Here’s the Fear for Osborne
Back in July the government won a vote to send £9 billion to the IMF by just 28 votes, the tightest margin yet for the Coalition government. Despite the best efforts of the whips some thirty-two Tory MPs rebelled against the government. With Osborne’s pledge today to increase British contributions to the IMF before the cash is sent on its way to Greece, an even trickier vote lies ahead:
Labour voted against the government last time and Guido can see no reason why they would change their vote next time. If you add the 81 EU rebels on the Tory benches to Labour’s vote the government will be defeated. There is some obvious panic in the Treasury as the realisation has dawned that if Ed Balls marches Labour through the no-bailout door followed by the Tory rebels, the government will lose. Excluding minor parties it will be 339 votes to 282 against more bailout cash.
There are more Tory €uro-rebels than LibDem MPs, yet it’s Clegg and the swivel-eyed Europhiles with their hands on the tiller…
“Louise”
Maybe Osborne will work out a way of sending the money without asking Parliament.
Osborne is a joke just like Brown. But under Brown economy was growing for 10 years but under Osborne it never left intensive care.
and who put it in intensive care? gordon.
Gordon boasted of a “golden inhertence”, something Labour have never left the Tories.
Where the “golden” has the same meaning as it has in the expression “golden shower” ?
Its bankers.
SO*4. You’re not normally that ignorant and remember it was Gordon’s,” Light Touch”, that allowed the banking industry to overreach itself.
Grumpy Old Man says:
November 3, 2011 at 6:13 pm
With full support from conservatives, Ha*ue is the one who took banks case and convinced Brown.
@Anon
read hansard, you might learn something, tories warned when Brown removed the power of the bank of england to supervise banks that it could cause problems.
Billy, don’t try to change history.
Ball’s had refused to support giving more money to IMF as Cameron and Osborne wants. Its now up to the conservative MPs to vote against Cameron and Osborne and stop giving more money to IMF.
GOM. I was only pissin about, wonnI
I think we can all agree that ALL the main parliamentary parties have completely fucked up this country and NONE of them are worthy of power.
Anonymous says:
November 3, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Its bankers.
Pease stop swearing!
What colour is the sky on your world.
Increasing debt is NOT growth.
Still Osbourne* is out of his depth in a puddle.
* As are Labour MPs.
Then UK never had growth, using petrol money and council house sales to pay dole is not growth either.
Yowch! Back in the days of the oil boom, risky offshore drilling involved barely tested technologies to win crude from beneath the waters of the North Sea. Nowadays it seems that onshore drilling poses too much of an elfin safety risk.
Now, some of my best friends are elves, but I’m just saying..
What an idiot you are.
Have you ever spent your way out of debt?
If you have, you’re a bigger fool than I gave you credit for.
You don’t seems to understand Osborne is doing the same as Brown only difference is Brown spent it in UK and Osborne is spending it in other countries.
So you want an the end to the Euro?
That’s the immediate result of us saying no more cash, get stuffed. Because others would follow.And the fantasy bailout would be over.
Its fine by me but I would have thought Labour supporters rather liked the Euro.
On the contrary. If he’s spent his way out of debt and into surplus, he should be head of the IMF.
Anonymous, the economy grew because Brown encouraged people tp spend money they didn’t have. The boom was created by huge debt, including government borrowing.
I could order all the luxuries I need from Harrods, John Lewis, whichever store you wish to name. I could increase growth in that stores profits by that huge order. The only problem is that I don’t have the money to pay for it. Brown did the same with the economy, and borrowed beyond his means to repay the debt.
What’s so clever about that? You seem to be as economically illiterate as Brown an Balls.
Or selling the family silver (oil and council houses) and using it to pay dole to the same as well.
Problem is where we are, we cannot go and change the past and Osborne is not fit to save the economy.
@Anon
The state is not the econmey.
Council houses! family silver? family silver?
It was the costliest housing short of sticking chavs into the holiday inn,when wayne n waynette bust up the house you paid for, they expected you to pay to send some unionised lazy shyster on several visits to pretend to have an interest in fixing it……….Later wayne n waynetta contacted local solicitor (legal aid natch,you paid) to sue same council for failure to fix the door that wayne broke with waynettas head.it was simply a scam to transfer wealth (taxed) to wasters
Economy need the state and state need the economy, without both working together both will fail.
E.g. London looting, police and other public services were needed to protect the businesses.
East India Company wallah says:
November 3, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Council houses could have been sold off in the open market, country lost billions.
That point hadn’t occurred to me, though I doubt that the maths is as simple as you suggest. Maintenance costs were shifted to the purchasers for instance (as EIC Wallah suggested).
Getting willing purchasers for council properties would have involved careful (and costly) marketing to new purchasers who were then being very actively wooed by newbuilders like Barratt Homes.
Shiny and yours, or second hand and sited on the local estate?
Anonymous – Houses are only worth what someone is prepared to pay for them. When they were sold off in the ’80s, the occupants could (just about) afford to pay for them. Nobody else would buy them.
Today, you could put a nominal market value of £200,000 on a three-bed semi council house. If the occupants are on £20,000 a year, they can’t afford to buy it, and since it has a sitting tenant, nobody else would want it. So the nominal value is meaningless – the council couldn’t sell it for more than about three times the occupants’ income, so it’s actual value is about £60k tops.
Selling loss making council houses wasn’t selling the family silver.
Council houses (with the moochers in them) does not generate a profitable cash flow. Selling them was a stop loss.
Engineer says:
November 3, 2011 at 6:57 pm
What stopped the government from changing the law getting the tenant out and selling the property. Only reason they were sold off the way they were sold was for votes.
AC1 says:
November 3, 2011 at 7:09 pm
No 10 Downing street is loss making, people living there never pay rent, why don’t we sell it off? Its worth millions.
Anonymous, what planet are you on?
How many votes would there be in the forced eviction of council tenants?
Engineer says:
November 3, 2011 at 7:26 pm
I don’t know which planet you were on when Mrs T sold council houses off with discounts up to 50%. Only reason she did it the way she did it was for votes.
Have you forgotten Westminster and Shirley Porter?
While leader of Westminster City Council she oversaw the “Building Stable Communities” policy, later described as the “homes for votes” scandal and was consequently accused of gerrymandering.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Porter
Westminster and Shirley Porter was all about selling council housing stock, but not to the sitting tenants – just the opposite, in fact. Getting the feckless and the state-reliant out and getting good, right thinking and voting people in was what BSC was all about, and the cheeky gerrymandering bitch got done for it.
She was let off a huge portion of her surcharge by… er… a Labour government (while in exile in a certain place beloved of Blair and his paymaster Levy).
So characterising it in the way you do is not only disingenuous, it’s outright bollocks. Please try to find a few facts next time you post.
Anonymous – Mrs T believed that everybody has a right to stand on their own two feet and not be in hock to the state, that’s why she allowed the selling off of council houses (which, as others have pointed out, also relieved councils of a long-tem liabiity).
Dame Shirley was over-enthusiastic; so far as I am aware, no other councils exceeded their powers in this way.
So far as the “50% discount” goes, a house is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. The “market value” of a council house with a sitting tenant is not the same as a private property with vacant possession.
Anon,
If you are going to look at council house use for the purposes of gerrymandering you need to go further back than Thatcher or Porter but to Herbert Morrison the Labour leader of the LCC in the 1930s. To quote from his Wiki entry…
“During his time at London County Council he allegedly said ‘We are going to build the Tories out of London.’ The LCC made it its policy to build large LCC estates in Conservative voting areas.”
Porter was a nasty cow but Morrison was if anything worse.
Anon, also the biggest discounts were for people who had already spent many years living in, and PAYING for the property that they had been renting, and all those years of payments were taken into account. It would be wrong for councils to ask people who have already paid a full mortgage worth of money to stay in a property to stump up the full market price for their homes after already paying out so much.
In fact that would be a typical act of the poor hating labour party.
Exactly. No boom, just mirage. A mirage of an ever mounting debt pile the likes of which no country on earth has ever managed to pile up.
Brown managed to convince financially retarded chumps to borrow for Britain whilst he quietly picked their pockets with ever increasing taxation.
This extra taxation was used to bribe those same financially retarded chumps that Brown was ‘the best chancellor of the century’.
So in ‘financially retarded chumps’ I can include some very noteworthy so-called economists. Too many to mention but most either write in the broad sheets or are wheeled on to the BBC, even now, to provide their ‘ex-spurt’ opinion.
Hi Will!
Engineer says:
November 3, 2011 at 7:58 pm
We will never know the true value of those properties with sitting tenants as Mrs T never put it in the open market. She could have put them on the open market and let the person putting the highest amount buy even with the tenant.
“Council homes sold to high-bidding rapacious private landlords.”
What would the Labour party’s position have been on that one?
Grow up.
Engineer says:
November 4, 2011 at 9:15 am
So you thing Mrs T did that to please Labour.
I don’t care what is labour view on that. All I care is country losing billions.
1) You can’t ignore the politics of a situation. If any party had pursued a policy of evicting sitting tenants and selling their houses to the highest bidder (or selling to the highest bidder with the property still occupied, which is illegal) the opposition, the entire media and most decent folk would shout against it. The policy would inevitably fail, being seen to be grossly unfair.
2) The country didn’t lose billions, it lost a liability.
Not sure selling off stock at whatever price has been proved to have ‘relieved councils of a liability’. Councils now pay a fortune to private landlords to house the homeless. If we had retained that state owned stock those housing costs would now be minimal. So we all pay more for social housing, a few lucky people made a mint buying their houses off the council and private landlords are making a fortune. Not exactly what I would call a success story.
I thought Gordoom “invested” our taxes or was that just a dream, Liebour “invest”, the Conservatives “save”, the uconned us with added Libsh&tes “spend spend spend”.
I’m the man who ended Boom & Bust.
You certainly ended Boom.
A deputy PM called Nick
Came across as a little bit thick
As was plain to be seen
On the €uro he was keen
The tosser, the loser, the prick
Most of this government consist of thick people.
Either that or perverts who care and do nothing to prevent child abuse, in fact they remove record numbers of kids from parents for their nefarious purposes. Here is a child abuse judge, abusing his own child. Horrific scene. Family Court justice for you filmed in its entirety by someone very brave.
Actually you are wrong, they are not thick at all, they know exactly what they are doing and where what they are doing, will lead this country to. Brown was an economic saboteur who should have ended up in prison and Cameron & Co are carrying on where McRuin left off.
What is happening, is deliberate.
Tapestry says:
November 3, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Where there is water there will be fish.
Archer Karcher says: November 3, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Not exactly true, rewards MPs / ministers are getting is peanuts. Just look at how much they get in other developing countries. They have to be thick.
A dim public schoolboy named Clegg
Is mad keen to be thought a ‘good egg’.
Forgetting his country
He crawls to Van Rumpy
While his voters, abandoned, must beg.
A ‘cast iron’ fellow called Cam,
who fell for the old EU scam,
said, “No referendum.
Our cash I will send ‘em.”
Said the UK, “Shit, bollocks, fuck, damn!”
If Osborne doesn’t give the money, LD will vote against government in some other issue.
Some how Clegg has to get an EU job.
If Clegg did that, he’d be a Dutchman.
Oh. He is.
Good point. But just how the f*** do we get so many bloody foreigners representing (who?) in our Parliament? Surely original (not naturalised) British nationality should be a sine qua non for our politicians?
Excluding EU nationals from joining political parties or standing for office, is illegal under EU law.The entire Parliament could be populated by non British MP’s and there would be nothing you could do about it, as long as we remain within the EU leviathan.
Sarah Teather tell us what David Cameron’s words are on the whole IMF / bailouts debate…
I would SO hit that, but I can’t put my finger on why.
Can anyone help?
Yeah, you’re sick, seek help.
You can buy an inflatable rubber balloon Sarah Teather.
Its exactly like the real thing, only not quite as lightweight.
Be a gentleman wait til she stands up
Is it cos you’ve got a pork sword?
It’s completely normal JH.
I too have a Kapibara fetish, it’s the saddle bag chops that do it for me.
Take a butchers at this one, grrrrrrrrrrrrr…
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4646/sarahteather.jpg
Fuck off. I claimed first dibs on her ages ago.
You all need specsavers.
…and the rest of us need a sick bag, Alice.
I think what is needed here is a referendum so that the people can decide what to do.
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/20133
Yes referendum now. I understand that Tom Watson’s dirty big secret may involve a sexual reference to a Gerbil and a tube?
He was just Gereing up for his heroic assault on News International…
It’s stalled though. A great idea, but it should of hit the 100,000 in a few days. I’ve signed, and I’d guess most on here have. The sheeple just don’t care and that’s what the political classes rely on. We get the politics we, as a country, deserve.
Then we will all just have to get off our arses and work to promote it. Nothing good ever came of sitting about doing nothing.
Greek PM, DC and GO have been made an offer they can’t refuse. No referendum.
Then let’s tell our so-called leaders that we think otherwise.
I guess that’s why we need to have sheepdogs and shepherds to get them where they’re needed.
The always worth listening to Hugh Hendry
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/hugh-hendry-channels-irony-and-paradox-his-latest-financial-outlook
don’t spend money you don’t have
They are not just spending money they don’t have, they are spending money other people don’t have.
They are just printing money, BOE owns over 25% of government debt.
a sort of accounting trick as the BoE are owned by the state.
If BOE stop buying we will be in the same situation as Greece. Also pension funds and insurance funds are forced by law to keep certain percentage of their investments in government bonds.
Everyone knows king hasn’t got any cloths but no one will say it.
“Everyone knows King hasn’t got any clothes but no one will say it.”
Guido and half the regular commenters on this blog have been saying exactly that for at least three years.
Most of us have been saying the whole rotten edifice is fucked for a decade or longer. What I’d like to know is why did seemingly intelligent people believed house prices would go up 10pc a year, year on year forever and self-certified mortgages were a good thing?
I got two years in Strangeways for printing money
It’s just numbers on a computer screen, so why can’t the BoE just simply write off say 90% of it as an unrepayable loan, like all banks do eventually, and then we can start again with more realistic (but still fictitious) numbers?
I wish my nan had spend money she didn’t have. They would have left me a nice 30′s semi. (No really, they did think about it a bit)
It’s not as though we have to. To misquote Stalin, how many divisions does Herman von Rompuy have?
There is currently a window of opportunity to act effectively against the EUSSR although I think it won’t last long. I’m expecting it to be gone by the time of the supposed general election in 2015. Herman can rely on Cameron and the other traitors to do their duty.
Why can’t we make politicians personally liable for p*ssing taxpayers’ money up the wall. It wouldn’t anywhere near cover the costs but it might make them think twice before doing it and thereby save the taxpayer loads of money. I would love to see any number of them in penury for the rest of their miserable lives.
Ah, the ability of taxpayers to surcharge politicians and sequestrate their assets for poor fiscal performance. Bring it.
One would like to suggest that the peasants need to start an e-petition.
We was told by Gordon that one big bailout would be enough to save the world, why on earth are we now bailing out again.
Let em go bust, capitilisim should never reward failure or bailout failed buisness models and state should not bail out other states.
Politicons have to stop playing fast and loose with other peoples money!
You are not the real Billy, and I am not really a pair of camp 1970s puppets. Or for that matter a pair of chaps in government.
It’s all the little things that they forgot to tell everyone about first or second time round, they thought that they would let it all drip out slowly, you think it’s all over, oops here comes another one.
This is not funny! The Greeks suffered a lot under the german invasions.
Time to raise the old cry again – “Eleftheria I Thanatos!”
That was against an empire under which the Greeks had to pay tribute to unelected foreign masters too. Didn’t work out too well for the Turks in the end…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_(Greece)
Have you been working with the Lib Dem Bar Chart team for that one? Winning here!
Its a great tactic to blame this on the Libdems.
We only pretend to let them steer the boat in a direction we were going anyway.
Sell out Dave and Fools Gold Osborne spinning here.
Maybe Sammy Wilson MP will turn up and vote if there is a next time.
The idea that Balls would sour relations with the IMF is wishful thinking. They voted like they did last time because they knew they’d lose. Any sniff of the vote being defeated and they’ll march in behind the Government.
Of course they would.
All three main parties are joined at the hip over the EU and are every bit as fanatical about saving the socialist project as Barosso.
Whatever the cost.
I cannot see the difference between the now defunct Soviet Union and the present EU. The Soviet elite (living in luxury – sound familiar) resorted to threats, blackmail, total repression of democracy to force the component countries to comply.
Surprise……………………the EU elite (living in luxury on the money of the proles) has now resorted to threats, blackmail, repression of democracy in their latest attempt to foil the implosion of the farcical monolith a.k.a. the EU.
“What this country needs is a Chancellor with his mind on the job not on inheriting the Prime Minister’s crown.”
Thought it was Gordon Brown who said that…..but didn’t really mean it.
That lets you out then, Gideon
Shocking !!
“Osborne’s pledge today to increase British contributions to the IMF before the cash is sent on its way to Greece”
Since when did Osbourne say this? Last word was that they were considering it.
According to the Spectator, Huhne implied in a Cabinet meeeting that if he had been in power, the single currency would have worked. We’ll add this to the Charge Sheet
I for one believe him……….
It does not need a Huhne it needs someone with joined up thinking, someone who can tie all the loose ends together, see problems and react before they get out of hand, somone who can amalgamate laws in prospective countries, and can have a proper control of spending requiring proper accounts and cracking the whip when needed. I am sure there must be a personage on this blog who would be ideal for this job. The US did it and various other countries did it in the past.
The U.S. was one Demos.
I wholeheartedly recommend Jedibeeftrix and his excellent analysis of this subject.
“Can there be a European kratos in the absence of a Demos?”
And if I remember rightly, there was the small matter of a North-South dislocation that had to be resolved by a civil war before the US became united. Unfortunately, the wrong side won.
Roussos? It’s all Greek today.
He’d have personally milked the skittles from the Euro-Unicorns.
Econo-loon as well as eco-loon.
Golly gosh!
12168 kbps download speed and 720 kbps in the uploaded direction.
This torrential rain is a trifling distraction.
Please refer to me by name
Sent from my i-thingy
The government have a cunning plan
Cause so much dissent that every day someone will launch a new e-petition so minimising the chances of any one reaching 100K. simps
“the swivel-eyed Europhiles” Ha! Ha! Ha! Poetry………….
Not sure we’ll get the BBC to use the phrase with quite the fervour that it deserves.
“Labour voted against the government last time and Guido can see no reason why they would change their vote next time.”
A bribe or a kick in the nuts from our rulers on the continent, that will be the reason.
Parliament should let the people decide what to do:
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/20133
Message to Danny Alexander advocating reforms to public sector workers.
That’s you, that is.
Will MP’s pension arrangements be suffering the same scrutiny?
No choice is required. Every penny of public money should be scrutinised properly as a matter of course. Anything else is negligence by the people we entrust to look after the public interest.
How many twatting BBC staff are in Cannes? I’ve counted six on-screen tossers already.
Am I there, petal?
Do you really think we would send the bare minimum of staff when we’re talking about a free trip to Cannes. Think of the night life!
Guido could become adviser to IMF or Osborne, their numbers doesn’t add up as well.
But I bet they can conjugate.
Blimey! Is that still legal?
HOHO
Graph fixed. whinging and whineing deleted.
And let the public decide:
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/20133
Has Doug had a stroke?
why does Carswell want to continue the free movement of people within the EU?
“Their” is some obvious panic?
Grammar, Guido……Grammar.
£9 billion?? Why not give each of us £150 instead, at the same cost?
Would we have to buy Feta, oozo, and camels?
Of course – plus squid and pongy cigarettes.
With a strong coffee, a large ouzo and a dreadful hangover from the night before.
Happpy days. If only they would bring back the drachma I might be able to afford to go back to Greece more often.
Hello matey peep..you like stavros’ coffee,eh..Here you are..plate of olives and bread and a coffee..35 euro please..
I wonder why we have no growth, isn’t it?
Sad but true.
Bill, you pay the same number of pounds in Piccadilly for the same meal. Have you noticed that lots of west end cafes seem to be run by Greeks and/or Turks? Odd innit?
Everybody should have a massdebate about this issue, we should learn our lessons, draw a line under them, and move on going forward.
Massdebating as you tweet Billy…No tweets on today’s cricket results, just for balance you understand..??
lIts a fake Billy.
But you still haven’t given your opinion on the cricket scores.. Fake or not??
Just heard there will be no vote in Grease.
They could still slip up, though.
Nothing stopping the British having one. There is also a call for a referndum in Germany
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/20133
Naive Guido. Opportunist Liebor will abstain if the arithmetic confirms your theory.
Correct.
But it does demonstrate the vacuousness of their policies.
Ed votes against Dave. That’s about it.
If they WERE to vote against it would scupper the bailout and Miliband would have destroyed the EU.
He might not be able to remain leader of Labour after that error.
Although UKIP would be waiting for him with open arms.
will tribalism overule common sense form the labour party. to vote against this just to upset the tories and vote it down falls into cameron hands. He can say to europe that parliment has voted it down. Labour come across as anti europe when most mps are pro europe. It could end up more of a mess for labour if some mps decide to vote for the government.
Miliband’s a socialist, so only the three main parties would take him.
and safety catches off too
So, BBC 24 was showing the news conference with Sarkozy where he was spelling out how Germany/France were taking over Europe … and they decide its more important to leave that to hear Emily Maitliss talking to some anonymous Tory MEP daftie.
Who the fuck decided that?
Just as they ‘lost’ the link to Sarkozy calling for a transaction tax.
BBC guy just pointed out – debate on EU budget contribution is next week.
And that Sarkozy wants a transaction tax – moral right – and has backing of Frau Merkel.
Call Me Dave is either the man of steel or he is nothing.
Dave.. Just for once..Be brave.
Tell them they can have some bailout billions, or a transaction tax. Not both.
If they even try..we’re leaving and are happy to face the consequences.
we currently have a great opportunity to wring concessions from germany and france they need our money. The transaction tax can be kicked into the long grass as too difficault at this time.
Pay pal managed fine from scratch-no the real usefulness of a transaction tax is to have a reason to track ALL financial transactions as failure to do so would be viewed as tax evasion by the Banks,this was tried post 911 under The Big Bad Catch All Money Laundering Act-try paying 5000 euros into a lloyds tsb account if you want to meet the tongue clucking manager.No EU and GB governments are convinced that the reason the books dont balance is cos lots of people like barry and dorothy have wired money abroad and purchased an asset to keep the bowler hats hands off their hard earned dosh
you try getting more than £2,500 out of a bank it very difficault without prior authorisation.
A transaction taxes will only be paid, as all indirect taxes are, by the end users, the customers, not the banks.
@ arthur karcher
yes all transaction taxes will be paid by the end user but it would be the banks duty to police it
the establishment looking out for the establishment
Depends how much of a suntan you have – paying carrier bags of cash in – to the right money exchange of course – presents no problem to our enrichments here in good old GB.
and you really think that a flabby, spineless cun*t like Cameron will do that? Based on his performance in office to date – really?
He doesn’t look that flabby to me.
Spineless, worried, stresses, stupid? Yes. Flabby? No.
Gauleiter Sarkozy and Reichsprotektor Merkel have told me to borrow money, which you plebs will repay, to prop up the Euro, Greece, French and German banks – it is the right thing to do (© Gordon Brown) if Clegg and I really want EU jobs – whenever we get kicked out on our arses in 2015.
I thought Cameron was after a very highly paid job in the construction industry, when he’s finished covering England in concrete and high-speed railways that we don’t need.
“Call Me Dave is either the man of steel or he is nothing.”
Nothing it is then.
Butt out Guido. Increasing contributions to the IMF in periods of stress for the world economy is just what we, as a leading world economy, should be doing. We helped the Irish I recall for similar reasons.
A pity you have lapsed into UKIP lite on this site.
A little moan seems only fair if we must save the world.
We all know we have to do the bailout. £150 from everyone in the UK.
and we know that some of the country are in prison, so they won’t pay. Some are offshore, so they won’t put in a bean. some are on benefits and don’t pay tax anyway.
Some are disabled and exempt. Some are low tax threshold so they won’t pay. The very rich have accountants so they won’t pay. Public sector will strike and scream so they won’t pay. pensioners won’t pay. key workers won’t pay. Minorities won’t pay.Unemployed won’t ..housewives won’t. Councils won’t. Illegal immigrants won’t pay. The unregistered, the homeless,the drunk and drugged, the sick, the dying, the church,the tent people, the corporations, the stupid, the needy, the charities, the special interests groups.
Basically.. it’ll just end up being just you and me paying up..Not a Fruitcake. £20 billion each.
And If i were you, I wouldn’t rely on me…
That’s the long and short of it.
Hey, Quango? What’s this ballox that ,”…those on benefits do not pay tax…”? What the frigging hell do you think 20% on a Mars Bar is? Etc.
My estimate is that 30 to 40% of Shit benefits the poor bastards get goes straight back to the robbing bastards in whitehall.
In the case of pensioners, a worst case scenario,(A pensioner filling up his Mini plus a few injudicious purchases in one bad week) results in as much as 90% of the miserable STATE PITTANCE straight back to camoron, cleggover, and cobble to sprinkle over Africa like fucking confetti.
You have caused me much annoyance.
Well Gilded you are quite right – I mean look at the tax the poor old benefit fraudsters are having to pay on bottles of whisky and vodka and let’s not forget the betting tax!!
Thankyou nell. And my sincerest apologies , I neglected to mention the creature osbought, when I mentioned daffy camoron, cleggover and cobble. Perhaps they should be named the three eu stooges.
What a triumvirate of godamned traitors, and osbought, of course.
If I gave you £100 and then told you to give me £20 back, would I be £20 better off than I was before I gave you anything, or £80 worse off?
Those on benefits don’t pay tax. Nor do civil servants.
Civil servants don’t pay tax???
Ballox.
The ‘benefits’ have been stolen off us in the first place. The ‘government’
has NO money that that has not been nicked.
It takes little more than 5 weeks for a minimum State benefit to return to source by way of taxation. I don’t know why this isn’t more widely recognised. In that 5 weeks it keeps other people employed collecting tax for HMG.
The problem comes when fraudsters take that money out of circulation or when it is spent on foreign holidays. However I can’t imagine many people on £65.45 (£68.95 if on incapacity benefit) per week taking foreign holidays.
…and another thing. Before I forget.
I would not willingly contribute the thousandth part of a counterfeit brass farthing to bloody Africa.
The more we try to help the worse it gets. Has no dozy bastard government never noticed?
You know Gilded you’re being really unfair about this!
I mean just take one small state in africa that receives £millions in aid – the congo(zaire) and it’s dictator kabila.
We’ve made him immensely wealthy, a billionaire in fact and look what he does with all that money – he gives some millions of it to bliar to act as his adviser and spin doctor.
Would you really deny our taxpayers the opportunity to set aside their hard earned taxes for aiding the poor countries and then to give it to the really needy folks like kabila and bliar?
Well you are so mean!!
I may be mean but I am not against relief. It would pleasure me no end to be appraised that kabila and bliar had been relieved of their earthly presence.
Me too sweetie!!!
I’m fed up with these evil labour freelancers like mandy(global counsel) and bliar with his myriad offshore companies making £millions from taxpayers monies being paid into the overseas budget for relief of poverty!!
Disgusting!!!!
We did indeed ‘help’ the Irish, we gave them billions of taxpayers money, that we will never see again.
Forcing my children into tax debt before they have even left school is not big or clever, it is plain wrong.
I think you might find that most of that moolah went to the Irish government from the UK taxpayer to pay the irish debts owed to UK banks owned by the UK taxpayer so I think your kids might be ok after all,but then again maybe not.
The greeks must be given money so they can write off money they owe to french banks owned by french taxpayer who are equally lazy,bolshy,tax evading and early retiring twats
When this country was informed that many of its local authorities and local government agencies had lost money in Icelandic banks not owned by the icelandic taxpayer,what did Gordon do? he invoked international terror laws against a sovereign peaceful nation,he f***ing what? you say! Yep our Gordon really did that-Gordons boom was fuelled by fools such as these icelandic banks and our own Northern wreck and this was his smokescreen
Never let him forget it
UK PLC is skint – so skint that we pay £7 a gallon for fuel, 20% VAT, watch our savings devalued, see our pensioners freeze, stop building social housing etc etc in order to reduce a debt burden and the deficit.
Yet the Prime Arsehole not only BORROWS money in OUR name to PISS AWAY on lame ducks who NO-ONE will lend money to because they are economically CLUELESS/USELESS/INCOMPETENT, but gives away any savings as well!
And the arseholes then suggest that I should pay them £3 for a vote, but will deny me a vote on EU membership!!
I will never vote Labour or Lib Dem, but today Cameron just added the Tories to the list – I will vote for the friggin’ BNP before any of the LibLabCon wankers.
WAKE UP CAMERON: The EU arselicking alarmists have NEVER been right in ANY of their predictions – hence the current crisis – so why listen to them now?
Cut them loose.
Should you ever form a political party, you will have my vote.
And mine
And my sack of Postal Votes too.
+100
It’s known as command and control.
The way I see it, Dave is merely living up to his promises to tie foreign aid into gay-friendly policies on the part of the recipients.
Given that the Greeks practically invented sodomy, it is only natural that they should receive the benefit of our new, pink tinted largesse.
Applause /\ /\ /\ /\
seconded!
People shouldn’t forget the IMF bailed the UK out in the 70′s, so we should get and pay. Its a collective pool.
Well, the IMF bailed out the Labour government of the day, at any rate.
Yet another failed socialist government and at what cost and hardship too.
Stop benefit cheats and get rid of the immee grants !!
The IMF, like a good bookie, never loses on its odds. It usually relies on devaluation to recoup its loans, which is what happened in the ’70s.
If Osborne has any spare cash, I’d rather see it spent on fixing the potholes in my road. I think of him and his odd priorities every time that an HGV hits a pothole and make my house shake. I get to curse him many times a day.
If Osborne has any spare cash, I’d like to see him give it back to the people he has wrongly taken it from, the taxpayers.
If he wants to bail out the world endlessly, let him do it with his own money, not ours.
I’m afraid we’d rather spend your money on India’s space programme and Pakistan’s nuclear weapons development.
And the rest we’ll just give to the EU. Like we said we wouldn’t.
Toodle-pip! What what.
Just thinking about it, before May 6th 2010 ,we were defending you, within a months even die hard Conservatives were hating you, if you lead blue Lebour at the next GE , then don’t expect us to vote for your party.
When Conservative supporters hate Cameron more than Labour supporters hate Cameron (as is now the case), then the game’s up.
The coalition govt looks set to fall over the Greek bailout.
But a new general election won’t really make much difference.
And there’s the likes of Italy and Spain sharing the room.
Whilst the Greek Problem will not go away – it will be back in time for New Years.
All in all, this is what a Systematic Economic Implosion looks like.
A new snap election will see off the libdems…… oblivion here you come
I’ll do everything in my power to save the LimpDims! Everything! I’ll sacrifice all my principles, I’ll sacrifice my own MPs. God, I’ll even sacrifice Britain itself.
I just love sucking LimpDim cock.
Let us pray for those less fortunate than ourselves, like…er,er,er. The pigging Greeks whose sole industry appears to be defaulting.
There is no sense throwing my great, great, great grandchildren’s future into a bottomless pit of DEBT that will never be repaid. And it is money we do not have. Unless the ‘government’ decides to tighten everyone’s belt, except their own, even further. What a bunch of useless bastards.
mn,,/ n,n,n
Gordon, ask the nurse to remove your straitjacket before you try typing anything else.
Apparently, Germany still owe Greece money from WWll.
Why are they not repaying this?
I bet the fuckers never compensated us for the damage they did to us in WWII, either.
If I remember a few years ago wasn’t their a moan about us having to pay reparations via higher ferry boat charges to France because we bombed them.
I’ve not heard that one before, but if it’s true it reaffirms by belief that we were fighting on the wrong side.
The economy is on the verge of flat lining. When we are skint Charity begins at home. We look after ourselves first and once we have achieved this, we are in stronger position to support others if we want to. Why jeopordise our own economic well being for failing economies. We must be commited to our own well being first.
That’s right. Just like what those pretty air hostii always say before take off: “In the unlikely event of cabin decompression, an oxygen mask will drop from the box above your head. Put your own mask on first before aiding children and others”. We should apply the same principle to our hard earned cash.
That or a good wank.
Because after you’ve eaten it you realize that nothing could be fucking worse.
I used to work for a kebab-meat delivery company based in Sussex.
Do you know how many times a kebab has been defrosted and refrozen before it ends up on that rotating spike?
You don’t want to know.
and i used to work on a building owned by a kebab manufacturer
if anyone saw the shit they put in them ,the stuff that falls on the floor swept up and shoveled back into the machine , the filthy conditions that these people think is acceptable for food processing. The old dried blood stained staff who always have a fag hanging out of there mouth while working and the kebab shop owners who turn up and just throw the unwrapped kebab meat straight into the boot of an old Nissan
Oh and as for the metal tubes that the meat is wrapped around they used to cut them on the floor outside in the yard which was covered in old grease and pigeon droppings and the unbearable smell of rotting meat that 20 years on i can still remember !
Lovely ! Get it down yer neck !
Everything you wrote brings back happy memories!
We used to wrap the kebab meat (20/30/40kg) in muslin cloth, which had to be tied (so the meat can be carried more easily). We’d regularly cut our fingers, and we couldn’t take a break to wash our hands, so the blood would just get onto one kebab after another. We’d wrap maybe 50+ of these things at a time – in the summer heat, whilst they defrosted.
Then we’d shove them in the freezer.
Then they’d defrost on their way to the kebab shop, because if we turned the van’s refrigeration unit on, we’d end up draining the van’s battery if we forgot to switch it off when we stopped. And then the meat would sit in the smelly store rooms at the kebab shop (some of these places are vile) and it would sit there, with the flies, in the heat. No staff around to put it in the freezers.
Yummy!
I remember something similar when working for a pizza company who supplies all the supermarkets.
horrible stinking animal flake fat going in (suitable for veggies yes ok) bases baked in stinking machines then the toppings added by hand unlean ones usually who used to scrape cheese and whatever else off the floor and chuck it on.
Stinking meat, cheese etc
The same ones goto various shops some mugs just pay more because they think they shop at a better supermarket.
the same with tomatoes the chemicals they used to pump into them on farms was dodgy as well.
And they STILL taste delicious!
Just proves how good they really are
Kebabs and pizza – Mmm…
They’re coming to take me away, ha ha, he he,
but not before I’ve given your money to Islamabad
and Delhi
and Brussels ho ho.
Ha ha, he he. And then I’ll scrap your navy ho ho and abolish the RAF. And they’ll take me to the euro funny farm when the nice young men in their pinstripe suits will answer to me, ha ha, he he lots of your money will come to me he he.
Guess who paid for the new Indian Grand Prix circuit? And why they called it they Grand Prix?
It’s not a Greek bailout plan. It’s a GREEK CREDITOR bailout plan.
It’s a bank bail out plan as they are the fucking idiots who lent Greece all the money
mainly French and German banks which is why Shortarsey and Adolf Merkel are desperate to sell this , as doing Greece a favour
Idiot? No. They lent money to Greece at a premium (to cover their ‘risk’, which doesn’t actually exist) – so.. kerrching! and THEN they get bailed-out by the likes of the moron Osborne – kerrching!
So: the banksters lend money, they make money on lending the money, and then all the money they lent is repaid by us.
The only idiocy is that our politicians fell for it.
Yes, but that particular penny (or euro if you prefer) has yet to drop in certain quarters (or dimes if you prefer)..
Ooh, this high finance is dewin me ed in.
Good!
Oh Yes! Real credible economist is edballs!!
He told gordon to sell the gold at brown bottom after he had given a press release to say that’s what was going to happen and ‘amazingly’the price of gold fell before gordon sold!!
Real Strategist Our Ed!!!
Do give over Guido what’s wrong with that!
You think edballs is a great economist??!!
Ed Balls has always been supremely economical with the truth.
Greek myths “give the people a refrendum “?
Grease musical improv “Go Greece lighting , your burnin up a 1/4 of the ESMF, (oh keep talkin oh keep talkin) Go Greece lighting your sittin on hands , your just a tease , oh wont you please , Greece lightin , da da da du du du .
It turned cold ……..,
thats were it ends ……………
, so I told frau merkel we could still be EU friends
or
You better shape up , cos i need a coin
and my heart is set on the IMF
Whilst it is right not to have much to do with the bailout out the eurozone , in the sense that it is of there own making , the worry of course is that Ms Legarde is not sufficently clear and satisfactorially accountable that IMF funds will do what they are intended to do , in that they actually stabilise a country and not an imbalnced currency. It is one thing to take a vote , quite another to have one without any idea on what Ms Legard intends to do or prohibit in any action the IMF can take.
The EUs requirement is for the ESEF and the IMF to act in a cordinated way , and we dont know what the ECB is considering , traditional thinking is that the ECB will be distant to soveriegn debt , so it would appear to me that the ECB will be doing some bond efforts or boost the ESEF but capped .
George Osbourne has not confirmed what he expects the IMF to be doing , so that bns of UK money does not vanish down some finance trick black hole .
As many analysts have pointed out , Greece is now ravaged to further insolvency as it is over borowed even with a 50% hair cut , further hair cuts tie the IMFs hands , and as lender of last resort the IMF must be dealling in measures on tangeable assetts , which should mean none eurozone contries .
Theres quite a bit more we need to know , to be sure the IMf gets its money back in fixed and agreed time limits , and not some sort of rolling facility that does not impose ecnomic corrections
This lying pair of “Butt Buddies” Cameron and Osborne , know exactly where this money is going !
they have not even raised this imaginary trillion euro’s they plan to use
they are going cap in hand to China to try to borrow 90% of it
Has there , or will there ever be a politician who can actually tell the truth ?
I fear not
Lying , cheating , robbing , thieving , sexual deviant’s One and All !
Where the f*ck does all this money come from ? I assume it is nothing tangible ?
The printing press?
Not any more – we’ve gone electronic. It comes out of a computer.
how times have changed, bring back the typewritter!
Yes it’s time someone unplugged the bloody thing too.
Absolutely nothing new about Tory councilors
being caught with their cocks out in the bushes !
I believe that the March Mayor was labour but I could be wrong.
Funny place March – right in the middle of the fens . A few years ago their Father Xmas got disgruntled at the way he was being treated and went on strike!! (seriously!!)
Yes when the police arrested them they were admiring his “Red Rosette”
Typical!
Cllr French said: ‘How did you find out about this? You’re blowing it all out of proportion.’
At 80 !. Some have all the luck.
I read somewhere today that when germany exiited greece after WW2 they took about £60billion in treasures, gold and stuff that they’ve never returned and that the greeks think the germans owe them big time.
Now I’ve no idea whether that’s true but we do know from history that the germans did have a history of asset stripping the countries they invaded so it’s not unrealistic to suppose that’s what happened.
And if they did take goods and gold to the value of £60billion I have no idea what that would be worth today but probably more than enought to get the greeks out of their black hole.
My understanding is, the Germans invaded other countries in order to asset-strip them.
Coal, oil, iron, wheat, renaissance paintings.. Whatever. National Socialism had left their economy fucked by 1937 and they needed money. That lebensraum thing was just for show.
Yup.
Gold teeth , human hair and skin , all usefull to the Germans
and as for the asset stripping
They took everything that the indigenous population no longer had any use for
Usually because they were dead !
So true Frankie.
My Uncle was a young man, part of the British 11th Army Division that liberated Belsen.
There were 60,000 seriously ill prisoners there and 13000 unburied dead many of them women and children.
Our lads were told not to give the inmates food, especially the chocolate that they had in their pockets because it would kill them; the inmates ( who were Russians, british, Jews and many other nationalities) were so starved and abused.
The horror of it never left him. Belsen was just one of many such centres , and a smaller one at that, that the germans had set up!
I don’t think that sort of evil can ever be expunged or forgiven.
So if the Greeks thinks they are owed at least £60billion from the invading, rapacious germans from WW2, they are probably right.
There’s an interesting bit in The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by the late William L Shirer, in which he tells how Hitler called his subordinates into a meeting and told them, “we’re broke” and that if the Nazis were to remain in power, they basically had to go and rob the neighbours.
If all they’d wanted was lebensraum, Poland should have been enough. The Ukraine, certainly, would have been all they needed.
Guido won’t let me post on here about my uncle who was part of the 11th British division who liberated bel+s+n.
60k seriously ill people – 13k dead – many women and children.
the g=rm=ns were e v i l + 1000′s , can’t express. If the greeks think they’re owed by the germ+ns I think they are probably right and then some!!
Crumbs it’s almost like Socialism is a synonym for Shortage.
Who would have guessed that destroying Comparative Advantage, the #1 force for productivity would destroy the economy?
>60k seriously ill people – 13k dead – many women and children.
A post about your NHS trust?
I was enjoying this immensley until I spotted Johann Hari playing his fiddle at 2:07.
Hugh Grant’s new Liz Hurley lookalike German girlfriend on his right, but 30 years younger! Ooer.
http://www.blogcdn.com/celebrity.aol.co.uk/media/2011/11/hugh-grant-elisarex590-1320318883.jpg
Her nose looks like it has had front row action
you should see what her arse looks like – lots of back row action
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/21407
e-petition
No More Money to the EU OR IMF for Europe
Responsible department: Her Majesty’s Treasury
We declare that we do not wish any British taxpayer’s money to be given by Britain to the European Union, for the purposes of rescuing Eurozone countries, either via the EU itself, or via the International Monetary Fund.
That would be the end of Labour on the International stage.
Being Opportunist within the BBC environment is different Internationally.
They get angry and bite back.
End of labour on the international stage?
deluded, failed gordon thought , when he left no.10, that the world beyond the uk was going to feat him and make him the next chief of the IMF. He was going to be a real bigwig in America!!
He and his sidekick balls have been derided and ignored on the national and international stage – surely that is the beginning of the end of the uk labour party internationally!!
No-one respects them anymore.
Nell, luv, the word is ‘fete’, French n stuff.
Perhaps fiat- Italian and stuff, as in command
even feet- soccer and stuff, as in he needs a good kicking.
veet – hair removal cream Gord always had 5 o-clock shadow
Nell’s comments are directed at the thinking man and consequently all and every onomatopœic possibility should never be ruled out before making judgement.
Billy, I notice that ” Our Arts Correspondent ” on Channel 4, is wearing his poppy on his right. Is he sending out a particular message?
As long as he/she is wearing a poppy that’s OK.
Let’s not forget hmm?!
Didn’t know it made any difference.
not someone you’d want next to you in the trenches
Most right-handed folk wear their watch on the left wrist and a good number of left-handed folk wear theirs on the right wrist. So maybe this poppy placing is simply more natural to him – unlike ignorant clown Beckham who wore his gong on the wrong lapel at the abbey.
What’s all this Euro crazy talk about eh?
I told you all time and again I SAVED THE WORLD and ended BOOM & BUST!
You’re all mad, mad mad mad I tells yer, lalalalala it’s fizzy orange time now but I need to do a jobbie in my potty.
Wake up you lot – the Marxists have nearly won by way of the Cloward and Pivin strategy
http://www.infowars.com/obama-the-cloward-piven-strategy-and-the-new-world-order/
Too longer read for me, if can you condense it in to a small paragraph or two maybe I’ll read it then…
Oh look a butterfly!
Socialism = evil.
@Ah monika. He is definitely a heterosexual. No doubt about it.
In that case, me too.
According to Neo-Guido, i made a funny!
Billy’s best ever comment bit.ly/tIOjEr @Ontablets @GuidoFawkes
Maybe not funny, but “best”.
#isnotworthy
Would you ever just fuck off and die somewhere
See to right- access to new thread
order order link to new thread not working Guido.
Gremlins in the system requires entry top right- Balls remark
Twatter frame is fucked too.
I wonder what these guys were up to? The Athens News reported on Wednesday that the Greek Defense Minister sacked all the Greek National Defense staff, the Greek Army staff, the Greek Air Force and Greek Navy General staff.
Hellooooo.
Must be signed by Tony Blair, I suppose…
LOL
Arsewipe
Osborne and Cameron will always betray – the only thing they support is themselves.
Where are the conviction politicians? Do they only number 81>
Frank Field.
Bill Cash.
That’s the lot.
Kate Hoey, Dan Hannan ……the 81 tories who want a referendum…………
There’s a few about – don’t decry them!!
Dont forget the 15-20 labour MPs who defieed Eds 3 line whip.
Yes – there are some labour mp’s with a decent conscience too – just not enough!!
One was mine nell, at this rate i might vote for the C-unt next time……
Well you’re lucky Bill. My tory , shailesh vara, sat on the benches of the HoC all night that night ,never bothered to tell us, his constituents who were asking how he was going to vote , what he was going to do , and in the event in a cowardly gestiire voted against the referendum.
I suspect he’s hoping for a PPs job from one of those honorable PPS’s who resigned to vote for us the people.
I’m thinking of asking UKIP to make sure they put up a strong candidate in this area against this traitor at the next election and I’ll not only vote for him I’ll canvass for him too!!
I have voted tory for 40 years and I am finally disgusted with the way this tory lot are treating their supporters!!
Lucky is one word….
@nell & Billy..
No cricket love in tonight…All quiet on the western front eh..??
Dont mention the cricket!!!!
Come on Billy, you decry football but condone a $50 billion scam..
OK, forget the cricket and lap this up:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/g20-summit/8868676/Britain-poised-to-provide-billions-for-new-rescue-package-as-euro-crisis-deepens.html
Cameron’s going to give away billions we don’t have. Just like he promised he wouldn’t.
No i dont , guido prefers that i dont go to far off topic, his blog etc.
For what its worth they should have harsher sentences and been banned from all first class cricket for life.
I particularly like the picture, of Cameron pretending to be chums with the French midget Zarkozy, after Zarkozy basically called Cameron a cunt. Not far from the truth, to be sure. But Cameron’s opportunistic cowardice is breathtaking.
Excuses don’t wash Billy…(Guido’s blog/rules bollocks).
Cricket is corrupt..!
Stand up and be counted..
Sub continant Cricket is corrupt (IPL etc).
I think Sir Ian Botham may have more to say on a world wide corruption within the cricket community.
Thanks for your response Billy, it’s appreciated.
Convicted politicons?
Morley,Chaytor,Devine, Hannigfield/ford/Taylor.
Soon to be convicted: Hunt, Laws and Mcshane.
Think thats it.
Possibly but there would have been more justice if that list had contained uddin!
Oh Billy..You deserve some of Paragnostic’s Greek pink tinted largesse…
There are plenty who should be convicted.
Tonight’s Question Time comes from Parliament for the first time, in Westminster Hall. I’d like to watch it but Blinky is on the panel and I don’t really want to smash my TV in. And who did the govt put up against him? Theresa May. With Dumblebee hosting, Balls will have free reign. The other panelists are Shirley “I’m still dining out on being a former minister 50 years ago” Williams and poet Benjamin Zepheniah. Yawn.
Shirley Williams is still alive?
was shirley ever alive??! – she always seemed to be walking around in a fog !!
Am I a leftie or a rightie I’m not sure.. ..
Regrettably the architect of the ruin of our (then) very good education system is still alive glorying in her treachery.
Or to put it another way: regretibly de arkiteck of de ruwin ov are ejercashyn sistum iz stik erlyv glowyin in er trecheri. innit.
how can they tell?
Oh sweet Jesus! Just reading those panelists makes me feel suicidal! I used to love watching Question Time, but I literally haven’t been able to watch it for the last year – it just pisses me off far too much with its lefty agenda and audience.
And as for Balls and Benjamin “Did-I-mention-I-was-offered an-OBE-but-turned-it-down-cos-”Empire”-is-all-slavery-innit?-But-I-was-definately-offered-one,-yeah?” Zepheniah being on the same panel, my TV would only last about 10 seconds.
God that Zepheniah is an over-rated cock. He might be the only person I hate as much as Brown/Blair/Balls/Harman.
Apropos of my Benjamin Zepheniah hatred about, if you want a good laugh, read the Grauniad article he wrote about turning down the OBE. It’s fucking hilarious. But it makes me want to punch him in his self-obsessed chip-carrying face too.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2003/nov/27/poetry.monarchy
“about” = “above”. I blame Louise Mensch for my damn sticky keyboard…
3 leftwingers to one coalitionist possibly rightwinger May.
I guess that’s the beeb’s idea of balance is it?
The beeb has become a joke. A failed joke .
Time to sell it off and let the market take over.
It’s news and political programmes will sink without trace because they are so biased, unprofessional and tribal.
Nobody other than north korea would be interested in buying their prejudiced worthless points of view!!
“Time to sell it off and let the market take over. ”
OK: 40p. Take it or leave it.
Make sure I have the money by tomorrow.
Sorry, you are too late – we no longer accept ‘currency’. Got any spare jellybabies?
Why can’t we televise trials like they do in the States? Would the likes of Hugh Grant be as enthusiastic to act twatty or issue frivolous lawsuits if they know the whole country will see them being forensically cross-examined? And think of the entertainment value we missed out on by not seeing Margaret Moran, Elliot Morley, Jim Devine et al being hauled before a court. Let’s bring in televised trials now. Who knows if Blinky will one day appear in court? I’ll want to enjoy watching that smug, corrupt nazi c unt get torn to pieces on the stand.
http://bit.ly/sykE27
Vote for me or burn in hell !
Ah! you sound very like the german hausfrau and her predecessor herrh+itler.
Do what I want or else!!
Graphs, FFS. If I wanted more graphs, I’d put some shorts on, make sure I had name-tags on anything I owned, check that my mittens were attached to both ends of the elastic that runs up one sleeve and down the other and then fuck off back to primary school.
At least this one’s got a sensible scale.
Be grateful for small mercies…
So what’s stopping you then?
The IMF 28 majority was the 2nd tightest for the Government. £9k tuition fees went through by 21 votes last December.
OK G’Night Sweeties.
Can’t wait to see what the german hausfrau and poison french dwarf do tomorrow!!
Laters nell
They’ll be telling David Cameron to utterly shaft the British public.
And Cameron will dutifully comply.
We get Diane Abbott and the Greeks get this!!! Not fair
http://www.infobarrel.com/media/image/8287.jpg
Greek Totty.
Sweet. She’d do.
But you missed Yvette Cooper and Harriet Harman. Next to them, Fatbut isn’t so bad.
Looks like an over made up tranny to me…
A Sarah Teather bias, perhaps..?
You have to admit, the lovely Sarah does at least look female…
a female pig?
Touch of the Melina Mercouri when she was an actress(before turning politician) in her younger days (for those old enough to remember her from the 1950′s)…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melina_Mercouri
The BBC would like to issue a warning that the following program Question time may include scenes of a spurious ecnomic content , fiscal incontence, graphic buffoonery and utter lies .Any viewers finding sociliast malfaisence offensive should look away now and cover ther ears for nearly 1 hr , as the constant interuptions, facial gurning and “but david” lines are likey to be annoying let alone signs of shambolic policy madness .
I have just installed the glaspex screen on the telly, put a small inflatable paddling pool infront and cleared the supermarket out of out of date tomatos , got the freeze frame ready , and hoping to have a jolly time
a much better post.
The RTN fine tuning is working – I’m entering him in the Turing Awards next year…
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=RTN
recursive transition network – a means of generating human-like sentences programmatically.
I have felt more warmth at a WMC darts match on a monday !
After nearly 5 yrs blogging its good to know Ime off the bottom , still musnt get carried away with the fame , up at 5 am to lick t road clean with tongue , prison fatigues and tour of the charity shops .
Got another GK Chesterton book today , so may go all sarf and plummy with some choice delight quotes . (enjoyed his Francis of Assis work)
Nor really much to say on QT , other than eds vocation is to be some of hand puppet artist , Mr Zephania doesnt change not really to good at how details work , Peter Hitchens managed to get his most desired line in (phew the archbishop must be pleased he can now freely talk about God).
TW I know quite a few think very highly of Andrew Niel , in part because he has always used his experience and didnt go the full pravda like some managed . His bit on church protestesters was interesting in that in that he explored some effects we hadnt thought of “how many bankers have been heard ” although economically incoherent made me laugh .
The point about not scaring the tourists , or for that matter services , washed down with the line “if you think its unfair put yerself for election ” was tempting , I mean St pauls has been closed , No labour person has come along to clear it up , why are they asking the church to decide on somthing that is more in the realm of politics, “you know chaps , right weve seem and heard you , cant really do anything , go and see some of TUC wallas and either form a party for election or join one , but just stop loitering with an incoherent and slightly juvenile message ” yes capitalism has it problems , but name one country where socialism has been an uncorrupted success with decent living standrds ???………….mmmmm cant answer , well just pack yer tent and let the surrounding shops get on with business until you understand the question .
Please no more! Punctuation, Punctuation and “Spill Chick”
Just endured 25 seconds of Blinky on Question Time. I had to switch channels to avoid turning my TV into a frisbee.
I rated the Ewoks as being slightly better with use of hands in fable telling
BenjiZeph..what a twunt…stick to the poetry FFS!
Poor Ed Balls, it must be tough knowing that no matter how ugly you are, your wife is even uglier!
I talk a lot of common nonsense!
Thank Fuck Dimblebore is giving me full rein, I can utter my phrase FLATLINE as much as I want…FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE,FLATLINE!!!
OMG !!
Ewa doesn’t claim to know anythin bout politics , economics etc. an that but even I sees the flaw in Ball’s logic , hun x .
Why TF is those people clappin him , FFS ???
Durrrrr E x .
There’s often been a lot of derogatory comments here about blacks and black youths in particular, and I’ll admit I’ve been guilty of that too, but ironically just a moment ago on Question Time a young black guy in a beanie hat and speaking in an “innit blud” accent condemned Blinky for his flatlining salute at pmqs and told him there’s been growth and no flatlining recently. Didn’t see that coming.
There’s often been a lot of derogatory comments here about blks and blk youths in particular, and I’ve been guilty of that too, but just a moment ago on Question Time a young blk guy in a beanie hat and speaking in a “innit blud” accent condemned Blinky for his flatlining salute and told him there’s been growth and no flatlining recently. Didn’t see that coming.
There’s often been a lot of nasty comments here about bl-cks and bl-ck youths in particular, and I’ve been guilty of that too, but just a moment ago on Question Time a young bl-ck guy talking in an “innit blud” accent condemned Blinky for his flatlining salute and told him there’s been growth and no flatlining recently. Didn’t see that coming.
Nancy Dell’Oliveoil coming up on This Week in a very revealing dress.
Oh, relief- Brillo’s wearing black shoes with a grey suit.
Shows he’s not a Europhile!
“Clegg and the swivel-eyed Europhiles with their hands on the tiller…”
Clegg, Cameron, Miliband or the owl and the pussycat, a fat lot of difference it makes.
There’s none so blind as them that will not see.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15581877
When Hell freezes over, they’ll give us a referendum on EU membership.
Meanwhile here’s a little pot boiler to singe the hairs on the back of your neck:
“We are looking at opening up new ways of registering, including online registration”
Cabinet Office spokesman
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15578493
They need to find a way to get people voting ,without throwing them in jail, most people I know won’t vote, most say the same, the political parties we have are the biggest set of lieing ,currupt ,thieving, self obsessed bastards, who only thoughts are for themselves, if they force people to vote they will find another way to show how pissed off they are.
List! List! The cry’s “On-line registration”
They’re gonna computerise the nation
But the nation that they’ll computerise
Won’t be the one you can see with your eyes
Software cobbled by the Lib/Lab/Con slime?
The new voters rolls won’t be worth a dime
Co-incides with plans to pay parties £3 per vote – how convenient
Another bail out? BOHICA – “Bend over here it comes again!”.
http://news.sky.com/home/politics/article/16103041
the bumbling cable is in trouble again this time for chucking away people’s letters in his recycling bin.
haven’t these idiots heard of shredders?
Tony has.
It is quite obvvious that the Euro has failed.
It was never going to be as ‘wonderful’ as promised. We cannot afford to provide yet another ‘bail-out’ – there’s no money left. These appear precarious times, especially for the wealthy. The poor don’t matter and the rich as sure as hell are not going to go there.
I think the UK, the USA and France and Germany should invade Iran now. Yes, that’s it – Government by deflection and crude, mercenary capitalism – alternatively known as imperialism. Fuck the people, save the rich
Did Ed Balls really day his aspiration is to leave the UK ‘fit for purpose’ for his children?
What a plonker
I used to go to Greece years ago on holiday
and they hated Germans, due to them being occupied during the war
I have been in restaurants ,where the waiters could not do enough for British/Americans etc
but when Germans walked in the waiters would just stand there and ignore them untill they got up and left
after the atrocities they committed against the Greek people it makes you wonder why Greece ever wanted to go into Europe with them in the first place
Or is this payback for their crimes, by bringing down the German/French (collaborators )federal state of Europe ideal ?
By the time this whole experiment as ended the rest of Europe will feel the same away about the Krauts again.
Morning fellow window -lickers
And of course to our host
Fuck off you c’unt.
New thread available via top right access- Ed Balls 1 hour ago
Men & women ran for their lives amid scenes of panic on the streets of Liverpool earlier. Early reports suggest that a local businessman entered a JobCentre in the city at approximately 1:30 in the afternoon & announced that he would like to employ up to 20 people.
In a statement, local Labour MP Luciana Berger said; the businessman’s behaviour simply “would not be tolerated” within the city.
Meanwhile, Prime Minister,David Cameron called for claimant’s benefits to be hand delivered on silver plateaus to their home addresses in cash form, until the businessman had been apprehended & the risk of being expected to work for a living had subsided.
Osborne’s ok – he can fall back on his entire pre-politics work experience.
I’m sure there’s a call for towel folders/data inputters.