December 9th, 2011

The Right People are Upset

Ben Brogan reports the French fury:

“…the French are very angry – one French diplomat says that Britain is acting “like a man who wants to go to a wife-swapping party without taking his own wife”. So too are the Europeans. The FT quotes an EU official who says “this is going to cost the UK dearly – they have antagonised everyone”

Jon Snow is watching everything he believes in slip away:

The LibDem MEPs are raging:

And the man who failed to build alliances in his own family thinks people want to hear his view:

Needless to say the Guardian is incandescent. What a lovely morning…


286 Comments

  1. 1
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Good way for the Guy News team to recover from hangovers?

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    • 6
      misterned says:

      I never thought I would agree with Dennis McShame, but I welcome his late conversion to Euroscepticism. We do now need to get out of the EU.

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      • 15
        angry says:

        *2

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        • 76
          Goddess, Empress, Dictator, Frau Merkel says:

          The Irish will have to hold a referendum now. I know they will vote how I want them to as we will keep holding referendums until they do. Now where is my obedient Miliband poodle and Cleggy hamster?

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          • Lord Trombone says:

            Please can we use this momentum to achieve some mission critical goals

            1. CLOSE THE FUCKING BBC

            2. STOP PAYING PEOPLE NOT TO WORK

            3. MOVE £50B NHS to PRIVATE SECTOR

            4. MOVE TO FAIR FLAT TAX capped at 32.6%

            If you object to anything written here you are cnut

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          • rocknrolla says:

            What is militwat going to say at PMQs? That CallmeDave should have surrendered?

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          • Old Hogarth says:

            Then I’m a cnut. You do those things, you’ll have a revolution. Possibly not in the way you might want,

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          • Lord Trombone says:

            Old Hogarth – there is no time for surrender.

            You are either with us or against us

            Please attend for education

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          • not now cato says:

            “FAIR FLAT TAX capped at 32.6%”

            There is one person who does not understand the concept of a flat tax.

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      • 29
        Alan Partridge says:

        McShane is a crook who should be in jail and denied the oxygen (of publicity, or maybe just denied oxygen).

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      • 42
        Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

        He’s just concerned that when we are out from under the EU influence prison conditions will get more draconian and hopefully he’ll be experiencing them first hand as a result of the long term expense fiddles he was running.

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      • 43
        Lord Lucan says:

        Call me Dave has finally got some Cojones…Bravo!

        Now time to cut Taxes and be the undisputed and overwhelming centre for the European Financial markets, crushing Frankfurt and Paris When the Euro idiots put a financial transactions tax on the 17, UK will get all the business still done in Europe flowing to the City.

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        • 249
          Ryan says:

          Yeah, it will be interesting to see just how keen they are on this Tobin tax when its only THEIR financial centers that are affected.

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      • 46
        PWTF says:

        Sidestepping membership of the European Newnion, or the E17 (why name it after a boy band by the way?) is a good call, made especially sweeter because it upsets MacShame.

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    • 7
      Up sh1t creek says:

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    • 36
      Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah says:

      It is indeed a lovely morning Guido.

      And don’t forget you Oirish are now going to get another referendum. Please get it right this time.

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      • 199
        Figure of Hate says:

        So lovely in fact that while working in the office in Germany, I just treated my German staff to the Land of Hope and Glory at high volume.

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    • 86
      Anonymous says:

      Well, we might as well have an election in January after all this, as McShane says we are out, the USA will not want us we have served our purpose milddle east wars and all that and helping with with their prime lending, they didn’t want us in the 1970’s. As so many on this blog have said and so vociferously LET THE VOTERS DECIDE then everyone will be happy, wont they?

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      • 257
        Nick Clegg says:

        I am spitting with anger over this but neither I nor any of my fellow Ministers are going to resign from the coalition as we have rather got used to all the troughing.

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    • 134
      mmm, yumyum says:

      That bird from The Guardian on Daily Politics is thick as pigshit but she does have delicious tits.
      More of her please.

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    • 223
      M says:

      Remember , Gordon’s opinion is definitive

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  2. 2
    Trinny says:

    Chalk one up for DC!

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    • 19
      Spartacus says:

      With luck the lib dums (common market arse lickers of the alliance) may take their football and clear off.

      Good ole ukip

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    • 51
      AC1 says:

      Or perhaps this is all for domestic consumption….

      Why can’t the 17 Euro losers meet up and agree to bailout each other? Oh they can’t they’re all insolvent and desperate to find a sucker to fund them.

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        At long last some Bulldog spirit says:

        Not sure about the Franco/German stance her. Any person in their right mind can see that the Eurozone is going to fail and fail big time. I can see reasons for a slow withdrawal of certain countries but the cost is huge and surely the German people are at some point going to say hang on why should we be bailing these people out. Sarkozy is due for re-election in 2012 and at this time looks to not have a prayer of getting back in and likewise Merkel in 2013 so the big players right now are going to be playing musical chairs within the next 18 months. Where does that then leave the failed Europe project?

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  3. 3
    Iloathlefties says:

    But did he do this as the only way to stop us getting our referendum? I want to know the small print with all these slimey politicos.

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    • 32
      Cogito Dexter says:

      Well take some (small) comfort that things aren’t getting worse with regard to our sovereignty. Had McBruin been in charge, we’d have sunk without a trace and we’d be singing alternate verses of La Marseillaise and Das Lied der Deutschen from hereon in.

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      • 124
        Anonymous says:

        Probably German, after all the Royal Family is of German descent aren’t they?

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        • 268
          blue-eyed boy says:

          We’re all of German descent.

          You are Anglo-Saxon, right?

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          • I Hate Tesco AND the Pope says:

            Wrong, Blue-Eyed Boy. Anonymous is a semi-literate, probably foreign, and certainly obsessive blogger with an IQ three clicks below Bob Crow’s. He can’t even match singular subjects with singular objects, so he (or she) must have been educated some time after 1970. Anyone who spends that much time in front of a computer is either immobile and/or full of Thorazine.

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    • 40
      Engineer says:

      If the shitstorm of retributory measures starts hitting the UK from an aggrieved EU, pressure for a referendum will mount quite quickly.

      Personally, I have no objection to other sovereign countries rushing in the direction of financial catastrophe if that’s what they want to do, but I think it would be prudent to stand well to one side while they’re doing it. We’re bound to be hit by some of the debris when it all goes up, but the more we can do to protect ourselves in the meantime, the better. Dave might well have bought us some time.

      As for MacShane, Snow, the Grauniadistas and the BBC, if someone invited you to take a flight in a patched-up plane with one wing shorter than the other, the engines held on with string and a pilot who is clearly blind in one-and-a-half eyes, would you jump at the chance? No? Well, why would you tie yourself to a dodgy currency?

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      • 47
        Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

        That sounds like Brown’s government and those people were four square behind that so they would probably jump at the chance.

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      • 55
        AC1 says:

        >Personally, I have no objection to other sovereign countries rushing in the direction of financial catastrophe if that’s what they want to do

        Oh I do, the second world war was a direct result of printing (and Germans being forced to subsidise France).

        Sound familiar?

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  4. 4
    Liebour Partei uber-mensch says:

    Yes being on the sidelines as other countries get swallowed into the belly of a Franco-Prussian dictator-snake is such a terrible thing Jon Snow.

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  5. 5
    Head of The BBC cleaning department says:

    There are empty bottles of anti-depressants rolling around the corridors here at the beeb.

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  6. 8
    Subrosa says:

    Well, well, and they said he wouldn’t stand firm. Now the fun will begin.

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  7. 9
    Aaron D Highside says:

    When the lefties hate it, one somehow knows it must be good for Britain.

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    • 28
      Tessa Tickles says:

      +1e10

      “The LibDem MEPs are raging: Cameron has betrayed Britain”

      When the Illiberal Dimocratic traitors are wetting themselves, you know Cameron’s done the right thing.

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      • 52
        Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

        When the number Handycock amongst their ranks bleating on about betraying Britain sounds a bit stupid.

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        • 132
          Anonymous says:

          Now then sir how many times have you excercise your right in the last month bet not as many times as Boris or even your friend the handyman

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      • 113
        Archer Karcher says:

        That’s a bit more than rich, the most consistent “betrayers of Britain” over the last twenty+ years, have been the Lib-Dim’s. What a shower they are.

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      • 164
        Alf Garnett says:

        The LibDems are “dead men walking” aka zombies. They don’t matter now, and probably haven’t ever done until the Coalition which will implode soon anyway.

        As someone who voted to get out in the 1975 referendum, and who has despaired of the traitorous Common market/EC/EU stitch-ups perpetrated by the Tory PMs Heath, Thatcher and Major, (not forgetting their bag-carriers), and supported by Labour and the LibDems, I just hope that we can now reclaim our country.

        Ridley was right when he called this thing a “German racket”, but he should have added in the Frogs as well.

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        • 250
          Ryan says:

          No, it is a German racket set up to allow German corporations like Siemens to shaft their competition in the rest of Europe. The French politicos were too stupid to realise it (although the French public voted against Maastricht and only got propelled in by Mauritius apparently voting in favour).

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      • 165
        Scopes says:

        Some demented Limp Dim MEP has completely lost the plot; she was on Al Beeb a few minutes ago saying she’s thinking of taking Irish citizenship in protest.

        Today is the best day I’ve had in 15 years.

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    • 67
      Well said that man says:

      +10000000000000000000000000000

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    • 233
      At long last some Bulldog spirit says:

      You have that 100% right.

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  8. 10
    a non says:

    One can’t make an omlette without breaking a few eggs.
    The fact that European leaders, bandwagon anti UK politicians and media pundits have egg on the face is too good to be true.

    Hope Paul and Neo are both downing the raw egg with “wooster” sauce to get through the day.

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      a non says:

      One can’t make an omlette without breaking a few eggs.
      The fact that Europe-an leaders, bandwagon anti UK politicians and media pundits have egg on the face is too good to be true.

      Hope Paul and Neo are both downing the raw egg with “wooster” sauce to get through the day.

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    • 184
      Huge Rant says:

      Thank goodness Cameron had the the sense to say I’ve had e oeuf

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  9. 11

    Perhaps he felt the weight of most of the British public behind his back.

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    • 45
      Engineer says:

      So he should. Isn’t that government is supposed to do, act in the country’s interests?

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      • 128
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        Rather, to act in accordance with the wishes of the electorate, and within the manifesto he was elected upon.

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  10. 12
    Simon says:

    The weather might be shit but there’s a rainbow coming up.

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  11. 13
    LabourNutter says:

    Sounds like turning up to a dinner party and being told it’s a wife-swapping one.

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  12. 14
    Ol' Blue Eyes says:

    Time to toddle over to the Guardian and have a gloat. Which is the best thread to do it in? The one with the most outraged references to “little Englanders” preferably.

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    • 94
      davidc says:

      please make lots of references to ‘little europeans’ while you’re at it

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      • 197
        misterned says:

        I find that the Europhiles are the worst sort of cowardly defeatist “little Englanders” for believing that the UK is too small and weak to look after itself!

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  13. 16
    Gordon Brown says:

    Dave should have hid in a cupboard and only emerged to sign the new treaty when everyone else had gone home.

    That’s what i did with Lisbon, and I didn’t look ridiculous at all.

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  14. 17
    Selohesra says:

    Time for a snap general election on this pivotal issue which so clearly divides the parties – lets see if the country support standing up to Europe for once or would rather the Milliband surrender approach. Could be a landslide if the public opinion could be mobilised. And the beardie-weardie libs would be gone forever :)

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  15. 18
    Righty Right Wing (Mrs) says:

    Morning all.

    Ah, smug mode.

    The right people are upset. I am delighted.

    Democracy & the will of the people has forced Camerons hand even though no ballot boxes were involved.

    The vast democratic majority of British people want out of the EU – this is the first step to freedom for us.

    Let the socialist EUSSR naval gaze & regulate & tax itself into the last century – we are Great Britain – we invented the modern world & will now trade fairly & freely with it on our terms.

    Happy days.

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  16. 20
    Mornington Crescent says:

    Add to that a huge contraction of our Trade Deficit this morning and Jock wind turbines burning up and falling over under the strain of, er, wind.

    The sun has just come out – literally and metaphorically.

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  17. 21
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Today is a good day to be a Euro-sceptic ! :-)

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  18. 24
    Jabba the Cat says:

    Best expressed in French to the French…

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  19. 25
    Rickytshirt says:

    Watch Dave’s approval ratings go up now. He won’t be scared of doing the same again.

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    • 39
      Tessa Tickles says:

      A week ago he announces the sacking of 710,000 public sector parasites, today we get a veto on EU insanity.

      Holy crap, Christmas has come early.

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      • 61
        Selohesra says:

        Tomorrow we close the BBC & cancel immediately all atate funding of the unions

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        • 136
          Archer Karcher says:

          If that ever comes about and he limits inward immigration, I really will vote Tory once more.

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        • 212
          Anonymous says:

          And after that perhaps we might get our proper coinage back. You know, the ones with Britannia, the Portcullis et al on the reverse which Brown saw fit to get rid of a couple of years ago.

          It’s only a small thing when compared with the magnitude of all else going on at the moment, but still….

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  20. 27
    Happy as Larry says:

    The majority of people in Britain now want out of the mess that is the European economy and see the only alternative as a referendum. However….. THERE WILL NOT BE A REFERENDUM.

    We are already on the way out. Cameron has made a stand and Sarky Dozy and Mercat Killer are not happy. They will see to it now that we are isolated, but as others have said it is really independence. This is the best news I have heard since Heath The Traitor to us into the slaughter house of the British that is Europe.

    We are on the way to freedom and; as someone better than me once said “rejoice, rejoice”.

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    • 275
      Archie says:

      Woah! Steady on there old sport! We haven’t won just yet. It LOOKS good, but the situation will have to be monitored constantly and we will have to keep all these fuckhead politicos on their toes in case of back-sliding on their part.

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  21. 30
    A Spitfire circling over Dover says:

    Cameron seems to have pissed off all the lefty shirt lifters today.

    It’s agrea tday then.

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  22. 31
    The BBC's view says:

    Cameron should immediately resign and hand over power to the Labour leader Ed Miliband in the National Interest………LOL

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  23. 35
    Stinkfinger says:

    Britain is a net importer of goods from the EU and a net exporter of money into the fucking EU coffers.
    No law imposed on us from Brussels(Human rights,min wage etc) we couldn’t have legislated for ourselves at Westminster if we had wanted to.
    Nato(The Yanks) keep the peace on the continent not this shitting EU construct.
    Bollocks to em all.

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  24. 37
    The Golem says:

    Beware of the halo effect. If there is no backroom treachery, great stuff and long over-due. Hope it turns out to be a case of all praise to the repentant sinner.

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    • 145
      Archer Karcher says:

      Aye, there’s often a sting in the tail when it comes to the Kommrades from Brussels, but if Dave has done the right thing for once, give him all due credit.

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  25. 38
    What a wonderful day. says:

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  26. 41
    The Last Quango in Paris says:

    ha ha ha ha ha ha.

    Compare Cameron to Brown who crept in the back door (not for the first time) to sign away our rights in Europe.

    Well done DC – and if Militwits ‘people’ read this – that moron would have signed anything in Europe if he thought that meant that people would notice him.

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  27. 44
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Black Friday is here – as I predicted.

    Come on, cock head Cameron. Resign.

    Deeply troubling news from the markets: FSTE100 up 23.6 points.

    Only Prime Minister Miliband can reverse this worrying trend. In the name of Britain, Cameron, go! And GO NOW!

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  28. 49
    Cressida Dick-Balls says:

    Hope we don’t need to borrow a couple of aircraft carriers anytime soon.

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  29. 53
    09/12/2011 says:

    Tis indeed a lovely morning.

    Dave tells Europe to fuck off.
    A QT audience told a labour MP and Labour lick spittle to fuck off.
    The wind told a windmill to fuck off.
    And the BBC is fucked off.

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    • 83
      Ha hah says:

      I’m amazed, I managed to watch QT for the first time in ages and I didn’t want to smash the bloody telly.

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      • 116
        SpAd says:

        Bit of a nightmare for Mehdi wasn’t it?

        He looked every inch the boring 6th-form know-all that he is, rather than the razor-sharp political analyst and raconteur he believes himself to be.

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        • 162
          joescotus says:

          whinger hasan should team up with that other lefty whinging carpetbagging via uganda immigrant yasmnt balabi slabbering blabbering self regarding bastard!

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          • Archie says:

            What you’ve got a hold of with Labia-bi Brown and Has-not are two great arguments for reverse immigration!

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      • 117
        I don't need no doctor says:

        Do you think yappy poodle Miliband watched QT?

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  30. 54
    Emperor van Rumboy says:

    If diminutive Sarkozy gets too stroppy, perhaps we should stop sending all those billions to the EU every year.

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  31. 57
    I Squiggle says:

    Merkel has consistently vetoed any idea that the ECB should step in with a big bazooka, something France Italy etc want. Why? Because it’s apparently not in Germany’s interest for the ECB to do so. What’s the difference with what Cameron has done – is it because ‘we is British’?

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    • 66
      Shire Tory says:

      Bank of England and the Fed have been lenders of last resort for donkeys. Germans are scared of taking wages home in wheelbarrows again.

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    • 216
      FlipC says:

      If the ECB handled it then it would remain the Eurozone’s problem. Merkel seems to want it to become an EU problem with Sarkozy et al getting snotty when a non-zone member of the EU questions it.

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    • 226
      Fog says:

      I Squig
      All other EU countries except Germany want the ECB to buy up debts and print euros, which is the only way out. Merkel is the one blocking agreement. The dwarf wants IMF to step in so countries other than the eurozone will pay, including the U.S.

      The media aren’t interested in these details, or the bigger picture, only in bringing on lib-dems and labour idiots to do a bit of Cameron-bashing.

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  32. 58
    A Spitfire circling over Dover says:

    The BBC are upset as their EU ‘bungs’ might now dry up. Do you know how much top quality Cocaine 200 million can buy at the BBC?

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    • 108
      Elsie Beattie (83 and a quarter) says:

      Two tonnes, dear?

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    • 161
      Archer Karcher says:

      Twoo hundred million?

      More like £380 million P.A. usual rules apply, no difficult questions or investigations into the dirty de*alings of the Brussels mafia.

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  33. 59
    Shire Tory says:

    To be born English is to win the lottery of life – let’s keep it that way, my cup runneth over!

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  34. 60
    anon. says:

    Another loon,who would give away £ Billions and British jobs for nothing.

    http://twitter.com/#!/SallyBercow/status/145086269326757889

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  35. 62
    Andrew Douglas says:

    “And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
    Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
    O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!”
    He chortled in his joy

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  36. 63
    nellnewman says:

    ‘littlepoint in the UK staying in the eu now’

    I never thought I’d see the day when I’d agree with the mega thief mcshane.

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    • 81
      Anonymous says:

      We know the old crook and scammer is just saying it as a scare tactic, but that doesn’t make it any the less refreshing.

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      • 90
        nellnewman says:

        How long I wonder before the euro collapses. That’ll be another day to celebrate.

        The greeks apparently already have planning in place to go back to the drachma.

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        • 172
          Shall We Dance? says:

          I’ve heard a rumour that the Dutch may ask for a referendum over the Merkozy plan too. The GP, DS and PVV are all apparently against and are a majority in the Dutch parliament. Interesting days ahe*ad.

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        • 235
          At long last some Bulldog spirit says:

          Not just the Greeks but the Portuguese, Spanish and Italians must have the same plans. It will happen just a matter of time.

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          • At long last some Bulldog spirit says:

            Also the rules on GDP to deficit from 3.00% to 0.5% is just not going to happen and is not a sustainable goal in the real world.

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        • 240
          Ivor Tapeworm says:

          Buy shares in De la Rue. They print banknotes and are going to be awful busy soon.

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  37. 65
    Great British Public says:

    “Every step that tends to make Europe more prosperous and more peaceful is conducive to British interests … but we have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked but not comprised. We are interested and associated but not absorbed. And should European Statesmen address us in the words which were used of old – ‘Shall I speak for thee to the King or the Lord of the Host?’ – we should reply with the words of the Shunamite woman: ‘Nay sir, for we dwell among our own people …’

    Winston S. Churchill 1946

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  38. 68
    Anonymous says:

    I agree Guido, what a lovely day, if you are English, not so if you are Scottish or Irish though!

    We’ve been on our own so many times in the past and survived, against all the odds.

    Any one who differs from Cameron, i.e. the left, are probably getting their money from Europe any way and are not allowed to criticise the EU any way, are you? or you might lose your pension!

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    • 271
      Scotsblue says:

      You are not on your own mate. There are a lot of scots tories you know. Give it time. Lhabour are struggling up here and the ShNP are being slowly found out for the cretins they are.

      This is a great day for the whole of the UK.

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  39. 69
    will says:

    well done dave, the EU is in a mess at some point the german taxpayer is going to wake up and ask why it should constantly bail out the greeks and italians who have been living the good life instead of reforming thier economies. I think secretly our german cousins are proud that we have told the eu to bugger off. They will soon get fed up having to pay for thier neighbours partying whilst the germans worked hard to save and were prudent.

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    • 109
      davidc says:

      yes, why do so many slag off the germans for being hard working and fiscally prudent while trying to justify the financially behavior of the feckless and idle ?

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  40. 70
    Well it's a thought says:

    Tick tock, tick tock, when Camoron puts the BBC up for sale, then we will know he wants to piss off the EU by selling the EU’s British mouthpiece.

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  41. 71
    Desperate Dan says:

    Money launderers are pleased. Tax exiles are pleased. Off-shore account holders are pleased. ‘Russian’ crooks are pleased. Non-Europeans who pay bribes, aka consultancy fees or political contributions, to Tory MPs are pleased.

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  42. 72
    will says:

    Also the European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso (not elected) barracking dave and the other EU leaders can only add to his votes comes the next election.

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  43. 73
    Tipton Slasher says:

    ……..one French diplomat says that Britain is acting “like a man who wants to go to a wife-swapping party without taking his own wife”

    so the finance deal is like a wife swapping party?

    European wife swapping sound dangerous, you may end up with a greek woman with a hairy top lip

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    • 159
      SpAd says:

      That’s how their ‘diplomats’ speak? I’d hate to hear the opinion of an impolite Frenchman on this matter, if that’s the case.

      Bunch of f*cking cheese-eating surrender monkeys anyway.

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      • 211
        Monsieur Francois says:

        I have a French diplomatic friend who would be very upset if I sent him a copy of your remarks.

        [Now where did I put his email address?]

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  44. 74
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Could this day get any better?

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    • 79
      Silly Sally Bigcow says:

      Only if the tabloids get a photo of me in bed with Gordon ?

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    • 102
      Goddess, Empress, Dictator, Frau Merkel says:

      You will pay, no one can stand in my way, I control Europe not you.

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      • 178
        Archer Karcher says:

        Oh contraire Frau Merkel, I do believe you and Shortarzy will actually pay, pay and pay again, in a futile effort to save the un-savable EUro. Good luck with that shit.

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        • 239
          At long last some Bulldog spirit says:

          It going to be great watching Merkel and Sarkozy trying to push water up the hill. When they face their electorate and that is not to far away they will be OLD NEWS.

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    • 205
      swampy dog says:

      congratulations on your win, Billy !

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  45. 75
    Great British Public says:

    “Every step that tends to make Europe more prosperous and more pe@ceful is conducive to British interests … but we have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked but not comprised. We are interested and associated but not absorbed. And should European Statesmen address us in the words which were used of old – ‘Shall I speak for thee to the King or the Lord of the Host?’ – we should reply with the words of the Shunamite woman: ‘Nay sir, for we dwell among our own people …’

    Winston S. Churchill 1946

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    • 183
      Archer Karcher says:

      He was human and had flaws, as we all do. But more importantly than that, he was right.

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    • 185
      Lard Pressclott says:

      Wot’s rong with that ?

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    • 186
      Boy Mulcaster says:

      He may have been, but he was also the best PM since Pitt the Younger who like Pitt took the leadership of his country at its most imperilled and led it as no other could through most dangerous time in human affairs. That he was overweight and suffered from depression just shows you even more what a man he was.

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  46. 78
    Brussels' Sprouts says:

    Nigel Farage says it’s the worst of all worlds. I still think Cameron did the right thing.

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  47. 80
    Robert Edwards says:

    Perfect day. So far. Maybe Cable will resign? Now, that would be perfect…

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  48. 82
    Desperate Dan says:

    Bill Cash and Guido. Soulmates.

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  49. 88
    Cressida Dick-Balls says:

    A good starting point I suppose. But be wary of Camoron. Before the summit he will have asked himself ‘if I do this how will it affect my position?’ Followed by ‘is it in the national interest?’

    I’ll bet his judgement call was along the lines of ‘now I can shut my backbenchers up & marginalise UKIP.’

    It ain’t going to work sonny. Sooner or later an in/out referendum has got to happen, whether you like it or not. You’re fooling no one.

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    • 187
      Archer Karcher says:

      A referendum is eventually inescapable, unless of course, the EU clusterfuck collapses in on itself, before hand.

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  50. 91
    Time wasting scroungers on the BBC. says:

    Who cares. The Eurozone is destroying itself. Good riddance.

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  51. 92
    Comment of the Day says:

    Sarkozy has given Cameron the best quote of his career. He said “It’s because of Cameron we don’t have a new treaty”. That should go in the next manifesto.

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  52. 97
    Chucky, font of all knowledge says:

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  53. 101
    anon. says:

    Country first,unlike this imbecile.

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    • 117
      Michael EUCash-Man says:

      I can still buy Vaseline on the EU credit card right!? We didn’t veto that did we :(

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    • 119
      Elsie Beattie (83 and a quarter) says:

      Dot Cotton should have done for him when she had the chance, dear.

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    • 125
      Chutney Hunter says:

      Cashman couldn’t give a fuck about the national interest

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    • 154
      Judge Dreadful says:

      Time you were sacked. Let’s get out of the EU and have the thieving former MEPs doing something useful like sweeping the streets as part of their community service.

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    • 196
      Britain says:

      MUPpet Cashman:

      Are you telling us that Liebore has never, ever put its party interests first? Or for that matter, put the interest of the unions before those of the ordinary people?

      Methinks we have a kettle/pot/black event here.

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    • 255
      Steve Lloyd says:

      I thought Cashman had died from aids??

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  54. 103
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Douglas Alexander on Daily Politics. Basically he says Cameron is wrong, wrong, wrong. But he can’t say what he would do.

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  55. 110
    The Last Quango in Paris says:

    If you’re not one of the 17 countries in the Euro – why on earth would you sign the new treaty? (serious question).

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  56. 114
    Lord Stansted says:

    Thought Jon Snow was just a “reporter”. Why is he expressing any opinion at all?

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    • 127
      the poodle msm says:

      Haha, welcome to our world.

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    • 149
      I don't need no doctor says:

      Channel 4 news people are always agressive. Snow and that other bloke in glasses think they are better than elected politicians. C4 News, ego city.

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    • 197
      Britain says:

      The noos now, thanks to the likes of the Gonad and the Indescribablyboring and helped by the BBClowns, is all about opinion. The fact it is often misinformed and hostile opinion is not the point.

      Snow and the others like him are pid to ‘interpret’ the noos and tell us their thoughts.

      And now we have listened, we know that empty vessels make the most noise.

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  57. 119
    E17 - Please stay another day says:

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  58. 126
    I don't need no doctor says:

    We at the BBC cannot understand why labour lost over 100 seats at the last election. Neither can we understand why people do not worship Ed Miliband.

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  59. 135
    DANGER says:

    What a surprise — the British media’s usual schoolyard-level analysis of the European situation. It’s as if a bunch of cool kids have decided to do something silly and dangerous. If Britain refuses to join in, it’s the awkward child whom nobody likes; if it goes along, it’s the weak child who follows the crowd.

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  60. 139
    Sick of being of stalked by scrounging Edinburgh dogshite. Time wasters. says:

    Clowns!

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  61. 141
    I don't need no doctor says:

    On today’s Daily Politics who was that 12 year old schoolgirl? Was it Polly’s daughter?

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  62. 153
    AnotherAnon. says:

    Would Labour have sold Britain down the river to avoid being “isolated”?

    Of course.

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  63. 166
    Rupert my Hero says:

    We have a LONG history of not doing what the French & Germans want, the French seem to specialise in diminutive leaders, & the Germans in very bossy ones….. we all know what happened to the last lot ” They don’t like it up em ”
    for once Dave has earned my respect.

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  64. 168
    Colonel Blimp says:

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      Some Geezer wot loves old drinking songs says:

      Well, Colonel, I think we can all rejoice that we’re not playing this old song:

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  65. 169
    Special Ed says:

    Just watched Sharon Bowles (MEP) interview on BBC. She says she’s so upset that she would like to take up Irish citizenship. I will personally buy that traitorous treasonous b1tch a plane ticket if she goes today. I can’t believe we have to put up with these people. Her only concern is clearly that she’ll be out of a job. Hope she loses her seat and she starves to death. Preferably on nothing but potatoes.

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  66. 170
    Dick the Butcher says:

    Guardian journo-bim on Daily Politics doesn’t like it – therefore I am in favour.

    Btw – apart from the editor, are there any male journos at that wretched rag?

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  67. 174
    Very well, alone! says:

    Very well, alone!

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      Mercian says:

      Nice one. Well done Cameron. At last a leader with balls. The usual next step is an alliance with Russia to keep the balance of power.

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  68. 177
    Penfold says:

    Give them all a sword so that they can fall onto it and impale themselves.

    Treacherous bunch of heathens.

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  69. 188
    . . . Adieu Sarkozy says:

    That’s the third time in the last 100 years that a French leader has surrendered his Country to the will of Germany. Don’t they make them with spines over there FFS? As for Angela Merkin – one wouldn’t ordinarily side with Berlusconi but his description of her was absolutely bang on the money!

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  70. 189
    gildedtumbril says:

    The bastard eu needs us at least 100 times more than we need the bleeding bastards.
    Bleeding bastards? Yes, more than £50 million quid a day of future debt pissed into that bottomless hole by one traitor party after another.
    The three ‘main’ arsehole parties plus the scapegoat, con, UKIP(while they Steal) need re-education and or remedial treatment via, tarring, feathering, hanging, drawing, quartering, heads on pikes etc.
    650 traitors in Hoc and 792 similar filth in Hol.
    Damn the lot of them.
    As for the eu, may it burn in marxist hell.

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  71. 191
    gildedtumbril says:

    One wonders whether that bloody merkel tro

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      Anonymous says:

      When do you think Merkel is going to invade the UK? – have I got time to try Amazon for a tin had!!!

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  72. 192
    gildedtumbril says:

    Mea culpa, apologies. keyboard malfunction.
    One wonders whether that bloody merkel creature has a little black ‘tache’, concealed with makeup, of course.

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  73. 193
    Britain says:

    Hi EU

    Thanks for the party. It was fun but… Let’s be honest, it went on a bit longer than anyone liked and frankly, the behaviour of some folk towards the end was a bit, well, nauseating. All those whip rounds you kept organising were too much. Yes, I know we brought a few bottles with us but honestly, we don’t want them back. You keep them and get some money back on the empties.

    So, we better be going. Hope the rest of the party goes well (but watch out that a few people don’t start throwing things soon. I’d hate to see that nice Brussels bent but it’s your party, so good luck)

    Have fun! Oh, and don’t call about another one. We are washing our hair that night.

    Ciao!

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  74. 194
    Mornington Crescent says:

    Denis MacShane: “There is now little point in Britain staying in the EU… It is an historic turning point”.

    Does this mean you will now fuck off back to Poland, Mr. Matyjaszek? I hope so, I really do hope so, you narcissistic little con-artist.

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  75. 195
    Johnny says says:

    The dimwits in the media reveal themselves to be even thicker than I could possibly have imagined.

    Dave didn’t wield the veto – there was no treaty amendment on the table to veto. He even admitted so in saying he ‘effectively wielded the veto’.

    All the Eurozone group has done is agree to try and get various measures through their individual parliaments (which may or may not require some to have a referendum) so that there is no need for treaty amendments, proposed some economic rules even more strict than the laughably ignored Maastricht treaty and left a gaping hole for the member states to ignore the proposals being proposed. The penalties for not meeting the rules will be applied automatically… unless they decide by QMV to not apply them.

    The pantomime continues.

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  76. 201
    Anonymous says:

    If all the commie BBC cnuts and other wankers like the EU so much, piss off and move to frogland. EU bum lickers and scumbags.

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  77. 215
    I hate Blue Labour says:

    Well, let’s not get too excited about all this.

    Wouldn’t surprise me to see Cameron do a u-turn, explaining he got a ‘victory’ for Britain.

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  78. 221
    Anonymous says:

    On the BBC Politics comments a German commented

    “I am sick and tired of the UK. You guys only care about yourself and whinge about Germany all the time… where would Europe be without the German taxpayers? My message to the Brits is: European Union… love it or leave it.”

    Indeed. Where would Europe be without Germany invading Belgioum and France in 1914, and Belgium, Holland, france, Italy, Greece, Yugoslavia, Poland, etc, etc in 1939- 45.

    Lets face it, the only way the Krauts will win any war is by inimidating the little countries in Europe into economic submission. Thank God we have David Cameron to stand up to the bully (Merkel) and midget (Sarcozy).

    By the way, has anyone noticed the similarity between Merkel and Adolf in the later stages of the war.

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      Kenneth Chegwin says:

      My message to the thick Kraut, we’re sick of the Germans bossing Europe about, give us a referendum & your wish will be granted.

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  79. 222
    Sandalista says:

    To my mind it is all about democracy and accountability. In the 1980s the Tories introduced the “Poll Tax”. It was particularly unpopular in Scotland and I’d hazard a guess that it is a contributing factor in the Tories lack of Scottish parliamentary seats. The voters have expressed their opinion in the ballot box. If the “new Integrated Europe” (aka Merkazy) decide that a similar, Europe wide, tax was necessary what say have the poor voters? Nine tenths of knack all is my guess.

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  80. 227
    John Davis says:

    Wonderfully furious David Owen on the Today show this morning. He says it’s an outrage, overturned thirty years of policy, no mandate, we’ll have to change this government…
    I was laughing so loudly my wife thought I was in pain.

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    • 285
      Kenneth Chegwin says:

      Almost as funny as Heseltine when he was asked about a referendum – apparently he thinks that the British people couldn’t possibly want one. Tosser.

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  81. 229
    Sandalista says:

    The LimpDum love Europe no question there. The problem is that the Labour Party DNA includes the need to state that whatever the Tories do or say is wrong. Thus if David Cameron went on TV this afternoon to say today was Friday, Ed Milliband would have to wrestle with his conscience before acknowledging that it is indeed Friday. There again, he might just say “Not in New Zealand it isn’t”.

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  82. 241
    (I've been renamed) DA-Notice says:

    Sweet as a nut this is.

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  83. 242
    Jimmy says:

    So Dave Gimmick’s position is that the UK’s position in the upcoming negotiations is best preserved if he doesn’t take part?

    To be fair, I can see his point.

    Meanwhile concerns mount for the DPM who has now been officially declared missing.

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  84. 243
    old grumpy says:

    I’d not rush to judgement yet.

    The fact is that the Franco/German Axis is hellbent on POWER……….. over ALL of Europe! Its in their Genes (or Jeans)…………. Germany gets a hard-on. La France opens her legs………..

    It makes you wonder about Merkosy’s true sexual predelictions………..

    The provblem nobody seems to be addressing is that the EU is heading to “Managed Democracy”…………. and we all know how Stalin used that!……….

    He wasn’t SO far away from Hitler………

    Once the European man in the street wakes up, all heel is going to be let loose on their streets!……… and it is already happening in Greece, Italy and Spain……….

    Do we really want that in the UK?

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      Kenneth Chegwin says:

      I thought we were heading for the “post-democratic age” in the glorious EU. Tyranny, it always ends badly.

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  85. 245
    WillS says:

    “Needless to say the Guardian is incandescent.”

    The comments on the Guardian articles however appear split 50/50 on the subject. If 50% of Guardian readers support the stance DC took, what do you reckon the support level is out there amongst real people? 60% 70% 80%?

    Even the BBC are allowing that “a majority” of the people contacting them support the decision. In BBC speak, a “majority”, when applied to something they fundamentally disagree with, must mean at least 70%.

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  86. 248
    roman says:

    There appears to be some muddle over what to call the proposed new alliance of 23 Euro states. May I be so bold as to suggest the Fiscal Union of Carolingian Kingdoms – European Project?

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  87. 256
    rcynic says:

    My biggest worry about this is Colonel Blimp Boris thinks that DC “played a blinder”, I wish he had criticised him, I would feel much happier, I have never before agreed with anything Boris had to say.

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  88. 258
    An island race says:

    EU, fook off!

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  89. 260
    I hate Blue Labour says:

    I notice the Guardian aren’t allowing comments on their pro-EU stories.

    How odd… almost as if they know the majority of people don’t agree with their fervent europhile nonsense but don’t want to hear it.

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  90. 262
    Saffron says:

    The referendum on Britain pulling out of this EUSSR failed grab for supreme power must now be on the cards.
    The more we see and hear from this unelected bunch of incompetants the more it amazes me that there are not more demonstrations from the ordinary peoples of the countries involved.
    Cameron has done the right thing in telling them what the bottom line is,however it is only a start point and not the end game.
    Germany and housfrau will shaft France once again and sarcastic won’t be around.
    The end game is not within the power of any of the euro lot it is the markets that will decide when it is dead.

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  91. 263
    confused says:

    I understand that Merkel was raised AND educated in the GDR

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  92. 264
    robbie says:

    The funniest thing is that there is that greasy slug Sarko married to that really hot Bruni burd and he’s going to have to spend the rest of his life in bed with Merkel…

    Ho-HO-Ho- Merry Christmas….Karma’s come early

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  93. 266
    not now cato says:

    I am enjoying all the snouts worrying about their place in the EU trough.

    Who whould dare hold a referendum in Britain?

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