December 9th, 2011

Europe Isolated


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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Well done Dave!

    Hope the party went well Neo ;-)

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    Steve Miliband says:

    Good Party last night at Order order towers?

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    labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    The B-bbc don’t like this one bit, they are thinking of useing their veto on DC and re-joining the17.

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    Kronos says:

    lets see milibandwagon tackle this

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    Geoffrey G Brooking says:

    The man is in good form this week.

    Power to your handbag Dave :-)

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    Ol' Blue Eyes says:

    I will be raising my glass to David Cameron tonight for the first time since the coalition was formed. They may have taken a while to sprout but the lad now has balls.

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    misterned says:

    “The UK is as isolated as somebody who refused to join the Titanic just before it sailed” – City Broker Terry Smith.

    Succinctly put!

    Well done Cameron, now we need the in or out referendum… Or rather, the ” stay on the sidelines being buttfucked” or out referendum!

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    Anonymous says:

    Fog in channel. Continent cut off.

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    Rick the Roman says:

    Is this his Road to Damascus moment? Dave continue the logic you used last night, it inevitably leads in one direction. Britain would be better off out of this socialist-led club than in it. Your moment in history beckons – seize it – give us a straight referendum – In or Out.

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    Ol' Blue Eyes says:

    Has that Euro-fellating piece of trash Denis MacShane tweeted his outrage yet?

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    Steve Miliband says:

    The Franco-German plan for the city of London to prop up the Euro with a Tobin Tax fails.

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    (New layout for tweets, like it Guido)

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    Angela and Nicky says:

    OK, fuck you and we’ll do it, anyway.

    Close the door on the way out, sunshine.

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    graham smith says:

    i want to be past me wellies in europe…..these euro people are better than any of our politicians and we should be guided by their superior motivation and knowledge….not doing the moody sulk on the sidelines with hungary

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    Perse O'Nally says:

    Blimey, has the twat grown a backbone and some balls overnight?

    About time he stood up for this country!!

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    I’ll be there for sure !

    “Keep your mitts off our muffs!” “I love my vagina!” “You’ve put my chuff in a huff!” These are some of the slogans of the Muff March taking place along London’s Harley Street Saturday morning. Its aim? To raise awareness of the increase in gynaecological cosmetic surgery – both on the NHS and in private clinics. The march, which has more than 300 supporters on Facebook, is organised by campaigning group UK Feminista and performance artists The Muffia, who dress up in nude bodysuits decorated with lavish pubic hair.

    At its most modest, the Muff March is against the pornography-influenced obsession with removing pubic hair. But it’s also about protesting against the sort of surgery that makes you cross your legs. Typical procedures on offer include labiaplasty (trimming or removing the labia) and vaginal rejuvenation (tightening – usually referred to by “designer vagina”).

    In the US this industry is worth $6.8m (£4.4m). In the UK the latest figures come from a 2009 report in the British Journal of Obstetrics and Gynaecology. It revealed that in 2008 the number of operations increased by 70% compared with the previous year: 1,118 labiaplasty operations on the NHS. (There were 669 in 2007 and 404 in 2006.) And that’s just the NHS. The Harley Medical Group reported over 5,000 inquiries about cosmetic gynaecology last year, 65% for labial reduction.

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    Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

    Bravo Dave, Bravo. They’ve screwed us and insulted us for long enough. Let them sort out their own mess, if they can. Who cares if they don’t like it?

    The BBC, of course, are dragging every man and his dog on to the screen and radio that they can who will slag Cameron off.

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    Bravo Dave says:

    Well done to Dave. He delivers at last. Of course the BBC are saying it’s a failure of his negotiations. They said he didn’t clarify what the interests are that he says he’s protecting. And if he’d agreed they’d be saying he caved in to Europe.

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    Perse O'Nally says:

    Well fuck off to Euroland then…sooner the better!

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    Up sh1t creek says:

    Not quite a victory.

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    misterned says:

    The BBC are in bereft shock at this. Sky are reading out tweets from people who support Cameron in growing a pair and telling the French and Germans to piss off!

    They were wanting to steal from the City of London and Cameron was right in telling the thieving bastards to fuck off!

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Is this the friday caption contest ?

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    from Spain. says:

    Isolated the new word on the block,i suppose we will have this rammed down our throats by all the supporting Euro fanatics.
    here in Spain that word just about sums up the people Isolated from the real world.

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    Penfold says:

    Lets just analyse his words to ensure he really did say “get stuffed”, he’s a typical slippery polly who never means what he says.

    Now, saying no is the first step to holding a referendum, see how easy it is Dave…….

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    The BBC fails the patriotism test(again) says:

    The BBC in full anti-patriotic mode..they are beside themselves with rage and grief that their beloved EU has been inconvenienced.What IS wrong with the UK bailing out the Euro they ask incredulously??

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    zenbadger says:

    Clare Bowles MEP is threatening to quit this country and go and be an irish citizen as the result of this decision, is there any fund that one can donate to to encourage this?

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    misterned says:


    It is a good first step. Now he needs to go further, I suspect that he will not, unless forced.

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    In the long term says:

    The euro is not a thing worth fighting for or against per se, any more than the thaler, the groat or the dubloon was. Currencies are mere tokens. What matters is that France and germany cannot stitch up decisions between themselves like a pair of playground bullies and them go round scaring everyone into line. The need to be told play nicely or we won’t play with them at all.

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    Gordon Brown says:

    I’d have protected Britain’s interests by doing a huge plop while gurning.

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    Sue says:

    “Europe Isolated” – I love it! We are not little Europeans, we are global players!

    Sarkozy was mad, wanted to get his hands on our money… now we should leave and let the project self-destruct!

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    Ampers says:

    I am deeply sceptical of anything Cameron says or does.

    I will hold fire with any praise until at least two weeks after he returns from Brussels. This man is as cunning as a cartload of monkeys and I truely believe he doesn’t have the interest of the English in his heart.

    Surely by now, we know the political classes fear the English and are doing everything they can to undermine them.


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    Mehdi is a tool says:

    Sky the same, none of them say what they would have done or what CMD should have done, just slag him off.

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    Tax Payer says:

    OK, the UK won’t play. So what?

    France and Germany can bring the critical mass with them and leave us, er, isolated. We’ll either join in eventually, or be swept along in their wake.

    Is this really a victory?

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    misterned says:

    He is right. It is a good thing that Cameron said no, but he should go further now and give us a referendum on membership.

    Had Cameron capitulated on this, he would have been finished. He has done the minimum possible to survive and that did take some balls. Albeit a small and un-developed pair.

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    soooo predictable, it's like a fucking soap opera script says:

    Sigh, they’ll hold some more talks, and then he’ll say yes.

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    labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    I, err, I mean they, j u s t don’t get it?????

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    The lights are going out all over Europe... was Sarkozy to blame ?? says:

    So it starts…….Rumours that Sarkozy deliberately went out of his way to scupper any possible compromise with Cameron over granting UK the necessary protection of the City …so rather than Cameron scuppering the treaty it was Sarkozy ?? Mmm…….the spin is deafening

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    misterned says:

    At least SKY are reading out tweets from supporters saying Cameron has done the right thing

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    H A P P Y says:

    There’s only one david cameron. One david cameroooon.

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    Close the door on the way out...thank you says:

    Goodbye can you take any more with you ??

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    Perse O'Nally says:

    Of course it’s a victory. How long do you realistically give the Euro? Probably until the next crisis I’d have thought.

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    Democracy Now says:

    Even one less Euro-trougher sponging off us wpuld be a result. Sadly, some other hoon will no doubt step up to the buffet.

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    Major Eyeswater says:

    Marvellous news. Thank you Dave. Now bide your time for the referendum – as soon as the power grabs from Brussels under the new euro caucus start and the British people get a taste of the brave new world on offer.

    We are going to take back our country come what may.

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    Dead Ed says:

    Miliwank must be beside himself this morning. He probably had his speech already written attacking Dave for caving in. What can he say now? He’ll probably ask Cameron if he knows exactly how much of a carbon footprint his visit to Brussels left. When all else fails, he resorts to insignificant details to look clever which Labour backbenchers dutifully cheer.

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    JH says:

    We took a step towards being a free island nation, set to out-compete a socialist hellhole continent next door.

    It’s a victory in that Dave didn’t surrender immediately, but at least he is starting to notice what colour his rosette is at last.

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    Judge Judy & Executioner says:

    The last time I looked at Sky today there was was a poll of 85% to 15% for a referendum.

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    graham smith says:

    is cambridge not in europe anymore you abusive cretin

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    Dead Ed says:

    Sky says MiliHunt has accused Cameron of failing to build an alliance. What an utter, utter, utter cock.

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    misterned says:

    Miliband talking anti-British bollocks! He would have given in and given away the same City of London that labour cynically used to “boost growth” in lieu of creating a manufacturing economy.

    Miliband is a craven traitor.

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    Frans Xaver Gruber - Bitte Entschuldigungen says:

    Barstardised rhyme, caption time
    Guido’s alright, Neo’s still tight
    Will Bill win it or will he be screwed
    The vodka, the whusky so carefully brewed
    Please give our Billy a piece
    Please give us all some PEACE

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    Gonk says:

    I’m going to buy a large bottle of sherry – a much maligned drink –
    and greedily gulp the fucking lot down. Good news after a tough week.

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    Raymond Chandler says:

    The cnuts at the BBC are only interested in putting DC in the frame and not interested in what Merkozy’s and ‘Europe’ are doing!! Wee Dougiee twatface was wriggling this morning about liebour’s position! Toenails was laughing about it all, he is a full-weighter that Hunt!

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    I do not want to share the same air as meddling, scrounging, time wasting Edinburgh dogshit. Going round in circles. Sick of it! says:

    Fuck Off Merkozy! Well done Dave!

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    Selohesra says:

    Clare moving her Bowels – we’ll probably get over it

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    We stood alone before, 1940 says:

    Well done Dave, credit where it’s due

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    Judge Judy & Executioner says:

    Balls: what Cameron wishes he had and what Miliband wishes he hadn’t.

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    Prometheus says:

    “Arm yourselves, and be ye men of valour, and be in readiness for the conflict; for it is better for us to perish in battle than to look upon the outrage of our nation and our altar.”

    Winston Churchill

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    i'll keep saying this says:

    Britain desperately needs a version of Fox News, BBC and Sky are stuffed to the gunnels with the same limp wristed, bed wetting lefties.

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    The boy done good.

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    The Bandwagon is on hold until Labour are briefed how to react says:

    Awaiting polling of public response…likewise Clegg is lying low

    If massive public support then Miliband will support the actions of the PM….otherwise he will of course attack this as a bad decision.Howver I suspect that the majority of the UK population will approve much to the BBC(and LibDem)rage

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    misterned says:

    I agree with the sentiment behind these figures.

    Cameron was right to say no and now we need a referendum.

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    God says:

    What you are all missing is the fact that Cameron failed to use imagination and skill to outmanoeuvre Merkozy et al! Instead, in abject capitulation to the lunatic fringe of his own party, he just stamped his foot in petulant negativity, used the veto and now Britain sits on its own. The lunatics are frothing at the mouth with glee as the asylum burns down around them!

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    Anonymous says:

    Good. Piss off and don’t come back.

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    BillyBob... says:

    Send the buggers back !!

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    BillyBob... says:

    Only one winner here….. the UK !!

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    Loungelizard says:

    Don’t forget that Salmond is taking money from France and Germany to destabilize Westminster.

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    Democracy Now says:

    Time to isolate the BBC.

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    Mulberry's Harbour says:

    Well done, Dave!

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    God says:

    I think not!

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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    You should be history, Denis says:

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    Anonymous says:

    David Milliband tweets that he would have signed up.

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    Democracy Now says:

    Who cares what Sarkozy thinks? He is a busted flush, a mere sidekick.

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    a good day to bury bollocks says:

    Meanwhile this criminal is still let loose, screwing us over with his global warming bollocks.

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    Don't let Gordon bully the pandas says:

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    Sir Aston Martin says:

    Who’d have thunk it?

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    Mrs T says:

    I though we had appointed a eunuch, it appears David has a pair, but not yet as developed as mine.

    Well done young David!

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    Lord Stansted says:

    WTF is Clare Bowles MEP? Is MEP her surname?

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    Goddess, Empress, Dictator, Frau Merkel says:

    You will all obey me eventually. Naughty Cameron poodle, no biccy for you today.

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    Desperate Dan says:

    Presumably he is going to apply the same logic to every other treaty and agreement we’ve signed. Let’s start by telling NATO and the UN to piss off next time they think we might be prepared contribute anything towards the greater good.

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    labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    Now, now, come on graham smith, there’s a good chap, he didn’t say Europe, he said euroland, and we all know what that means, don’t we.

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    Great British Public says:

    “Every step that tends to make Europe more prosperous and more peaceful is conducive to British interests … but we have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked but not comprised. We are interested and associated but not absorbed. And should European Statesmen address us in the words which were used of old – ‘Shall I speak for thee to the King or the Lord of the Host?’ – we should reply with the words of the Shunamite woman: ‘Nay sir, for we dwell among our own people …’

    Winston S. Churchill 1946

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    Nicknackpaddywack says:

    Reporting to his dutch masters? Getting ready for a life in exile in Spain? Who cares?

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    But of course:

    For gouging, democracy-fearing politicians, any reduction of our entanglement with the EU is a Bad Thing Indeed.

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    God says:

    Can’t you see what Cameron has done? The UK has gained nothing and has alienated itself from the main block of the EU, with nothing in mitigation. That’s NOT clever! If Cameron had been up to the job instead of attempting to placate the idiots on the fringe by announcing a suicide pact with Hungary, he would have negotiated an outcome which gave the UK what it wanted, while keeping it inside the decision-making circle. It’s easy to say “no”, but it takes skill and imagination to negotiate successfully!!!!

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    BillyBob... says:

    Not quite on it’s own, but you are suggesting that Merkozy and co are right and we are wrong??

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    Nicknackpaddywack says:

    Lord Haw haw said something similar about Churchill just after Dunkirk

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    Spartacus says:

    dont celebrate too quickly.
    As someone else said here, i am deeply sceptical of anything Cameron says or does.
    We wait, then will see what he has given away.

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    misterned says:

    Apparently he has sent a text message to a BBC journalist saying “this shows how weak Cameron is and the folly of not building alliances in the EU in the weeks running up to this summit”

    What a fuckwit!

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    Wise up, ballbags says:

    Cameron is not to be trusted. More fool anyone on here who thinks he has stood up for the UK.
    The billions still pour from this country into EU funds.

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    Anonymous says:

    Aren’t we all missing the point any way?

    Even when they go on their own, it will not solve their indebtedness.

    It does not save the Euro, just a power grab by the Germans and French. The others agreed because the Germans are giving all their money to them. So no surprise there then. As for the French well I don’t think we even need to comment do we. They are used to having 2 governments any way aren’t they?

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    Judge Judy & Executioner says:

    No need to donate, zen. Sureley she can afford this. Its even a bargain to the taxpayer!,PPC,dublin+airlines

    £39. Bye bye Clare!

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    Anonymous says:

    Does anyone have Clare Bowles e-mail address? Seriously.

    These fu****s don’t make it easy to find them.

    I’d like to send her the money to f*** off.

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    BillyBob... says:

    Oh yes we are……. :)

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    who do you think you're kidding mr shittler says:

    You’re not God, you’re the ghost of Neville Chamberlain. No doubt you would have let Merkozy stage the coup over the City that they’ve always planned for, you stupid fucking stooge.

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    God says:

    Aptly put!

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    Desperate Dan says:

    I don’t think paying taxes or obeying the law is in my best interests so I’ll follow Dave’s lead and do what I like in future.

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    Sir Gilbert Fiddler says:

    This is one of the most erudite and knowledgeable statements I have ever read!

    It sums up the inescapable truth that internal actions such as these were no match for the good people of Yurrop when I was Prim Monster.

    Thank you.

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    misterned says:

    And a bloody good thing too!!!

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    Sir Aston Martin says:

    My feelings too, misterned.

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    Once a cunt, always a cunt says:

    You know the answer to that.

    Cameron was read the riot act by senior Conservatives before he went and told that he was finished if he didn’t appear to oppose the proposals. All he’s doing is trying to save his own skin.

    As soon as he thinks it’s safe to return to normal behaviour, he will do. This is likely to be a temporary expedient that might fool the most gullible.

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    Spartacus says:

    the slimeball cameron has got something up his sleeve. be sure of it. we will all be singing ode to joy as our national anthem in a couple of years.

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    BillyBob... says:

    Looks like a little stumbling block in the German plan to make Frankfurt the financial leader in Europe…..

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    Lord Stansted says:

    They only talk to their own kind anyway. Motto: “Lefties shall speak unto Lefties”.

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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    cheche says:

    In any coverage of the EU the BBC should declare how much money it gets from them

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    Panda says:

    What do I want with a Nokia?

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    who do you think you're kidding mr shittler says:

    Yeah, like it was a fucking disaster that we were ‘isolated’ out of the ERM, you twat.

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    Sir Aston Martin says:

    Something tells me this text is not entirely your own work.

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    Jack Dromey (Mrs) says:

    I got rid of mine without surgery. Easy.

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    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    I think this is the correct approach. We need to watch closely now as to what Cameron signs us up for. It would not surprise me in the least to find that this whole shebang was cooked up to give Merkozy the deal they want but let Cameron look like he is standing for the UK.

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    Boy Mulcaster says:

    Fantastic Millebean the Helium Queen just Tweeted himself out of No. 10 forever! The knob has no idea of popular feeling on this issue he must believe all the crap his team tell him.

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    Steve Miliband says:

    Labour, as usual were silent on this up until this morning, just so they could oppose any possible outcome.

    The Gutless Party

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    Once a cunt, always a cunt says:

    his rosette is Dave coloured, he doesn’t give a shit about anything other than his own self interest.

    Heir to Blair remember.

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    desperately dan says:

    I’m not sure it’s a good thing that God agrees with you Dan.

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    Sir Aston Martin says:

    “Isolate” comes from the Latin “insula”, i.e. an island. Britain is an island, and has been since the last Ice Age, 35,000 years ago.

    There is nothing pejorative about isolation. Quite the contrary. They are rotten jealous, like all foreigners!

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    I saved the world you know
    Only i can save Europe , Now where do i sign ?

    Noo Noo I’ll read it later !

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    Ol' Blue Eyes says:

    Wish the CPS would hurry up and get him put away. At this rate the prisoners I have bribed to rape him in the showers will be out by the time he is in.

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    Lord Stansted says:

    The euro will be gone before Easter. Dave will get the blame!

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    Tax Payer says:

    This isn’t about the Euro. That’s already dead. It’s about the next phase of the EU development, which will make the last 20 years seem like a tea party.

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    Sir Aston Martin says:

    Oops, the door banged her on the arse on the way out …

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    God says:

    Very intelligent! (not). How do you think the UK would do if it were to be isolated from the EU? Silly boy!

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    Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

    + 100.

    Re: Dave – I’m glad he walked away. There’s no way he is going to let them mess with our financial sector because of the income it generates for this country, and if that means we have to leave the EU, I’m sure he won’t stand in the way.

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    Loungelizard says:

    Well done Dave! can’t be east when you’ve got ‘Lentil Breath’ breathing down your neck and sighing heavily at every decision you try to make. Perhaps something we all tend to forget, now do something else sensible.

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    Provincial Peasant says:

    Brown’s decision on the Euro did not seem to do British industry much good, and it’s not clear how Cameron’s decision will help longer-term British interests generally, as opposed to the interests of the City of London.

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    Our finest hour says:

    When do the Russians and Americans arrive?

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    Jabba the Cat says:

    “This man is as cunning as a cartload of monkeys and I truely believe he doesn’t have the interest of the English in his heart.”

    You are referring to EUKIP’s lead trougher Farage?

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    the modus operandi of the eu for decades finally revealed shocker says:

    Oh fuck, we’ve been rumbled.

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    RED ED - SON OF BROWN says:

    Bring that bandwagon back !!

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    Labour really need to get rid of little Ed
    he’s a fuckin embarrassment , Not just to labour ,but to the whole country

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    Metaphorica says:

    The asylum which is on fire is the Euro. It is their currency, not ours. Merkel and Sarkozy are like arsonists who won’t let the fire brigade help put the fire out unless they can direct the hoses

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    I don't need no doctor says:

    Last night on QT one guy called Ed Miliband a yapping poodle. How very apt, the unions yapping poodle. Has Miliband made any comment yet on the veto, or is he still waiting for his scrpit from Barber, Prentis and Serwotka?
    Germany and France and the other EU countries want to tax the City of London banks to pay for EU overspending.
    One last thought, imagine if the yapping poodle had been at the conference.
    The BBC, fuckwit lefties. Why is Matthew Umwalladingdong over in Brussels. How many BBC tossers do they need over there?

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    Charles de Gaulle says:


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    ginger minger says:

    she is fucking thick. Farage savaged her the other week. worth watching how stupid she was.

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    zenbadger says:

    sorry, its sharon bowles not clare bowles.

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    Mark says:

    BBC News Bias unbelievable this morning….the mask has totally slipped….. right a complaint to the BBC with the online Form…..

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    bergen says:

    I don’t think this deal is enough to save the euro anyway and it is therefore better not to be a party to it.

    Sarko will get his comeuppence sometime in the New Year.

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    I don't need no doctor says:

    QT member of the audience desribed Miliband as a yapping poodle.

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    Iloathlefties says:

    He knew the mood of the country/party thats why he did this. It was pure self interest, not national interest as he knows he would be ousted from the leadership otherwise!

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    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    Dave has stood up for his mates in the City. Let’s not confuse that with standing up for Britain.

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    No to Franco-German Empire says:

    What! The likes of Barroso the Trot are better? Relocate, sonny.

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    smoggie says:

    No, the Germans are trying to give British money to them. That is what Cameron has ostensibly prevented.

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    Pepe Le Guff says:

    More power to Brussels? I have trouble keeping my pants on at the Christmas day lunch as it is. Mind you, sprouts do fit nicely inside a party popper so that’s one way of getting rid of them.

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    Metaphorica says:

    We have been isolated from the EU since its inception. The EU is a Franco-German pact to dominate the continent instead of fighting each other. Britain has never had a central role because no-one has ever wanted Britain to have one.

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    once a cunt, always a cunt says:

    Cameron – “skill and imagination”? Don’t hold your breath.

    Try “desperation” and “naked self interest”

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    They wanted to tax the city (eu) to bailout thier own countries.

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    Mark says:

    BBC News bias really unbelievable this morning….
    the mask has totally slipped….. right a complaint to the BBC with the online Form…..

    BBC = Big state, European federalism, technocrats, Unions ALL GOOD

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    Silly little boy says:

    Why hasnt Ed the tit gone to Durban to save the world, like he did in Copenhagen.

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    the only way is norway says:

    Yeah, like they’re gonna stop trading with us, you stupid fucker.

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    pissed off voter says:

    Before you get carried away in toasting DC, consider what options he had.

    1. veto treaty change and become a scapegoat for the EU bureaucracy.

    2. Agree the treaty change and become a target for UK electorate.

    Lousy choices but He’s a politician and re-election is high-priority. This veto decision does not neccessarily mean he has suddenly grown a pair.

  152. 152
    Lord Halifax says:

    If only Winston would have listened!

  153. 153
    The IMF says:

    So you might think..

  154. 154
    I Hate Tesco AND the Pope says:

    ANORAK CORNER: you distill vodka and whisky and brew beer, but never mind, we can celebrate Dave’s move yesterday with whatever comes to hand and mouth.

  155. 155
    Goddess, Empress, Dictator, Frau Merkel says:

    Well done Miliband poodle, extra biccy for you today. When you accept me as your Leader I will even get you a new basket and blanket.

  156. 156
    Perse O'Nally says:

    Actually, Cambridge (note the capital) is in England and it’s time you remembered it. Or does the word England grate with you?

  157. 157
    Broom and dust says:

    Why would the Foreign Legion want him?

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    a non says:

    Europhiles and Neurophiles.
    Those crazy for staying in and those losing their marbles hoping to get out.
    English ex pat from a-far, I see both sides of the argument qua positives and negatives yet must support Dave’s Conservative stance here. Country comes first where foreigners would massage the rules to suit their own wallet.
    Possible referendum or not my only vain hope is you will lose the present coalition and clear the decks for future action without the LibDem albatross around you neck.
    Labour remain the dead duck in the water but proof of the pudding will be LibDem Clegg’s desire to maintain his tenuous grasp at being the parallel voice at the top table, diluting the positive message being sent out.

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    Major Eyeswater says:

    Bill Cash was just up on sky. Can’t help feeling very grateful that we have people like him who have plugged away against the EU for so long.

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    Sir Jimmy Saville (Deceased) says:

    Now then, now then, guys and gals. Here we have a letter from a young lady. She says:

    Dear Jim’ll Fixit,
    Can you fix it for me and my friend Nicolas Nosey to save the Euro?
    Thank you,
    Angela Merkel (aged 57)

    Notice how she said ‘Thank you’. Very polite young lady. Anyway. No, sorry, love. Its fucked.

  161. 161
    eddie izzards left tit says:

    Euroland is fucked, get over it.

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    Dave says:

    Rejoice! Rejoice! Great Britain finally stands eye to eye with the dominant powerhouse of Europe, er, Hungary!

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    Well it's a thought says:

    I’d hang on congratulating Davey , it ain’t over until it’s over, give us a referendum, let’s talk to where the money is and will be the Commonwealth, that’s where our trade is.

  164. 164
    Timmytour says:

    My nomination for Tweet of the year……

    In reaction to Ed Milliband’s tweet this morning….

    Ed_Miliband Ed Miliband
    Outcome at last night’s EU summit was a sign of weakness from David #Cameron – why did he fail to build alliances before the summit?

    I saw this response…

    Mr_Eugenides Mr Eugenides
    @ @Ed_Miliband You couldn’t even build an alliance with your own brother, Mr Miliband, so I hardly think you’re in a position to carp.

    Tweeting gold!

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    Gok Wok says:

    “Isolated” is the new “Independent” – we should enjoy it

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    Hungary uber Alles says:

    The mighty Magyars salute the spastic Brits!

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    Morning star says:

    Dear God,

    To negotiate there must be two or more parties willing to trade ideas, or benefits with each other to achieve a mutually satisfactory outcome, or at least, and outcome that all agree.

    There was nothing of the sort here.

    A bit of a Hobsons’ choice if you will.

    As in all negotiations, gody my dear omnipotent being type, all parties have the ability to not proceed further when they feel that their needs are not being met.

    To hear Miliband talking about influence, is to understand that he doesn’t really care about what is right, but about looking right.

    Dont get me wrong, I am a VERY big fan of the EU as a free trade area, but it does not come at the cost of British sovereignty, or the right of self determination.

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    Desperate Dan says:

    If that was the case the FTSE would have gone up not down.

  169. 169
    Harold says:

    Totally gobsmacked. Dave has done the right thing for once.

  170. 170
    The Sleeper says:

    Farage on Pravda saying this was a sign of weakness from DC…DC should have threatened a referendum….the midget beeboid (I forget his name) in raptures about this position….FFS.

    Of course,Farage has to say this as DC has pissed all over his bonfire,giving him nothing to whinge about .

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    No to Franco-German Empire says:

    What will the Hungarian Dwarf do when Germany starts threatening France’s interests? No chance for re-election then!

  172. 172
    I don't need no doctor says:

    I’ve just said that. Stop copying!

  173. 173
    Lord Stansted says:

    “the main block of the EU”

    Would they be the ones who would allow the ECB to be a *central bank* in name only? Would they be the ones who would allow a single market to exist in name only? I they are then I suggest “the main block” should be replaced by “the idiot block”.

  174. 174
    John (Sorry about the Maastricht f*ck-up) Major says:

    As if . . . .

  175. 175
    Bono Is A Dick says:

    The thick Jocks will sign up bankrupt themselves like the last time they thought they where an ‘empire’ and we will end up buying them dirt cheap again.

  176. 176
    Desperate Dan says:

    I don’t think its in Britain’s best interest to have a Conservative government.

  177. 177
    G Brown - lover of prudence says:

    Never forget I kept you out of the Euro La La Land.

    Hard luck Ireland your rate of Corporation Tax is going to increase. Hello Google, Twitter, Facebook, Microsoft etc. welcome to the UK!

    Well Alex Salmon are going to lead my fellow countrymen off to join Euro La La Land?

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    we dont have a conservitive government.

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    pissed off voter says:


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    Anonymous says:

    Aye, saw it and had a good chuckle.

    I still can’t find any bloody contact information for these troughing c*u*n*ts.

    I’m not the best on searching, but right now – they’re fucking uncontactable.

    Anyone got a lead on her email?

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    misterned says:

    Blame??? more like he should glorify in taking credit for it.

  182. 182
    eddie izzards left tit says:

    Yep, he’ll sign up to something eventually that the rest of us will only become aware of in the small print weeks later. It’s how the EU has always operated.

  183. 183
    LabourNutter says:

    Dave says no to the EU – prepare for Technocracy!!!!

    All hail Prime Minister Mandelson – coming soon!!

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    Rhonddapurple says:

    EU: “Give us the f*cking money then piss off and die.”

    Cammy: “Ummmm…..On this occasion, I don’t think I will.”

    Cynical voter: “Oh well done Dave.”

    Britische Rundfunksanstalt (aka the BBC) “Nein! Ve are alone! Only ze Hungarians are mit uns, und ve all know vot zey are like! Zis could mean ze country hav to stand on its own zwei feet and make decisions in ze interest of Britische schweins!”

    Ed Milimetre: “Cameron – What an idiot, thtanding up for the country which he representth! LMFAO! (Ith thith right Ed?)”

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    And another thing. says:


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    Graf Mercedes von Audi durch Tecnik says:

    Indeed Sir Aston Martin, with your Cologne-made V8/V12 engine, your ex-BMW German Boss, and Arab owners, who’d have thunk that the spastic Brits would have sunk so low as to be celebrating their open slavery to the criminals in the Square Mile and to be on a par with the might of Hungary. You spastics really are psychotic.

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    pissed off voter says:

    you are confusing the EU with the greater good.

  188. 188
    Desperate Dan says:

    The veto has Conservative Little Englander fingerprints all over it.

  189. 189
    Lord Stansted says:

    “This isn’t about the euro.”

    What planet are you on. Like a true eurotwat, you’re always dreaming about the future. We need to solve today’s problem first, and right now the only problem in town is the euro.

  190. 190
    Tom Watson says:

    Yes. The City of London is so caring and constructive for Britain.

    This was done for the bankers NOT the people.

    You poor deluded fucks.

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    artboyusa says:

    I am amazed, truly. I was all set for the sell-out-as-usual and now this…never too late for the sell out, though. When we get our referendum, then I’ll believe it.

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    a non says:

    Cuddly Pandas one week and Save the Camel Toe the next.
    Billy , you amaze me.
    Never had you down as a supporter of split infinitives

  193. 193
    Desperate Dan says:

    And not a penny of my money should go to supporting anyone or anything but me.

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    Ol' Blue Eyes says:

    You’re welcome!

  195. 195
    Up sh1t creek says:

    Nigel Farage on RT….

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    SouthEastVoter says:

    splendid isolation

  197. 197
    Nick Clegg says:

    Then you have nothing to worry about.

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    Moussa Koussa says:

    The analogy bouncing around is “jumped off Titanic”.


    “Jumped off the Super tanker, which does have a slight repairable oil leak, into the canoe”

    No friends in EU, US, South America, Russia….. Look to the East and the East only. God help us.

    Jacob Rees Mogg is delighted…The alarm bells should be ringing

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    Bono Is A Dick says:

    Milliband would of been eaten alive by Sarkozy and Merkel.

    Build a fucking ‘alliance’ who fucking with? They are all in the same boat.

    No doubt if Millipede was in Dave’s shoes right now the BBC would be spinning it as a great victory……

  200. 200
    Moussa Koussa says:

    City Bonus day is within 2 weeks. We shall finally see who Dave stands up for

  201. 201
    Matthew Amawillywally says:

    If you’re going to call me a brown poofter, have the decency to spell my name correctly.

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    Oh The Irony says:

    LOL you nob it’s impossible to repair most super tanker leaks.

    Shows how much you know you fucking cretin.

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    Timmytour says:

    The same people writing off the Euro now were writing off Liverpool’s chances of winning the Premiership this time last year…….

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    Well it's a thought says:

    Don’t mind paying taxes for little England but I certainly don’t want to pay tax for 28 other countries if you love the EU so much why not pay our taxes as well, Iam sure you will be happy doing that.

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    Ol' Blue Eyes says:

    Oh please let him go on this next Wednesday. Please. Do you think he’s that dumb?

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    Win Win says:

    No not Isolation. We are still free to trade with the ever reducing European economy and we are also in a more free position to determine our own destiny.

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    Frans says:

    Alcoholic licence and poetic licence necessitated the deliberate error.

    Been gazing too deep in the glass to worry

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    God says:

    So, you’re happy for your money to to UK public-sector “penpushers” eh?

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    dodgy byzantium geezers says:

    He didn’t threaten a referendum ‘cos they’re cooking something in secret up that’ll eventually be palatable to both sides. Watch this space.

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    TheRealJoePublic says:

    You don’t believe any of that pish-talk do you ?? , the ONLY reason he didn’t sign us up to the EUSSR 2.0 was because the City of London told him not to. Welcome to Plantation UK.

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    David Cameron is King says:

    It was a brave decision considering how complex and dangerous the situation is in Europe. It was also the right decision for our country. Why should we be relegated to being second class citizens for that appalling mess in Europe? Why should we play second fiddle to a bunch of technocrats who clearly do not know their ass from the elbow and who are only using the system to line their pockets? Why should we be held democratically to for the mess that Merkozy, the ECB and the elite created?
    Well Done David Cameron. Labour would be crawling up Merkozy bottoms if they were still in power. Cameron showed great courage and leadership today.

  213. 213
    Doug Cheverst says:

    It must be so obvious to the3 average Brit that we have three enemies:- France, Germany, and the BBC [an organisation that employs one of the most left-wing crew going, assisted by one of the most unsuccessful businessmen in the country…..] PLEASE DAVE, GIVE US THAT REFERENDUM

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    G Brown - lover of prudence says:

    Gauleiter Merkel wants to introduce a new Golden Rule into Euro La La Land country institutions. Remember I had a Golden Rule, its my invention!

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    LOL says:

    Moussa dear you have truly lost your marbles. But never fear I am sure Belgium (an invented country) will wrlcome you with open arms. Bye Bye.

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    Jabba the Cat says:

    It probably hasn’t dawned on the EUKIP sheeple yet, but Cameron has made EUKIP even more irrelevant overnight. This will be borne out in the by-election result next week when EUKIP will remain at the fringe.

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    YorkshireLad says:

    Good point POV – may I add that the wants to be re-elected WITHOUT the coalition baggage.

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    rocknrolla says:

    Has the word “odious” ever been more apt than in the usual description of “the odious Denis MacShame”? He really is a traitor like the rest of them. No wonder Blair was so desperate to change the law to stop treason being punished by hanging.

    Today is the first day I can remember actually thinking anything good about CallMeDave. Of course once he has got a talking to from Clegg and Toynbee he might change his tune but for once he stuck up for Britain.

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    Desperate Dan says:

    No, our enemies are the BBC, the US and Israel.

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    hate to say I told you so says:

    Using ‘little englander’ as a pejorative term just won’t wash anymore pal. The Euro is fucked, thanks to the same moronic nutters who created it. Get over it.

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    pissed off voter says:


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    Steve Miliband says:

    Moldovan Communist Party?

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    Ol' Blue Eyes says:

    How pissed off must the LibDems be this morning? LOL

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    SOS says:

    If a super tanker is leaking it means both hulls have been penetrated below the water line and it is going to go down slowly and create a shit load of mess. Enjoy your voyage on the EUSSR superstate Moussa as it will be your last.

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    misterned says:

    How would the UK do? Very very nicely indeed outside the poisonous straightjacket of the EU! The sooner we are free from that profoundly anti-democratic Marxist failure, the better.

    Bring on a referendum!!!

  226. 226
    Tijuana Jack Dromey (Ms) says:

    South of the Border, tra la la

  227. 227
    Anonymous says:

    Well there are less of them. Do the fucking math.

  228. 228
    J alan jones says:

    Mr Prime Minister, Congratulations, independence from the continent has always been in our best interest. Trade only, Keep clear from another little Napoleon.

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    Well it's a thought says:

    Shame Liebour didn’t stand up for the people of Britain when it came to the EU instead they let Brown sneak into Brussels the following day to sign us up to Europe, he even went to the courts on the referendum promise, we still remember chuckles, you need to find someone who can repair your slipped halo.

  230. 230
    Ol' Blue Eyes says:

    Eurosceptics are all Man U supporters?

  231. 231
    Ol' Blue Eyes says:

    Your slight repairable oil leak has covered Greece in an oil slick.

  232. 232
    you twat says:

    “Hope we end up as isolated as Norway and Switzerland, the two richest countries in Europe.”

  233. 233
    pissed off voter says:

    right both times. Do they have a fancy for the grand national?

  234. 234
    Sir Jimmy Saville (Deceased) says:

    Jonah’s Curse has now doomed them to extinction. ‘Ows about that then?

  235. 235
    Osama the Nazarene says:

    Miliband the Papademos and Monti EU Cuckoo in our nest!

  236. 236
    Ol' Blue Eyes says:

    Since when does what private companies choose to pay their employees got anything to do with the government? And even if it had, why would a government with huge debts demand they give their employees less taxable income?

  237. 237
    Loungelizard says:

    Roll over Sarcozy and tell Frau Merkel Dave’s views!

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    Anon. says:

    Whether you like it or not, the City provides billions for this country which pay for your beloved NHS, schools, etc, etc. Where would you get the money from which would be lost? Oh yes, that’s right, let’s just… borrow some more! That’s Labour’s answer to everything, isn’t it?

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    The Sleeper says:

    LOL….Have you heard that DC told Merkel and Sarkozy that if they go ahead with an inner circle treaty..they can’t hold meetings in the EU building,as it belongs to the entire EU..not a smaller group?


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    Anonymous says:

    Hey Moussa,

    Remember Labour lost, right?

    Your boys just lost again.

    Funny how everybody is always out of step but you, eh?


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    Jabba the Cat says:

    Farage looks the perfect spiv in his spiv suit.

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    Mutti's Dackel says:

    In a way this vindicates Cameron’s refusal to try and repatriate powers, as even the ‘cheaper’ deal was not accepted by the EU.

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    Now now says:

    There are better websites for this sort of thing and with pictures. What the fcuk are you posting this crap on here for?

  244. 244
    misterned says:

    So going to prison is? I’m sure you’ll enjoy being raped in the showers

  245. 245
    UKBA says:

    Can we blow-op our end of the tunnel now??

  246. 246
    Steve Miliband says:

    So will Scotland want to join Croatia on the good ship Titanic?

  247. 247
    Finite resources mean finite growth says:

    Unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats snubbed in favour of unelected and unaccountable spivs.


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    Anon. says:

    They are jealous because we arn’t part of their euro-mess.

  249. 249
    Rickytshirt says:

    There is a world of difference between the euro and the thaler, groat and dubloon. The later are made of precious metals and so are intrinsically valuable and therefore worth fighting for. The euro is just a receipt for participation in a ponzi scheme.

  250. 250
    Steve Miliband says:

    Better get that aircraft carrier built pronto

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    doh! says:

    Even though Cameron isnt to be trusted, do you think he’ll sort of get the idea today that putting the UK before Europe is rather popular with the UK electorate…and therefore a vote winner?

  252. 252
    Ol' Blue Eyes says:

    Outmanoeuvre them how? Reminds me of Rambo, faced with the entire Russian army in Afghanistan saying, “Well surrounding ‘em’s out”

  253. 253
    bye bye Europe, enjoy your trip says:

    it more like keeping out of a financial union with a bunch of nazis

  254. 254
    Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

    Just another one of the ‘we hate Cameron’ clones that the BBC are wheeling out this morning (apart from their 150 European Correspondents.)

  255. 255
    Small is Good says:

    Nothing wrong with being a little Englander. Little Swiss and Little Sweeds have become very rich in not being Big EUSSRs

  256. 256
    Gonk says:

    You believe in cctv, pamplets, heavy taxation and engineering
    of the social kind. Your day is done.

  257. 257
    Dodgy East Herts Council says:

    Watch what they do, not what they say.

  258. 258
    Ol' Blue Eyes says:

    Cameron: “You mean the BBC is wrong and most people actually want us to pull back from Europe? Good heavens!”

  259. 259
    Anonymous says:

    Try saying ‘Region 9 of the Eu Republic,’ no doubt he’ll come all over his keyboard.

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    The shame of the Irish says:

    I can’t believe the Irish have decided that Germany is now to become their Government.

    How has a once proud nation come to this?

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    Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:


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    School for scoundrels says:

    Sarkozy has issued a statement, It is thought he didn’t get much sleep last night..

  263. 263
    Gordon Brown says:

    If only I was Prime Minister – I’d have saved Europe

  264. 264
    Anonymous says:

    Time they upped your medication, and no more mad cow pies for you.

  265. 265
    Anonymous says:

    Neil Kinnock says* WereAright* WereAlright Yeah your all right twat

  266. 266
    Oswald Moseley says:

    I warned against isolationism, but they would’t listen.

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    Well said DAVE says:

    He’s right though. They will have to set up a whole new Eurozone government and the UK should not contribute one penny towards it.

  268. 268
    Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

    About 350 by the look of it.

  269. 269
    get with the program says:

    Its not Clair its Sharon darling.

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    Selohesra says:


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    Ask what your country can do for EU. – Not what EU can do for your country:

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    God says:

    How “proud” were they during the 2nd world war?

  273. 273
    Marshall Petain says:

    At least Sarkozy knows what is best for him.

  274. 274
    weybridgeman says:

    Remember it is highly likely that Sarko will be voted out in the 2012 elections and Merkel isn’t exactly riding high in the polls. Whoever gets in next in France or Germany is going to be in a similar situation that Dave was – a complete and utter shambles hidden behind a veneer of [slight] believability (?). God Help the SS Euro-Titanic

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    Engineer says:

    That seems to sum up the present state of affairs quite neatly.

  276. 276
    Anonymous says:

    You Tories are easily pleased!! No repatriation but Dave bravely maintains the status quo. This plan to make Dave appear brave and decisive was hatched with merkel at their last meeting.

    All hail the conquering hero ! NOT!!

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    Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

    At least he had the guts to do what he thought was best for us, even though people here may disagree with him, rather than be intimidated or flattered into doing what Merkozy wanted. So credit there.

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    Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:


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    The Sleeper says:

    Speculation from Ireland that they will have to have another referendum….or two or three…until they get the ‘right’ answer.

    I suspect that this spectre may arise in other EU Member States who have signed up to the new treaty.

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    bemused says:

    and we resemble them how exactly?

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    Not me. But the coalition still needs him and his dumps.

    Like Gordon, he seems to have gone to ground on this one.

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    once a cunt, always a cunt says:

    he did what he thought best for him – we weren’t part of the equation

  283. 283
    Ol' Blue Eyes says:

    So which of his ministers / backbenchers do we think read him the riot act yesterday and made it clear if he signs up to this his days are numbered?

    Realism creeps back in amid the jubilance :)

  284. 284
    once a cunt, always a cunt says:

    how proud have they been ever – a few million pikeys with a couple of braincells between them?

  285. 285
    Anonymous says:

    how long before an attempted putsch and an attempt to impose Peter Mandelson as a a “technocratic” Prime Minister

  286. 286
    Moussa Koussa says:

    Boo hoo, my beloved Peoples Republic of La La Looney Land is being caned good and proper by Bullingdon Flashman Dave.

  287. 287
    Brunel the Visionary says:

    Look ahead to 2030.
    GB is a bankrupt little island off the coast of the Europe.
    The fraudsters in the City of London have cut and run with their bonuses, and their financial house of cards collapsed. Frankfurt took over big time.
    Dave lost the General Election when the Coalition fell apart.
    Milicxxt, Bxllxcks and Merv the Perv quantitatively eased us into the inflation cess-pit.
    Thanks to generations of corrupt incompetent MPs we’ve got a tiny manufacturing sector that cannot support the millions of diversity coordinators,counsellors, and all the other Public Wxxkers.
    Meanwhile Europe has recovered, has the economic strength to match China and the weakened USA.
    What a cock-up.

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    you twat says:

    One step at a time, twat. We’ve got to rid ourselves of the shackles first.

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    Vox clamantis in deserto says:

    For those interested, here are today’s European Council Conclusions:

    What exactly was vetoed?

    The Financial Transactions Tax as an EU own resource is already provided for by Article 311 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU).

    The “fiscal stability union” would not be applicable to the UK as a non-euro member. Why then veto?

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    a bit less angry says:

    a-a-maz-ing Dave
    How sweet the sound

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    SouthEastVoter says:

    That is exactly what Splendid Isolation means when it was last used as our foreign policy in the 1800’s. When we where the leading world economy.

  292. 292
    What People's Republic? says:

    The City provide tax revenues based on theft of other people’s labour.

    Labour was happy with this so long as it could use the revenues to buy votes. The Tories are happy with it because they are happy with it.

  293. 293
    Angela and Nico Merkozy says:

    Britain, Cameron is no longer your leader. We are in the process of selecting a very dumb Liberal Democrat to be your new leader. Kiss our arses and be grateful.

  294. 294
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    Agreed. Let’s see the small print before telling Dave what a good boy he is.

  295. 295
    Anonymous says:

    Spivs AND bureaucrats. Sums up the EU nicely. At least the city are our own fucking spivs.

  296. 296
    LIb Dem tart says:

    Perhaps Guido should start a Sharon Bowles watch to see when she takes out that Irish citizenship she has said she is going to take out?

  297. 297
    David Cameron says:

    Close it yourselves. It’s your bloody door and you opened it.

  298. 298
    Boudicca says:

    Radio 4 Today was desperate this morning.
    They even dragged David Owen on to try and shore up the BBC’s default pro European position.

  299. 299
    Anonymous says:

    Message to Justin Webb:
    When interviewing someone, perhaps you’d like to stop interrupting and occasionally shut up so listeners can here what the interviewee actually has to say.

  300. 300
    Anonymous says:

    Perhaps he can’t afford to wear Hackett like Millibland?

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    Christmas comes early. says:

    For the BBC to claim that the UK has now been “excluded” from Europe is laughable.
    What Merkosy was proposing was completely unaccceptable.

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    just saying says:

    Let’s not forget William Hague- he’s been impressive dealing with the media.

  303. 303
    Moussa Koussa says:

    Norway £8 a Pint…go for it

  304. 304
    a woman says:

    Who gives a shit what a corrupt second rate politician thinks about anything?

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    Raymond Chandler says:

    Like Gordoom’s (d)alliances round the back door at Lisbon…Hunts!!!

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    Pos says:

    Feck Me, Dave finally grows a pair!! Just need to wait a while and see if they drop!!

    Well done Dave!

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    je ne regrette rien says:

    As soon as there’s an election in France, the poison dwarf will be out on his ear and Carla will dump him.
    The French hate him.

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    low resolution fox says:

    I wonder how it’d effect me if London didn’t have so much power.

    Property prices would probably be lower, engineering work would probably be higher, our imports would be more expensive. While not working in the financial sector I’m not entirely sure if I’m better off with or without them. However I suppose it is nice to think that however eternally rubbish our sports teams are, London is still #1 at something.

  309. 309
    low resolution fox says:

    Only way out, United Nations announces all economies to introduce 0.5% financial transactions tax?

    Any nations not adhering to have a 5% extra duty on imports/exports?

  310. 310
    A Global View says:

    Britain sits on its own?

    Ooh! Look over there! It’s called the rest of the world. Our payments to the EU can be far better spent elsewhere.

  311. 311
    A Global View says:

    Whay Mr Ned said. the sooner we are rid of the crypto commies the better off we shall be.

  312. 312
    A Global View says:

    Got that wrong then, dincha?

  313. 313
    Confus€d says:

    Now, I may be as thick as a whale omelette…

    Does this mean, cash in the Euros and move back to the UK, or rejoice, for I am resident in Spain ?

  314. 314
    Special Ed says:

    Careful what you wish for. Fox might lean the right way – pun fully intended – but they make most of it up and are stocked full of nut jobs who believe that the world is a few thousand years old and created in 6 days…Save us from people like O’Reilly.

  315. 315
    A Global View says:

    Haven’t you noticed? It’s all now going via a huge donation to the IMF. I think Dave thinks we are all blind as well as stupid.

  316. 316
    Durban Conference Chairperson says:

    Once bitten, twice shy.

  317. 317
    City Wizzkid says:

    It’s Friday. The numbers always go down on Fridays as the lads cash in their winnings for the week. They’ll go back up again on Monday, never fear.

  318. 318
    Duty Pedant says:

    *fewer* as any fule kno

  319. 319
    Hallo sailors says:

    Nope! The correct version of Moose’s *joke* is Leapt off the Titanic as it left the pier.

    I must say I like that one.

  320. 320
    Sir Malcolm says:

    You rang?

  321. 321
    Hallo sailors says:

    So, at least there are some patriots left in London.

  322. 322
    Really? says:

    What struck me was that he was knocked back, despite having a very modest set of demands, limited to safeguarding a single sector of our economy.

    It shows clearly how eurosceptic demands for ‘sweeping’ repatriation of powers from the EU are without hope of success.

    Earlier, in Frankfurt, the new head of the ECB padlocked the drinks cabinet ahead of the party by refusing to lend money to the IMF, so that it could make loans to sovereign debtors by the back door, and claimed that he would not be able to attend the dinner prior to the negotiations because there were ‘problems with the flight timetables’.

    Angela and Nicolas were getting their chains well and truly yanked by him. And the debt can was kicked down the road a little way once again.

  323. 323
    Hallo sailors says:

    For Dave it must have been a hard day’s night too!

  324. 324
    Hallo sailors says:

    That’s probably the only thing she’ll get to take out (or take her out).

  325. 325
    Hallo sailors says:

    If Sarky has anything to do with it, I’d guess about 4ft 6 (whatever that is in metres)

  326. 326
    YorkshireLad says:

    Europe has fought wars over less in the past…maybe we could invade Europe. It would take the air-head EUites 6 months to decide what uniform to wear.

  327. 327
    Hallo sailors says:

    You need to keep away from the fruit gums mate.

  328. 328
    Dodgy East Herts Council says:

    Any one notice Cameron describe Parliament as “my Parliament”.

    Don’t think so old stick

  329. 329
    YorkshireLad says:

    Well, youve already saved the world

  330. 330
    Enterprising Businessman with a Vision says:

    I am thinking of naming my new pub “The Bag and Dwarf”. What do you think?

  331. 331
    Dodgy East Herts Council says:

    hear hear

  332. 332
    Monsieur Francois says:

    Vous avez raison mon ami.

  333. 333
    Monsieur Francois says:

    Target practice?

  334. 334
    Jacky Treehorn says:

    Typical leftie,allways afraid. Why can’t the Euro fanatics ever try and win the argument by showing how wonderfull the experiment has been? Allways we are threatened with doom and gloom, so we go along and the same crap happens.
    I am a pragmatist, i am also very patriotic, if the idea is proven to be good, i would buy in, as it is, it ain’t!

  335. 335
    Jacky Treehorn says:

    Lets see how far the Eurofanatics get with threats against th UK.
    If they start cutting us out, we can allways say that with less influence, we will pay less, let Croatia pick up our tab.

  336. 336
    Kered Ybretsae says:

    Europe Isolated? Britain in Solitary Confnement….more like.

  337. 337
    misterned says:

    On the contrary, Cameron has opened the door to EU withdrawal without having any intention of walking through it. He has positioned the UK on the irrelevant fringes of the EU, dominated by them but without any influence over them.

    This is an intolerable position, but a necessary one to pass through on the way to independence and self determination once more, to smell free air once more.

    As the EU tries to dominate us more and more, the cries for a referendum will be ever more loud. A poll on SKY showed 87% demanding an in or out referendum now in light of this latest decision.

    I stated prior to Lisbon being ratified that the “this far and no further” position dies with Lisbon and events have proven me right.

    Now we need to be asked if we want to remain on the fringes being buttfucked by the EU, or if we want freedom, self determination and democracy once again.

    Sadly Cameron still does not show the balls required for that decision. Cameron has made the UK irrelevant, and only UKIP seem capable of taking the decision to get us out of the UK.

    All the tory talk of “fundemental renegotiation of our position, followed by a referendum” is pie-in-the-sky BOLLOCKS!

    Cameron could not even negotiate an agreed protocol to protect one single part of our economy. How the hell is he now supposed to negotiate repatriating a whole raft of social and economic powers? It is a totally unrealistic non starter and Cameron does not even look like trying to start on that path.

    He will not offer us the referendum which a vast majority of people are loudly demanding now. He has made himself irrelevant.

    Farage does have the balls to take those right decisions. We need Farage more than ever.

  338. 338
    misterned says:

    “and only UKIP seem capable of taking the decision to get us out of the UK.” Out of the EU*


  339. 339
    misterned says:

    Better than the rest of the British politicians looking like gallows fodder.

  340. 340
    misterned says:

    I am pleased that we got a damned site more than what labour would have given us, by their craven capitulation and cowardice… They would have handed over the City of London on a silver platter!

    But I am not satisfied and shall not be satisfied until this land is free from the yoke of EU tyranny once and for all.

  341. 341
    misterned says:

    SO you are in favour of sacking 4 million public workers to offset the loss in taxes that the craven capitulation to the EU (which is labour’s policy) are you Tom Watson? Or are you far too thick to think that far ahead you thick fuckwit?

  342. 342
    Jacky Treehorn says:

    I bet all the people frothing at the mouth about our (so called) isolation, will not dare to call for a referendum. Arrogant gutless anti democratic self loathing idiots.

  343. 343
    misterned says:

    + ∞

  344. 344
    Rog says:

    Brave words from Spam.

    Now everyone’s absorbed the headline that apparently Cam’s a true EU-sceptic, watch closely through the smoke and mirrors as he backpedals and caves in completely.

    Simply nothing less than a fair referendum on our membership of the EU will convince me that Cam isn’t a horrible, lying traitor.

  345. 345
    Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

    Perhaps it was more a case of Merkozy wouldn’t clarify to him what he was signing up to.

  346. 346
    Rog says:

    You may not like his suit, but he seems to be one of the very few politicians who knows what the hell he’s talking about.

    Farage for PM.

  347. 347
    Anon. says:

    So on the eve of a catastrophic meltdown in Euroland, Croatia signed up for the EU and the euro this morning. What are they, lemmings? (Not that I’ve got anything against lemmings.)

  348. 348
    Anon. says:

    I think you are confusing him with the pocket-lining, money-mad Tony Blair and the economic illiterate that was Gordon Brown.

  349. 349
    Neil Kinnock, Euro Trougher Supreme and Censor of the British Press says:

    How dare David Cameron snub this hallowed institution and its noble politicians! I’m going to phone Angela straight away and tell her that I am ashamed of what he’s done and ashamed to be British. That should ensure I keep my pension anyway. Mustn’t upset the Boss, eh? She’s the only one with any money left!

  350. 350
    Anonymous says:

    Unfortunately not! The Beeb and the rest of the blind left are spinning that Dave has isolated the UK for the sake of saving the evil City. 40% of the UK electorate are so unintelligent, blinkered and ill-informed that they want to believe this.

  351. 351
    M says:

    The 26 European countries will try and go down a protectionist road where does that lead ?

  352. 352
    Anon. says:

    Well said Jacky. I’m sick of hearing this morning about how much we’ve ‘upset’ the French and Germans, how much they hold us in contempt, etc. etc. So what? Are we whinging about how much they’ve upset us by making it clear that they were not prepared to make one single concession that we wanted? No. Cameron said ‘OK’, ‘why should we make all the concessions? No, thank you.’ End of.

  353. 353
    Really? says:

    Setting this tax at a piffling level is a clear sign that it is a Trojan horse: as soon as the principle of the thing is accepted, its rate will be ratcheted up.

    It will be milked by every failed Statist politician in Europe to pay for crazy megalomaniac schemes, roads and bridges to nowhere and, most importantly, to purchase consent.

    They have a strange relationship with democracy, these neighbours of ours.

  354. 354
    MandyPickleSniffer says:

    Can you imagine that carp-eyed Wallace lookalike standing up and making ANY kind of credible speech in Europe? He’d be laughed off the stage right away. The man has absolutley ZERO gravitas and no credibility. So, for him to say that Cameron looked weak is totally laughable.

    And furthermore, regardless of what the leftist socialist twits out there whine & whinge about, the City is pretty much the only source of revenue this country has. You want all your social programs but you have no way of paying for it. The City of London brings in billions and is far more of a global financial center than Paris, Frankfurt, Milan, Geneve etc will ever be. The UK is no longer a net exporter of energy products (north sea oil), it no longer has any kind of British-owned car manufacturing industry, its factories can’t compete with Chinese factories…where the bleeding heck is the money supposed to come from?? You’ve got ONE strong industry which pays for all your social welfare and yet you’re absolutely determined to pummel it senseless at every opportunity!

    Cameron was totally right in not allowing the Eurocrats to take anything from the City, and no matter how you spin it, his decision to veto was in the UK’s best interests. Well done Cameron for telling the Europeans to self-fellate!

  355. 355
    Drew Peacock says:

    Well don sir, I never ever believed you would do it and now after years of snivelling MPs sucking up to Europe you have told them to FUCK OFF

    Don’t whatever you do compromise in any way with these despots, call a referendum on the EU and let us decide our own fate sink or swim

  356. 356
    The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

    1% of the taxpayers in this country contribute 27% of all tax revenue. So said Nick “Toenails” Robinson on the telly last week.

    The money men in Frankfurt have been lusting after London’s market for years.

    If we do let the DAX or the CAC grab the trade from London where will the tax revenue come from when you are funding the Labour PFIs in ten years time?

  357. 357
    G Brown - lover of prudence says:

    Has Cameron shot your fox Nige?

  358. 358
    Drew Peacock says:

    Some of you wankers should be told, this TOBIN TAX on the City will not go to our treasury to fund the welfare state it would have gone direct to Brussels for them to squander making up more moronic laws

    Well Done Cameron

  359. 359
    The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

    You must remember that when VAT was introduced they said that certain items “would not attract the tax”. However, they did not make them “exempt”, they made them “zero-rated”.

    In theory everything is liable for VAT be it at 20% or 0%. Then all they have to do is change the rate. Sneaky or what?

  360. 360
    Really? says:

    There’s a chance that Draghi was outraged at the manner in which the man (re)elected President of Italy was replaced with a placeman of the EU and that the bland and measured words he spoke yesterday conceal an elephant trap or two.

    He said he stands by the founding Statute of the ECB and will not allow it to be used either directly, or via the proxy of the IMF, as a piggy bank to be raided at will.

    He ended his speech by regretfully declining their invitation to dinner last night, as he had an important subsequent engagement.

  361. 361
    confused says:

    I note this that when it comes to protecting his paymasters, the city, he’s all for it & willing to risk the wrath of France & Germany but when it comes to protecting citizens against the European Warrant we can get stuffed ………… again

  362. 362
    The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

    Er… I thought he was a failed Maoist?

  363. 363
    domino316 says:

    Milibland and all the other Labour traitors should keep their pathetic thoughts to themselves, if it wasn’t for Jonah sneaking off to sign the treaty behind closed doors it wouldn’t have been necessary…..Labour / Lib Dem / Tory Manifesto “we will give the people a referendum”….slink back into your little holes you mediocre cretins.

  364. 364
    The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

    Apart from medically necessary procedures such as burns victims, injuries and correcting congenital conditions, why is the NHS, that we all contribute to, being used for the vanity of people who should have such surgery done privately?

  365. 365
    Really? says:

    They don’t do science

    Richard D. North, cited from the link above:

    “I was frankly appalled by the level of ignorance of the issue which the BBC people showed …I heard nothing which made me think any of them read any broadsheet newspaper coverage of the topic (except maybe the Guardian and that lazily) … it seemed to me that none of them had shown even a modicum of professional curiosity on the subject …”

  366. 366
    Really? says:

    It’s a bit more than +100.


    Now my keyboard’s b@ggered too!

  367. 367
    The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

    Little Liechtensteiners….big bank balances. Keep your Euros, Swiss Francs only here!!

  368. 368
    Brunel the Visionary says:

    So the UK is doing all right is it? Our economy is now based on the City gamblers inventing dodgy financial transactions, the grossly bloated Public Sector, and frivolous service industries. None of the fxxkers are doing any work of real value.
    The deficit is about £150bn this year. That’s nearly £10 per day for each of us in the UK. That means you, Dear Reader. Just set light to a tenner now to make sure you understand the point.
    We are skint, bankrupt, bust, completely in the shxt.
    Our long term interests are with Europe, not as some piddly little tin-pot island still pretending we are an independent success story. We’ve been going downhill since the 1880’s.
    By the way, if you think I’m left wing, you must be brain dead.

  369. 369
    The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

    Maths, you Americanised dolt!

  370. 370
    Really? says:

    Nice try. ‘Cameron’s supporting the interests of the 10%, instead of supporting the real economy of the other 90%’.

    And you’re right, because the City floats above the UK rather in the manner of the island of Laputa from Gulliver’s Travels. In no way does its activity result in money being made available to our largest businesses and banks. No siree.

    It just keeps the money pooled there in its secret underground vaults, doing nothing.

  371. 371
    The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

    Er…Monaco and Liechtenstein????? Not forgetting Jersey, which keeps the Euro nutter control freaks awake at nights.

  372. 372
    The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

    Artificially high price due to tax to keep the woodentops sober for work on Monday. Ever heard of the Vinmonopillet Moussa?

    Old Norwegian joke about the tax is that if you find a drunk in the gutter, take him home and be his friend ‘cos he must be a millionaire!!

    Anyway, why is a pint of beer £3.50 in London? It’s all due to tax! It would be £8 in this country if they thought they could get away with it.

  373. 373
    The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

    Ok Joe, so who pays more tax, you or a city stockbroker?

  374. 374
    Really? says:

    In this case, our best interests coincide.

  375. 375
    Really? says:

    So even 26 out of 27 isn’t a valid caucus? Ha ha ha. This could be tied up in their slowcoach courts for years!

  376. 376
    Rockape says:

    The only thing left between us and Jerry,is the English Channel sounds a bit Familiar.

  377. 377
    Really? says:

    The “Frog and Toad”?

  378. 378
    Really? says:

    In context, it was used to differentiate ‘our’ one at WC1A 1AA from the one in a state of quantum superposition in Brussels or Strasbourg. -His- parliament, not the one which springs naturally to the mind of reporters in the Eurobubble.

  379. 379
    Really? says:

    Yup. Right up there with giving American plains indians the ‘inalienable’ right to their reservations. You try raising money on something which the law says nobody can take from you. It sterilised their land, nobody could take it as security for a loan.

  380. 380
    Frantic BBC says:

    Blocking the tunnel would interfere with the human rights of immigrants!

  381. 381
    Harry H says:

    Save us from people like O’Reilly

    Yes, lets have a media run by people who think Totalitarian Socialism is a good thing.

    Give me Foxnews any day over the dreary, bloated, corporate Socialism of The BBC.

    If I want to listen to middle class Marxists repeat what their idiot professors taught them in Media Studies class – I can read the Guardian.

    Save us O’Rielly – we need you.

  382. 382
    Willsteed says:

    Au contraire, looks like a patriot to me.

  383. 383
    Reimer says:

    I’ll believe that this friend of the UAF is acting in the national interest when he and his ilk are on trial.

  384. 384
    Auntie Flo' says:

    Well done, Mr Cameron! x x x

  385. 385
    Handycock ( Teen Fondler) says:

    This is scandalous, I don’t understand the economic implications but if it means I can’t go on visits to Eastern Europe with the Council for Europe then it is disastrous.

  386. 386
    The Indictments of Dave says:

    At last. At last.

    Thank Dave Almighty, Free at Last.

  387. 387
    NATO: French propped up, Germans down, Russians out says:

    Nigel Farage is a patriotic conservative. You, Jabba, are a man of Munich, a Neville Chamberlain butt-boy, a grade Z “Conservative” go along to get along party hack.

    Why are we grovelling to Merkozy? Not a full lifetime has gone by since the Germans killed 50,000,000 people and tried to stomp out our freedoms. We’re to be happy happy joy joy in political union with them? Let them be on the outside looking in.

  388. 388
    8 Ace - £1.49 says:

    Agree. They need us, they know it and Dave knows it. They know that the UK gov can’t be meddled with like other member states and would happily fuck off due to public opinion. Dave would probably stomach this but what he really expects is to get his demands in return for not holding a referendum, his preferred position. Either that or he’ll turn over and request a garlic enema and it’s merely this lager giving me false optimism…

  389. 389
    Anonymous says:

    *Operation Dynamo* was a complete success…..( Carry on chap’s)

  390. 390
    Madness says:

    Well done D C.

  391. 391
    Jabba the Cat says:

    The only relevant pressure is the eurosceptic one by elected MP’s in the HOC. Last time I looked EUKIP did not have any of those.

  392. 392
    Provincial Pe-asant says:

    I think you’re far too optimistic in thinking that all that won’t happen until 2030, because so much of it has already happened. If Brown had not scuppered adoption of the Euro, things might have been different, though Greece et alia have shown that ways can be found of going to hell in a handcart in as well as outside the Eurozone. Let’s hope that efforts to protect the City of London do not mean that talk of rebalancing the UK economy (i.e. not crippling industry in the provinces) is no more than rhetoric.

  393. 393
    Provincial Pe-asant says:

    I wouldn’t mind so much if banks did keep the moola safe, underground or otherwise, but it seems to me that too much of the time the money goes to borrowers who don’t repay, leaving the hapless shareholder (failing whom the even more hapless taxpayer) to indemnify those who have lent money to the banks. The most irritating feature of current procedures for me is that bonuses are paid out (financed by shareholders/taxpayers) long before borrowers have paid off their loans with interest. Governments of course encourage and even compel banks to indulge in unsafe accounting so that they can maximise their tax take. just as governments encourage or even compel banks, insurance companies. pension funds and other financial institutions to “invest” in their “bonds”.

  394. 394
    Grumpy Rumpy says:

    If it’s a question of opening up on the Franco-Belgian border, “Shag & Quaff” might be an idea. If an Anglo-German flavour is required, you might consider “Hag & Toff”. P.S. On no a/c must Grumpy Rumpy be referred to as Herman the German.

  395. 395
    Provincial Pe-asant says:

    Thanks for the link. It would be nice to think that our political and financial class would take some of the thinking on board. The 0.5% leeway is structural which thereby includes rather an impressive fudge factor — enough possibly for Osborne if not Brown/Balls.

  396. 396
    handypara says:

    And it’s not just our money they’re thieving.

  397. 397
    Apathy Rising says:

    What else could Cameron do ? Drop his pants and throw open the vaults of the B of E and hope the EU can do something they’ve never achieved before with a proven track record of tossing money in to a black hole known as the ‘Euro Pit’.

    The more remarkable reaction is the markets who appear to be so easily pleased, but it seems it takes them a couple of days to work out a dud deal.

    I presume that the Euro Bank is something that we fund which is what Sarkozy wants to prop up the Leaning Tower of Euro to which no one can find a prop big enough to prevent toppling over.

    Yes – the EU will come back with a punitive legislative attack against the City, but then all pretence will be over. The EU is an undisguised tyranny where stepping out of line will be punished severely.

    Isn’t it a democratic right to say ‘no’. Do Merkel and Sarkozy not comprehend ? Maybe the French need to dust off a device they used the last time they were run by a despot.

    I’ve been critical of Cameron but with the Euro almost guaranteed to collapse and the EU showing a wish to govern weaker members as if part of the Merkel/Sarkozy Empire, he may be the winner in the long run. As for Miliband – who knows – who cares ?

  398. 398
    David says:

    Tom, if the City of London is so bad why did Gordon Brown deregulate it to the point where the banks were able to to basically do what they liked? Labour called their deregulation the light touch, it was kinda like an arms race between Labour and the Americans as to who could deregulate the financial services industry the fastest.

    I heard that the things AIG did (insuring risks that they couldn’t afford to pay out on in the belief that they would never happen) was done from their offices in London because that would have been illegal in the USA?

    Don’t pretend Labour are any better than the Tories when it comes to kissing the arse of News International and letting the super rich do what they like.

    Why did Labour refuse to close the non-dom tax break from Russian billionaires Tom?

    I’m a social democrat and I don’t vote any more because there isn’t a social democratic party to vote for. Fuck your right wing Labour Party Tom.

  399. 399
    Jabba the Cat says:

    Farage is a spiv solely interested in milking the EUSSR expenses to the max whilst the sheeple blindly lap up his rhetoric. You should do some homework about EUKIP before spouting too much ignorance on the subject.

    If you had read any of my previous posts on here over the years you would be aware that your grovelling to Germans or impersonating Chamberlain lines are about as wide of the mark as it gets asshole.

  400. 400
    Jabba the Cat says:

    Bah, bah sheeple!

  401. 401
    Apathy Rising says:

    When Germany allowed lame dogs to join the Euro didn’t they understand and accept the responsibility it put on THEM to fund them to oblivion ?

    More fool the other spineless countries for traipsing after the Sarkozy/Merkel bandwagon. Those in the Euro have no option as they are hostages to the madcap currency straightjacket it put them in, but those outside it have thrown away their democracies and their wealth,

    Let’s be in doubt doubt where the blame really lies, because they know, which is why they grope in desperation to find a scapegoat.

    I don’t like David Cameron, or many of his policies, but he made the correct and brave decision. Sarkozy and Merkel have no reason to be annoyed with Cameron, unless they know deep down that he is right and that their flimsy sticking plaster solution is all going to unravel before Christmas. If their scheme were supported unanimously they would be able to share the blame.

  402. 402
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  403. 403
    Gloone says:

    O’Reilley is a scumbag lunatic and so are you.

    Being economically right wing doesn’t mean you have to agree with any nutjob out there who is also economically right wing. Grow up.

  404. 404
    Anonymous says:

    Nonononono. Fox News is run by self-interested idiots and liars. The last thing we want is inherit America’s appalling lack of progression. They still have problems with homosexuality and teaching evolution to children.

  405. 405
    Anonymous says:

    Heh, no. Cameron isn’t stupid. Sly, yes, but not stupid.

  406. 406
    Apathy Rising says:

    Reuters reports today

    “European shares retreat as EU deal-halo fades”

    Am I such a genius or are Europhiles just so blinkered by their prejudice that they can’t be bothered to count the legs on their nag before they bet on it ?

    As for being isolated perhaps they don’t understand that as a country not in the ‘Club Euro’ we were always going to be isolated ?

    Do you have to be congenitally stupid to be a Europhile ? It appears so. The reaction of French workers to the austerity package required by the new rules is utterly predictable and French governments have a long record of capitulation.

    David is isolated certainly, presumably by having a brain between his ears.

  407. 407
    Apathy Rising says:

    Of course the killing point made in yesterday’s Q & A session was that Labour’s spending plans would likely be deemed illegal if Britain had signed the EU deal, which is why Miliband cannot state what he would have done.

    I don’t even like Cameron but it is pointless to criticise if you can’t even state your position. The ‘nay sayers’ are irrelevant and clueless.

    Articles in ‘Hudson New York’ and the ‘Irish Times’ are interesting to read. The former puts some figures to the approaching calamity and indicates how France and Germany are herding ‘the sheep’ to their own benefit. Though reading the latter article it’s clearly stated

    “Mr Sarkozy stressed yesterday that no new powers would be given to the European Commission or the European Court of Justice to enforce fiscal rectitude.”

    Bearing mind that Britain has always tended to obey rules whilst France has danced through them with complete disdain, there is clearly no meaningful requirement for anyone to do anything. Perhaps Mr Sarkozy’s discomfort is more down to the likelihood that the whole pantomime is more easily exposed as ‘smoke and mirrors’ with France and Germany taking control.

    Only the weekend caused the deal to stay afloat as long as it did.

  408. 408
    Barroso fiddles while Rome burns says:

    When bullies gang up on one member, I always cheer for David.
    Never Goliath.

  409. 409
    London Times says:

    “Fog in Channel. Continent cut off.”

  410. 410
    Anonandon says:

    And a few million other Brits.

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Boris on British Jihadis. Apparently based on MI5 intel:

“If you look at all the psychological profiling about bombers, they typically will look at porn. They are literally w***ers. Severe onanists. They are tortured. They will be very badly adjusted in their relations with women, and that is a symptom of their feeling of being failures and that the world is against them. They are not making it with girls, and so they turn to other forms of spiritual comfort — which of course is no comfort.”

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