November 3rd, 2011

Labour MPs’ Pilgrim Fightback
Called Union-Busting Tory MP “Prick” and “Twat”

It’s taken Labour a week to come up with a semi-coherent defence of taxpayer funding for trade unions. John Healey has taken to LabourList, on behalf of their paymasters, to defend the practice. The gist of his argument is that union reps do good things therefore it is a good thing. It completely fails to take into account that regardless of what good they do, why should we pay for it rather than the unions: representation of the workers is the key reason people pay to join unions, and their union subscription fees should be used to cover it. Any work time spent on union activity should be invoiced back the union. Anything else is back door corruption and a multi-million pound political subsidy from the taxpayer to the Labour Party.

But at least some in Labour Party seem to be trying to engage properly, which is more than can be said of the union heavies on Labour benches. When Aidan Burley’s adjournment debate speech rattled them last Wednesday, instead of constructive arguement, the Tory backbencher was shouted down, heckled and jeered by amoungst others Tom Blenkinsop, Ian Lavery and Steve Rotheram. All MPs with strong union funding ties.

When the mace went up after the debate, the tension was not dispelled. Lavery, who is PPS to Harriet Harman, called Burley “a prick” – something he did not deny when Guido asked him about it, simply saying instead that “I’m not denying anything… I’ve got no comment to make.” Guido has four witnesses willing to go on the record saying that Steve Rotheram said “You just love winding people up, don’t you, you twat”. An allegation that Rotheram vehemently denies:

“…in fact I was the peacemaker on the night (Blessed are the Peacemakers eh!) I admit that when another Member made a disparaging comment about Mr Burley I did say sarcastically to him that there wasn’t a Court in the land that would find against the accusation . I also told him that he wasn’t going to wind me up when he was shouting towards me “what are you going to do about it” in an aggressive tone. … I have spoken with my legal representative and will defend myself against this accusation and will have more than 4 Members to support what I ‘actually’ said.”

Guido guesses he’ll have to see Steve in Court then…


188 Comments

  1. 1
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    So nice the left are.

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  2. 5
    Giles Bradshaw says:

    politicians routinely lie

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  3. 6
    Jobbo says:

    Lavery is the one with a conviction for football hooliganism so this talk is hardly a shock.

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    • 40
      Just A Passer By... says:

      When Blyth Valley and Wansbeck become a new conjoined seat it’ll be possibly the safest Labour seat in England.

      A nice, tempting bolt hole for Ed Balls when his disappears. Ronnie Campbell will retire but I’ll wager that Lavery will be a tad nervous.

      Watch that space Guido!

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    • 154
      BillyBob... says:

      A bully in the Prezza mould with a dash of Scargill thrown into the mix.

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  4. 7
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    Nice to see all the European Riechmasters leaders are ready to sit down for yet another slap up feed at taxpayers expence
    at this rate , they will be able to ask the fucking caterers to bail Greece out

    “Do Nowt Dave , the Spineless Bean faced twat about to “back door” yet more millions of our money to Greece via the IMF
    Our services are being cut , not to pay off the deficit but to pay for massive Greek pensions !

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  5. 9
    Andrew Efiong says:

    Well done Guido, you’ve flushed them out and have got them on the run.

    They’re rattled now their schemes are being exposed for all to see and they can’t take it.

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  6. 10
    Larry The Cat says:

    Time to shut down these commie unions once and for all..they brought the country to its knees in the 1970s,tried again in the mid 80s….never again! They are just part of Labours client state.

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    • 50
      Handycock the Hobbitt says:

      Rubbish I was a communist union Convener in the late 60’s early 70’s and did a good job holding the capitalist bosses to ransom. With regards to the public sector finacially supporting union representatives; I am fully in favour of it, they should be subsidised by the taxpayer as they are doing a good job for their members.

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  7. 13
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Guido

    You do relise that by going after Steve Rotherom (Mp for whinging scousers) that you will proberly recive death threats and have your windows put tho,they believe that is was he who singled handedly for the government to get he Hillsbrough papers relesed.

    (even tho all parties agreed and Labour done fuck all about it in 13 years and current government have sorted it out within 18 months)

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  8. 16
    hojoger says:

    Pricks and twats are useful, which is more than can be said of these load of left-wing anal-retentives. The unions ruined the British industry during the 1970s and then followed it up with 11 years of Labour misrule and the country now sits deep in the s**t. Thanks you left-handed w***ers.

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  9. 19
    Rob Dixon says:

    No wonder they’re getting uppity, people are learning about the corporate crime. It’s disgusting to see money diverted from front line public services to fund these toady MPs.

    Now we know their names we can watch them closer.

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    • 80
      Mystick1 says:

      Unions should pay these shits , not those who pay council tax. Just fraud and corruption by Liebourite scum.

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  10. 20
    Red Robbo says:

    Everybody out!

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    • 35
      Engineer says:

      They are all out, Robbo. Indeed, the whole works is shut down and most of the site cleared, I believe.

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  11. 21
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    Big news: MPs calling each other twats and pricks.

    If they keep on telling the truth like that they’ll have the whip withdrawn.

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    • 48
      Anonymous says:

      Fuck the whips Euroslime.

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      • 64
        sockpuppet #4 says:

        Get yourself a name.

        Whats this Euroslime thing? I’ve not really said anything pro-Europe, mainly just anti-loopy-hyperbole.

        You arent the chap with a greenhouse full of bent cucumbers are you? Comiserations.

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  12. 24
    Anonymouse says:

    Surely even insults said in the HoP are protected by parliamentary priviledge, how could one sue?

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    • 30
      Engineer says:

      What’s the point of suing over being called a twat? Says far more about the user of the term than the recipient, anyway.

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  13. 28
    Engineer says:

    In some of the places I’ve worked over the years, ‘prick’ and ‘twat’ were almost terms of endearment. Some people could be somewhat more forthright if they really didn’t like you.

    As for the Labour benches – if they’re upset, well good. This is an abuse of taxpayers’ money and it needs stamping out.

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    • 79
      Tossers the Lot of 'Em says:

      The antecedent of the “this” in your final sentence is undoubtedly the practice of “pilgriming”. An unwary reader might think you were in favour of stamping out the Labour benches as a waste of taxpayer money. While that might be a worthwhile goal, it would leave the Toe Rags and Limp Dims unopposed in their own waste of taxpayer money.

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    • 110
      The Paragnostic says:

      I remember one particularly annoying pillock I used to have to work with. One day my patience wore too thin, and I informed him

      “If I wanted to work with cunts I’d have been a gynaecologist.”

      The rest of the company collapsed in fits of helpless mirth.

      I’d suggest using this line next time you are irritated by any particularly dim co-worker.

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  14. 29
    MP's suck says:

    shout abuse, threats …. they’ll be striking next!

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    • 70
      J. Wellington Wimpy says:

      Wish they’d start striking each other, just like those East Asians we always see in those “Debate was heated in the so-and-so Legislature today” short blurbs on slow news days. A right shmozz never goes amiss, I reckon. Let’s you and him fight, I’ll hold your coats.

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  15. 31
    Infuriated of West Mids says:

    “… I have spoken with my legal representative and will defend myself against this accusation and will have more than 4 Members to support what I ‘actually’ said.”

    — Interesting use of the inverted commas around the word “actually”. Was that on advice from your “legal representative”, Mr Rotheram?

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  16. 32
    Four-eyed English Genius says:

    I don’t believe any Labour MP would have used these words. They are far too long!

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  17. 34
    Billy Bowden is the world's greatest umpire! says:

    “Guido guesses he’ll have to see Steve in Court then…”

    Fuck me,Nevis Crown Court is a long way to have to go

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  18. 36
    Steve Miliband says:

    Just popped out to get a coffee. Is the euro still intact?

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    • 41
      Tax Payer says:

      It’s ok, Sarko and Merkel are bribing Greek M.P.’s to betray their country as we speak.

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      • 150
        Mornington Crescent says:

        The ‘putes’ of Cannes are working overtime; they’ll all be pretty sore by the morning but all in a good cause, apparently.

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  19. 42
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    There will be No Greek referendum
    the threat by Shortarsey
    that if they left the Euro meant you had to leave the EU
    seems to have got the Greeks on the ropes

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    • 47
      Tax Payer says:

      No, he said they would have to leave the Euro?

      I thought that’s what the Greek’s wanted? Eat the meal and p*ss off without paying?

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  20. 43
    gildedtumbril says:

    Pricks and arseholes, all.Including the women. Whatever they feign they feign in vain.
    What is needed is not a clean out of the Augean Stables but a conflagration of same.
    The ‘pilgrims’ are an insult to every victim of austerity in Britain.
    Come to think of it I cannot remember there ever having been a lack of austerity in dear old Blighty.
    Any time held up as not austere I feel was probably a mirage.

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  21. 44
    Billy Bowden is the world's greatest umpire! says:

    OH !!!

    AIDAN BURLEY M.P. AN EXPERT IN POLICING?
    Aidan Burley is the Conservative MP for Cannock Chase. This article in response to a reply to an email sent to Aidan from one of the many police officers that are his constituents. The letter he sent back contains a number of inaccuracies. Of course we all make mistakes but Aiden is a very influential figure in shaping the current Governments approach to policing. This gives genuine cause for concern in view of the current crisis facing the police service through fragmented and disjointed reform. After leaving university Aidan worked as a researcher for Phillip Hammond MP before working for a management consultant company. In 2007 he undertook a career break to work for David Cameron’s Police reform taskforce. It was during this time he worked along side Nick Herbert and Blair Gibbs to produce a document entitled’ Policing for the People’. It is worth reading as it gives a background to the problems being caused by this government. After being elected as an MP Aidan is now working for Phillip Hammond again as his Parliamentary Private Secretary.

    Let us examine the content of his letter in a little more detail.

    Aidan and the HMIC

    Aidan starts his letter with selective use of the HMIC as a reference point. The HMIC says there is not enough time for a Royal Commission so the Government and Aidan agree but when the HMIC states that cuts beyond 12% will affect the front line, they still impose cuts of 20%.

    Aidan writes that the HMIC also states only 11% of officers are available for deployment but this figure is misleading because this 11% figure not only excludes officers off duty, but also officers engaged in work in CID, domestic violence and all the other very important specialist areas of policing. This is a common mistake.

    Aidan asks why no effort was made to make these savings during the previous years. However the HMIC report states that between 2004 and 2008 forces and authorities revealed efficiency savings of just over 1.5 billion against a target of 1 billion. (£784 million were declared as cashable savings). This demonstrates clearly work was already being carried out to make savings in the ‘years of plenty’ as Aidan describes them.

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  22. 45
    Popeye says:

    It’s so easy to spot the Union sponsored MP’s, as soon as they get to their feet and open their semi-literate mouths, before the class warfare bilge spews out.
    That is in the main.
    Why are they so uncouth and envious?

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  23. 46
    Labour says:

    We’re a party of decency!

    By the way, September 11 was a good day to bury bad news. And by the way, we planned a smear campaign against the wives and children of Tory MPs. And by the way, we tried to smear a train crash survivor who criticised us. And by the way, our last leader terrorised and attacked his staff. But apart from that, we’re decent. Child tax credits!

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    • 58
      AC1 says:

      > Child tax credits!

      Only for feckless reproduction.

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      • 65
        Anonymous says:

        Or middle class foreign holidays when the decimal point is ‘accidentally’ misplaced.

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        • 76
          COMRADE BOB CROW (ANNUAL SALARY £254,798) says:

          FUK THE MIDUL CLASS! TAXPAYURS R RITCH SCUM.

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          • MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

            And not forgetting .
            He lives in a rent free council flat !
            Life’s hard for the workers !

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          • MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

            £54,00 basic pay for a train driver

            Not much difference between a train driver and a rent boy really !
            Both sit in a confined space with their hands on knobs all day !

            My mate drives a train on the main line , three years ago , with over time he was earning over £75,000
            nice work if you can get it !

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  24. 49
    Labour, still and always will be the nasty party says:

    When Labour MPs call others a twat and prick, the saying “Takes one to know one” springs to mind.

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  25. 51
    TUC says:

    Just give us the fucking money and shut the fuck up. Jog on.

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  26. 52
    nell says:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/pensions/8866163/Millions-of-public-sector-workers-poised-to-strike-despite-gold-plated-pensions-deal.html

    The labour leftwing are just mindless thugs and the unions they support are no better. They are just out for aggro and trouble.

    public sector workers yesterday were offered a pension deal that gives then a 20 times better pension than workers in the private sector which is going to cost us the taxpayer £billions and yet they are still striking on 30 November.

    I do hope militwit and his unattractive, strident marxist front bench are going to be marching at the head of union column.

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    • 56
      Anonymous says:

      Your lifestyle is probably “20 times better” than a Somali refugee.

      Would you swap? Does it stop you wanting to be even better off?

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      • 62
        AC1 says:

        Somalis (In Somalia) don’t leech off British peoples wages.

        Basically their gain is our loss.

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      • 92
        nell says:

        I do not expect to better my lifestyle by stealing off hardworking taxpayers whilst I am being paid far too much taxpayers money already for doing a non job and that is the position of these leeches who are proposing to strike on 30th November.

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        • 113
          I don't recall the unions complaining when Brown plundered private pensions. says:

          According to Brendan Barber, the strike will mean car driving license tests will have to be cancelled.

          I am quaking in fear. Just how are we going to cope??

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          • AC1 says:

            Just wait till your community engagement 5-a-day facilitator doesn’t show up for a few days….

            Chaos.

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          • Anonymous says:

            OK, so what’s the problem with them striking, then?

            We can’t have it both ways.

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          • Luciana Berger - who hasn't she shagged? says:

            Thats not what Foxy claims…..oh, sorry, different topic.

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          • I don't recall the unions complaining when Brown plundered private pensions. says:

            Problem? With them striking?

            There is no problem. In fact, it’s great – because they lose a day’s pay, so for one day they’re not leaching off the British taxpayer.

            If only they’d strike more often. It’s not like they do anything useful. As everyone’s about to discover.

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          • Ivor Nidea says:

            Declare all those that strike to have voluntarily dismissed themselves and don’t let them back into the office (except to collect their copies of the Sun). hat will sort out the cuts programme much faster than seems to be happening.

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          • Up the Workers says:

            Just what is Brendan Barber doing swanning around Cannes today? Who has paid for his trip?

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      • 185
        Jolly Roger the friendly Pirate says:

        Note the cunning left-wing troll use of the word “refugee’ here. Really got you that, didn’t it? Made you feel shame and sadness and caused you you think all lefties really care and you don’t so you are inclined to open your wallet at once and give every demanding sob-story a fiver. Or if they are a student cruelly robbed of the EMA and unable to study Marxism, you cough up a tenner.

        Works every time.

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  27. 59
    Cressida's Dick says:

    Burley is a twat and a prick. He voted against an EU referendum.

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  28. 60
    If only says:

    Next Friday is 11/11/11. What will happen on this momentous date? Will Gordon Brown die? Will Ed Balls have an epiphany about what a hated c/unt he is and top himself? Will John Prescott explode from overeating? Will Tony Blair get his head caved in by a disgruntled Iraqi?

    No. But we can hope, can’t we?

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    • 91
      Real Estate Cult says:

      You’ve missed out Kinnock.

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    • 94
      Woodrow Wilson says:

      Maybe we’ll all look back 93 years and realise “Europe” doesn’t exist any more now than it did then.

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    • 97
      I only come here to view Comment of the Day says:

      My nephew is 11 on that unmentionable date. Should I buy extra garlic in my weekly shop?

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      • 106
        Kiddy Fiddler says:

        Whatever you do, don’t give him a birthday present – that could plant the seeds of socialism in a young, impressionable mind.
        Instead, make him earn it.

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        • 149
          Confucius, He says:

          Children are the most effective re-distributors of wealth on the planet.

          Excepting the kids from Village Of The Damned, of course: They were all Tories.

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        • 159
          Ivor Nidea says:

          My birthday this year (along with millions of others no doubt) was on 9/10/11. That won’t happen again for a while!

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        • 169
          Hypocrites says:

          Quite – in fact I think all of these socialist, eco-warriors ought to do us all a favour and stop reproducing. After all, that is what is causing global pollution – the massive population increase.

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      • 109
        Uh-oh says:

        Is your nephew called Damien?

        Have you checked his scalp?

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        • 130
          I only come here to view Comment of the Day says:

          No. His name is Frank and he likes knitting.

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          • Luciana Berger - who hasn't she shagged? says:

            Then introduce him to that nice man William Hague – they sound a perfect match.

            Like

          • Lord Mangledbum says:

            If you continue to make homophobic jokes, you will be expelled from the Labour Party.

            Unless you’re a muzzie, in which case it’s fine.

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      • 186
        No vamps for me says:

        You can afford garlic. Wow…

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  29. 61
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    at least we now know that Labour prefer Pilgrims to front line workers.

    socialisim eh.

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    • 69
      Mad Hattie Harman's curiously cavernous front bottom says:

      The British worker is something to be hated. They kept the Glorious Labour Party out of power for 17 years. We will not forget. The worker is nothing more than a cash-cow, to be milked.

      We will return. The milking will continue.

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      • 160
        Ivor Nidea says:

        I thought it was elephants that never forget and not cows – although in your case I can see the bovine connection.

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    • 71
      Anonymous says:

      At least we know Tories prefer traitors to patriots

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      • 73
        Mad Hattie Harman's curiously cavernous front bottom says:

        Patriotism is racism.

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        • 170
          Harriet Hatesmen says:

          Although it’s OK for the French, Americans (Insert any other race here) to be patriotic. We English have nothing to be proud of ourselves for.

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      • 74
        Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

        Are you saying Labour voted for a referendum?

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        • 78
          Anonymous says:

          Turd.

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        • 82
          retardEd Miliband's Parasite Party says:

          Yes. Between 1997 and 2010, we consistently voted for a referendum, but the Tories kept out-voting us.

          Likewise, they blocked our attempts to reduce immigration, and they stopped us from improving schools and hospitals.

          It was also the evil Tories who forced Gordon to sell half the nation’s gold for a pittance, and it was they who forced Gordon to take the national debt to ruinous and unsustainable levels.

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        • 86
          Anonymous says:

          Retard.

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      • 107
        Captain Clanger says:

        Pah! Traitors and patriots are exactly the same, except for a ‘p’ being substituted for an ‘r’

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      • 116
        AC1 says:

        Are you suggesting that those grauniad-reading extortion-funded moochers are patriots?

        I think they’d tell you off for that.

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      • 129
        Luciana Berger - who hasn't she shagged? says:

        I always thought Tories weren’t fussy as long as the boy was under 15.

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      • 187
        I once voted Labour and look what good it did says:

        At least we know Liebore prefers vacant-minded serfs mindlessly voting for the red donkey, to people with brains.

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  30. 66
    Well it's a thought says:

    So that Greek fella got his pension plan approved, no referendum for Greece, he must be a good card player or maybe he just wants to live to an old age.

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  31. 67
    Mikey says:

    I was at universty with Aidan. He was indeed a twat and a prick. He is, however, still right. Annoyingly.

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    • 125
      Luciana Berger - who hasn't she shagged? says:

      All student politicos are full of themselves; when I was at uni Charles Clarke was known as dopehead for two reasons although, strangely, Slimy Al Stewart didn’t go into politics despite his dimness and drinking problem.

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  32. 68
    Anonymous says:

    Burley is a referendum denier. Fuck the scum.

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  33. 77
    Anonymous says:

    Cameron is a filthy piece of shit.

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  34. 93
    Greychatter says:

    If the union leaders take their members out on strike, the Government should revert back to their original pension offer – let the union bosses take it or leave it.
    David please stop wasting time on these over paid, over pensioned Lefties, stop the Pilgrim funding by the tax payer and concentrate on getting the country out of the over spending mess Gordon Brown, Ed Balls and Ed Milliband created.

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    • 162
      helpful serf says:

      Well said Sir. You should stand for Parliament.

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    • 179
      Southern Softy says:

      To my shame I once worked for an organisation that had close links with UNISON. The top level activists spared no effort in funding trips to Cuba to pay respects to Fidel and his their commie mates. Also the number of fantastic union piss ups I attended funded by the subscriptions of nurses, hospital porters and cleaners were beyond belief. They are corrupt to the core.

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    • 188
      The quiet one on the green bench says:

      Ed Mili didn’t cause any of this. He hardly makes a stir in the House.

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  35. 101
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Labour MPs just can’t help themselves, natural born liars.

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  36. 104
    I don't need no doctor says:

    A union members avowed intent,
    To be a pilgrim.
    There’s no discouragment,
    Union members are all bent.

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    • 118
      Luciana Berger - who hasn't she shagged? says:

      It is sort of ironic; the members of both main parties are bent – just in different ways. Now which Tory Lord is chairman of the Westminster kiddy fiddling club?

      Like

      • 135
        The only good MP is a dead MP says:

        This is the reason we have two main parties: if all the gangsters mis-running the country for their own ends just set themselves up in one party, it would be pretty obvious what they’re up to.

        Two parties, however, allows them to hide what they’re up to.

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  37. 112
    Pilgrim Father says:

    If you don’t like it, f^&k off to America or something.

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    • 163
      helpful serf's history for beginners says:

      Said the Pilgrim Fathers, “A land of plenty”.
      Scene: America, 1620.

      Like

  38. 114
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Like

  39. 115
    Luciana Berger - who hasn't she shagged? says:

    Is it possible you and your witnesses misheard Guido? After all you did mistake “Blessed are the Cheesemakers” for “Blessed are the Peacemakers”.

    Like

    • 144
      Karolidies says:

      Hope all your posts have been cleared by the central committee, otherwise it’s the Gulag for you.

      Like

  40. 117
    Arthur Haynes (Comedian) says:

    When Gordon Broon sold the gold in 1999 (now a huge known loss), guess what he bought instead: EUROS

    They are now about to go worthless.

    John Bull printing kit anyone?

    AH (C)

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    • 127
      Gordon Brown says:

      tHe euRO noteS have gOT pretty PictuRes on them whEREas the Gold hasn’t got AnY piCtures so I wanTed the Euro noTes beCAuse they arRE pRettY.

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  41. 131
    New Yellow Shoes says:

    Seems many Germans want a referendum, even if the Greeks can’t have one

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-11-03/germany-s-bild-calls-for-greek-exit-referendum-on-bailouts.html

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    • 175
      I don't need no doctor says:

      I wonder if the Germans towels will be thrown in the pool when on holiday in Greece next year.

      Like

  42. 176
    Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

    Lots of fine words in the debate on Pilgrims but will Call me Dave actually do anything. He has been in power 20 months and achieved nothing, many fine speeches but no action.

    Whats the betting we will still have union funded Pilgrims at the next election

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  43. 177
    Jimmy says:

    “Lavery, who is PPS to Harriet Harman, called Burley “a prick” – something he did not deny when Guido asked him about it,”

    How could he?

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  44. 180
    Hang The Bastards says:

    Tom Blenkinsop a truely useless MP, who would stoop to this level.

    He’s also an avid supporter of the EU. A real scumbag

    Like

  45. 182
    Steve Rotheram says:

    I’m Paul McCartney. woooo-hoooooo
    Like my suit and bowl hairdo?

    Like


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