David Didn’t Get the Euro Memo
David Miliband doesn’t “know whether to weep or laugh” about the Eurocrisis. He’s taken to the pages of the FT to carefully place a hand grenade under yesterday’s attempts by Ed to rebalance Labour’s position on the EU, bringing it slightly closer to sceptic public opinion. Dougie Alexander got all “realistic” in his speech and the bloggers were dispatched to re-write history; with the most brazen attempt being LabourList’s “Did we even care about Europe ever really anyway?” And then it all started going wrong…
There was Lord Mandelson on Newsnight refusing to rule out ever joining, as well as refusing to apologise for declaring the Euro a wonderful sustainable success, just two years ago. And now in this morning’s FT Brother Miliband twists the knife. Apparently negotiating powers is ”deluded and dangerous” and the real key issue is the fact that “President van Rompuy is up for re-election in June.” Hardly in tune with the line his brother signed off yesterday for Wee Dougie:
“…any treaty change sought by Germany in response to the euro crisis as a legitimate occasion to look at the balance of powers between Europe and nation states.”
It turns out the most prominent figures in Labour do still care about Europe. Deeply…
were are next.
Waited years to be first and then fucked it.
We are next.
Mañana es para siempre.
My fellow benders,
the UK’s woes are entirely the fault of the N_azi Eurozone, as can be seen from the Krauts’ pitiful growth rate of 2.5% over the last year compared to Bankers Citadel’s, sorry, UK’s, dynamic 0.5% growth rate, entirely down to the super-intelligent bankers, doing G_d’s work!
German exports are so successful (in part, at least) because the Euro is artificially depressed by the PIIGS. If they still had to trade in DM, they’d have the problems of the Swiss Franc and their ports would be full of unsold Audis, Beemers and Mercs.
Germany’s problem (apart from an inbuilt tendency to naively trust any figures that have an ‘official government’ imprimatur) is that they want to enjoy all the benefits of the Euro without any of the costs.
Thats why they invented the Euro to keep their currency artificially low to enjoy high exports. As you say, they don’t want the costs of the PIIGS, so its austerity and make them all poor now!!
The empire will serve the needs of the German people. Rebellion will be crushed.
Sieg Heil.
Cameron is a fucking bullshitter, he now pretends he’s a Euro sceptic. Does he think we believe this bullshit, its only done to placate tory rebles.
What a lying wanker the man is
Then France? reminds of why the French roads are lined with poplar trees……so the German army can march in the shade, perhaps
Are you attributing this unprecedented French prescience to intelligent design as it would have taken many years for those trees to be ready for their intended purpose.
Ah, but the French are now cutting the poplar trees down, much to the annoyance of the Dutch and English who have retired to France.
The official explanation is “Health and Safety” (French drunk-drivers keep crashing into them), but I suspect the real reason is to make things tricky for the invading Wehrmacht. Unless Merkel’s Nazis bring suncream.
Generals January and February will do for them just like they did for Napolean and Hitler.
If the French had an ounce of sense, they would be planting more trees.
They make for a living stockade against invasion.
Give us all your fucking gold, you filthy Nazis!
that ok, mr roths child?
TweedleEd and TweedleDave
Ran away and pretended to be brave
The Lion & the Unicorn couldn’t even save
The many people that Labour had paid
TweedleEd smirked like the Cheshire Cat,
So TweedleDave said enough of that
To criticise the EUSSR is a terrible sin
But who can expect the truth from the Bruvvers Grim?
My elder brother and Lord Mandelson are no longer prominent figures in my party. They are yesterday’s men.
My elder brother and Lord Mandelson are no longer prominent figures in my party. They are yesterday’s men….
waiting for the call from Brussels to act as regional commissars for the EU’s Northern Channel Provinces of Anglialand, Welshland, Scotchland and Nireland.
Hear the words of Peter Mandelson, a friend to certain bankers…..
Do not forget that Mandelson will lose his EU pension if he criticizes the EU.
The Euro-lovers didn’t like some home truths that Nigel Farage volleyed at them about the falling apart Euro currency and European project.
Scary stuff, Swedish must be questioning the intelligence of their MEP, 55% pro EU, 20% against and 35% don’t care! This might explain their inability to balance a budget.
Nigel is the only one living in a reality I recognise.
Feltham and Heston for first seat Nigel?
Is that woman Kirsty Squawk’s sister?
Hope John Redwood has the guts to listen to the last comments on that clip. They blow his fake ‘renegotiation’ bullshit right out of the water
My god only 1 person understands what is happening.
Our Nige
Cameron told a joke last night. Called himself a Euro sceptic.
That’s one of those jokes where the audience laugh at the teller and not with him…
What else to you expect from Lord Mandy of Boy and his traitorous cabal. These are New-Labour hold outs, like those Japanese soldiers who wouldn’t surrender for years on Pacific islands. They are wedded to the idea of diluting British sovereignty in return for personal enrichment.
In better, more just days they would be tried for Treason.
Labour not sure……..again !
Being absolutely clear about it….. blah blah blah blah and more lies.
Perhaps plans are afoot for a future cinema blockbuster to promote Labour’s caring image and rival the recent Thatcher film?
“All the precedents meant” coming to your screens soon.
Hunts
Withdrawal form the EU is totally unacceptable as I would not then be able to go on troughing and shagging trips to Eastern europe with the Council for Europe.
Is this what our once proud country has sunk to? Lock him up and throw away the key.
They all want to be President
Well, they are all Hunts, so it figures…
How long will it be before Lord Mandelson is appointed ruler of the UK by the EU?
Shirley, he should be queen?
You know he doesn’t called to be called Shirley in public.
Labour’s automatic reaction is “Quick, rewrite history, nobody remembers anything anyway!”. The frantic peddling on Europe is brilliantly chaotic – the more Dave M is around as Blair’s representative on Earth, the less Ed can do to look like much of a credible leader [and he's ain't doing much of a job at that as it is]
More Flip Flops than a Spanish beach
More tits than in Shagaluf.
more full of shit than mark oaten’s toothbrush ?
Ed has described a Labour MP who died of cancer as Labour through and through. A somewhat unfortunate comparison, I feel.
You’d think Van Rumpy was being re-elected by the people.
On the election front, I see Spain are having one this weekend. I assume they must have official permission to hold one from Herman, Angela and Little Nicky?
Fecking EU fifth columnists the lot of ‘em!
So it looks like it is just me left, then.
Let’s join the Euro!
I’m fed up with carrying two currencies (plus occaisional odd-ball ones).
Mightily relieved it isn’t more (Francs, Marks and Guilders).
Let’s drop the Pound, it is just a pain in the arse.
Who’s with me?
Me. I want to be El Presidento one day. Way above my payscale, but no one looks down a camera better than me. Senorita C would be awfully pleased with me for once
Moot point whether, over the long or mid term, whether UK joining the Euro and bringing it’s X* trillion of debt with it would assist it or cause it to sink even faster.
* Insert any integer between 1 and 9, according to taste and dogma.
Debt is not a problem.
Fucking is when the interest rates start to rise…
I not even faintly surprised at Ed’s response…Labour under .the present leadership is all about opportunism and populism and like most things they see a bandwagon and jump on it…they would do better to actually have some credible/realistic policies on the defict and growth and until they actually acknowledge their respectiove parts in creating the majority of the financial mess within the country which exacerbated our present economic malaise and also admit that they too would be cuttting jobs and services in the public sector nobody should even contemplate voting for them…..the Coalition is far from perfect but I thank our lucky stars that we are not being governed by labout as if we were the situation would be very much worse on par with Greece/Italy and Spain etc all rolled into one…..there is a vacuum at the centre of UK politics and no there is no one in government or Parliament who one can even perceive as a leader in this crisis but then again let’s face it there is no-one in Europe or the States who you could actually say has shown ANY leadership over the economic crisis either
These disgusting creatures called politicians will go whatever way to get what they want!
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Labour to rip itself to pieces over Europe?
No. Deliberate confusion marketing. So, no matter what happens they can claim that somebody senior in the party foresaw it and therefore that particular outcome was what they’d all predicted.
Would Cameron be so keen on the EU if Gordon managed to swing the Presidency? End of the EU two months max.
I don’t go to Westminster let alone Brussels.
Could I be President in exile? I need the money because my books don’t sell…
Imagine Gordon Brown, worst PM ever, being President! It would be worth it, just for the comedy value and would absolutely guarantee EU meltdown
Think he’d get a block vote from UKIP?
He should definitely apply – he has all the necessary qualifications.
I think Osborne/Cameron would veto that scenario. Not that the Europeans are stupid enough to put a mono-lingual mental case forward as a credible candidate for anything other than operating the security barrier at their c*ar park.
I think Osborne/Cameron would veto that scenario. Not that the Europ*eans are stupid enough to put a mono-lingual mental case forward as a credible candidate for anything other than operating the security barrier at their c*ar park.
Have we no pity? What on earth have the poor peoples of Europe ever done to deserve having Gordon Brown imposed on them as president?
ED the Tvvat Milliband has realised that all he has to do is offer the British Public a referendum, say they got it wrong and he will be in power for ever.!
I will not be making a statement on this topic in the house because I don’t actually go there to represent my constituents. Nobody seems to mind…
Fuck Labour, Fuck the EU, and Fuck Gordon bloody Brown and his bunch of cretinous scum along with Blairs babes and the whole of the rancid socialist creeps who infest the unions and Labour.
I trutht I can rely on your vote at the next electthion?
I FUCKIN MIND………..
Quite right Gordon…Parliament is a vastly over-rated talking shop….far better to stay North of the Border in a splendid sulk doing vast reputational damage to yourself in the process…
You imply that he he had a reputation to damage
True….but I took the “charitable” view that he at least still had a vestige of regard to his place in history and thatperhaps as an ex-PM and Chancellor of the Exchequer he may have thought that his presence in the odd Parliamentary debate especially on matters pertaining to the Eiuro Crisis/Economy etc may have been expected although on his last outing on phone hacking he managed to further damage what little reputation he actually still had by his strange slef-pitying monologue…however I confidentally expect him to be present and speak during the Autumn Statement……although I note that recently there have been sights of flying objects of a porcine variety over the Palace of Westmnster
Exercise your rights
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/6039
If you wish to enter the UK with no papers and unchecked luggage hire a private jet. It’s only the little people who present a threat.
If you wish to enter the UK with nothing other than a desire to kill as many people as possible, just show up. The door’s open, on the express orders of Theresa “let the little people eat lead” May.
Come one, come millions !!!!
http://bit.ly/ovAq8r
How on earth do you think one gets the drugs and the guns in, on Ryanair?
I pwomise a weferendum on theith Euwopean Union ovew my dead bodyth.
Lab / Con / Lib Dems – all agree on the destination within the EU for Great Britain – they merely disagree on the route to serfdom for the British citizens & taxzpayers.
Cameron is waking up to UKIP much too late – his Heathite Euro fanaticism is as deeply felt as Cleggs. Miliband would do anything to be a player in the EUSSR – his commie father would be so proud.
Vote UKIP.
I will only believe Liebore are seriously Eurosceptic when they elect Frank Field and Kate Hoey as leader and deputy leader and purge the party of Europhile scum.
Until then Liebore can fuck off and die along with the traitorous Fibdems.
Look not upon Labour, for ’tis red
(So’s Clegg and Camo. They’re all in bed)
Being the Parliament ain’t that hard
They’ve got this magic gold credit card
For money solves all the country’s ills
Be it law, defence or paying bills
There’s nowt at all that money can’t fix
They chuck away more until it sticks
They’re happy chaps. They haven’t a care
Let the poor, dumb taxpayer despair
You can always trust Labour on Europe.
“It [the EU constitution] is a good treaty for Britain and for the new Europe. We will put it to the British people in a referendum.” – Labour 2005 election manifesto, page 84.
http://ucrel.lancs.ac.uk/wmatrix/tutorial/labour%20manifesto%202005.pdf
Its all very well for you to pick holes in their record but what you fail to understand is that when they wrote that passage (and many others) they had their fingers crossed thus completely negating the validity of your criticism
They didn’t need to cross their fingers. There has already been a legal challenge to Labour breaking a manifesto promise and their legal defence would appear to be that they are liars.
Cecilia Ivimy, for the government, said: “A manifesto promise is incapable of giving rise to a legally binding contract with the electorate. It is a point which is so obvious that I don’t want to labour it.”
Mr Bower, a UKIP parliamentary hopeful …
said: “To file a defence that says ‘I can be a blatant liar in a manifesto and get away with it’ is utterly mind-boggling…”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7233175.stm
I want von Rumpey Pumpy’s job and under European Equality Legislation I must have aright to apply or my Human Rights will also have been broken.
Walk on by.
David Miliband was the political elite’s choice. Ed only stood as leader to split the hard socialist vote. The fact he ended up winning was not part of the plan. He will be gone by the next election to be replaced by his brother or some other chosen placeman.
That’s a very interesting hypothesis, and I think it’s right.
But my money’s on Yvette
BallsCooper becoming leader.Need to associate her with Blair/Brown experiment at every opportunity, she is tarnished goods for more than 1 reason
I’m sure you’re right. Ed’s the fall guy, part of the sanitation program. Take the flack for the past thirteen years then flush him.
Balls
No, I think they’ll offer us Upchucka. They’re arrogant enough to think that the electorate are stupid enough to fall for Brit Obama stunt.
They fell for Blair…
David: “So, Ed, you can be Medvedev and I’ll be…”
Ed: “No, YOU can be Medvedev, and I’ll…”
David: “No,…”
Bagsy being Gorbachev.
If the hideous twosome of “Fyffe” Miliband and “Rear Entry” Mandelson opine that something is good, true or worthwhile, then all honest and sensible people should take immediate steps to assume the opposite.
What a pair of charlatans.
I had that Mandelson in my rooms once
“And then it all started going wrong…”
Why would you think that?
Being opposed by the cυnts you mention should be seen as good news for Ed.
Why are some people calling me Ed Milibandwagon ???
because cuиt was already taken.
Why the fuck is the House of Commons in recess from tomorrow?
There are only about 40 shopping days till Christmas, give or take a pre-Yuletide dirty weekend away with the mistress. What do you expect MPs to to? Work up till Christmas Eve?
There shitting it incase the ‘project ‘ starts to be unnravelled by the fact people are realy and truely not beleeving any word that comes out of any of the lieing gob’s. There gaffor Rot=hs’ch’iyd needs a nuw line for Camuroon Milband and all the other tra/it.er’s so they can keep bleedin’ us dry in iggneranse.
I will be as succinct as I can. The EU project is simply totalitarianism by the back door.
Kate Hoey and Frank Field are the only two honest MPs on the opposition benches. The rest are just shit.
I saw Tony Blair talking about the EU crisis on TV the other day, then Peter Mandelson talking about it on Newsnight and now David Milliband writing in the FT about it.
Now I might be overthinking this but given there is an election for EU President in June – is there any chance Tony Blair is planning to stand for the post?
I hope so – it’s one of those things that would focus British people’s hatred onto the EU.
Also it will just shit on Gordo’s day, which is fine by me.
You find millipedes under stones where they do useful work recycling detritus. Useful work is something you will never get out of the millipede brothers.They are career parasites of the lowest order. They belong under stones. Their presence in the HoC is an insult to us all. I curse all the dimwits who vote for them.
As a Tory voter, I love the fact that Labour has shot themselves in the foot by electing such a dimwit to run their party. Unfortunately for them they still don’t realise their naive left wing idealism is so out of touch with the rest of the country the haven’t got a hope in hell of winning the next election. Come on Cameron get us out of Europe!
We need a new e-petition to debate in the House of Commons, the requirement to have an in/out/partial EU referendum in the event of a new treaty.
We must stop Cameron from excluding the opportunity to vote for withdrawal or partial withdrawal from the EU should he honour his promise to hold a referendum should a new treaty or serious non-treaty change be required to be voted on by all EU members.