November 14th, 2011



  1. 1
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Wish maggie was in charge now.


    • 4
      Cogito Dexter says:

      Too damn right.

      This film is going right at the top of my Must Watch list.


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      MI6 says:

      Yeah, She is the Cu-t who destroyed UK industry. Deregulated the Banks in 86 so they could play the international markets. Brought us endowment mortgages allowed all of the council houses to fall into immigrants hands so they could rent them out and build a nice cheap property portfolio. Smashed the coal industry privatised North Sea Oil and Gas, while the Norweigian sector still subsidizes one the best health sytems in the world have the most cash in hand of any country per head of population. Yeah Well done maggie you did a fu–in Great Job of fu–in the county with your public school boy mates


      • 32
        Cato Street Conspirator says:

        I thought Eddie Izzard was marked down for the part.


      • 33
        MI6 says:

        How is rail Track doing?? Or the robbing British Gas. Any ones Bill going up while international energy prices are falling in relation to the BOE printing money with their Fed State economic terrorists.


      • 34
        Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

        How many banks needed bailouts from 1979-1997 (UK) and then how many banks needed bailouts from 1997-2010 (government bailouts).


        • 38

          Excellent response to that prat.


          • Iloathlefties says:

            Oh Maggie we love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A real stateswoman, patriot with balls to get things done and stand up for Britain and its people. The present shower and the previous Government can’t hold a candle to her.


          • Lobster says:

            How come she sold us to the EU then? The Single European Act 1987 and the fondation of the Maastricht Treaty 1989-90 which that clown Major signed off on between banging the Egg Queen. The only reason the banks didn’t need bailing out was that they had not been able to fulfil their wet dream of lending money to people who could not afford it and then getting the rest of us to pay for it, but they soon got that sorted. Labour or Tory its Banker that matters.


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          Rage Against the Political Elite says:

          UK was the 5th largest OIL producer in World the Revenue Propped up the Fuckwit economics and economic terrorism perpetrated on the country by every government since. Wake up please. Thatcher was a useless fucking troll that surrounded herself with a load of Public school boys who couldn’t run a corner shop.


      • 40
        I don't need no doctor says:

        UK industry destroyed itself. Useless management and scumbag union leaders.


        • 44
          john in cheshire says:

          Quite so. The 70s was the decade where socialists taught me to hate them.


        • 248
          Rage Against the Political Elite says:

          Yeah Shit management and Shit Union Men working for MI5. They did a great job at fu-king everything same as they did in the IRA.


      • 46
        jgm2 says:

        She is the Cu-t who destroyed UK industry.

        Miss the Austin Princess do you?

        allowed all of the council houses to fall into immigrants hands so they could rent them out and build a nice cheap property portfolio.

        Yet you don’t blame the native council house squatters who sold ‘em to the immigrants?

        Smashed the coal industry

        You say that like it’s a bad thing. Although I think you’ll find it was Scargill who smashed it.

        privatised North Sea Oil and Gas, while the Norweigian sector still subsidizes one the best health sytems in the world

        Norway has the same amount of oil(ish) and about 7% of the population. And no immigrants to speak of or supply with council houses.

        Yeah Well done maggie you did a fu–in Great Job of fu–in the county with your public school boy mates

        Ha! T’was Maggie that saved it only for the Maximum Imbecile to spend 13 years fucking it up again.


        • 250
          Rage Against the Political Elite says:

          Are all of you so brain washed to think that the colour of you politics has anything to do with who is running the country.
          WAKE UP. Its all the same Ponsi scheme. Just try and get any of them to give us a referendum on EUROPE. Starting to ring any bells.


      • 72
        Milimong's Parasite Party says:

        Thatcher was disgraceful for closing the coal mines.

        That’s why Labour re-opened them.

        All of them.

        Some of them.

        One or two.



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          Ordinary Bloke says:

          and the little fact that Labour closed more Coal Mines in the the 1960s than the Conservatives ever did. But hey dont that get in the way of your world View


          • They're all the same says:

            The Labour Party never supported the miners, industry or workers – nobody who follows the state sanctioned ‘labour’ movement expected otherwise.

            Their role is to buy off worker’s consent before handing over to their
            fellow Parliamentarians on the other side of the House.


          • Charlie says:

            Good point. The problem is that UK is relatively expensive to obtain- coal seams are often deep, thin, the working face is often miles away from the shaft,there is extensive faulting , folding plus problems with water and gas.
            Many coal mines in the USA are relatively shallow, flat and the seams are thicker. The Mississippi-Missouri – River enables 250,000T barges to transport the coal to sea ports very cheaply. Many of the the other major coal deposits are cheaper to work. Gladstone wanted to pay off the national debt before the coal ran out. Most mineral deposits are finite with regard to profitable working.

            The unions striking reduced quality. Strikes delayed delivery of goods which pushed up prices for te buyer- especially troublesome in merchant shipping.The unions resulted in over manning in many industries and pushed up prices. The unions resisted the introduction of new technology e.g Wapping and the introduction of computer controlled newspaper printing.

            Technology tends to reduce the employment of unskilled and semi-skilled labour. New technology creates new industries but often requiring higher standardss of education and training for many employees. A combine harvetser requires more advanced technology to build than a sickle. A plane requires more advanced technology to build than a traine which is more advanced than a canal boat . Labour has never appreciated in the advances in technology and globalisation on employment.

            There was a larger percentage decline in manufacturing under Labour than Maggie. Margaret Hodge actually thought a suitable job for a tool maker from Longbridge was stacking shelves at asupermarket.


      • 148
        Stu says:

        Destroyed UK industry, some how, having been there, I seem to remember out of control unions and strikes that destroyed Uk industry you fucking idiot


        • 179
          smoggie says:

          Manufacturing was already fucked by 1979. The 3 day week was Callaghan’s doing and it wasn’t Maggie that went with a begging bowl to the IMF.


          The Mining industry is not “manufacturing”.


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          CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

          Industry wasn’t destroyed. The dead was cut away from the taxpayers expense and the remainder was allowed to get efficient and compete with foriegn companies. Manufacturing only decreased by 3% of GDP during the ’80s, and that was despite a big increase in the service sector. During Labour’s great “boom” years it decreased by 8%!

          True enough, a lot less people (striking trade unionists mainly) were employed in manufacturing after the ’80s. But that was only because they had been shamefully subsidised for decades because the strangle hold the communist trade unions had on governments.


          • Wendy Bendy says:

            Well said. If only media types (DM as well as BBC) could understand that. Another interesting fact is that the value (yes, taking account of inflation) of metal goods and machine tools made in Britain is far higher now than in the “great days” of the past. What’s changed of course is very few people need be employed in the industry. But that’s down to technical and scientific changes.


        • 253
          MI6 says:

          She was a cun’t like every other Politician. Any one who thinks differently is a brain washed knacker. GO and Vote while they steal your democracy and your Pension. THICK Hunts


      • 189
        A Pensioner says:

        The only Government ever to cut public expenditure in real terms was Labour (Dennis Healey). When he went cap in hand to the IMF.


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      Lord of the Manor says:

      Oh please


    • 116
      Sungei Patani says:

      Hear, hear.


  2. 2
    Mr Slater's Parrot says:

    (tappitytappitytap) (flutter) SECOND!!! (preen)


  3. 3
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    So Guido not allowed to discuss Tom Watson and he alleged screwing around in Brighton, is it because it was with a fellow Mp?


    I posted this on last thread as have seen rumours that it might be true, and when Guido was slapped on wrist today i thought i might ask the question*.

    *I have not recived or am aware of any super-injuction on this matter


  4. 5
    Blue rinse, red lather says:

    Oh God, now the lefties will be frothing in their pants once more about “that woman” and claiming that if she had never lived then all workers would be happily paying union dues, trains would run on time, children and grannies would link arms in the street and dance to the sound of church bells…. etc.


  5. 6
    Gross says:

    I just did a little sick.


  6. 7
    smoggie says:

    Fucking hell, Meryl Streep for Prime Minister!


  7. 9
    Jimmy says:

    There’s nothing quite like a good horror film.


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      I Got Bored Of Having A Hundred Monikers.... says:

      The Gordon Brown movie isn’t being made sadly Jimmy due to budget troubles…..


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      pundit says:

      How about a feelgood film like Scotland goes independent with Liebore on the trash heap of history?


    • 56
      smiley says:

      When do you think we’re gonna see a film about the likes of Michael Foot and Jack Jones Jimmy? Both in the pay of the Soviet Union, should make a good thriller about spies and traitors.


      • 83
        Anonymous says:

        Or a movie about Robert Maxwell and his part in the rise of Gordon Brown.


        • 115
          The Paragnostic says:

          Didn’t know Cap’n Bob was McDoom’s Czech mate…

          Mind you, the fucking idiot had to get the pension looting idea from somewhere.


        • 162
          Bled White Taxpayer says:

          Really? A new one on me. Must do some Googling. Still, the curse of Jonah may explain that unexpected late night swimming accident Maxwell had (allegedly).


      • 146
        Handycock Russian Spy says:

        Nothing wrong with being in the pay of Russia. A well worn path trod by many MP’s.


  8. 10
    Trinny says:

    Meryl Street playing someone playing Meryl Streep again.


  9. 12
    When it's released? says:

    It doesn’t look like the hatchet job some feared. It actually looks like a very fair and sympathetic portrait.


  10. 14
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    If Maggie had a Bank holiday named after her, would the unions take the day off?


    • 17
      I Got Bored Of Having A Hundred Monikers.... says:

      Fucking hell Billy, that was a good one for you!


    • 42

      I’ve already said excellent once, but I have to repeat myself. You have got a good new scriptwriter at last…


    • 43

      I’ve already said excellent once, but I have to myself. You have got a good new scriptwriter at last…


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        The Paragnostic says:

        Aha – a post-mod-ern pun.

        Only appears twice after the mod has approved!


        • 193
          The Paragnostic says:

          Try the NoScript FF add-on. It stops sites running annoying Javascript that slows the system down. Bit of a pain when you go to a new site and have to enable scripts, but once set up it’s fine.


        • 199

          Thanks. I did try this before I made my ‘division of duties’ between browsers. FF did also create their container file for memory handling which falls over when FF falls over and you can then get all your pages and tabs back. But it still grew like topsy. I guess I should stick another 4GB of RAM in with what I am trying to do but eventually that will fall over too. The Add-ons are very bad at releasing memory it seems.


    • 65

      thumbs up and you are not even my spad


  11. 16
    Billy Bowden's Bum Boy says:

    Hard-on time!


  12. 19
    Gordon Brown says:

    But I’M the greatest PM ever! Make a film about MEEEEEE!


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      Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

      They did.


    • 135
      Day of the Dead says:

      Apocalypse Now,
      Friday the 13th,
      The Haunting,
      The Blair Witch Project,
      Dawn of the Dead,
      Nightmare on Elm Street,

      It’s Already been done, a compilation of all the above,
      Nightmare in Downing Street


  13. 20
    Anyway says:

    Winnie led us to victory in WW2.
    Maggie led us to victory in the Falklands and with the unions.
    So, where is the leader who can win the war against the unelected Brussels’s technocrats?
    It’s not Wavy Davie or Wet Eddie, so where are they?
    Probably still in Poland finishing their plumbing course.

    Ps. Didn’t our Dear Sponsor look well on Parliament TV today?
    Nothing to do with pies, chips and that Black liquid stuff of course.


    • 198
      Joe the Plumber says:

      That person is still in Prep school somewhere.


      • 243
        Lobster says:

        If they are in prep school they won’t be leading you out of the EU, the elite know what is good for them, and it’s just the rest of you who don’t. The plan to replace all heads of European governments with Bankers is well under way. Anyone not a Banker will just be their Bitch anyway. Get ready for more taxes, more cuts, more inflation, Britain can take it!


  14. 21
    I Got Bored Of Having A Hundred Monikers.... says:

    Fat old John Wittingdale needs to be put out to pasture.


  15. 22
    Jim Broadbent says:


    In Iris, I play a rather naive academic married to a headstrong domineering woman.

    In Iron Lady, I play a more worldly businessman married to a headstrong domineering woman.

    Just wanted to clear that up.


  16. 23
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:


    If there is one thing we all know now and is to your credit is this one fact: They fear you.


  17. 25
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    God bless Maggie, makes the useless C*U*N*T*S we’ve had ever since look like retards.

    Major, Bliar, BROWN and Scameron, gutless useless and fucking mongs.

    My only complaint about Maggie was she didn’t have the BBC blown up and sold off.


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      The Cabinet Secretary says:

      The BBC is one of those rarities that is worth more dead than alive. Clear out the rabble that run it and work in it and you’re left with an asset.


  18. 27
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    You just know tihs film is going to send the BBC and the Guardian fucking mental.

    Every 12 year old rent boy in London is going to have blood pouring from his arse as the leftie twats take out their anger the only way a leftie pervert knows how.



    • 48
      Wendy Bendy says:

      Daisy cutter, you certainly do have a way with words. I laughed so much I poured my drink over the bloody keyboard. I agree 99% – everything but Major. He was out of his depth, but a honourable man nevertheless.


  19. 36
    Paul Marks says:

    Denis would never have talked like that – and I do not just mean the actor has the wrong accent.

    He would never have have said to his wife that her standing (not “running” – but that is a side matter) for political office meant that she did not care if he and the children “went to Hell”.

    Denis was always supportive – if that is what his wife had her heart set on doing, he would support her (not sneer her).

    I do not think I will be going to see this film – not if this clip is anything to go by.

    The only drama that I have seen that does justice to the subject is “The Falklands Play” by Curtis.


  20. 37
    jgm2 says:

    BBC are mentioning The Mirror’s hacking…

    Top story UK front page too. Expect it will be onl ly there for 10 minutes so that they can claim it was mentioned ‘across the range of their output’.


  21. 45
    nell says:

    Iron Lady indeed. The only decent PM we’ve had since Winston Churchill.

    If only cameron ……………………

    Oh well if only…………….


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    I came over all teary eyed
    Even senile she could do a better job than fray bentos face ever will


  24. 61

    Of all the technology positions he could have taken, Buffett took IBM. Mystifying.


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  26. 71
    Engineer says:

    Must have been a fair few wardrobe and make-up challenges. Heseltine’s hair and Dennis Healey’s eyebrows for a start.

    Apparently, they asked Red Robbo to play himself, which he did. Unfortunately, he doesn’t actually appe@r in the final cut of the film because he was permanently on strike.


    • 75
      Engineer says:

      They wee also going to ask the NUM to provide authenic extras for the ’84 strike scenes, but they had to decline because there are only about twenty real miners left in the union.

      Arthur Scargill refused to take part unless they gave him a fourty-bedroom mansion in Beverley Hills, but that couldn’t happen because they filmed it in Ealing.


  27. 76
    Sally Bercow likes anal sex says:

    How many of you can claim to have shaken her hand once.

    Because I did! When when was at the height of her powers.


    • 79
      Laurie Penny says:

      I hope you haven’t ever washed that hand. I hope you aren’t going to ram it up inside me, deep inside, and rape me with that hand.



      • 143
        The Paragnostic says:

        I wish you’d stop taking the piss out of Laurie Penny, especially with the rape thing.

        She’s just the sort of humourless bitch to go whining about what nasty people we have commenting on this site.


    • 88
      nell says:

      My word ‘the height of sallybercow’s powers’

      Whgat unlit alley was that?


      • 101

        Nell this woman didnt even have the brains to charge for it

        Imagine the love between her and that dwarf whose name escapes me

        Her spread across the bed pretending to be interested,
        him looking into her face and seeing the faces of 1000 anonymous men, smelling their aftershave, stale sweat and tobacco as he climbs aboard red faced and aroused his gown flapping in the stench of the thames knowing that any man with an ounce of self respect would punch his wife to the ground rather than f oock er
        Bi goom


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    I Got Bored Of Having A Hundred Monikers.... says:



  29. 85

    Im releasing a new record
    Its called on Ilkley moor bar twat and about a professional Yorkshire man who starts a new Conservative party and buries David Fray Bentos face alive on Ilkley moor with is arse sticking in t air so local folk ave a place to park t moped


  30. 92
    Anon says:

    Lord Boateng’s son, Benjamin, jailed for sexual assault.

    Sorry? Excuse me? How and when did the useless Lefty cunt Paul Boateng become a “Lord”?


    • 100
      nell says:

      You need to look at the exploits of he and his wife in South Africa.

      Another load of bliar’s personal pals with dodgy behavioural, troughing patterns!

      Judge bliar by his friends!!


      • 237
        Lord Carrington's Binoculars says:

        Ah, yes the Boatengs in South Africa….

        THE wife of Britain’s first black high commissioner is under investigation for allegedly bullying domestic staff at the official residence in South Africa, it is reported today.

        Foreign Office ministers were reportedly alerted after complaints from black members of staff against Janet Boateng, whose husband Paul, the outspoken Left-wing lawyer, was given the South African posting by Tony Blair after he stood down at the 2005 election. Mr Boateng became Britain’s first black Cabinet minister in 2002 when he was made Chief Secretary to the Treasury.

        The Daily Telegraph reported that the dispute, said to involve verbal bullying, has become so bitter that a lawyer has become involved, threatening acute embarrassment for the government in post-apartheid South Africa.

        Mr Boateng, 57, lives with his wife Janet, a former Lambeth councillor, and their five children in the High Commissioner’s Cape Town nine-bedroom house, which has a four-acre garden. They also have an official eight-bedroom residence in Pretoria. There are 180 diplomatic and consular staff.

        The Foreign Office said: “While a grievance has been raised by some members of the residence staff, it has not been made against Mr Boateng. It is an internal personnel matter being investigated in South Africa at the appropriate level with assistance from our legal adviser on local labour law issues.”


    • 126
      Gonk says:

      The man with a voice like the cross between a public school janitor
      and a 1950s ventriloquist’s dummy.


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  31. 94
    nell says:

    Anybody know when this film’s due out?

    I’d love to buy the dvd for MrNell for Xmas.

    Maggie was the best thing since sliced bread as they say.


  32. 96
    Billy Bowden is the world's greatest umpire! says:

    So ends “Black Monday”

    FTSE 100 5519.04 – -26.34

    And I will be the first to say welcome to “Black Tuesday”

    When is that arse,David Cameron going to take the refund and fuck off.


    • 102
      nell says:

      Not sure you’re the real Bill.

      But the stock market is at 5519.04 hardly a crash is it?

      Remember what happened on 9/11 and even then it recovered. Methinks lsx overreacts to external stimulus and then readjusts over a day or two.

      Go get a coffee.


    • 103

      Or in your case take it up the a rse

      Black Tuesday?
      Thats the day you hook up with Mandingo from uganda isnt it?


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    Ow we do things in Leeds


  34. 120
    Infuriated of West Mids says:

    Jesus wept. Is this Stephen Lawrence thing still going on?


    • 124
      The Paragnostic says:

      Er – yes.

      Trouble is, it’s all been portrayed as police racism when it was really all about police corruption. Long enough ago now that the officers concerned are long gone, and the offspring of their underworld friends can be jailed.

      Still, it changed the police force for good, didn’t it? Imagine if they didn’t have to go on diversity training – the buggers would be out catching criminals and clogging up the jails in no time.


      • 144
        nell says:

        Possibly true P but if there is enough evidence to convict this 2 for murder then the Courts should get on and do it.

        This was a bright young man who would have made a great contribution to life society and these are two loser whom we could have done without.

        Best lock them up and throw away the key.


        • 196
          The Paragnostic says:

          Too right, nell, but I wish for his parent’s sake and for the sake of the rest of us that they’d arrested the little tykes back then, rather than cocking the investigation up because on of their fathers was a copper’s nark.


    • 153
      nell says:

      Jesus Wept that we should have lost such a talented, valuable young man who would have been a huge credit to Society to such braindead soulless worthless pieces of horse dung!


      • 165
        Infuriated of West Mids says:

        I think you’ve misunderstood my tone, Nell. It’s just the whole “Stephen Lawrence” thing is something that I remember from my second year of secondary school, which, to someone of my meagre years, is a lifetime ago.


        • 171
          nell says:

          Sorry Infuriated . But actually I like what’s happened because it shows that the law hangs in there and doesn;t let go until it gets a conviction. This lot thought they could fool the law and yet they are still there in court failing to prove the point that they should be free.

          And you only have to look at them and their history to know that they are worthless and will always be worthless and have done nothing for themselves, their families or society.

          Such people are dross.

          The medievals had the right idea. You put such people in a room in the Tower, bricked it up and left them to die slowly!


          • albacore says:

            Judge, jury and executioner now, eh, Nell?


          • Infuriated of West Mids says:

            Agreed completely, Nell (save for the presumption of guilt before trial)

            But I’m wary that if it hadn’t been the high-profile”Stephen Lawrence” case, vital to allaying accusations of police institutional racism, it would have been shoved to the back of the filing cabinet a long time ago.


          • albacore says:

            If you’re that much a connoisseur of horse dung, may I suggest that you savour the Macpherson Report.
            What it’s full of ain’t sweet violets.


      • 167
        Infuriated of West Mids says:

        I would also be inclined to agree with Paragnostic that the fallout from the sad incident had an adverse effect on our police force, sorry, service.

        (And, the “pieces of horse dung” haven’t yet been convicted).


        • 176
          nell says:

          Maybe not bit they are still, unsuccessfully, fighting to be free.

          And each time they ap[[ear in the press they show themselves for the vioent evil uneducated s


        • 200
          albacore says:

          So, what is institutional racism?
          ‘The collective failure of an organisation to provide an appropriate and professional service to people because of their colour, culture or ethnic origin. It can be seen or detected in processes, attitudes and behaviour which amount to discrimination through unwitting prejudice, ignorance, thoughtlessness and racial stereotyping.’
          Note that awkward little key word “unwitting”.
          What Macpherson defined was not even a thought crime.
          Not even heresy.
          So they let loose the legions of witchfinders-general to detect it.


          • The Paragnostic says:

            What MacPherson defined was what he was told to define. The whole case was used by the race-relations industry to entrench themselves within the police forces, and if I was related to Stephen Lawrence then I’d have been mightily pissed off at seeing his death used to enrich the race lobby.

            Fact is, the investigation was cocked up because of the links between the investigating officers and the father of one of the culprits – whether he was a nark or they were corrupt or both has never been quite clear.

            By MacPherson, the Met managed to cover up the corruption and gain brownie points from New Labour for its new, caring, diverse approach (which leads to 5’0″ WPCs being on the front line, and the subsequent need for pepper spray / tasers etc.). It was complete bollocks, much like every other inquiry set up under Labour.


          • Anonymous says:

            McPherson “defined” a racist incident as
            “any incident which someone perceives as racist”

            FFS what utter bollox is that, thats defining the square root of fuck all.
            This non definition has led to any incident of any description what so fucking ever as being racist just because someone says it is.

            The shipping forcast is therefore racist because I say it is !!!!

            That piece of toast is Racist because I perceive it to be.



          • albacore says:

            It stinks. The MailOnLine today reported:
            “Although Dobson and Norris were arrested in September last year, the news could not be reported until May for legal reasons.”
            Care to guess what else is strictly verboten in front of us kids?


  35. 122
    annette curton says:

    I’m a bit disappointed already going by the trailer, given it’s Fox organisation I would have expected them to have George Clooney playing the part of Dennis.


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    • 128
      Tony Blair says:

      And I voted for Gordon.


      • 132
        stun says:

        Along with a few others. Last seen at 39.4%, followed a tad behind by CallMeDave at 14.2% and Maggie (PBUH) at 13.9%. Blair on a mere 11.3%, then traitor Ted at 6.5%.


        • 163

          Most of the voters will not have been able to study history or be old enough to remember many of these. MacDonald, Wilson, Heath and Callaghan should all have higher positions, whilst Thatcher being above Blair is clearly wrong especially as the latter presided over the circumstances that helped to bring the recession about. He left office hours before it all blew up and cannot be thereby absolved. After Thatcher’s departure, we had the longest growth period in our lives, due to the collapse of the USSR which she was instrumental in facilitating.


          • The Paragnostic says:

            Never forget Lloyd George, who made Blair’s and Wilson’s efforts at influence peddling look like a stall at a school fete.


          • Agree, but I have been unable to evaluate his mismanagement in terms that compares, say, with Wilson’s devaluation (then a national scandal but, compared with McRuin, really rather tame.)


          • Really? says:

            Twelve hours on from the previous update, Brown is on 40% with three riders in a virtual dead heat for second place (and yet their total score does not match his).

            I’d like to see how this compares to a similar quiz set by BBC 5 Lies.


  37. 125
    Looks a good movie says:

    Everyone thought this would be some rabid leftie attack but judging by the trailer it looks a very fair film. The director told the Telegraph:

    “I think that when [Thatcher’s children] see Meryl’s performance they will understand how much care and attention to Lady Thatcher’s dignity she’s given it. I think Margaret Thatcher was a superstar in this country and I think we all felt we needed a superstar to play her, somebody of huge intelligence, passion and power and warmth.”


  38. 131
    Routemaster Bus says:

    Is it true that in this film the US Navy Seals capture the Falklands on out behalf?


  39. 137
    Doth protest too fucking much says:

    All the vile homophobic comments here don’t surprise me. It’s long been known that those who shout the loudest have the most to hide. They scream about how disgusting they find gays, while telling their wives they’re off to the private members club, which in a way is true as they’re secretly paying male escorts to bum them in private with their members.

    And before some of you start shrieking at me and calling me a leftie bbc queer, I’m neither leftie, pro-bbc or gay. It’s perfectly possible to be conservative and not have a rabid hatred of others, something which some of you are incapable of.


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    Lest any of find ourselves questioned as our host was today, may I propose the following.

    A very tricky argument arises from the lawyer MP who asked, “Do you uphold the rule of law – or not?”

    It does pay to point out that, in your opinion, this constitutes a leading question because it contains presuppositions (e.g. Have you stopped beating your wife.)

    If you blindly support the rule of law at all times, then you will support slavery (within the law in the past); the clearances (ditto); the non-emancipation of both women and non-property owners; discrimination of a racial, religious and sexual orientation type (ditto) and a host of other unimaginable situations in today’s climate.

    In Russia you would have had to support the Bolsheviks and, in Germany, the Nazis.

    So the answer to this question can only be put in a certain circumstances or contingent mode. This in turn raises the charge against you that you are seeking subjective justice. To which you can only retort that in that case and with changed circumstances, the questioner would have supported the Nazis. Let us at least have moral equivalence here.

    It is a deadlock but one which most of us will find ourselves in during our lifetimes. But it is so easy to be pushed into a situation where you to be on the wrong side of the argument.


    • 170
      Infuriated of West Mids says:



    • 172
      Colonel Blimp says:

      Could you please keep your posts short and succinct. Long winded meandering posts which ramble on a bit peppered with politico jargon ruin the ebb and flow of the comments section and impair the readers experience. Thank you for your consideration in future posts.


    • 173
      Infuriated of West Mids says:

      I think in Guido’s position today, I’d have countered with the fact that I’d been expressly invited there by the Cttee itself for the purpose of debating the law as it currently stands. If the questioner didn’t think that the law could be improved, and was perfect as it stood, then he should say so now.

      “Do *you* think the law is unimprovable and perfect as it stands?”


    • 178
      annette curton says:

      I fear you are flogging a dead horse Mr Cat, when the worst criminality app*ars to be app*ars then that which is dead may forever lie, but with stranger on’s (Strange Eons) )))even death may die.


    • 182
      carry on up william hague says:

      Fuck me Mr Cat (not literaly)
      What you are suppositiying is anarchy, where an individual is t’ law
      No bad thing, God gave us 10 commendmants
      Dont fuk with me an ill nor fuk with yoooo as we say in Barnsley an Arrogate


      • 188

        Ayup lad. I did run three companies in Wath-upon-Dearne and Rotherham for several years. They called me the “blooody sootherner” but we made a good profit and had a great time.

        I am not supporting anarchy. There comes a limit to what the law can reasonably expect of its citizens though. It is difficult to expand on this without becoming technical and wordy though.


    • 195
      ding dong dell, mp's thrown down the well. says:

      It seems these MP tossers only think the rule of law only applies to us plebs and it’s within the rules only apply to them in palace of Westminster, so how do these tossers tell the difference between the rules of law and “it’s within the rules” and why does “it’s within the rules” overide the rule of law.


    • 205
      The Paragnostic says:

      I take the view that I do not allow the law to dictate what I choose to do of my own free will.

      That said, if I happen to contravene a law, then I will freely admit to it and explain why it was that I acted contrary to it.

      It’s then up to those who administer ‘justice’ to decide whether my explanation mitigates or exacerbates the original offence.

      It’s pointless to expect anyone to accept all law as valid, since there are far more laws than any one person could ever hope to absorb.


      • 208

        Ignorantia juris non excusat.

        But with what they have done, it is hardly a sustainable position any more.


        • 215
          The Paragnostic says:

          I would never claim ignorance as a defence – but I would state why I did what I did, and if the State wishes to punish me, then it must do as it sees fit.

          I view all laws as contingent, meaning that I shall break all those I disagree with as long as I am at liberty to do so – to stop me would require the State to imprison me. If they insist on doing so then they have force on their side, so it’s tough on me.


          • The discussions in Portcullis House today did highlight the fact that bloggers, and self-publishers (which could include any of us) may be in breach of judge-made law without having the means of knowing what it was. That is plain nonsense on stilts.

            But in a situation where one does know the law (and believe that law to be wrong at such a fundamental level that your conscience will not allow you to adhere to it), then the quandary that I originally set out becomes very real. One needs a philosophical basis on which to justify your position unless (as Mr carry on etc. states above) you advocate anarchy. I am trying to establish an in-between position that can be sustained in court (I do not want to call it The Third Way for obvious reasons.)


          • The Paragnostic says:

            Ah – now you’re touching on ethics. Not my strong point, I’m afraid – I try to derive my own without recourse to sky fairies or teapots, but tend to end up with only a very minimal set, utilitarian and bleak in the extreme.

            Perhaps we need a new TV show – The Only Way Is Ethics?


          • ding dong dell, mp's thrown down the well. says:

            When MP’s agree that the man made law is above “it’s within in the rules” then I will agree we should live within the man made laws, if the lawmakers are using “it’s within the rules” then these lawmakers are lawbreakers and have no rights to make man made laws for others to live under, we all live within the laws or we all live within “it’s in the rules” or do we keep what we have now, don’t do as I do, do as I tell you.


          • No sky fairies, no teapots, no Noodly Appendages.

            To have any appreciation of so many of those subjects that troubled Plato and Aristotle, or the love we feel for those with us or departed, I have come to the conclusion that metaphysics needs serious consideration, indeed it may be the only worthwhile business of Philosophy now that Physics is approaching the state of being to explain everything else (see David Deutch – but with reservations.) I am in good company as Christopher Hitchen, known atheist (and much less leftie than before), talks quite freely about it. That, also, before he became aware of his terminal illness.

            R.G. Collingwood’s Speculum Mentis, An Essay on Metaphysics and New Leviathan are a good way to approach the subject. If short of time, then Metaphysics, Method and Politics by James Connelly is an excellent book which demonstrates the consistency of Collingwood’s approach as one of its main aims.


          • The Paragnostic says:

            Thanks, Cat – I’ve not tried reading any serious philosophy since uni, so it may take me time to digest, but I shall look them up.


  41. 151
    Willie says:

    Who is playing me then!!!


  42. 160
    Realist says:

    Anybody who annoyed the commie socialists and the Tory wets that much must have been doing something right. I wish we had her back now with Farage as her main advisor.


  43. 164
    Well all right! says:

    Who plays Boyo in this?


  44. 180
    nell says:

    Maybe not but they are still, unsuccessfully, fighting to be free.

    And each time they ap[[ear in the press they show themselves for the violent evil uneducated bird squits that they are.

    How could anybody think these evil men, equal to breivik in norway, are worthwhile human beings.

    It is these people that we need a death penalty for.


  45. 201
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Fuck off BBC

    Fuck off Blair

    Fuck off Mandelson

    Fuck off Campbell

    Fuck off Radio 5

    God bless Maggie.


  46. 202
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    I see this getting a few Oscars , but i don’t see it breaking any box office records in Britain but in the US with the Regan connection they will love it !


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    A Fit Up says:

    Guido. When Wittingdale allowed Watson to get away will calling Murdoch a mafiosa leader you should have realised that the game was up and you would never ever get a fair hearing from one of his committies.


  49. 230
    Thick Twat watch says:

    Theresa May is toast.

    Bye bye .


    • 233
      Bin laden (the ghost of) says:

      A no brainer Theresa. Hire a private jet and you are not interested who or what is on board. Hire a fleet of private jets and 911 will look like a walk in the park.

      Thank you Mrs May.


  50. 231
    The Paragnostic says:

    Here’s one for those who think I’m a bigot –

    Whiny Jock twat.


  51. 236
    not a machine says:

    Gutted ! Hit the wrong key and my post has dissapered into the ether , sob sob , I know how Davinci felt when he spilt coffee on his fresco

    To recap Daves speech was erm wow (as notable as checz speech)

    Eurozone total waste of time .

    News Night was special archive edition , to see that spurious mandelson have to answer the proper questions “fix the flaws in the eurozone” I wonder if he knew what he was talking about …

    Dame Fiona Reynolds , knocked Dave off of broadsheet top spot but her quoting of Freidaberg was somthing I think most of us have been screeming for some time , considering we could do freidaberg 2 without much trouble , Osbournes approach to the matter is worrying . I would point out that some housing stock will manage with better insulation , but eventually we should be thinking of where we need to go , and to properly plan for it to be enabled , whilst not letting any more green fields being lost , it is obvious that the calculation on agricultural needs has not been done properly , let alone the loss of other aspects . George and dave will not be the ones who are bitter when there countryside is lost , they can afford and untroubled rural view and nature does not get a vote on its loss .


  52. 238
    not a machine says:

    I think a prize should be offered , for anyone who can do a spermario version of the eurozone problem

    my game story board would be as follows :
    Map of europe 1972
    mario buys a merc and tours europe , gains points as he goes to each country
    Has to return to brussels on each new treaty (gets car refurbed/blinged)
    Bounus zone when communism falls
    Goes to ECB when that forms and gets malevolent credit card , everytime he lends cash out to other countries , evil monster starts getting bigger/fatter in brussels.
    Carrys on with magic delusional credit card until 2008 then notices monster has trashed ecomies of Ireland and Portugal , makes fatal error stops off in Buga Bunga Land , greece dives , uses special technocrat goverment replacement weapon only for Game over to start flashing and monster sitting on his face until he says “its a no problem” .


  53. 240
    Spartacus says:

    I hope they edit out the following from the script:
    – zipperdy do-dah uncle remus
    – god-dam sunnerver bitch
    – yee-har
    and any mention of
    – touchdowns
    – plates
    – rookies


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