Miliband and his silly hangers-on…
Am I unusual?
Phone hacking ‘bog-standard tool’ says former Mirror journalist
Once again the only winners are those with their snouts in the trough legal aid and expenses……
Tell ‘em to flock off !!
Sorry…. first post came through anon…… see below
Once again the only people to be making money out of all this seem to be the legal profession…. snouts in the trough of legal aid and expenses.
Time we demand that they are really regulated. A hell of a lot more lawyers in prison than hacks…
Tell ‘em to flock off..
Nothing will equal the Bloody Sunday inquiry, where fortunes were made.
CSA Code of Practice
1. General Conduct
Each member shall act responsibly and with
integrity in the day-to-day conduct of its
business. For example:
a)
Conduct its business lawfully, comply with
all relevant UK legislation, regulation
and judicial decisions and trade fairly and
responsibly.
b)
Conduct its business under a name, title or
style which will not confuse or mislead
clients, creditors, debtors or members of
the public, or which will not imply any
association with other organisations or
persons, which do not exist
I am not, therefore I don’t exist.
You mean: I don’t think, therefore I ain’t?
The best answer would be the one General Anthony McAuliffe gave to General Luttwitz when asked to surrender at Bastogne in 1944: ‘Nuts’.
Just for a laugh you could invoke the US Fifth Amendment…”I refuse to answer on the grounds that it might tend to incriminate me…”
I would recommend pleading the 21st Amendment. Mush, mush berra than the thifthfth.
The whole hacking furore is a farce, driven by hypocritical and/or corrupt celebrities concerned with hiding their sordid secret lives.
Anybody with commonsense realises that all phone calls, texts, e-mails etc etc can be intercepted by government bodies, the Police, the media, and 12 year old geeks in Dakota.
It’s all for “The Safety of the Public. It’s our duty to protect you”
Guido — please tell Leveson to fuck off big-time. His inquiry is a complete waste of time and money.
Tell ‘im to Foxtrot Oscar.
I thought Leveson was voluntary, it has no stautory being and is toothless.
So why is the old fool throwing his weight around when he has allowed the whole process to become a shambolic circus for luvvies and other general assorted riff-raff.
The media have my authority to hack, or any other technical description, the mobile and land-line phones of any luvvie or celeb or a to z lister who has relied on the media to further their career.
A pox and plague on the lot of ‘em.
Are you going to ask his lordship why your legal fees will not be covered when everyone else’s are, even people who couldn’t be bothered to turn up in person? And considering you were threatened / warned / censored which meant you had to get legal advice?
Standard establishment tactic. Tie down your enemy with frivolous lawsuits. And, if they’re found innocent, then retry them. It’s why double jeopardy
existsexisted. It’s why it’s in the US constitution.It’s why N*ick Gr*if*fin suddenly found himself under pressure prior to the last election. Standard practise from an oppressive regime. Tie the opposition down. Use the resources of the state against your political enemies. Keep them and their resources tied up while you continue fucking everything up.
Indeed.
Cherie will represent you, for a couple of million quid, no problem.
No apparently these days she’s too busy buying second hand furniture from antique auctions and selling the surplus on ebay. Poor lost woman.
Let’s face it – there’s nothing else she can do with her life. Instantly recognisable, if she walked down a street she’d be spat at. And that’s just by Labour supporters.
So leveson is selective in whose legal fees he refunds.
He’s not paying people like piersmorgan fees for appe@ring by videolink is he? ++Sigh++ I bet he is!
FOI request from Sunlight Centre ??
I really, really, really do hope that no-one from within the inquiry leaks Guido’s answers.
Nudge nudge, wink wink say nomore
Are Guido’s answers to be confidential? You know I never realised how easy it was to send an email or a blog posting to the wrong address. Happens all the time. This is Dale’s place isn’t it?
I see hipwell has put the knife into piers and turned it.
‘Unlikely that morgan did not know hacking was going on’
But then we knew that anyway. What’s the point of an inquiry that allows people to blatantly lie?
It makes me feel big and important, that’s the point of it.
The name Leveson will henceforth always be known as a euphemism for Kangaroo Court.
Like it! I got Levesoned last week by FIFA (or similar).
Off topic, but who cares.
One of the dirty horrible little bastards I gave a chance to and employed has defrauded my business over over £30,000.
He was heartbroken when caught but has unsurprisingly not attempted to repay a bean despite being in full time employment with some other fool.
Ive had a CCJ granted, because he didnt bother to respond to my costly solicitors letters.
It now appears he has backtracked, told the court he appealed it but they must have lost it and the silly old bastards have fallen for it. Weve had to call the bailiffs off thus saving the scote the idingity of blubbing his heart out again.
Why the fuck do we give these people the time of day.
I should have just crippled hi the day he got caught.
Fucking JOKE.
Rant over, happy xmas.
Perhaps the reference to “UK courts” should be queried as to whether he means English courts and Scottish courts, or whether he does not understand that the Scottish legal system is separate.
Any moral high ground the Fucking Scottish Legal system might have held is being tossed out the window as the S&P throw away one thousand years of protection from government tyranny and do away with double jeopardy.
Remember that when you find yourself politically opposed to Labour or the S&P and you’re being tried and re-tried on nonsense ‘charges’ just to keep you tied down. See n*ick G*if*fin for details. Ahhh – you say to yourself – that couldn’t happen here. Well it happened in England under Labour and I can guarantee you it’ll happen in Fucking Scotland too.
Same justification for getting rid of double jeopardy. ‘Shocking that we cannot re-try folk in the light of new evidence. Only be used for the most serious of crimes.’
A couple of years later they’re trying and re-trying their political opponents over what he said. Because it might have hurt somebodies feelings.
Most serious crimes my arse.
It is becoming clearer by the minute that these questions are not the product of a legally trained mind. So who is the gray eminence in the staff room?
Guido,
The more I think of it the more I believe you are being conned. This cannot be for real. How did Leveson find your Lawyers’ address? Etc. Etc.
I think this emanates from TAT and I claim recognition.
Good point. If I were Guido, I’d have the papers lab-tested for faecal matter, meths spillage, seminal fluids etc.
If any or all of these are found to be present, chances are the document actually came from Leveson.
and to think, millions of people died in 2 world wars for a free country, what a fucking joke this country has become.
These questions should never be asked in a free society. Send it to an MP and get him/her to fill it in under threat of imprisonment! Ask Cameron to send his replies too and that fucking dwarf that masquerades as a speaker of that shit hole they call the commons..
Don’t ever question democracy or human rights in North Korea, China or any where else; what fucking hypocrites our lying, thieving politicians are.
Methinks Guido is playing to the gallery. The question list seems quite reasonable……. and, if I had composed that list, I think I’d be indicating that the answers would truly contribute to the quest for balance in any future judgement.
I say this in the knowledge that the good Guido demands quite high standards of proof of dodgy dealings, having submitted a couple of examples to him……….. of course mine were rejected, because, to reveal the corroborative evidence, I would have had to reveal the evidence trails, which, in turn would have revealed the sources.
Guido might be a pain in the arses of the norties of our hierarchy, but his reportage standards are high.
It is at best inconsistent to first of all summon you formally to attend the Inquiry. Take cold feet at what you might say and cancel the requirement. Then prevent you from telling anyone else what you might have said. Then seek to command you to answer his leading questions having denied you paid legal advice unlike all other participants. Sounds to me like abuse of process by a man who has seriously lost his way. This Inquiry has lost what little credibility it might have started with.
You lucky sod Guido. Money can’t buy this sort of publicity. I hope you remember to thank the lord Justice for promoting the “order order” brand.
Quite!
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
The second amendment. Keeps the fuckers honest.
Or at least makes ‘em sleep with one eye open.
The 2nd Amendment saves all the others from becoming a dead letter.
We don’t have a 2nd amendment unfortunately.
Based on his questions, one must presume that Lord Leaveitout has not heard of the Libel laws of the UK. Rather worrying, seeing as Lord Leaveitout is a judge.
“Guido is minded to answer the questions not because he has to, nor because he accepts the jurisdiction of the inquiry, but only because he wants to tell the judge why he thinks his efforts are both a menace to freedom of the press and unnecessary.”
Whatever you say. If only you had some other means open to you of making your views public.
Could be worse. It least there’s no video link.
Shame he didn’t ask a couple of days ago. Question 11 could have been ‘ Are there any questions you would like me to ask Piers Moron as I am totally incapable of exposing the slippery bastard as in it up to his neck myself?’
It’s too easy for an accomplished liar like Morgan to avoid answering any incriminating question. You simply answer anything potentially incriminating with a ‘I have no recollection’, ‘I have no knowledge..’, ‘I’ve not seen any evidence to suggest..’, ‘I’m not aware of any…’
It’s the same approach used by Alistair Campbell. They’ll have been coached in not answering questions. Although I’m prepared to believe that for those two it comes naturally.
Jail !!
What’s the difference between a threat and blackmail?
That’s easy. We had that question last week.
A threat is somebody wagging a finger at you and blackmail was worn in dayes of olde by Jamaican Kniggets.
Our brief explained it to us, yeah? A th’ret is when you tell someone you’re goin’ to do GBH or the like to ‘em. It ain’t a crime less you’ve got the means to immediately carry it out, right? Blackmail, or extortion, is where you insinooate ya might do somefing but in exchange for dosh, or some uvva good and valuable consideration like someone’s personal property or their exercise/fobearance of a right/privilege, you decline to pursue the matter furver. Blackmail is usually about a person’s repettation whereas extortion is just plain shakedown. Ron and me wasn’t too partikler which one we done so long as the mark paid, yeah?
(I nevva did understand why when me and Ron told people to pay up or somefing bad might ‘appen, it was considered criminal, but when the brief did it, it was called “settlement negotiations.”)
So whose up next for questioning in this leveson circus? Or has he nearly run out of clowns to talk to? Oh wait a minute he hasn’t had twatson in there yet has he?
Who’s more self-righteous and egotistical – Tom Fatson or Lord Justice Leveson?
There’s one way to find out..
Still not heard Watson mention any other newspaper apart from those owned by Murdoch. Watson needs to be questioned about his agenda.
… and his diet ( and expenses while we’re at it)
It needs to be explained why someone who’s directly involved with making sure Labour’s message gets out as they would like it to is allowed to sit on the Media Select Committee, which could possibly lead to an inference of “Let’s not offend Tommy by being too hard on Labour; he may be in Government someday–elephants have long memories, you know.”
Free press my Aunt Matilda!
Whilst I am no legal expert, looking at the inquiry process from its own website, the ‘blogosphere’ doesn’t feature as part of the inquiry – it’s the press remember. Therefore any ‘ferret down a rabbit hole’ excursion into the blogosphere or internet appears to represent a complete diversion from the inquiry terms of reference.
Whoever framed the posed questions appears to have lost all control and seems keen to divert the inquiry in to a whole new direction. The term is ‘ultra fires’ as regards the inquiry process I believe.
If they ask you what’s at the centre of the universe – be very afraid, and don’t answer ‘The Sun’.
Many politicians have blogs, so why not call them to appear to justify why they do it ?
If the inquiry seeks to take on a new purpose and direction then it should do the job properly and investigate the matter thoroughly, taking new witnesses, from home and abroad, royalty and commoner alike.
Whoever wrote the questions is illiterate. Bodes well. Go to it, Fawkes.
Hiya People
are there any footie fans here? If so does anyone know if there isa openly gay footballer in top 2 leagues in England?
Ta
Justin Fashanu
oh, perhaps not the best choice.
Thinking of becoming a Hag Billy?
go to america and tell him via videolink to go fuck himself and try to extradite you !!!
just like Piers, you mean?
Guido make sure you get the web address “order-order.com” mentioned as many times as you can. Free publicity and all that.
Indeed, good point.
Was that the remarkable order-order.com website that you were referring to?
Don’t miss also the comment section where Billy’s life long quest to post first on any fucking website that he can , has yet again been achieved !
That sounds to me like Leveson is inviting you to do his work for him – though he will, of course, continue to take the pay.
I listened to the hearing this morning as Leverson told the voice not to get personaL
Yeah. Sorry we printed all those lies at the behest of Labour and, as a result, NoTW went out of business and hundreds lost their jobs.
Sorry about that.
Now – see what Polly Toynbee has to say.
Breaking news Coulson has Lost his high court action against News International for legal fees
Good now tell us what you really know !
OT
ECB does 500bn of QE in one day.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16282206
Have you already been on the Scot rail website to wish them all happy Christmas just so you can be first on their comments ?
I can’t see any point in such a prosecution.
It’s to teach us all not to take the law into our own hands. They hate it when you do that. If we were all to challenge disruptive behaviour instantly then we’d have beaten it out of most fuckers before they ever came to the attention of the police and courts and so they’d have nothing to do. And folk might start asking for a few of them to be fired.
Which would never do.
It’s demarcation. Can’t have an electrician doing a carpenters ‘job’. It’s British Leyland at large in the legal system.
The Big Man did what the limp wristed rail company should and used to do. No ticket you get thrown off the train (ok I’d let ‘em do it when its stopped). Some gob shite drunk student thinks it’s cool to travel return on a single ticket and get mouthy once challenged. Try it in Bulgaria or Serbia sonny they’d have thrown you off the moving train and not even bothered to slow down.
I don’t understand why anybody buys a single ticket anyway. It’s normally the same pr*ice or cheaper to buy a cheap return and, if you’re not coming back, you can simply give the return portion away to some poor bugger at the other end who might be glad of a free trip.
10p dearer for a return on my usual journey.
What the daft bugger seems to have done was to hand in his return portion on the first leg and was sitting there on the return journey with his used outgoing ticket.
Let’s hope both jocks are prosecuted.
Well, if that is in fact what he’d done – hand in his return portion on the outward leg while retaining the ‘out’ portion then I have some sympathy with the chap. However, small misunderstanding, sorry about that mate. No harm done.
I don’t see why anybody needs to be up in court over this.
Waste of everybody’s time. Except for the lawyers of course. They get paid either way.
Which, of course, is why it’s going to court at all.
The fare dodging little scrote went to St.Mungo’s High School in Falkirk. In Scotland that’s a give away what foot he kicks with.
As at my last glance, there were over 3100 comments on this story on the Yahoo front news page nearly all of them supporting what the big man did. There is some decency left in Britain. But how the hell do we go about getting all this nonsense corrected? We don’t seem to be able to rely on the “authorities” so it looks like we need an ‘English spring, early next year..
The establishment hates folk ‘taking the law into their own hands’.
Sit down. Do as you’re told. Leave the thinking to the ‘professionals’ with their institutional immunity. Then they wonder why nobody raises a hand to help others when they’re being attacked or mugged.
Of course it works in plods favour. We stand idly by and watch folk being killed by the police and the subsequent brass-necked cover-ups and just shrug our shoulders and hope it won’t be us next time.
“Leave it to the professionals” Yes Rather like the police did back in the summer
Standing there doing fuck all while the underclass helped themselves to other peoples property
watching while they burned peoples businesses
and being paid double time to boot
Nice Work if you can get it !
Sir ,we had a pay deal going on! we had to show the pulic they need us.
But Emma West was done after footage appeared on outube. Footage that should be inadmissable just like it was when the muslim man was on the same site attacking someone on the tube.
It is like there is one law for tehm and another for us.
Mr Speaker, I’ve done the reading and I’m ready to save the world.
Terry’s All Gold Dark Chocolates?
Racism is now endemic in all our supermarkets.
Sticks and stones…
Prosecuted. For saying something.
You can say you want to kill the Queen, you can say you will dance on Lady Tatch’s grave, you can say you are glad that Exocet hit the Sheffield – fine, comrade.
But say something that offends some protected species – exclusively selected by your Guardianista betters – and you could have your collar felt.
Then the cork pops out the kettle on this one, the results will be gloriously messy. Hope I’m there.
“leveson must truly think the 10 comandments would enhance this orderly blog”
Well, with a name like Leveson he sure ain’t English!
That’s why he’s not very bright.
I trust Guido will enliven proceedings by changing his name to “keep the blogosphere free” or “russbrigger is a devious c’unt”.
I think events this week have unmasked Leveson as either Guido’s brother, or Guido himself. After all, no-one could have asked those questions unless it was a cunning plan to make the state look quite incredibly stupid.
The alternative, namely that he is a real person who asked those questions with genuine intent, is too derisory to contemplate.
Piers; so Hugh, what’s your new film called?
Hugh; I can’t remember.
Piers; It’s an all action RomCom isn’t it?
Hugh; Possibly.
Piers; Who’s your co star?
Hugh;I don’t recall
Piers; Give me a brief plot summary
Hugh;I can only tell you about 5%
Piers;Where is it set?
Hugh;Earth
Piers;When is it out?
Hugh;I can’t quite remember.
Piers;Who was the director?
Hugh;I can’t reveal that.
Piers;So, how’s your golf?
Hugh; I am not at liberty to divulge that information
Piers; Thanks Hugh, that was very revealing
That’s about the long and short of it.
Have I arrived on Billy Bowden’s live news feed by accident?
Like all crooks and sleazebags who have been elevated to positions of influence during the New Labour incumbency, Leveson is abusing the powers that some undemocratic fool has invested in him. He should be treated with the contempt he deserves. I trust you are instructing your lawyers to tell him to f**k off.
Shut up and drink yer gin.
Some questions you should send to Leveson:
1. How did you come to be appointed an English judge? Did any money change hands?
2. Are you a friend of Lord Rithschold or Georgie Siros?
3. Who appointed you to the Head of the Sentencing Board? Was the job widely advertised and who were you up against?
4. Who appointed you to oversee this enquiry? Give complete details of all phone calls and conversations that relate to your appointment.
5. Who chose you Panel for this enquiry? Give complete details of all phone calls and conversation that relate to their appointment.
6. Have you ever been appointed to anything other than as a result of nepotism?
Archetypal public sector inevitably-leftie female on right of frame.
These are the ones ‘unfairly’ targeted by Tory cuts.
The only thing that is unfair is that I have to pay for the likes of them to remain blissfully unaware of what their labour is actually worth in a free market.
The clue as to whether any enquiry leads to a whitewash will be in the title of the person adjudicating, if there happens to be “Lord” in there somewhere, then it will be a scam and the true criminals such as Morgan will escape.
Ie: Lord Leveson
Lord Hutton
Can’t be bothered to list them all, but you know the pattern!
Beware the curse of Lord Scarman!
What a fucking liberty! This c_nt Leveson just another twat living in the cosy world of the Elite has the knob ever seen the Internet?
No-one should ever forget that it was Ed Milidick to initiated this ridiculous ruinously expensive show trial. Next time he starts whinging about Labour voters not getting enough benefits he should be reminded that thanks to him all the spare money has gone to Leveson’s crackpot enquiry instead of to people who need it.
LOL Sky don’t get it on this Terry racist thing.
Kay Burley has just put what she calls the sanitised bersion on screen.
You ******* black ****.
Little realising that the black word is what he is being charged with and not fucking cunτ. If he had simply called the dude a fucking cunτ nothing would have happened. But what a waste of police and court time. A simple apology would have sufficed.
A simple apology would have sufficed
Ha. Yeah. Right.
Suarez has just been fined 50K and banned for eight matches for calling somebody ‘b*l*a*c*k’. If he’d broken the fucker’s leg in six places and ended his career he’d have been only banned for two or three matches.
Priorities see?
The crazy thing is. is that we do not have a victim here. Ferdinand has not complained, it was one person in the crowd that did. Does Polly T watch footy?
A splendid law invented by Labour. A racially motivated crime has taken place if somebody thinks it has taken place.
I shit you not.
The crime occurs if, in the mind of the beholder, they feel as though a crime has occurred. It’s fucking surreal.
It’s like ‘Minority Report’. In fact it’s exactly like ‘minority report’ in so many ways.
Point of Order:
A racially motivated crime has taken place if somebody, who is not white, thinks it has taken place.
Sticks and stones — and now also words seem to be getting dangerous. The world (or at least England) has gone completely mad. I hope JT insists on trial by a jury (so his team can object to any darker hued persons being on it).
Impossible to find 12 whites in Britain these days
I have played football. I may have made comments when someone tried to kick me in a soft place when the ball had gone, but they were made to a white person like me and therefore no one gave a damn about being offended. Moreover, it was also amateur level stuff where there were no cameras on hand to record close ups for subsequent analysis.
Other than that, this incident could so easily have been me. Guess I was lucky then.
LOL. Leveson is a GOD (Gormless Old Dickhead)… I refuse to declare my sources of information.
If there were no n*****s in football
there wouldn’t be any racism
But these chocolate biscuits still seem to have the right to freely use expressions such as ‘honkey’ and ‘white trash’. Time for a proper revolution rapidly approaching?
Its not John Terry’s fault that Ferdinand is ashamed of being black and doesn’t like anyone mentioning it.
Beyond licking The Guardian’s arse, Leveson’s prime ambition is to win the Caption Competition.
Go on, give him a treat.
Lord Leveson is the Greatest Umpire Ever.
Halleluyah! Judge ment day is here..
First establish if by answering these questions are you entering into a contract with the said Lord. ( He may not wish ( for his own benefit) not to enter into a contract with you)
On an satisfactory answer from that you may or may not proceed as follows.
1, I am Guido of the Hawkes family.
2,I do not publish material.
3,A website is not based anywhere.
4,I read it on the World Wide Web. Internet.
5,Not sure what you mean.
6,Who’s ethics are you referring to.
7,All comments are shown on the blog.
8,By Almighty God.
9,It cannot.
10, Let people read and think what they themselves want to. As a Term Of Reference.
Or you could just answer, “I am not sure.”
These pills the doctor gave me for my heart are wrecking my memory. A side effect you know.
Donate to Labourlist or your Dr gets it!
Leveson stinks of whitewash….
Leaving yourself open here Billy!
Oh well, i will cope.
Leveson should be charged with bringing the Law into disrepute.
Egypt: 10,000 march in protest at woman dragged half-naked through street.
Just imagine the number of protesters if Guido legs it fully naked round Smith Square
Guido.
Those questions are largely a request for your opinions and they are hugely impertinent.
I hope you deal with them and with him in your usual direct way and thereby put an end to his grandstanding.
I get a voyeuristic thrill out of hacking phones for the Guardian.
Dear Lord Leveson,
Can you send me a brief resume of your career history?
Yours,
A blogger on that internet thingy.
Leveson seems to want your professional advice, advise him of your fees.
True, doubt that Leveson is working pro bono.He just just doesn’t look the sort.
For fuck’s sake you hyperactive modder, leave off the fucking pe@s!
Just try using another veg, seasonal would be a sprout, as: Eurosproutan (Brussels) or Diss ‘a’ carrot.
Try a simple typo like Europaens
It’s laughable how you say you can’t control the internet. Of course you can. It’s simply a matter of a government passing a law to force the ISPs and the upstream providers to comply with those laws.
It might be the wild west now but it won’t be forever. The only reason it’s been able to be so unregulated for so long is because those who seek to regulate it don’t understand it. Once they do understand it (which won’t be long) it will be game over for blogs like this.
Do you mean in the way Iran or China manage that,or more like a nazi or stalin sort of way?
No, not at all. I just mean regulation in the same way that other parts or society are regulated. As Staines points out, new laws aren’t necessarily needed when laws just need to be applied correctly. Pirated content, illegal material, defamatory content etc. etc. would soon disappear if those people pushing it around were brought down.
It’s when, not if.
Locking up people who steal, online or offline, or seek to hurt others, online or offing, or defame or libel, online or offline, or abuse, online or offline shouldn’t be something to be afraid of – we should welcome it! Who in their right mind wants people who break the law (in often horrific ways) to remain free simply because they hide behind some kind of geek bread internet anonymity?
Geek bread anonymity says Mr Anonymous, must be some king irony in there somewhere, let me think?.
Quite.
You are Jim Wrong ‘Un and I claim…
You mean, like how printing and clandestine publications were banned in the Soviet Union?
I see, because that worked very well. And no one knows how to get round electronics, right?
If he wants to know how to regulate, regulate, regulate, he should ask the experts, the FSA…………err, well, perhaps not
“To what extent to which you are aware of the sources of the information which make up the central stories featured on your blog”
Mangled syntax to make you cry. Punctuation sometimes helps, but not in this example.
Three ‘which’s’ in a sentence and you have a coven.
Leveson has turned this inquiry into the ‘I Love McCann Show ‘ it is a circus and to be honest Guido I would not bother turning up.
http://themurdochempireanditsnestofvipers.blogspot.com/2011/12/leveson-mccanns-clarencemitchell.html
Clarence Mitchell should be in jail along with a few other unsavoury characters surrounding this bizarre case…
Clarence Mitchell has single handledly done more harm to the relationship with Portugal than anyone else in the past three hundred years.
Why is he not on the stand?
I think it is perhaps because he knows too much on others.
If you don’t want to be nice to people on the way up, make sure you have enough dirt on them to stop you slipping down.
I assume Leveson hopes for the order of the KGB in due course. He can’t even manage that so no hope of regulating the WWW.
I strongly agree with many of the other insightful and succinct comments here.
Notwithsttanding the pain of the Dowler family with which I sympathise, the enquiry itself is a vast waste of time and money. The press are the press. You might as well ask a dog not to bark.
Regulation we have in plenty, thanks to mcCavity and his ilk. Now we have ludicrous scope creep and an enquiry largely provoked by misleading statements from the Guardian and the very thing that triggered it, now discredited.
If Leveson is any kind of lawmaker then he should go back to first principles and re-evaluate the basis on which the enquiry is being held now rather than stray into areas beyond his competence.
Leveson should instead account for his own woeful handling of the enquiry so far. It is a farce.
It’s nothing to do with honesty and truth and the little people, it’s all about Liebour getting it’s own back on NI, the problem is how do they keep it focused on NI, in their hate they have opened a can of worms and a great lumbering idiot who will eventally bite their arses and a ghost called Murdoch will haunt them after big L has passed and gone.
Agreed.
Plus, in view of the Grundian’s admisiion that this whole farcical saga is based on a pack of lies, if Leveson had even one tiny iota of integrity he would return to those who gave him this brief and tell them there is no foundation for any of this wasteful nonsence and resign on the spot. Perhaps it is time somebody brought these facts to his attention.
Ooooo look >>>> a pig doing a loop the loop!
Leveson Question 11 (the unseen)
In what way should I just fuck off back to whence I came? Please answer without reference to any of your buddies especially if it means sticking an ethernet cable up my arse
Question 12, FFS how much money is this farce costing us?.
He might prefer firewire.
What can be done to redraw the curtain
Too much is being revealed to the pleb.
Troughing, spinning lying and certain
appointments – Guidogrammed on the web.
Start an enquiry, a kangaroo court
Don’t look for truth, make it a fudge
Waffle and bully, stifle free thought
Who does this best, why Lord L the Judge.
Levenson’s brief is to examine the Press and Police in relation to the phone hacking scandal.
In Levenson’s own words he will examine the relationship of the Press with the public police and politicians.
Fawkes should acknowledgeThe Questionaire and ask Levenson to designate how he categorises Fawkes for the purpose of this enquiry.
If he replies Fawkes is a core participant then Fawkes will get his hands on taxpayers money just like those others.
Sending a questionaire requiring such detailed responses in a narrow timescale days before Christmas is to my thinking a possible breach of Fawkes’ Human Rights.
HRA gives Fawkes (who I assume is a Christian ) the right to a family life. to disturb his family preparations now is unconscionable especially as the request could have been made weeks earlier.
Levenson may be going beyond his remit with certain of his questions. However the final paragraph will have fawkes working all night outlining all the details he has relating to phone hacking and how press politicians police and public are involved.
I hope this is all helpful.
Surely it won’t take long to answer…..
(1)&(2)- Are you kidding ?
(3) onwards : f#ck off
Breaking news…………. homeless people die 30 years earlier than the rest of the population!
Well – that’ll solve the problem, won’t it?
Charles Darwin explained it all. Evolution gets rid of them. The Fourth Reich will assist with Leveson and Co. in due course.
How’s about that then. The Moderator’s on tea break.
M’Lud, I fear I am guilty too. You see, I have read the website in question. It has helped me form opinions. It has also made me laugh at times as it passes as entertainment on odd occasions as well as a source of amazement over the high jinx our national leaders and supposed betters get up to. No, I do not understand this tinterwebs of which you speak, but if you care to jail me please remember my plight when you are drawing your extremely large pension, to which I have contributed over the years.
(PS is there any race or victim card I can play to gain compensation?)
The more I read about this pompous asshole, the more I really want Guido to stick it to him. This prick is getting under my skin and I don’t even know him!
Leveson wants the ins and outs of a cats arse from others, but remains stoically obtuse himself on matters of personal freedom. Do a Draper on this egotist, and grind him into the dust!
Every five minutes it would appear that unworkable systems (dictators, Euro, socialism…) are crumbling before our very eyes. It doesn’t take a brilliant mind to realize that this, along with the 230-year old New World Order, is just one of them.
(1) I am me;
(2) Read it and weep;
(3) It resides wherever electricity lays its head;
(4) Oh you know… people ring up, drop hints, send press releases. The usual;
(5) Do you speak English?;
(6) Ethics is about avoiding doing what the liars, the corrupt and cheats do;
(7) People are free to comment and complain;
(8) A balanced diet helps;
(9) Regulated by regulation you say? You think that works? Wow. And there was me thinking that this was about phone hacking when it was about regulations all along. Who knew?;
(10) Yes, one final observation: keep your platinum-plated pensioned nose out of acts of freedom. You don’t understand them and it’s not my job to tell you how it works. Just focus on nailing the guilty parties and you’ll be fine.
You’ve nailed it.
It’s also useful to remember that there is no legal obligation to co-operate with this sort of government Star Chamber activity. A citizen’s obligations are limited to complying with the letter of the existing law – nothing more.
Let the lord ask specific questions – and answer them if you so wish.
If the lord makes open-ended speculative statements – keep silent.
Black people will take offense if they’re called black and they ‘ll take offense if they’re called coloured. Is it all right to call them white?
Fascinating list of questions. Am I the only one who thinks they all seem to have been compiled by person/persons eaten up by wanting to know: “how the f*** does Guido manage to be so successful?”
Why don’t you try a voluntary bloggers’ code before something statutory comes along?
In answer to Question 8
(8) How do you consider yourself to be regulated?
1 Ex-lax
2 Syrup of Figs
3 Ayrton Senna-pods