November 9th, 2011

Osborne Swings His Thatcherite Handbag

A succinct dismissal by Osborne of a tax that won’t work and would damage British interests. No more ambiguity


125 Comments

  1. 1
    Anonymous says:

    Why are such important matters left to such an ineffectual individual?

    • 3
      Oy Vey May says:

      Liar!

      • 14
        Anonymous says:

        A bit early in the morning, I will grant you, but it was a question, not a statement…

        • 30
          Jim says:

          A stupid question then?

          • Rage Against the Political Elite says:

            VAT UP 3% ENERGY TAX UP 13%. GET IT UP and hoover more cash out of the economy. Its going to be a poor Christmass. Unless you want to get into a bit of debt. There is a SHIT storm coming and the knackers who broke the economy are making it worse.
            OSBOON is just another Puppet having strings pulled by the idiots who got us into this problem and are making it WORSE.

          • Rage Against the Political Elite says:

            They are having trouble stealing any more out of the economy as people are shitting themselves. Every one is sick of paying TAX to help these scum bags fraud their way to a Multi Millionaire lifestyle. Bliar, Mandlebum, Kinnock, We pay TAX and dont even have a democracy. Ask Cameroon. or Broon., or Osboon. Wankers.

          • Anonymous says:

            Give some time for the U turn, this is the man who wants to give £40bn to IMF. Might be a different story when it comes to bankers as the give a lot of money to conservative party.

        • 40
          sockpuppet #4 says:

          You really want to know? OK then – if he wasn’t like that he’d have got himself a real job.

          (Thats a joke, but I suspect its actually a real factor)

          • Ed the Axeman says:

            There is a simple response.

            Yes you can have a transaction tax. It’s one Euro on each time someone withdraws Euros from an ATM.

            1. No need for FX, since its only Euro transactions.
            2. Raises a lot of money.
            3. Goes direct to the EU
            4. Doesn’t apply to the UK
            5. Very clear that people are being taxes. (Unlike the Tobin tax on other things)

          • I Remember You Hoo says:

            Ah, the EUro……

      • 21
        Bloke of a certain age says:

        There once was a Berlu called sconi
        Who used to be mates with our Tony
        He said he’d resign
        No firm date in mind
        I suspect this announcement is phony

    • 7
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      Why do such important matters attract the comments of such an ineffectual individual of the Left?

      • 11
        Lord Wayne of Trombone says:

        Brodie Clark, the senior civil servant at the heart of the scandal over relaxed passport checks, has made a direct attack on Theresa May, accusing the Home Secretary of misleading the public.

        TAXI FOR A MS MAY…. TAXI FOR A MS MAY

        Your time is up, love. Fu9k off nicely

        • 16
          Taxfodder says:

          And….a nice little hush money payout for Mr Brodie and/or if that won’t shut him up, a walk in the woods to cut his wrists with a pen knife!

        • 17
          Well it's a thought says:

          Oh dear, she’s upset the uncivil service, shame, they need to get rid of a load more of these top hangers on, yes, politicians and these overpaid prima madonnas need to go the money saved can be used to arselick in the EU.

          • Soothsayer says:

            Clark was in consultation with his union. Perhaps they suggested a strategy to help him and the Labor Party? If so Clark is in trouble if he agrees to it. He should be trying to avoid gaol.

        • 20
          Chair Polishers Association says:

          The ‘First Division’ Association (surely that should be the Diadora League?) are keen to emphasise how much Brodie is suffering as a result of all this publicity. Well, if he can’t take a little bit of heat, he’s clearly unfit for such a high profile posiition. No doubt he will be handing back his 6-figure salary and pension.

          What’s that I hear? No, he won’t?!

          • Wealth creator says:

            The first Division? What a shower of arrogant self important pen pushing, desk jockey wankers

          • Call me Infidel says:

            Don’t forget his boss was the ex Labour councillor Lin Homer. Jobs for the boys and girls courtesy of the sewer party. Oh and this “relaxed controls” is nothng new. Contrary to what that ugly chimp Yvette Bollocks claims. It happened every summer in Dover and latterly Calais.

          • misterned says:

            I remember working in the EU in 1999. I was part of a team of techies doing computer audits. On our team was a Bangladeshi national working here on a temporary Visa. He had a Bangladeshi passport.

            As we drove out through the Chunnel, and when we came back, he was driving the car and despite him shouting at the border agency staff that he was not an EU national, they waived us through without any checks whatsoever. They did not even want to see his passport. So this sort of thing has been happening under labour for years.

          • sockpuppet #4 says:

            “as we drove out of the tunnel” – they check before you go into the tunnel, not out.

        • 22
          Tessa Tickles says:

          To paraphrase Josh Shores in today’s Times commenting on Olympus Imaging’s CEO,

          “Ignorance is no defence. If Theresa May was there and not aware of it, she was incompetent. If she was there and aware of it without asking tough questions, she was negligent. Either way, she needs to leave.”

          • Our Denry says:

            TT, Theresa May has Dodgy Dave’s full backing, oh dear!

          • I Remember You Hoo says:

            That’s a bit harsh on May.
            She can’t help it if she is a bit of a thicko and all round dunce unable to understand her brief. No, the person to blame, is the person who appointed her in the first place. Step forward Dismal Dave.

          • misterned says:

            Whilst I agree that she should go for failing to get immigration down, she did inherit a home office which was still not fit for purpose and filled with over-promoted senior staff who had been filtered through labour’s politically correctness filter. She inherited an organisation filled with senior staff who are politically opposed to everything that she would have wanted to do.

            What she should have been doing from day one is root out and replace those who were likely to cause trouble.

          • sockpuppet #4 says:

            Mrned: there seems to be some dispute about what she told the senior staff what to do.

          • Well it's a thought says:

            She seems to have missed the part that states , keep your friends close and your enemies closer, she did that but she thought they were all friends and now she’s paying the price, hopefully she will go, but like all politician’s will she.

          • misterned says:

            Yes and a cursory examination of the political leanings of that senior staff means that they have had reason to fabricate evidence to “make the tories look bad”. Remember it was Blair who set about to politicise the civil service, for precisely this reason.

          • sockpuppet #4 says:

            The bloke has been sacked, and he rekons he’s not guilty of whats been suggested. So he’s having a go at the bullshitter general who got him sacked.

        • 60
          Stephen Byers says:

          Taxi for hire ?????

        • 106
          Archie Bishop-Williams says:

          Yet another “public” servant reveals his true colours! Sword-falling is sooo much less painful with a gold-plated; index-linked pension to ease the pain. Hate the saying nut its appropriate: “Man up Clark!”

      • 12
        Anonymous says:

        I am probably older and grumpier than you – the problem with Osborne is his ineffectuality, not his message to the European menace. Back in your box young fellow.

    • 10
      Up sh1t creek says:

      Who’s going to defend the UK in the doomed European “Fiscal union”? Certainly not the coalition.

    • 32
      Gordon F Brown says:

      Just consider the alternative and look where the useless bastard left me!

      • 112
        Judge Jeffries says:

        Gordon, you need a personal doctor. There’s an efficient bloke now looking for a job in LA. Top recommendation.

    • 109
      Our Denry says:

      A handbag, a handbag, a man with a handbag!

  2. 2
    Lou Scannon says:

    What arsehole dreamt up the idea of calling a Tobin tax a ‘Robin Hood’ tax ? It must have been a left-wing nutter since it’s the exact opposite of the truth.

    • 27
      COMRADE BOB CROW (ANNUAL SALARY £254,978) says:

      PEEPUL WITH PRYVUT PENSHUNS R RITCH WANKURS.

      • 93
        Smig says:

        How are you getting on in that big subsidised home Comrade Bob? Have the council been around to service your gas boiler?

        I wouldn’t want you taking a turn for the worse with all that nasty Carbon Monoxide.

        However, I would laugh my bollocks off if you got hit by a train.

      • 125
        Handycock No1 Trougher in Parliament says:

        Well said Comrade Bob, they are all Tory Wankers getting rich at our expense. Boaz.

    • 66
      Arthur Bent says:

      Let’s call it the Robbing Poor tax because that’s what it will do.

  3. 4
    Grammar School Boy says:

    What we actually need is a Conservative government!

    • 15
      David Camewrong says:

      Buwahahahahahaha !

    • 19
      Canary Wharf Rat says:

      What we need is a dawning that the current crop of European politicians are either so mired in their own corruption they are resigning before the real truths emerge(Greece & Italy) or are trying to hide the true depth of their countries situation by banging a very loud drum and in doing so taking the rest of the edifice down with it to avoid culpability (France). What is pretty clear is that the EU politicos will do anything to save their collective skins and their misguided projects that just do not work in the real World and if that includes impoverishing their respective electorates, then that for them is an acceptable consequence, and that my friends it what we are experiencing in this slow motion car crash.

      • 111
        Major in absentia says:

        Anyone asked Jacques Delors what the solution is? The single european currency was his “big” idea so he ought to know.

    • 103

      That would be too radical!

  4. 5
    Issy Troughing MP says:

    He may have the handbag but I suspect he doesn’t have the contents.

    • 23
      Spartacus says:

      A succinct dismissal – so its a cast iron promise then?

      • 104
        Our Denry says:

        That’s no good cast iron cracks when given a good wallop, better off with malleable cast iron but hit hard enough that will crack

  5. 6
    Sarkozy the Truthseeker says:

    Come on fagboy, address the hot issue of May’s lying. Is it cos she is Chosen?

    • 49
      Anonymous says:

      As if the ‘I’m not making this up…’ speach wasn’t bad enough, now this.
      Too much of a liability: she will get PS’s ‘full support’ until either the next re-shuffle or she resigns.

  6. 8
    Up sh1t creek says:

    Just pay your increased taxes to bail out Johnny foreigner and shut up!

  7. 9
    Anonymous says:

    And whilst Yeates is within our purview, is anyone having a look at how thorough Assistant Commissioner Yates’s investigation of cash for honours was – it appears he did miss a few thousand offences when he investigated phone hacking…

  8. 13
    Well it's a thought says:

    Well at least he said something I can agree on , these loons who seem to think the robin git tax is great , all of us who have bank accounts will pay, it doesn’t matter who owns the banks they are a business and they will pass it on.

  9. 24
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    Get your piggy bank out George !
    The dirty scruffy student bastards
    are about top smash fuck out of London YET again !

    • 29
      Tessa Tickles says:

      I’m waiting for Milimong’s deformed face to pop up and spout some shite about how he supports the protesters.. about 5 minutes before they start smashing shop windows, assaulting shopworkers and defacing the odd war memorial or two.

      Come on, Milimong! Don’t let me down.

    • 36
      Well it's a thought says:

      Strange I don’t remember the students trashing London or anywhere in the good old Liebour days, one would think this was a lefty conspired march.

      • 48
        misterned says:

        Me neither, even when labour introduced the fees (in direct opposition to what they had explicitly promised in their manifesto) and then doubled them. The lefty students did not mind at all.

        Then when the coalition made the repayments much more affordable, the lefty students kick off?

        Christ on a bike, I wish my Mortgage was on the same terms as the new student fees loans.

        • 54
          Bloke of a certain age says:

          Exactly and remember Labours official policy is to retain the fees only reducing the maximum payable from 9 to around 6 grand a year. So under Labour the system is the same.

        • 75
          Ctesibius says:

          Why does the Liebour Party have all these ‘direct action’ stormtroopers like UK Uncut, the NUS, the ‘Occupiers’, etc., yet other British Political parties manage without even the capacity to threaten violence to the general public?

          • I Remember You Hoo says:

            Look back through history, the left goon squads are always mobilised onto the streets when they are out of power. It’s what the left do, forment rage against something they would do anyway if in power, or against groups within society they decide are ‘legitimate’ targets.

    • 47
      Sgt Baker says:

      Load up, load up, load up with rubber bullets

  10. 31
    Gordon F Brown says:

    The people at the bottom of the pile always pay.

    I knew that when I was the Chancellor.

    I knew that when I was the Prime Minister.

    I really know it now that I am at the bottom of the pile.

    I also know and things aren’t going to get much better anytime soon. I know this because Ed Balls used to be my principle advisor on economic matters and it’s obvious now that he knows fuck all about anything…

    • 95
      I Remember You Hoo says:

      Bottom of the pile McRuin?

      I think you will find we are funding your lifestyle to the tune of several hundred thousand pounds every year. What’s more, you don’t even bother to turn up for work anymore.

      • 108
        Our Denry says:

        There a village deep in the valley,
        Where a lonely bell was ringing,
        For good old Jimmy Brown,

        • 118
          Some Geezer wot remembers that old song says:

          And the little congregation/Prayed for guidance from above:
          “Lead us not into temptation/for a quick assassination;
          may our hearts be filled with love.”

  11. 33
    Tessa Tickles says:

    I wouldn’t say “Thatcherite”, Guido. Osborne started his presentation by saying how proud he was that he and Cameron are pissing-away money we don’t have, on foreign aid (he didn’t mention it’s to countries with nuclear weaponry and space programmes, but he didn’t have to; we know it).

    Thatcher, for all her faults, wouldn’t have wasted our borrowed money like that. She certainly wouldn’t have boasted about it, as if it was in some way clever.

    • 37
      sockpuppet #4 says:

      “all her faults” … dangerous territory.

    • 38
      Bloke of a certain age says:

      Its precicely because they have nuclear weapons that we are paying them protection money. We have to bribe them to stop them going over completely to the Taliban, cause if they get their hands on those toys!

    • 44
      Well it's a thought says:

      Anyone who can mention aid and green in the same answer is not using his own money and he doesn’t give a toss about anybody else’s, when he pisses his own money on these things then he can come and ask us the taxpayer, my answer will be NO, now sort out this countries problems that’s what you paid for.

  12. 43
    Stringer Bill says:

    He’s right. And he knows it, just look at the smirk on his face.

    These Euro politicians are cooking up new taxes whilst their currency is vanishing down the pan. They need to sort the monetary mess they created instead of debating new taxes.

    • 76
      I Remember You Hoo says:

      The average EUro politician is either a socialist, former socialist, communist or former communist.
      Why even Frau Merkel is a former loyal communist and member of the Communist Jugend in her youth.
      As the last thirteen years has shown us here, sorting out financial cluster fucks is not their collective forte.
      Creating them on the other hand…….

  13. 45
    BBC Governor says:

    Can I assure Frankie Coccoza that a golden career awaits him at the BBC as he would fit in perfectly with us. Its not called White City for nothing you know.

  14. 52
    Raving Loon says:

    Funny how politicians always suggest that taxes and increases in government power are the solutions to our problems.

    • 61
      Well it's a thought says:

      The problem is, it’s the loons who agree with them.

    • 65

      They behave as if they are strong when spending money and weak when saving it. They also act as if more regulation is necessarily strong whilst relaxing regulation is necessarily weak.

      A larger part of the population is coming to the belief that the opposite of these statements is nearer the truth.

      This is one of the reasons why Margaret Thatcher became popular and is why the current coalition is seen to be weak.

      • 78
        Lessons from History says:

        The BBC documentary on Hong Kong explained brilliantly how to generate growth, reduce all red tape, reduce all govt cost, reduce all Taxes to the absolute minimum, HK went from small community in 40′s to a vibrant financial power house of today.

  15. 53
    pp says:

    Stating the obvious is not *that* clever.

    And then who goes wrong by pretending that it isn’t the customer who ultimately pays *all* taxes.

    And everyone knows – POLITICIANS AREN’T BASTARDS THROUGH IGNORANCE, THEY ARE NATURALLY BASTARDS, THEY PRETEND TO BE IGNORANT TO EVADE RESPONSIBILITY.

    Osborne didn’t tell anyone anything the didn’t already know – and when it is convenient he will immediately pretend to forget it all and do what ever bastard thing he wants.

    • 120
      Really? says:

      Their responses to him would be interesting to watch – does anyone have a link to where this extract was taken from?

      Incidentally, it is uncommon for a politician to be caught speaking this frankly in an international context – most of the time it happens in ‘closed session’ in order to protect the voting public from their unvarnished opinions (and disagreements). Truly, politics being considered as unappetising to the consumer as sausagemaking.

  16. 58
    Bill Nighy says:

    This is going to finish off my flagging career!

    • 72

      I propose a Nighy tax where luvvies who propose daft transaction taxes get levied 100% tax on their own earnings and capital.

      It could be introduced as the Nighy Bill.

      • 87
        Sir Aston Martin says:

        Why stop at 100%? Just confiscate all their property and assets and put them down the salt mines. Harsh but fair.

        • 105
          I Remember You Hoo says:

          Bill Nighy should be put down the salt mines for the acting ‘skills’ that he inflicts on every role he is given. While you are at it, get Hugh Grant to join him, on the same charge.

  17. 68
  18. 77
    Steve Miliband says:

    Year 2008/2009; How many visitors let in unchecked? Bet labour can’t tell us, so shut the fuck up Yvette, I’ve had enough of your bleating.

    • 88
      Sir Aston Martin says:

      That’s what Ed says when he’s got his wellies on.

    • 89
      Blinky says:

      Her bleating gives me the horn.

    • 94
      The "It wasn't me" defence says:

      This Opposition Debate smacks of rank hypocrisy and opportunism to me…..who opened Britain’s borders for political purposes ? Who actually allowed unfettered access to the new Accession Countries in the East when we could have had a decade of easing in like pther EU countries ? Who stifled(with their allies in the BBC and Guardian)any reasonable debate about the influx of people into the Uk with its overstretched infrastructure ? Labour.

      Tereas May probably does have questions to answer(as does Damian Green as Immigration Minister)but I’ltake no fucking lectures from the hypocrits within the Labour Party who are responsible for a lot of the present mess on immigration…

    • 100
      Selohesra says:

      The tiny ladyboy Cooper
      Thought she was simply quite super
      To no-ones surprise
      We saw through her lies
      And used her mouth as a dogs pooper scooper

    • 101
      I don't need no doctor says:

      Cooper is a union puppet, insincere and spiteful. This is labour 2011 and for the future.
      Labour is controlled by the unions. The unions agenda is to get labour back in power and increase the public sector at the expense of the private sector.
      Let’s hope labour never ever get back into power.

  19. 82
    Stepney says:

    OOOH Gideon! Get her!

  20. 84
    Bobg says:

    But it’s coming. And you know it Guido. That’s why you’re foaming. Those yellow bastards will deliver it for the country.

  21. 85
    Denzil says:

    Check it, blud. Get your orders in for da stoodant protezt 2day, yer get me? First com, first served, blud. Limited numba ov orders for treeD haychD plazma TVs. Me and my mates can’t carry out loadz and loadz of tellys, yer get me? And you get what we gives you. I can’t garantee you’ll get a Panasony or a Samsing. If you get an LG or Alba, tuff shit, blud. You’s gettin it for free, so no complayntz. Brrrrap!

    • 98
      I don't need no doctor says:

      I iz goin to da job centa ta see if they haz got any jobs in Luton, I meanz looting, in it, no what I meanz.

  22. 86
    I don't need no doctor says:

    The spiteful, insincere Yvette Cooper is currently speaking utter crap at this very moment on BBC News 24.
    Cooper is nothing but a union puppet.
    Cooper also has the labour disease of selective memory pre last election.

  23. 91
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Comment 9:36 under moderation. Again I have used no swear words or racist comments. Why don’t I learn that including these gets me past moderation.
    There is definitely something wrong, but Guido does nothing.

    • 96
      say what you see says:

      He can’t handle the truth!

      • 99
        I don't need no doctor says:

        What is the truth? Is it out there?

        • 119
          DCI Brian Lane, ret. says:

          The former quote should be “What is truth?”–Pontius Pilate. the latter is from Fox Mulder and should be an affirmative statement: “The truth is out there.” I know I’m an annoying know-it-all.

  24. 115
    Kered Ybretsae says:

    That was super George. Was that really a politician talking sense? Wow! A real Thatcher ‘NO’ hope he sticks to his words, no ‘U-turns’ or reversals. Sadly such a ‘NO’ is not in the Frau Merkel political dictionary. She is a rusty iron lady!

    • 124
      Issy Troughing MP says:

      When Merkel says ‘Nein’, she refers to the number of billions she wants from the UK for the next payment.

  25. 121
    Ho ho ho garth says:

    Gideon swings his Thatcher-Lite Manbag…?

  26. 122
    Jeffrey Bernard says:

    “George shows his Balls”?


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