November 15th, 2011

David Didn’t Get the Euro Memo

David Miliband doesn’t “know whether to weep or laugh” about the Eurocrisis. He’s taken to the pages of the FT to carefully place a hand grenade under yesterday’s attempts by Ed to rebalance Labour’s position on the EU, bringing it slightly closer to sceptic public opinion. Dougie Alexander got all “realistic” in his speech and the bloggers were dispatched to re-write history; with the most brazen attempt being LabourList’s “Did we even care about Europe ever really anyway?” And then it all started going wrong…

There was Lord Mandelson on Newsnight refusing to rule out ever joining, as well as refusing to apologise for declaring the Euro a wonderful sustainable success, just two years ago. And now in this morning’s FT Brother Miliband twists the knife. Apparently negotiating powers is  “deluded and dangerous” and the real key issue is the fact that “President van Rompuy is up for re-election in June.” Hardly in tune with the line his brother signed off yesterday for Wee Dougie:

“…any treaty change sought by Germany in response to the euro crisis as a legitimate occasion to look at the balance of powers between Europe and nation states.”

It turns out the most prominent figures in Labour do still care about Europe. Deeply…


  1. 1
    from spain says:

    were are next.


    • 6
      from spain says:

      Waited years to be first and then fucked it.
      We are next.


      • 16

        Mañana es para siempre.


        • 53
          puppet Dave says:

          My fellow benders,

          the UK’s woes are entirely the fault of the N_azi Eurozone, as can be seen from the Krauts’ pitiful growth rate of 2.5% over the last year compared to Bankers Citadel’s, sorry, UK’s, dynamic 0.5% growth rate, entirely down to the super-intelligent bankers, doing G_d’s work!


          • The Enron Chancellor says:

            German exports are so successful (in part, at least) because the Euro is artificially depressed by the PIIGS. If they still had to trade in DM, they’d have the problems of the Swiss Franc and their ports would be full of unsold Audis, Beemers and Mercs.

            Germany’s problem (apart from an inbuilt tendency to naively trust any figures that have an ‘official government’ imprimatur) is that they want to enjoy all the benefits of the Euro without any of the costs.


          • Iloathlefties says:

            Thats why they invented the Euro to keep their currency artificially low to enjoy high exports. As you say, they don’t want the costs of the PIIGS, so its austerity and make them all poor now!!


          • THE FOURTH REICH says:

            The empire will serve the needs of the German people. Rebellion will be crushed.

            Sieg Heil.


      • 102
        Anonymous says:

        Cameron is a fucking bullshitter, he now pretends he’s a Euro sceptic. Does he think we believe this bullshit, its only done to placate tory rebles.

        What a lying wanker the man is


    • 9
      BillyBob... says:

      Then France? reminds of why the French roads are lined with poplar trees……so the German army can march in the shade, perhaps :)


      • 28

        Are you attributing this unprecedented French prescience to intelligent design as it would have taken many years for those trees to be ready for their intended purpose.


        • 35
          Tessa Tickles says:

          Ah, but the French are now cutting the poplar trees down, much to the annoyance of the Dutch and English who have retired to France.

          The official explanation is “Health and Safety” (French drunk-drivers keep crashing into them), but I suspect the real reason is to make things tricky for the invading Wehrmacht. Unless Merkel’s Nazis bring suncream.


      • 29
        Ambrose Evans-Cockhard says:

        Give us all your fucking gold, you filthy Nazis!

        that ok, mr roths child?


    • 17
      Alice in Wonderland says:

      TweedleEd and TweedleDave
      Ran away and pretended to be brave
      The Lion & the Unicorn couldn’t even save
      The many people that Labour had paid

      TweedleEd smirked like the Cheshire Cat,
      So TweedleDave said enough of that
      To criticise the EUSSR is a terrible sin
      But who can expect the truth from the Bruvvers Grim?


    • 32
      Edward Miliband says:

      My elder brother and Lord Mandelson are no longer prominent figures in my party. They are yesterday’s men.


      • 33
        genghiz the kahn says:

        My elder brother and Lord Mandelson are no longer prominent figures in my party. They are yesterday’s men….

        waiting for the call from Brussels to act as regional commissars for the EU’s Northern Channel Provinces of Anglialand, Welshland, Scotchland and Nireland.


    • 37
      Up sh1t creek says:

      Hear the words of Peter Mandelson, a friend to certain bankers…..


    • 42
      Up sh1t creek says:

      The Euro-lovers didn’t like some home truths that Nigel Farage volleyed at them about the falling apart Euro currency and European project.


      • 87
        Cell time says:

        Scary stuff, Swedish must be questioning the intelligence of their MEP, 55% pro EU, 20% against and 35% don’t care! This might explain their inability to balance a budget.

        Nigel is the only one living in a reality I recognise.

        Feltham and Heston for first seat Nigel?


      • 96
        Great stuff from Farage says:

        Hope John Redwood has the guts to listen to the last comments on that clip. They blow his fake ‘renegotiation’ bullshit right out of the water


      • 97
        joolz says:

        My god only 1 person understands what is happening.

        Our Nige


    • 47
      Ho ho ho says:

      Cameron told a joke last night. Called himself a Euro sceptic.


    • 93
      Lord Lucan says:

      What else to you expect from Lord Mandy of Boy and his traitorous cabal. These are New-Labour hold outs, like those Japanese soldiers who wouldn’t surrender for years on Pacific islands. They are wedded to the idea of diluting British sovereignty in return for personal enrichment.

      In better, more just days they would be tried for Treason.


  2. 2
    BillyBob... says:

    Labour not sure……..again !


    • 21
      BillyBob... says:

      Being absolutely clear about it….. blah blah blah blah and more lies.


      • 60
        anon says:

        Perhaps plans are afoot for a future cinema blockbuster to promote Labour’s caring image and rival the recent Thatcher film?

        “All the precedents meant” coming to your screens soon.


  3. 2
    Rewind1616 says:



    • 104
      Handycock No1 Trougher in Parliament says:

      Withdrawal form the EU is totally unacceptable as I would not then be able to go on troughing and shagging trips to Eastern europe with the Council for Europe.


  4. 4
    Steve Miliband says:

    They all want to be President


  5. 5
    Mike Litorus says:

    Well, they are all Hunts, so it figures…


  6. 7
    Raving Loon says:

    How long will it be before Lord Mandelson is appointed ruler of the UK by the EU?


  7. 8
    Doktorb says:

    Labour’s automatic reaction is “Quick, rewrite history, nobody remembers anything anyway!”. The frantic peddling on Europe is brilliantly chaotic – the more Dave M is around as Blair’s representative on Earth, the less Ed can do to look like much of a credible leader [and he’s ain’t doing much of a job at that as it is]


  8. 10
    Josiah Bartlett says:

    You’d think Van Rumpy was being re-elected by the people.

    On the election front, I see Spain are having one this weekend. I assume they must have official permission to hold one from Herman, Angela and Little Nicky?


  9. 11

    Fecking EU fifth columnists the lot of ‘em!


  10. 13
    Widescreen2010 says:

    So it looks like it is just me left, then.
    Let’s join the Euro!
    I’m fed up with carrying two currencies (plus occaisional odd-ball ones).
    Mightily relieved it isn’t more (Francs, Marks and Guilders).
    Let’s drop the Pound, it is just a pain in the arse.

    Who’s with me?


  11. 15
    The lights are going out all over Europe...but one things sure this lot couldn't light a match... says:

    I not even faintly surprised at Ed’s response…Labour under .the present leadership is all about opportunism and populism and like most things they see a bandwagon and jump on it…they would do better to actually have some credible/realistic policies on the defict and growth and until they actually acknowledge their respectiove parts in creating the majority of the financial mess within the country which exacerbated our present economic malaise and also admit that they too would be cuttting jobs and services in the public sector nobody should even contemplate voting for them…..the Coalition is far from perfect but I thank our lucky stars that we are not being governed by labout as if we were the situation would be very much worse on par with Greece/Italy and Spain etc all rolled into one…..there is a vacuum at the centre of UK politics and no there is no one in government or Parliament who one can even perceive as a leader in this crisis but then again let’s face it there is no-one in Europe or the States who you could actually say has shown ANY leadership over the economic crisis either


  12. 19
    Now there's no lights on the christmas tree mother says:

    These disgusting creatures called politicians will go whatever way to get what they want!


  13. 20
    crystal ball says:

    Labour to rip itself to pieces over Europe?


    • 67
      jgm2 says:

      No. Deliberate confusion marketing. So, no matter what happens they can claim that somebody senior in the party foresaw it and therefore that particular outcome was what they’d all predicted.


  14. 23
    Loungelizard says:

    Would Cameron be so keen on the EU if Gordon managed to swing the Presidency? End of the EU two months max.


    • 30
      Gordon F Brown says:

      I don’t go to Westminster let alone Brussels.

      Could I be President in exile? I need the money because my books don’t sell…


    • 31
      Steve Miliband says:

      Imagine Gordon Brown, worst PM ever, being President! It would be worth it, just for the comedy value and would absolutely guarantee EU meltdown


    • 70
      jgm2 says:

      I think Osborne/Cameron would veto that scenario. Not that the Europeans are stupid enough to put a mono-lingual mental case forward as a credible candidate for anything other than operating the security barrier at their c*ar park.


    • 71
      jgm2 says:

      I think Osborne/Cameron would veto that scenario. Not that the Europ*eans are stupid enough to put a mono-lingual mental case forward as a credible candidate for anything other than operating the security barrier at their c*ar park.


    • 88
      Humanitarian says:

      Have we no pity? What on earth have the poor peoples of Europe ever done to deserve having Gordon Brown imposed on them as president?


  15. 26
    Hang The Bastards says:

    ED the Tvvat Milliband has realised that all he has to do is offer the British Public a referendum, say they got it wrong and he will be in power for ever.!


  16. 27
    Gordon F Brown says:

    I will not be making a statement on this topic in the house because I don’t actually go there to represent my constituents. Nobody seems to mind…


    • 39
      Fabians are Evil. says:

      Fuck Labour, Fuck the EU, and Fuck Gordon bloody Brown and his bunch of cretinous scum along with Blairs babes and the whole of the rancid socialist creeps who infest the unions and Labour.


    • 50
      Thick as pig shit voter from Cowdenbeath says:

      I FUCKIN MIND………..


    • 65
      Nothing became him as his manner in defeat says:

      Quite right Gordon…Parliament is a vastly over-rated talking shop….far better to stay North of the Border in a splendid sulk doing vast reputational damage to yourself in the process…


      • 72
        Selohesra says:

        You imply that he he had a reputation to damage


        • 85
          Nothing became him as his manner in defeat says:

          True….but I took the “charitable” view that he at least still had a vestige of regard to his place in history and thatperhaps as an ex-PM and Chancellor of the Exchequer he may have thought that his presence in the odd Parliamentary debate especially on matters pertaining to the Eiuro Crisis/Economy etc may have been expected although on his last outing on phone hacking he managed to further damage what little reputation he actually still had by his strange slef-pitying monologue…however I confidentally expect him to be present and speak during the Autumn Statement……although I note that recently there have been sights of flying objects of a porcine variety over the Palace of Westmnster


    • 68
      Get this into the MSM says:

      Exercise your rights


  17. 34
    Theresa May says:

    If you wish to enter the UK with no papers and unchecked luggage hire a private jet. It’s only the little people who present a threat.


  18. 36
    genghiz the kahn says:

    I pwomise a weferendum on theith Euwopean Union ovew my dead bodyth.


  19. 38
    Sophie says:

    Lab / Con / Lib Dems – all agree on the destination within the EU for Great Britain – they merely disagree on the route to serfdom for the British citizens & taxzpayers.

    Cameron is waking up to UKIP much too late – his Heathite Euro fanaticism is as deeply felt as Cleggs. Miliband would do anything to be a player in the EUSSR – his commie father would be so proud.

    Vote UKIP.


  20. 41
    Axe The Telly Tax says:

    I will only believe Liebore are seriously Eurosceptic when they elect Frank Field and Kate Hoey as leader and deputy leader and purge the party of Europhile scum.

    Until then Liebore can fuck off and die along with the traitorous Fibdems.


    • 54
      albacore says:

      Look not upon Labour, for ’tis red
      (So’s Clegg and Camo. They’re all in bed)
      Being the Parliament ain’t that hard
      They’ve got this magic gold credit card
      For money solves all the country’s ills
      Be it law, defence or paying bills
      There’s nowt at all that money can’t fix
      They chuck away more until it sticks
      They’re happy chaps. They haven’t a care
      Let the poor, dumb taxpayer despair


    • 57
      Tessa Tickles says:

      You can always trust Labour on Europe.

      “It [the EU constitution] is a good treaty for Britain and for the new Europe. We will put it to the British people in a referendum.” – Labour 2005 election manifesto, page 84.


      • 78
        Selohesra says:

        Its all very well for you to pick holes in their record but what you fail to understand is that when they wrote that passage (and many others) they had their fingers crossed thus completely negating the validity of your criticism


        • 98
          Cleaner who scrapes bogies from off the benches says:

          They didn’t need to cross their fingers. There has already been a legal challenge to Labour breaking a manifesto promise and their legal defence would appear to be that they are liars.

          Cecilia Ivimy, for the government, said: “A manifesto promise is incapable of giving rise to a legally binding contract with the electorate. It is a point which is so obvious that I don’t want to labour it.”

          Mr Bower, a UKIP parliamentary hopeful …
          said: “To file a defence that says ‘I can be a blatant liar in a manifesto and get away with it’ is utterly mind-boggling…”


  21. 44
    Cynic says:

    I want von Rumpey Pumpy’s job and under European Equality Legislation I must have aright to apply or my Human Rights will also have been broken.


  22. 45
    Dionne Warwick says:

    Walk on by.


  23. 49
    ex-Tory says:

    David Miliband was the political elite’s choice. Ed only stood as leader to split the hard socialist vote. The fact he ended up winning was not part of the plan. He will be gone by the next election to be replaced by his brother or some other chosen placeman.


  24. 58
    Alf Garnett says:

    If the hideous twosome of “Fyffe” Miliband and “Rear Entry” Mandelson opine that something is good, true or worthwhile, then all honest and sensible people should take immediate steps to assume the opposite.

    What a pair of charlatans.


  25. 59
    Anonymous says:

    “And then it all started going wrong…”

    Why would you think that?

    Being opposed by the cυnts you mention should be seen as good news for Ed.


  26. 69
    RED ED - SON OF BROWN says:

    Why are some people calling me Ed Milibandwagon ???


  27. 75
    get back to work you lazy sods says:

    Why the fuck is the House of Commons in recess from tomorrow?


    • 90
      Larry the Cat says:

      There are only about 40 shopping days till Christmas, give or take a pre-Yuletide dirty weekend away with the mistress. What do you expect MPs to to? Work up till Christmas Eve?


  28. 81
    Bogbrush says:

    There shitting it incase the ‘project ‘ starts to be unnravelled by the fact people are realy and truely not beleeving any word that comes out of any of the lieing gob’s. There gaffor Rot=hs’ch’iyd needs a nuw line for Camuroon Milband and all the other tra/’s so they can keep bleedin’ us dry in iggneranse.


  29. 89
    Back in the EUSSR says:

    I will be as succinct as I can. The EU project is simply totalitarianism by the back door.


  30. 91
    Mystick1 says:

    Kate Hoey and Frank Field are the only two honest MPs on the opposition benches. The rest are just shit.


  31. 99
    Farmer says:

    I saw Tony Blair talking about the EU crisis on TV the other day, then Peter Mandelson talking about it on Newsnight and now David Milliband writing in the FT about it.

    Now I might be overthinking this but given there is an election for EU President in June – is there any chance Tony Blair is planning to stand for the post?


    • 100
      Cleaner who scrapes bogies from off the benches says:

      I hope so – it’s one of those things that would focus British people’s hatred onto the EU.

      Also it will just shit on Gordo’s day, which is fine by me.


  32. 103
    gildedtumbril says:

    You find millipedes under stones where they do useful work recycling detritus. Useful work is something you will never get out of the millipede brothers.They are career parasites of the lowest order. They belong under stones. Their presence in the HoC is an insult to us all. I curse all the dimwits who vote for them.


  33. 106
    Gareth says:

    As a Tory voter, I love the fact that Labour has shot themselves in the foot by electing such a dimwit to run their party. Unfortunately for them they still don’t realise their naive left wing idealism is so out of touch with the rest of the country the haven’t got a hope in hell of winning the next election. Come on Cameron get us out of Europe!


  34. 108
    Brian Parkhurst says:

    We need a new e-petition to debate in the House of Commons, the requirement to have an in/out/partial EU referendum in the event of a new treaty.
    We must stop Cameron from excluding the opportunity to vote for withdrawal or partial withdrawal from the EU should he honour his promise to hold a referendum should a new treaty or serious non-treaty change be required to be voted on by all EU members.


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