December 3rd, 2011

Saturday Seven Up

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You’re either in front of Guido, or you are behind…


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  1. 1
    chriselee says:

    alaster campbell is an honourable man.
    I know because he told me so

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    Lord Stansted says:

    Up-yours Delors now claims he knew the euro was doomed from the beginning. Strange that. The BBC never once mentioned it – and come to think of it – neither did Up-yours.

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    Anonymous says:

    i thought the unions had a death wish for the UK but listening to the Media this week led by the BBC its seems the whole of the UK is full of socialists marching over the cliff.

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      Grumpy Old Man says:

      That’ll deal with the overcrowding problem then. A third of the population removed in a flash.

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        Jezza says:

        …and the streets of London will allow traffic to flow, the restaurants will be empty and life will be good.

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    Much ado about nothing says:

    I see the BBC is now campaigning to end the Spastic olympics as they feel it is patronising spastics. Are they jealous because CH4 has the telly rights?

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    a non says:

    I see they are trying a hatchet job Guido.

    Lots of worried people out there.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/paul-staines-the-worm-of-westminster-6271509.html

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      Lord Stansted says:

      It’s a badly written piece, slanted and just plain wrong. The author is someone called Andy McSmith. Not being a reader of the indie, I’ve never heard of it. However, he’s “a senior reporter at The Independent …(with) vast experience in political journalism and has also appeared on documentaries for BBC Radio 4.” Ah, that’s cleared that up.

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      jeri boam says:

      They got the Tonight one wrong as G came on and asked us “angry”,”swearing” people how he should go , some said go as himself and most said go as anonymouse,, we know how he appeared, the comments on the rag remind me when the left did an attack on him on a saturday night, looks like the same crowd but they were in such wound up attack mode they didn’t check he took the weekend off to be with his family and so did most commentry.

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    • 46
      jeri boam says:

      I see Neo is home, modded.

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      you've gotta laugh says:

      “Two academics did a study of comments on the feeds of political blogs, and noted that those who post on the Guido Fawkes blog are notably more aggressive and angrier than your average citizen. Their findings, published in the Oxford journal Parliamentary Affairs in January, noted: “Guido Fawkes had insults in 63 per cent of its posts. Some unacceptable content was removed by the moderator yet posts containing [an extremely rude phrase about Gordon Brown] were left…. This level of offensive language was extremely rare in any of the other blogs.”

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      6 says:

      ‘But there are many people who would feel that something has gone out of their lives without newspapers, magazines, books, bookshops and newsagents, with only the broadcast media for news and the blogosphere for comment.’
      That wouldn’t be a problem if the DTP and much of the broadcast media hadn’t sold out to the crooks who seek to control us. Can’t see me buying a newspaper any time soon, and I go out of my way not to watch the BBC’s marxist propaganda.

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      • 106
        Lord Stansted says:

        +1

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        bastard-politician.elc says:

        Blogs are more informative – and certainly more entertaining – than the MSM. Even the FT is redundant since the market info is online for free and their leaders are rubbish. The “elites” must hate the internet; if it not not been invented we would be believing in climate change (global warmin II), the EU, the Mother of Parliaments and that the BBC was “excellent value for money”. Christ, we’d even believe Campbell was sincere.

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        An Englishman says:

        Me too.

        It’s clear Guido’s doing something very right and good if he’s getting those pathetic vacuous soggy snotrags at the anything-but-independent wetting their nappies and spitting their milk teeth out.

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      This is mad Britain says:

      Ha ha ha – what a poor piece of naff journalism, for a start – McBride didn’t need any help destroying his so called career, he did it himself by being himself.

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      bergen says:

      Let’s face it.The Indy has form. Since the Hari business it has lost all credibility and this blog helped bring it about. I’m almost embarrassed to recall that I took the rag for years.I wouldn’t eat my fish and chips out of it now .

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      Who owns they Indie? And why did he buy it? says:

      I checked the link at 0000hrs sat/sun and the article has gone, just a headline.

      Why would they pull it?

      The I is a hit with the youth, 20p and they feel all grown up, dangerous stuff!

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    Normal bunch of miscreants, I see. Well here is another one to join you…

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Not bad Guido, Butyou have to hand it to Leveson, he spooked you so much that you removed campbelss evidence and was not allowed to publish your own evidence.

    Tho in the long term i am sure it makes your point for you (free press).

    nother good week tho .

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    • 42
      Anonymous says:

      He has a wife and kids Bowden, show some fucking sensitivity for a change.

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        Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

        what have his wife and kids got to do with it?

        Judge Leveson proved this week that judges can now regulate blog content.

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          Anonymous says:

          You obviously don’t have a fucking clue Bowden. Perhaps if you felt your pet hamster was under threat, you’d feel differently.

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          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            i dont have a pet hamster.

            You have not made a coherent argument to the piont i made about a judge regulating blog content?

            Guido claims (and i believe him) that he got Campbells evidence via legal means, therefore he should not have taken Campbelss evidence down, a point which Leveson conceded few days later.

            You either believe in free press and speech or you dont?

            This has nothing to do with Guidos family its all about freedom of press.

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          • Anonymous says:

            You’ve just proved my point again Bowden, so shut the fuck up you insensitive bastard.

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          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            @anon

            You are not making any points, just using it as a excuse to chuck abuse at me.

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          • Anonymous says:

            The point is, putting your family first you twat.

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          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            But his family were never under any real threat, just a threat towards Guido of a fine/inprisonment that was withdrawn as soon as it was put under scrunity.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Oh FFS, do I have to spell it out? With kids, even the threat is enough you dipstick. You just don’t fucking get it do you?

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          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            @anon

            So by your logic if someone threatens someone because they dont like what they are legally doing they should just roll over and take it?

            How strange!

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          • you don't have kids do you? says:

            FFS, someone please take Bowden out and shoot him in front of his family.

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          • jgm2 says:

            For anybody with any cash or worried about their liberty the threat is enough. Of course it is. You’ve seen how the establishment works with their Hutton enquiry and their ‘Cash for Honours’ investigation.

            And, for good measure, I bet that if Guido gets a court order demanding he reveal his sources or the ISP of some of the more forthright solutions to the Labour Imbecility that we regularly post here (because the poor dears are traumatised by our ‘hate crimes’ then it’ll be ‘Yes Sir, No Sir, Three bags Full Sir’ too.

            And I can’t say that I’d blame him either.

            Look how the BBC, with all its lawyers, got turned over by Blair + Campbell. The c*unts are untouchable. And they know it. And revel in rubbing our nose in it.

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          • jgm2 says:

            @a non

            from your out-law’ link

            anticipating the course of a trial or predicting the outcome

            So, simply suggesting that you think the whole thing is a farce, a fix, a show-trial, a Hutton Mark II places one in contempt of court.

            And, as for suggesting that it’s a pre-cursor to formally restricting Press Freedom as revenge for the reporting of the MPs expenses and for Labour to get their own back after Murdoch withdrew support.

            Send him down!!!

            Even though it’s true.

            The fuckers have it all sewn up.

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          • a non says:

            jgm2.
            The law is always a mish-mash of differing shades of grey and often individual interpretation.
            Leveson has already shown himself to have difficulty in seperating the wheat from the chaff and black from white.
            Guido’s reticence in keeping his powder dry is to be admired.

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          • a non says:

            Last line should have read-

            Guido’s reticence in temporarily halting his present line of attack, keeping his powder dry for the future is to be admired.

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          • jeri boam says:

            A yes sir and a no sir , allows you to chip away at what your trying to do, a fkit will get you a whole lot of crap , throw a few little stones in a pond and watch the waves travel all around the pond or as they say play their game.

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          • Anonymous says:

            In other words, Billy’s a tit.

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          • anonymous says:

            At times, we are all required to keep abreast concerning prevaling circumstances.

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          • CYNICAL OLD MAN says:

            JGM2, I don’t mind admitting that I have complete contempt for the way Leveson is running this witch trial. A so called judge who obviously doesn’t know the rules of evidence, doesn’t seem to know the rules regulating his own enquiry, doesn’t seem to be even bothered about witnesses perjuring themselves, has to be held in contempt by all reasonable people. The way Leveson is running this enquiry SCREAMS a predetermined verdict has been planned.

            How can you not have contempt for court proceedings that are rigged?

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          • Really? says:

            … because if you even so much as suggest such a thing, you will feel the Size Nine boots of the entire Majesty of the Law™ up your fundament?

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    Angela Merkel says:

    I think of Europe as my basket – it’s where I plan to keep all my rotten eggs.

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    nell says:

    I can’t understand why alycampbell, given his reputation for being the hounder of d r d a v i d k e l l y , keeps poking his nose into high profile inquiries and getting himself more bad publicity.

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    Delors is still pedalling his socialist claptrap. He is right to criticise the way that the Euro was set up and the lack of control over spending, but who ends up first in his sights? Germany. Typical leftie approach of blaming anyone but the offender.

    Germany has been a model of financial rectitude. It has not done everything perfectly, no one has, least of all ourselves under Brown, but its borrowings have been kept under tight reign, it has not lent to much dodgy money out to destabilise itself and, most importantly, it still produces things that people want at a quality standard that China cannot get close to.

    Greece? The rest of the piigies? Need I continue?

    All they want to do is come in and help themselves to Germany’s larder because it is the only one which still has food in it.

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    • 21
      Lou Scannon says:

      So why the hell doesn’t Germany get out of Europe instead of trying to take it over ?

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        Because, as stated, it still produces. That has implications demand and supply side. The presence of a world m*rket, of which it is a part, is quite fundamental. The ability to get components made in that same m*arket of differing wage and rent costs is also important.

        The world does not have free trade yet in the true sense. I support an economic union in Europe, in which I would prefer my country to be a part. I also am a passionate supporter of freedom to travel within an area where one is entitled to be.

        I am not for political union*. We have seen how that has been used to bring in all sorts of things, just because it is possible to do them. Meanwhile the substantive issues have been swept under the carpet leaving the Euro in the mess it is.

        * I think that it is possible to have a financial union without complete political union providing there is a control over expenditure relating to income of each participant. Problem is getting the buggers to stick to it.

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          Lou Scannon says:

          You don’t recognise Ted Heath as a conman who sold us down the river then ?

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          • Billy - bites your bum - Hague says:

            I’m warming to him

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          • Heath was a leader in the days of consensus politics. I voted for him (or his party) as the alternative was Wilson, a right of shyster. I also voted in the referendum to stay in what was then the Europеan Economic Community. That does not mean I supported all aspects of it but they only ask you yes/no – they don’t want a bleeding debate about it on the ballot paper.

            Thatcher was for me the best leader we ever had. Now again, I won’t say I agree with everything she did. But she got between 7 and 8 out of 10 right. No one got close to that. I would give SuperMac and Hume 5, Wilson and Callaghan 2 (generous), Major 6, Blair 3 and Jonah 1.

            One has to judge on the basis of realpolitik.

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          • delete ‘of’ in line 2

            Heath 4 (that may be too generous but he was better than Blair)

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          • EEC or not EEC says:

            Cat, it wasn’t a “yes or no” vote it was a “yes yes” vote, with the msm keeping very very quiet about the in’s and out’s of the lie, that’s about the same time lots of people stopped buying newspapers.

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          • Anonymous Misogynist says:

            I take it that you mean Sir Alec Douglas Home..??

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          • Can’t agree with you I’m afraid. You can legislate for universal suffrage but not for everyone to have even barely adequate cerebral capability.

            Unfortunately.

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          • I stand corrected, Anonymous Misogynist.

            Someone needs to hirsel some opprobrium at me for that one.

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          • Emily Litella says:

            But he was a pretty good musician, wasn’t he? OH, THAT TED HEATH! (Never mind.)

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          • The same Ted Heath as the prime minister was a world class pianist, conductor and yachtsman.

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          • Anonymous Misogynist says:

            Sorry cat/CRMM ’twas a bit of a meow…

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          • Damn. Wondered if I would get away with it, Anonymous Misogynist, but your eyes are too sharp.

            Sometimes I wonder if I am getting to old for this game…

            Then I think, nah! sod it! I’m too young.

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          • Anonymous Misogynist says:

            Ha..The perfect Ménage á Trois mon ami..lucky Ewa..!!

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          • I admit to nothing…

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          • sense of perspective says:

            I take it you gave Brown a 1 and not a 0 on the basis that he kept us out the Euro, all be it for the wrong reasons

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          • Very perspicacious, Mr. perspective.

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          • bergen says:

            I must say that SC is a bit harsh on Sunny Jim. I’d definitely rate him far higher than Heath or Wilson or even Blair and (unlike Jonah) he appeared abroad to resemble a statesman and not a national embarrassment.

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          • @ Mr bergen

            I suppose I am remembering the winter of discontent, sir.

            One of the low points in my long memory that equates with the three day week in Edward Heath’s time.

            Rotting garbage on the streets, unburied corpses. In short, something you would have to go back to the days of the Black Death to compare.

            If you make the case that he took over from Wilson and some of the blame must settle on the latter, then I would understand. I would be reluctant to upgrade him based solely upon outward appеarances though.

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          • bergen says:

            Yes. My higher opinion of Sunny Jim is due to the way he handled the ghastly state of affairs he inherited-far worse than Heath in 1970 or Wilson on both occasions. He was just about the only Labour leader who ever said “no” to the public sector unions and that resulted in the Winter of Discontent.

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          • I see what you mean.

            If it would help to break the deadlock, we could offer another 0.002% over five years based on a productivity deal which would, no doubt, have to be put by their lot to a composite…

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          Lou Scannon says:

          Can’t possibly agree on that last point.
          Financial union will always be used merely as a stepping-stone towards political union. To believe otherwise is sheer folly.

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          • Ah. A second bite at the cherry?

            You make a fair point in your second sentence that is more than plausible.

            There is not enough space here to develop this but where does one draw the line with political union? And why?

            Are we talking about Great Britain and Northern Ireland? Why should they be politicaly united?

            Are we talking about England? Ditto.

            Do we divide that north and south? Liverpool can become a separate republic on its own.

            Do we introduce passports to drive from Land’s End to John o’Groats which have to be produced four or five times on the journey?

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          • Аh. А sеcоnd bіtе аt thе chеrry?

            Yоυ mаkе а fаіr pоіnt іn yоυr sеcоnd sеntеncе thаt іs mоrе thаn plаυsіblе.

            Thеrе іs nоt еnоυgh spаcе hеrе tо dеvеlоp thіs bυt whеrе dоеs оnе drаw thе lіnе wіth pоlіtіcаl υnіоn? Аnd why?

            Аrе wе tаlkіng аbоυt Grеаt Brіtаіn аnd Nоrthеrn Іrеlаnd? Why shоυld thеy bе pоlіtіcаly υnіtеd?

            Аrе wе tаlkіng аbоυt Еnglаnd? Dіttо.

            Dо wе dіvіdе thаt nоrth аnd sоυth? Lіvеrpооl cаn bеcоmе а sеpаrаtе rеpυblіc оn іts оwn.

            Dо wе іntrоdυcе pаsspоrts tо drіvе frоm Lаnd’s Еnd tо Jоhn о’Grоаts whіch hаvе tо bе prоdυcеd fоυr оr fіvе tіmеs оn thе jоυrnеy?

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          • Lou Scannon says:

            (A twin-pawed attack, eh ? …..)
            None of this provides the slightest justification for political union with other countries in europe.
            You’re starting to sound like so many of the EU’s proponents, introducing spurious arguments. An example would be the nonsense about 50% (or whatever the figure is) of our trade being with Europe, as if leaving Europe would bring that to an end. We traded with countries in europe before the EU and we still will after we leave.

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          • No. Hold on. You are changing the ground here, old pal.

            I have challenged you to define what you mean by our. (You have just used the word again.What does it mean? Who do you include?)

            You have side-stepped that.

            Get our definitions right first and then we can progress to other stuff.

            (I’m going for a shower and then I have to see someone. I expect there to be a response to this when I come back, even if the page has changed. Otherwise, your argument fails.)

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          • Lou Scannon says:

            A EUltimatum, huh ?
            our referred to the UK, obviously.
            (Thought cats didn’t like showers ?)

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          • Jabba the Cat says:

            “A twin-pawed attack, eh ? …..”

            Your dealing with a ninja cat in SC…

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          • OK, but the UK is not something immutable, is it? A bit broke off in 1919. Another rather hilly bit, where men wear frocks, may break off in a few years. They don’t have much in common with us politically anyway.

            You say None of this provides the slightest justification for political union with other countries in Europe I never argued that, did I?

            I even said I am not for political union. But I did say that there were ways that I could see a financial union working.

            Interestingly, Montenergro adopted the Euro, via the DM, although it is not part of the Eurozone currency union. (We can sit here in our armchairs and say, “Ah! They should have adopted the Australian Dollar or the Norwegian Krone”, but it would hardly have been practical.) It does illustrate though that there are other solutions and, before you start, I am not suggesting that for our present state of political union either!

            My piece related to how the Euro region organises itself. I never said that the UK should be a member, because I don’t think that.

            Your call.

            p.s. Cats do shower when they have new girlfriends…

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          • Really? says:

            I’d be fascinated to know why adopting, say, the USD rather than the EUR would have been impractical for the Montenegrins. Conversion from one currency to another would be required (an opportunity for merchants to introduce some inflation into the system).

            Adjacent users of the euro would have to convert their ‘Montenegrin’ dollars into euros one they got home. Call that reparations for a needless postcommunist war. Serve the bastards right.

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          • Mr Really

            I hesitate to tread where angels fear.

            We think things were difficult in Northern Ireland. Or Palestine… These places were a walkover compared with ex-Yugoslavia, where you had three main factions and countless subsidiaries competeing against each other.

            My point in introducing Montenegro (a country with a bigger population than Luxembourg incidentally, was to illustrate that the need to represent value can find many different ways apart from our conventional approaches, witness Paypal, barter, coupons and a number of others.

            They chose what they did. I still think it would have been rather perverse to do otherwise.

            For more than one reason, I like to think out of the box…

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          • Lou Scannon says:

            Cats always were good at sitting on the fence.

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          • Wouldn’t you like to have a sense of balance?

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          • Lou Scannon says:

            The scales have fallen from my eyes.

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          • Ha ha.

            The oft derided Aristotelian mean is worthy of re-examination, methinks.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_mean_%28philosophy%29

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          • Lou Scannon says:

            Was that bugger Aristotle’s bottle half full or half empty ?

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          • Lou Scannon says:

            Sounds like he had a near miss with two half-bricks.

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      Anonymous says:

      Yes, Germany has behaved well within the boundaries of the Euro – but I suspect that you would concede the trade advantages for Germany of the Euro pastiche exchange rate.

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        Sorry I did not spot you earlier, Anonymong.

        Two edged sword, I would say. Don’t forget that Germany joined the Euro at a quite unfavourable rate, considering her history, both pre-reunification and for quite a while afterwards.

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    12345 54321 says:

    Drink

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      6 says:

      Stay off the fizzy orange, Manfred.

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      Economics made easy for dullard Socialists says:

      Helga is the proprietor of a bar.
      She realizes that virtually all of her customers are unemployed alcoholics and, as such, can no longer afford to patronize her bar.

      To solve this problem, she comes up with a new marketing plan that allows her customers to drink now, but pay later.
      Helga keeps track of the drinks consumed on a ledger (thereby granting the customers’ loans).
      Word gets around about Helga’s ‘drink now, pay later’ marketing strategy and, as a result, increasing numbers of customers flood into Helga’s bar.

      Soon she has the largest sales volume for any bar in town.
      By providing her customers freedom from immediate payment demands, Helga gets no resistance when, at regular intervals, she substantially increases her prices for wine and beer, the most consumed beverages.
      Consequently, Helga’s gross sales volume increases massively.
      A young and dynamic vice-president at the local bank recognizes that these customer debts constitute valuable future assets and increases Helga’s borrowing limit.

      He sees no reason for any undue concern, since he has the debts of the unemployed alcoholics as collateral!
      At the bank’s corporate headquarters, expert traders figure a way to make
      huge commissions, and transform these customer loans into DRINKBONDS.

      These ‘securities’ then are bundled and traded on international securities markets.
      Naive investors don’t really understand that the securities being sold to them as ‘AA Secured Bonds’ really are debts of unemployed alcoholics.
      Nevertheless, the bond prices continuously climb, and the securities soon become the hottest-selling items for some of the nation’s leading brokerage houses.
      One day, even though the bond prices still are climbing, a risk manager at the original local bank decides that the time has come to demand payment on the debts incurred by the drinkers at Helga’s bar. He so informs Helga.
      Helga then demands payment from her alcoholic patrons, but being unemployed alcoholics they cannot pay back their drinking debts.
      Since Helga cannot fulfil her loan obligations she is forced into bankruptcy. The bar closes and Helga’s 11 employees lose their jobs.
      Overnight, DRINKBOND prices drop by 90%. The collapsed bond asset value destroys the bank’s liquidity and prevents it from issuing new loans, thus freezing credit and economic activity in the community.
      The suppliers of Helga’s bar had granted her generous payment extensions and had invested their firms’ pension funds in the BOND securities. They find they are now faced with having to write off her bad debt and with losing over 90% of the presumed value of the bonds.
      Her wine supplier also claims bankruptcy, closing the doors on a family business that had endured for three generations, her beer supplier is taken over by a competitor, who immediately closes the local plant and lays off 150 workers.

      Fortunately though, the bank, the brokerage houses and their respective executives are saved and bailed out by a multibillion dollar no-strings attached cash infusion from the government.
      The funds required for this bailout are obtained by new taxes levied on employed, middle-class, non-drinkers who have never been in Helga’s bar.

      Now do you understand Ed?

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        A fat man on a bike says:

        Excellent, but there are two Eds, One O’Barmy, a Rumpy Pumpy and several dozen Europhile Technocrazys that should also be included. And then there are a few hiding behind the Squeakers chair and a liberal amount of Cleggies that should also be ‘Clarksoned’ in front of their families.

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        Mornington Crescent says:

        Comment of the YEAR.

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      • 240
        Mornington Crescent says:

        …referring to “Economics made easy for dullard Socialists”.

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      • 242
        Ed Minibrain says:

        Superb ! DRINKBONDs will be my new policy.

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        annette curton says:

        Just put it all on the slate for the next generation.

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        • 249
          Elf n Safety says:

          Cerebal Palsy sufferers should not be allowed to partake in the Para Olympic shooting and archery, not unless the audiance are kitted out in full body armour that is.

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        Typical Labour voter says:

        Thats to much like hard work, give us a slogan such as “Same old Tories” , “Labour are for the working man”, “To deep to fast” and ” The rich are getting richer whilst the poor are getting poorer” and we will continue to vote labour

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        Lord Stansted says:

        Sorry, even after all that work, Ed will never understand. Don’t forget, his father was an academic.

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      tatstwotstwitstwoss says:

      Morning TwAT , still no blog?

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        The Piss Soaked Tramp Formally Known As TAT! says:

        ”Two academics did a study of comments on the feeds of political blogs, and noted that those who post on the Guido Fawkes blog are notably more aggressive and angrier than your average citizen”

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          Did you spill my pint? Are you lookin' at my bird? Eh? says:

          Oh, yeah? And just who were these so-called “Academics”? Eh? What the f*ck do they know? What poncy former-polytechnic do they come from.

          F*ckin stupid c*nts.

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          I don't need no doctor says:

          No we fucking are not. Piss off and mind your own fucking business. I hate labour and union leaders. Serwotka is a shit.

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        • 148
          Mr Slater's Parrot says:

          (stare) (fluff) OOYEWLOOKIN’AT!!! (bite) (ping) BOLLOCKS!! (cuttle)

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      Carpet Tax says:

      E Poos

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      When the Sp-eaker is away Sally will Play says:

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    • 196
      Silly Sally Bigcow says:

      It will be hanging out again if I wear just a towel again

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Whats the difference between a white fairy tale and a black fairy tale? A white fairy tale starts with “Once upon a time” a black one starts with “Ain’t no motherfucker gonna believe this shit!”

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    Anonymous says:

    Power/control has something to do with it

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Notice visitors up from 100k to 125k, must be the Campbell effect

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    Ah! Monika says:

    There is a certain compensation to be had from the fact that celebrity witnesses to the Leveson Inquiry gathered for a booze-up the other day at the Century Club in London’s Soho.
    Judge Leveson having issued an Olympian edict about how we journalists must respect his allegedly august inquiry, I will not pass comment on the probity or otherwise of witnesses gathering for what a sceptic might see as the improper celebration of a cabal.
    Instead, let it be noted that the Leveson witnesses, such brave tilters against the media, were drinking at a club which has among its shareholders several journalists — including your columnist!
    I hope we charged them top whack.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2069294/QUENTIN-LETTS-Pat-Phoenixs-lesson-champagne-socialism.html#ixzz1fSkF8Ljz

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    • 51

      Can’t stop this feeling that my auntie is posting whenever I see your moniker.

      You should use quotes otherwise we might be tempted to think that you are Quentin.

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      bandersnatch says:

      Once I saw Leveson creepily oiling up to those faux celeb, plaster saints the McCanns, who never cease to dip into any possible money-raising publicity, I knew what we were in for… ‘When your daughter was ABDUCTED’, for which there is no evidence, rather than ‘When your daughter WENT MISSING’, for which there is plenty of evidence, (when they were out on the lash) I knew how deeply and very judiciously neutral he was going to be… I’d be fascinated to know if the McCanns were amongst the throng at the Century Club booze up…

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  17. 38
    Jeremy Clarkson says:

    “I don’t understand bus lanes. Why do poor people have to get to places quicker than I do?”

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  18. 41
    Top dog says:

    Am I the only one who heard Ed Milliband say at PMQs that what dinner ladies etc. earn in a week, is what the Chancellor spends on his annual skiing holiday?
    Van he let me know where he goes, because I could do with a cheap holiday myself.

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      Red Ed's curiously morphing 'ooter! says:

      My nasal collapse was distracting me at the time

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      The Paragnostic says:

      You should read the Scottish Daily Record, where they automagically corrected Ed’s speech to read “year” instead of “week”.

      Mind you, Hansard didn’t let him off so lightly.

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    My black neighbour came up to me today and said “i’m sick of all the racist comments you slip in everytime we have a conversation. ” I said hold on a cotton pickin’ minute

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  20. 52

    Why doesn’t Leveson want to hear my opinion on the subject of phone hacking?

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  21. 57
    bird with small brain says:

    I have just read the Independent hatchet job in which comment was made about the angry abusive nature of the posts on Order Order. I regard such abuse as the direct equivalent of Jeremy Clarkson’s execution strategy – apart from a few paranoid schitzophrenics who mean what they say – it’s standard English understatement……..

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      Anonymous says:

      “Two academics did a study of comments on the feeds of political blogs, and noted that those who post on the Guido Fawkes blog are notably more aggressive and angrier than your average citizen. Their findings, published in the Oxford journal Parliamentary Affairs in January, noted: “Guido Fawkes had insults in 63 per cent of its posts. Some unacceptable content was removed by the moderator yet posts containing [an extremely rude phrase about Gordon Brown] were left…. This level of offensive language was extremely rare in any of the other blogs..”

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      • 82
        jeri boam says:

        Of course we are bloody angry , they’ve not asked us for permission to use our comments, what about our copywrite.

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      • 88
        a non says:

        “Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.”
        Oscar Wilde

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      • 89
        jgm2 says:

        yet posts containing [an extremely rude phrase about Gordon Brown] were left

        Maybe – but it’s hardly a state secret that Gordon Brown is/was an economy-destroying, wicked and malicious c*unt.

        Is it?

        Does that make it 64% now?

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          bandersnatch says:

          The level of invective tolerated elsewhere in blogs and forums is amazing low. I was once temporarily banned for using the phrase ‘can’t be @rsed’ and I had gone to all the trouble of using the ‘at’ key to cater for simple-minded ,extra sensitive souls… Sigh… Can’t even call a digging implement a bloody shovel these days…

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        "MY Free Speech, Not Yours!" says:

        “This level of offensive language was extremely rare in any of the other blogs…” The level of intelligent mordant wit seen on the Order-order.com website is extremely rare in any of the other blogs. Comes to that, it’s extremely rare anywhere nowadays in our Politically Correct world, where muzzling of the Press and Blogosphere can actually be mooted as a solution to what’s wrong with “society”.

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  22. 59
    labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    It’s a sobering fact that had Jeremy Clarkson said that all Conservatives should be taken out and shot in front of their families, the union bosses along with the striking socialists would have been up in arms and demanded his resignation.

    You believe that, nah course you don’t, but millions of people believe anything, look how the church got into the minds of folk with their devilry and had them running scared all of their lives; and now the socialist thought police are doing the same thing.

    Don’t even think of it, let alone say it.

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    I’ve not been drinking. Honestly.

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    RIP Sam Loxton

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  25. 77
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha…Dave thinks he can help? Don’t make me laugh. Every European leader thinks he’s a laughing stock with no moral or ethical backbone. He’s a poison chalice within Europe…Watch out for his embarrassment once again as the REAL European power brokers ignore him. Meanwhile he cons the British public.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15997784

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      jgm2 says:

      Cameron, like every British PM since 1973, (was it?) is a political cuckold.

      He’s trying to give the outward projection of being the man of the house, standing on the front step of Number 10, acting like he’s in charge, when everybody knows, legitatively sp*eaking, that DeLores and Barosso and their ilk are in the house arse-fucking his missusthe UK right under his nose.

      It says much for all our political parties that they will compete to play the role of cuckold rather than getting a shotgun and blowing the head off the fucker who’s shagging the missusUK.

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    Anonymous says:

    Cameron, outmanoeuvred again.

    Comes back from Europe with nothing, not even a piece of paper this time.

    United Sates of Europe here we come, with us on the sidelines.

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      Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

      The next thing we have to do, having capitulated to the new Europe, is to reinstate Labour’s former unrestricted immigration policy. Boaz.

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    • 130
      Reichsfueherin Angela Merkel says:

      Mwaaaa ha ha ha ha ha haaaa! HA HA HA HA HA HA!

      Aaaah ha ha ha aha ha HA HA HA..

      Oh Scheisse, I have my knickers pissed. Ah well, Dave will suck them dry for me.

      Heil Me!

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    The Puppet Master says:

    ” Two academics did a study of comments on the feeds of political blogs, and noted that those who post on the Guido Fawkes blog are notably more aggressive and angrier than your average citizen”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/paul-staines-the-worm-of-westminster-6271509.html

    I do hope this occurred while I was in my prime on here.

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    I don't need no doctor says:

    It’s got to be a deliberate ploy by labour to have Miliband and Balls in charge. Labour do not want to win, and then labour the next election because they knew the country wwill still be belly up. What better than to have the coalition sort the economy out, then labour will get rid of the two Ed’s, and wallop back in with a chance to fuck everything up again.

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      I don't need no doctor says:

      Apologies for my bad posting. It’s worse than a Billy Bowden offering.

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      a non says:

      Too true. Have often wondered the significance of schoolboy Ed M’s placement.
      Fall guy? Sydney Cartonesque suicide tendencies for love of his party? His failings compounded by his push for the plight of women suffering in these economic times would suggest he accepts his temporary role and the feminine slant promotes Mrs Balls being lined up for the distant future to thwart a classical Labour Scot being a shoe in again.
      Ed Balls however is another case apart. The guy has no scruples. Surely just the best on offer of a senior stop-gap bad bunch.

      Yvette and Chucky together. What a “nightmare on downing street” for the future.

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  29. 124
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Good take on the Clarkson story : http://t.co/cWJkWkIy

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  30. 132
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Is Billy Bowden the greatest umpire ever! says….in reality Ed Miliband?

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    One for Billy (see 49 above) says:

    When asked by a red necked American colleague in Atlanta “why don’t we grow cotton in England”, I muttered something about the weather. His reply was “well I don’t suppose you have the right colour people to pick it anyway”. I thought it best not to debate the point any further as he hung his sidearm on the clothes peg before entering the factory.

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    • 261
      Colonel Blimp (retd) says:

      Unfortunately we have FAR too many correctly coloured people to pick cotton.
      That is large;y what has made this country the hell-hole it is today, particularly in certain ghettos where “persons of colour” congregate.

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        Amber Rose Brown says:

        They must have lost their way in the dark – there definitely ain’t no cotton to pick anywhere hereabouts.

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  32. 139
    Jane Pig Grim says:

    UNIONS BRING ENORMOUS ADVANTAGES TO THE ECONOMY….

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    I don't need no doctor says:

    To Andy Mcsmith at the Independant.
    Maybe you are correct about people on this blog being angry. It’s the hypocrisy we can’t stand. You write about Guido having to face Leveson, but you don’t mention Tom Watson’s apology to Leveson. You don’t write about Campbell being the biggest hypocrite in the UK.
    You are, I’m afraid, typical of the media, you have your own agenda.

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    Engineer says:

    A brief comment for Andy McSmith.

    I like Guido’s blog, because it’s owner tries to expose the wrong-doings of some politicians. You’ll notice that the good guys rarely get mentioned, so most of them must be doing something right. Some of the wrong ‘uns get a pasting – mostly because they thoroughly deserve it. Most of us windowlickers want politics to be a clean and open business; to see our elected representatives acting in the country’s interests, and generally in accordance with our wishes.

    Us windowlickers are rude, are we? Have you never heard ordinary people discussing – well – most things? Guido allows most opinions, even if he doesn’t support them. Compare and contrast with the likes of Comment is Free, where comments expressing an opinion not of their liking are routinely moderated out. I would respectfully suggest that Guido’s commenters (a few trolls and the occasional nutter aside) reflect a strong strand of public opinion.

    In concluding this comment, I note that you take exception to the rudness, so shall accord you the politness you deserve. Please remove your head from your fundament and fuck off. Thank you.

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    Why Jeremy Clarkson Hates Bus Lanes says:

    Extremely O/T but for all you people out there who find Emma West, the “racist cow on the Tube” to be somehow a danger to you and yours, be thankful you don’t live in Philadelphia:

    And no, this isn’t an anti-American gun-control rant, so don’t even start…

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      Jeremy Clarkson says:

      So why wasn’t the woman with the mobile taken out and shot? The older woman had a gun– could have done it right then and there! Then, when the Old Bill arrived, they could have taken HER out and shot HER! All talk– Yanks for you!

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        jerk with two brains says:

        “America: 250 million w****rs living in a country with no word for w****r”

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        • 263
          Colonel Blimp (retd.) says:

          America – the only country to have gone from barbarism to decadence without an intervening period of civilisation.

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    • 297
      Uncle Sam says:

      OK then, the next time the barbarians with the pointy helmets and a little Austrian corporal with a Charlie Chaplin mustache start fuckin’ wit’ ya, we’ll leave ya to yer own business; bet that’d suit ya jes fine, huh?

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        Cherie Blair says:

        And because you were so good to us in 1917 and 1942, that’s why my hubby went along with your dear Mr. Bush in 2003; the least we could do, don’t you know? Ta for now!

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        The Paragnostic says:

        Could you try to turn up on time in future? 1917 was 3 years late, and 1941 only two, so maybe next time only a year late?

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          Uncle Sam says:

          What it is, is that we used to have this annoying habit of waiting till someone declared war against us, first. 1917= Germany promises to come to Mexico’s aid if Mexico invades the United States for real instead of piss-ant border raids, this to keep the US so busy close to home that we can’t join the fight in Europe that we were thinking we might have to fight if the Germans kept torpedoing our ships. (Cf Zimmermann note) 1941= Japs attack Pearl Harbor to prevent the US from stopping their takeover of the Phillipines, Netherlands East Indies and Singapore; we declare war against them, they declare war against Britain, Germany declares war against the US, we declare war against Germany.

          Of course nowadays nobody in the US Congress believes in the formality of a declaration of war any more, and we haven’t, since 1950 (Korea). We just pass “Resolutions” (which don’t resolve a GD thing) and hand the President a blank check, saying “Keep us informed from time to time,” i.e. when we hold budget hearings for the Defense Department.

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          • Really? says:

            I hadn’t been aware of how, or when (let alone why) the rules of engagement had changed since WWII. Thanks for educating me.

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          • Phil says:

            Ermmm am I missing something I was under the distinct impression Germany declared war on you in WW11 in support of their nip chums and by default you were at war with them but your declaration of war against adolph never happened.

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      nell says:

      delusional militwit listening to couple dozen leftwing women and then claiming he understands what women per se in the uk are worrying about!

      How about living within our means and only spending what we earn? He simply doesn’t hear that sort of housekeeping message at all!!

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    Rachel Takes a bath, with the great unwashed. says:

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    The mongs have taken over the mongylum says:

    I hope they don’t cancel the spastic Olympics, Billy’s put in a lot of training on here.

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    Schrödinger says:

    Has anyone seen my cat?

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    Gobble Gobble says:

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    nell says:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/paul-staines-the-worm-of-westminster-6271509.html

    Is pollytwaddle ghost writing for the independent now? Guido is a worm and we are apparently a loud of foul mouthed oiks with not an intelligent thought between us.

    Or could it be that this blog hits the mark once too often and the left is out to shut it up?!

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    • 312
      joescotus says:

      no one will ever trust a single word that pornographic, serial lying,article thieving,
      uberHunt hari utters ….ooops sorry the editor & some readers of the independent will

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    My boyfriend,Adam Werritty walked in the bedroom, blowing his nose.

    He sniffed a few times then said, “Can I smell spunk?”

    “More than likely,” I said, “I’ve just wiped my knob on your hankie.”

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  44. 206
    annette curton says:

    I’m ANGRY!, I’m extremely Angry Today again, so you can all fuck off the lot of you.

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  45. 216
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    I totally failed safety and health course today. Well, one of the questions was ”In the event of a fire, what steps would you take?”
    ”Fuckin’ large ones” was apparently the wrong answer.

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  46. 218
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Two toddlers fell ill after restaurant staff accidentally filled their bottles with bleach instead of water.

    I know how they feel, just last night a stupid barmaid filled my glass with fucking Fosters instead of Carlsberg.

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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    annette curton says:

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  49. 235
    Nick says:

    According to the Independent:

    “…Now that he is married, and a father of two daughters, his views on illegal drugs have become more conventional”

    I hope this is not accurate.

    Is this yet another of the Independent’s lies?

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    • 237
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      I am offened by that, he should be taken outside and shot!

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    • 243
      Elsie Beattie (83 and a quarter) says:

      Who, dear? My views on illegal drugs were always rather unconventional: trees would talk to me in ten thousand shades of green; cars would jump twenty yards at a time; the mists of time came pouring from my Wharfdale’s and, looking in the mirror I’d see my skin wrinkled and sagging as a prune.
      The last view may have been after the illegal drugs had worn off, dear.

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      • 266
        Colonel Blimp (retd.) says:

        From your Wharfedale’s WHAT? Arse, mouth, loudspeakers?
        Grammar.

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        • 293
          Sir Aston Martin says:

          (Speak it softly)

          Colonel, the full stop after your “retd” is redundant, and you need an elision mark, thus:

          Colonel Blimp (ret’d)

          Hope this helps, my invoice is in the post, etc.

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        • 326
          Lou Scannon says:

          Steady on. Our Elsie may have been a greengrocer in her formative years.

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  50. 236
    The Paragnostic says:

    Multicultural Britain at her best:

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iErUcSv1vQab7ltnV9T_GJmc8W2w?docId=CNG.1d3056683bdda9fad9ce5d56ae0e9259.3d1

    “Honour Crimes” – brought to you by G Brown and E Miliband, with the support of Unite and Unison.

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    • 244
      Moohamid Ramadanadingdong says:

      “Compared with 2009 figures released by 12 police forces, there was a 47 percent rise in incidents. The attacks included murder, mutilation, beatings, abduction and acid attacks.”

      And what is wrong with this, you silly infidels? Women who shame their families should be taken outside and shot, in front of their families. At the very least, they should have acid thrown in their faces. Inshallah.

      You are a filthy racist if you disagree.

      (PS: please be giving me more benefit money).

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      Colonel Blimp (retd.) says:

      I found it interesting that whilst looking at the BBC’s discussing the “honour” killings and associated violence to women, it was always “The Communities” doing it NOT THE FUCKING MUSLIMS.

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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  52. 250
    Billy's Bottom News says:

    “Puffin found dead in sexual health clinic.” Is nothing sacred?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-16016898

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  53. 251
    Article 38 says:

    Spread the word and stop the ‘Pilgrims’

    Trade Union Reform Campaign
    http://turc.org.uk/

    1.Public bodies should not pay for time spent by employees on trade union activity.
    2.The Trade Union Modernization and Trade Union Learning Fund should be scrapped.
    3.Public bodies should charge commercial rates for trade union usage of facilities.
    4.Public bodies should not be involved in the collection of trade union dues.
    5.Until TURC’s objectives are achieved, all public money, resources, paid and unpaid time off given to trade unions should be accounted for and regularly published

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    • 253
      A simple but effective alteration to the political levy says:

      6. Change the law to make it a legal requirement that unions must alter their rules so that members have to contract in to the making a political contribution from their monthly membership payments rather than as at present where members must contract out if they do not wish to have their membership subscription to include a levy to a political party

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      • 383
        Phil says:

        Spot on – cheap, effective and more importantly “DEMOCRATIC” which is why the Unions will fight tooth and nail to oppose it.
        Does every person who joins a union vote labour? I doubt it.

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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      The Paragnostic says:

      To be fair, not all Muslims are backward arseholes from barely civilised third world shitholes – but most of the ones we’ve let in are.

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    If there was a “Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever !” wiki page, what would it look like?

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  56. 275
    Colonel Blimp (retd.) says:

    I won’t watch the ordinary Olympics, so why would I want to watch the mongs and limpys having theirs?

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  57. 283
    not a machine says:

    “back in the black” or the bit they never really tell you about at elections regarding socialist economics .

    should have the best mathmeticians busy for centurys , just how do you not go bust when operating a ponzi scheme ??

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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    Window Licker says:

    Is the three legged race an official event in the spaz Olympics?

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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    'Gypsy' Dave Cooper says:

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  68. 353
    'Gypsy' Dave Cooper says:

    New government equality guidelines state that the ethnic mix of public sector departments should closely match that of the people they deal with.

    Fuck knows where they’re going to find 14,000 black prison officers.

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  69. 354
    'Gypsy' Dave Cooper says:

    Another hard week in the public sector:

    Monday: Diversity training
    Tuesday: Planning for strike day
    Wednesday: On strike/Xmas shopping
    Thursday: Whole day bitching about Clarkson
    Friday: Sickie

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  70. 358
    Ed Balls, Shallow Chancer says:

    ‘Cameron gets boost from new poll’ http://bit.ly/tHvp12

    WTF ?????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • 359
      RED ED - SON OF BROWN says:

      @The Conservatives are on 38 per cent, up two points from last month, with Labour down two on 36 per cent’ http://tgr.ph/viZgth

      WTF ?????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • 362
      Harridan Harmanhater says:

      I think we need a Plan ‘B’ for the Liebour party.

      It’s not working Eds. We need to change course………

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      • 370
        Labour needs more than a Plan B it needs some credible strategy to avoid jumping on bandwagons says:

        If Labour can’t get consistently more than 10 points ahead of the Tory Party in opinion polls… given everything that’s going on then they really are fucked….the public obviously don’t believe that Labour’s 5 point plan for the economy is credible even though Osborne’s plan has flaws and is taking on water…..Miliband may be a disaster as Labour leader but Balls as Shadow Chancellor is an even bigger problem for them…

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  71. 360
    I simply mention nationalities to fuck with the heads of the little inglanders on here says:

    TV Gold: Oliver Jones ( inglish) v Douglas Murray ( Scottish) on Sky News Paper review

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  72. 361

    Grateful Dead’s music touches on ground that most other groups don’t even know exists. Lenny Kaye

    Here is Cassidy:

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  73. 376
    nell says:

    I see everyone is still in bed here this morning. Anybody know if cameron’s called that referendum yet?

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    • 389
      The lights are going out all over Europe....that "Cast-Iron Guarantee" Promise is worthless says:

      You’ve got about as much chance of winning £20 million on the lottery as you have of Cameron calling a referendum….it’s obvious from the spinning coming out of Downing Street that any agreement on fiscal union will be spun as in the national interest and not affecting the UK only the Eurozone and therefore any treaty changes will not require a referendum.

      Cameron is desperate to avoid the necessity for a treaty change as it will require primary legislation in the HoC and Lords to effect and with almost 100 of his MPs(basically almost two thirds of those not on the government payroll and the likely resignation of several junior ministers)probable to vote against and the eurosceptics in his party and in the press whipping matters up(making the Maastrich Debate look like kindergarten)he’s shafted whichever way he plays it…I expect however that “Merkozy” duo will throw “Dave” some inconsequential scraps on the working time directive and social chapter so he can sell the negotiations as a “success” to the electorate and his party. But, of course, there is still that possible “Tobin Tax” which the French/Germans haven’t given up on and can impose on UK without the possibility of the UK veto by using other EU directives which only require majority voting(17 Eurozone members will vote as a bloc under German direction)and impose it on the City whatever Cameron is spinning.The only way to stop it is for the UK to get out of the EU and that’s not very likely under any of the present political leadership

      Daniel Hannan has the rights of it

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2069627/DANIEL-HANNAN-MEP-Well-chance-like-better-deal-Europe-So-wont-demand-one.html

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    So what happened to Socrates?

    http://t.co/qV2148mq

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    • 388
      J G McMong says:

      A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he’s pissed.
      I particularly miss him.
      It seems like only yesterday I wished him well.

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    • 390
      Axe The Telly Tax says:

      All we are is dust in the wind, Dude.

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    • 393
      plato says:

      A hemlock cocktail Billy, for showing too much interest in da yoot of Greece, if you know what I mean. Try it in Brighton tonight, it’ll will do you, and us, the world of good. Have a lovely evening.

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    Sometimes you come up with better thinking following a period of mature reflection. Andy McSmith’s piece in the Independent is a mixed bag, praising and then disparaging our host.

    Then it turns to the hoary old chestnut about what people should be allowed to say and what not. As if the form is more important than the content. True he cited that Oxford Journal of Parliamentary Affairs report (whilst getting its name wrong).

    To me this blog is like a breath of fresh air. I find all the comments erudite and informative. You get some rare ad hominem remarks but nothing you could not broadcast on BBC at around 5 pm on a weekday.

    One wonders what McSmith is on … the cυnt.

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    WMDs says:

    Poor old Socrates. Little did the poor fool know his fate was sealed as soon as he pressed flesh with the one-eyed son of the manse.

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/04/article-2069755-041D2CD1000005DC-474_468x515.jpg

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    Rob Roy. says:

    “Britain can’t afford to go cool on climate change” screams the Guardian. No freeze this winter says the Met Office. It’s snowing and fucking cold here
    in Glasgow, and its on its way south. Enjoy.

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      Anonymous says:

      I had to laugh the other day, Jim ‘the science is settled’ Naughtie, was chastising the Huhne dog for perhaps not doing enough about climate change. I fucking hate these knobs.

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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