Jail For Government Credit Card Misuse
According to The Times “Dozens of civil servants have been reprimanded, cautioned or jailed after spending thousands of pounds of taxpayers’ money by misusing government credit cards.” From behind the pay-wall we learn that “at least 30 officials, of whom four have served prison sentences, fraudulently spent a total of £20,756 on government credit cards in the past five years.” Prescott must be sweating a little more than usual at this news…
Under the new transparency rules, only expenditure over £500 will be published, which means without the leak of Prezza’s whole credit card bill we would never have known about his sandwich binges, £400 taxpayer-funded chinese meals, mysterious cash withdrawals, or the £456 he spent in an Australian casino.
Why isn’t it all published down to the last public penny?
They should be treated the same as normal people, if i steal of my boss i get to visit a cell.
Morning Guido/Neo
In case you did not see it:
http://tinyurl.com/6zdmrz7
Cat
I did read it
http://order-order.com/2011/10/26/cbi-beats-tuc-at-football-now-fighting-for-right-to-hire-and-fire/#comment-1114485
Keep banging the arseholes up, Guido! Us closeted knobjockies and fellaters of all things status quo must cover each other’s rears!
What about all the cocktail sausages, sausage rolls and pies Prezza was supposed to have gorged?
Spot on Guido. You know the answer though, they also can claim for food without receipts because they use it as an additional source of income, they can get their spouse to work for them for extra income, they can claim up to £250 office expenses without receipt. I wonder how many Christmas presents, wedding gifts were given on the expense accounts of MP?? Everything should be bought against receipt. Nolan standards on public sector life should apply here.
Automatic referral to the police for dubious expense claims. Most of the 302 MPs who were overpaid or fiddled their expenses would commit the criminal offence of false accounting. Why were so few investigated let alone charged?? A policy decision by the government and Met I suggest. David Laws should be referred to the police to be investigated. If political leaders claim that everyone is subject to the law they have no reason to fear the process. It is not as if Soft on Crime Clarke will make them stay inside for very long.
Has anyone asked the police to investigate, or is that option only open to labour MPs?
Setting a £500 limit is plain stupid. You can buy a lot with £499.99. And people will, it is human nature. Laws ahould be written to prevent people falling to the greedy side of their nature.
Written Receipts for everything is the way to go plus a reason for every expense that proves it was wthin the rules. Bloody madness giving them a bank card.
Laws should be arrested and charged.
Serpent Victim: That should be ORIGINAL written receipts. I discovered a fraud going on in my outfit with some junior oik presenting photcopied duplicates for payment.
Labour and Fraud have always gone together.
There are a great many who should be arrested and charged – jacqui smith, McNulty, Hoon, Huhne, Brown, Mackay, Kirkbride, etc.,etc.
Absolutely right. When is David Laws visiting a cell and Magistrates Court? Why aren’t the Police looking at his £40,000 bung to his lover? Corruption me thinks!!!
It is not corruption, this is the way it happens in the public sector, always has, always will. Taxpayer’s money is there for we politicians to use at our discretion and we should not be subject to scrutiny on how it is spent, after all we are called Honourable and Right Honourable Gentlemen. For example when I took my Katya on three hoildays, I put it on my MP’s expenses, as the visits were part of international relations between Russia nd the UK. It was therefore money well spent. Boaz.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/280153/MP-Mike-Hancock-paid-for-his-young-spy-lover-s-trips-to-Europe-
Please produce all receipts for these foreign visits Mr Cock, and have them on my desk within 7 days.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/sep/25/ian-kennedy-expenses-parliamentary-watchdog
I am certainly not paying back the £20K a year you used to pay me for doing nothing. Especially not now you pervert.
Why are they all given credit cards anyway? If I wasn’t the boss where I worked I would be given petty cash and have to provide receipts – why has everyone got a bank card and what bank was it at????
MPs
Credit Cards
Dracula
Blood bank
They bleat on about how complicated it is. Nope. Just copy the rules of any efficient company which employs representives who have to travel widely.
and they do it a whole lot cheaper than the current lot.
The GPC cards I’ve seen were issued by NatWest
“of whom four have served prison sentences, fraudulently spent a total of £20,756 on government credit cards in the past five years.””
does this sound like MPs expenses again?
Get a few token heads ona plate then carry on as normal?
there was a story (On last thread, from the Mirror) about current ministers doing the same as Prezza (tho probaly not to same extent).
Any chance of the serious fraud squad aduiting every goverment spend/credit card/expenses for fraud/misise of public funds?
Failing that we might have to resort to the gunpowder.
Here is the link to Tory credit card story (dohnuts and pizzas).
http://bit.ly/svFUuP
If you think they have been doing the same, ask for it under a FOI request.
“Why isn’t it all published?”
You know why…
Well, as they do not publish credit card expenditures under £500, it would help if they published a total of all credit card expenditure for an individual then we would know the total expenditure for those items under £500 which may indicate a second look is needed.
We all know they still get that little book – “How to make the most of being an MP” the civil service also, once you been on the inside for 5 years, also has a document, provided by the unions, which explains all the get-outs and all the money making possibilities.
problem is getting your hands on a copy.
They’re trying to train us monkeys by various ways to stop us smoking, be green, pick up litter, be nice to politician’s etc , yet none of thes peole give a rats arse to what they do in the Palace of Westminster bubble, the times have changed politicians we now know what you think of us, we haven’t forgotten.
Politicians are the dumbest breed on the planet
they created a monster which is the EU ,but have no idea how to repair it when it goes wrong
It’s whole creation was to fund a class of people and their off spring with untold wealth paid for by the working classes of a continent
now it is falling apart the only solution they can come up with is to throw more and more money at it taken from the same people
the only people to benefit from all this is yet again the banks who are now enjoying yet another bail out
I spent £81 in Pizza Hut , It were a gert scoff that were !
I think I’d part with £81 to be allowed out of Pizza Hut without being forced to eat something.
Look I don’t care what John did.
He let me get on with my satanic mission of selling Britain in exchange for a lucrative career as a merchamt bank door opener. he didn’t interfere with me. And I didn;t interfere with his grotesque gluttony and sexual harrassment of any female under the age of 60.
I’m a pretty straight kinda guy, yer know.
Prezza can interfere with me as much as he likes!
The only reason to take cash out on your credit card is if you want to spend it somewhere that you do not want to appear on the statement – casinos, strip clubs or knocking shops. Since Prezza didn’t seem to have any qualms about using the card in a casino it kind of begs the question what was done with the cash. There are certainly plenty of strip clubs in Sydney.
Does the statement say where the cash was taken out – if it was Kings Cross / Darlinghurst then establishments with scantily clad or even unclad ladies are close at hand.
It costs lots of money to jail people. Bring back transportation.
To the mainland EU
Why dont we pay to have prisons built out in places like India and China………..The cost to have them built and run will be a fraction of the price if we did it over here……………Ship them out and let them know what prison is all about…………
Pardon?
Keep on at this fat sack of shit Guido. This useless oxygen thief and corrupt gobshite does need humiliating. And prosecuting if he has broken the law.
Seconded
The group with the balls to start a real revolution, that is all I am waiting for. I’d start it but I know no one else would follow.
A few rogue exceptions do not a scandal make! The issue of those cards were to ensure stationary & office supplies could be purchased online or over the phone & cut out the expensive ‘red tape’ (& huge overhead costs) of supplier sending an invoice & having a long laborious process to get 1 invoice paid at great expense.
Private businesses just have an admin person who deals with all of this and buys wholesale, on credit. There are plenty of companies that will supply you with all your stationery or office supplies and it is much more economic and effective than having members of staff independently ordering bits and bobs.
Only in the public sector is paying an invoice a “long laborious process” carried out “at great expense”.
I find it frankly astounding that your justification for providing an organisation’s employees with the means to defraud the taxpayer is that selfsame organisation’s own idleness and incompetence.
Fine. So publish the credit card statements. They are, after all, only used for legitimate purchases necessary for them to do their work. Aren’t they?
Fine by me, I would happily see them all published.
The question remains as to how this will be followed up. I’m not holding my breath given the extent to which the taxpayer has been screwed to date. Jack ‘accountancy has never been my strongest point’ Straw being one such example. Prezza Manger will just bluster and say he thought it was all ‘within the rules’. Same old same old…
and Dromey of I don’t know what happens with the finances, I’m just the treasurer.
and he’s female for the purpose of election. Fcuking ladyboy.
Who spends over 2 grand in Pret? That is a lot of coffee and sandwiches.
Still no news from Brussels then.
I fear an ill wind from Brussels. Usually by Boxing Day when there is no dog around to blame.
So they will be able to get away with £499 a day for, say, 228 working days a year. That’s £113,772. Not bad.
Sir Bill see 23 below
The reason that a lot of the total amounts on the credit cards are not shown, is the old one used by all politicos and chief executives of companies, even though their record is dismal, “Because we are worth it”
Partly on topic:
A director of a company is nothing special. Banks are full of this type of director. They can have large offices, cars, salaries and bonus packages but, in the end, they are no more than glorified employees. Their egos often eclipse their abilities.
A director of a company in which he is a major shareholder, having built it up from scratch, is a truly remarkable person. Here is someone who has to be taken seriously. Also, this type takes risks with his own money, not other peoples’.
Cat old chap I totally agree with you on that point, trouble is it only needs one of the deluded ones (often blinded by cronies praise) to get control of a company and value goes out of it and they still get massive pensions and pay offs.
Im one of those second types. But theres no need to take me seriously, Im shit at running my business and I make fuck all money. The only advantage is that I pay fuck all tax.
At least I don’t have a boss who is a total c*u*n*t though….
Politics is stuffed full of the first type as well.
The second type cannot afford the time to poke their noses into other peoples’ business. They have their own to attend to.
As a one time bag-carrier for the CEO of a major listed group, I can explain that the main activity of a senior director is schmoozing with representatives of the shareholders. Not the shareholders themselves, but the jerks from insurance companies, pension funds and investment banks–they too are just employees and incredibly impressed by Wimbledon and Twickenham tickets, Glynbourne, Ascot and expensive booze-ups. Being whisked on the company plane to observe a “management conference” in Sardinia don’t half focus their minds when it comes to endorsing the recommendations of remuneration commitees. The class of professional non-executive directors are cross-matched across dozens of FTSE 500 companies ensuring that, in the main, they are complaisant to the whims of CEOs and chairmen. Serious business decisions are led by consultants, outside agencies, lawyers and accountants who, should they recommend that the top-end scroungers be fired, tend to lose their contracts.
Powerful points.
There seems to come a point in the lives of some businesses when they can either choose to stick to their original activity, or start playing the Great Game. In the first, by using the age-old principles of looking after their customers, charging fairly for their products or services, and being tough on expenditure they can carry on quietly adding to the sum of human worth for decades. In the latter, they fall prey to the old evil of hubris, by building a huge, swish head office, getting obsessed with ‘business procedure’ instead of just getting on with it, and trying to go one better than the competition in the show-off stakes. They quite often become a take-over target or suddenly go bust.
All down to the basic human weakness of wanting to be seen to be better than the next guy. Keeping up with the Joneses, but with the shareholders’ money.
RBS to a tee
Why are the FooTSE’s top 100 bosses getting a 47% ave. rise?
Because their pay rise is unrepresentative?
Or are they charged with doing the “difficult work” of axing workers, rehiring those with odd accents at slave-wage rates, asset stripping – even church roof stripping (ha ha!)
Why bother about the elves and minions who splurged on a manicure or Pret-Ordeure?
Apart from the banks partly in public ownership, the top 100 bosses have their shareholders to answer to. Your “elves and minions” are stealing our taxpayers money.
I hate this expression but you may just understand it:
SIMPLES.
Sir Martin Sorrell nearly leapt through the screen and punched the Sky chappy back in the studio for stating that performane related pay does not actually improve the profitability of a firm.
I’m all for paying a good chap a good wage but it is now getting ridiculous. This is no longer about loyalty to a firm or planning the long term well being of a firm, it is now about instant gratification and then moving on.
Greed Greed Greed.
Unfortunately company loyalty to staff lower down the chain has gone out of the window as well. At the first sign of trouble companies start shedding staff as quickly as possible. I understand why they do this but they can’t expect staff loyalty to the firm in return.
I was watching hm on the BBC. It is a disgrace that the interviewer kept interupting him and eventually he was cut off in full flow. I would really have like to have heard his side of the story–he usually talks a lot of sense, which is more than the BBC w*nker did.
Unfortunately greed is inherent in in our nature. We cannot erase it, we can only control it which is a role we entrust to government through elections. Our governments ‘ idea of control is to delegate it to a quango, pay them well and forget about it. Sadly, those quangos, left to their own devices, fall prey to the very practices they are paid to police. I can understand that – the benefits are huge and the penalties are either trivial or non-existent.
In recent history …
MPs’ expenses – a few token scapegoats while many are exonerated and some are even rewarded.
Lords – ditto.
Bankers – a few slapped wrists, but, financially evey one a winner – and the obscene salaries and bonuses continue to grow.
FSA – classic case of fiddling while Rome burns but all members did very nicely – for themselves.
PCC/Met – another Rome burning case. One rogue case, nothing to see here, move along now.
Ofgem – There is no cartel. Yeah right.
Will any of us ever forget names like Sir ( wtf) Fred Goodwin or Sharon Shoesmith, both effectively rewarded for misdeed.
Most of these might possibly have been avoided if our regulators regulated . But they don’t, so the next scandal is just around the corner.
Our ‘honourable members’ repeatedly assure us that ‘lessons will be learned’.
When?
A chilly but bright start across much of the U.K. & sunshine remaining for most this afternoon. However a cloudy day for SE England with light rain/drizzle at times. Fog patches lingering, mainly around the Midlands, eastern Wales & SW England. The NW of Scotland & Ireland will have showers today and breezy condtions. xx
Just out of interest , watching the idiot rusty at the Commonwealth meeting why did Britian decide it the being up the arse of Europe and getting screwed daily was a better bet than being in the Commonwealth of newly rich nations as it’s head, were the people who decided this and continue to make these bad decisions on some sort of hallucinatry drugs or pure greed
Osborne’s empty vainglorious rhetoric on Europe says it all…they will defend to the last drop of blood Britain’s national interest….so I guess that means the “Tobin tax” will be introduced 1 January 2013 and the City of London will be controlled from Frankfurt before the next election…keep the pressure on Cameron
https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/20133
+10
I will never understand why we need to be in the EU at a net cost to us of £10billion annually. All this twaddle about needing them for exports. They export to us too and the trade would keep going both ways regardless of whether we were in or out of the EU.
But more importantly the big emerging markets now are china, india and brazil and we don’t need to be in the eu to export to them.
Who get’s to decide what’s in the national interest. If the people want out of the EU who are Dave and George to say no?
Nell the two main reasons for our membership of the EU are as follows. The continuation of failed or stalled careers for our deadbeat politicos. Welfare payments to support our inefficient agricultural industry.
Sorry Britain is a net contributor to the CAP – it’s just self-aggrandisment for failed politicians like Kinnock.
why cant we see the signatories on these e-petitions. Or have i missed a link sonewhere?
Any comment on thatchers £500,000 for public speaking (must have missed that) and public engagements over the last 5 years?
Expected it of Blair but disappointed in maggie.
Let the dissembling and pathetic excuses begin……
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Any comment on tha.tchers £500,000 for public speaking (must have missed that) and public engagements over the last 5 years?
Expected it of Blair but disappointed in maggie.
Let the dissembling and pathetic excuses begin……
Silly boy. The word is spe*king. Some people never learn.
It would be wonderful to see the oversize Prescott sent to jail, and serve labours “full sentence”.
Gloria del Piero was in a pickle last night on QT when pressed by Dimbleby. Her eyelids flashed faster than a humming bird’s wings she was so stressed. She was just typical of labour, more concerned about political point scoring than seriously answering questions. Dumbed down labour!
De Piero was a bit of a disaster last night. Personally I was disappointed – having only previously seen photos of her – to discover that she has a grating ee-bah-gum voice and not much in the way of intellect.
She was more “Loose Women” than “Question Time”, to be honest.
she’d be out of her depth on Loose Women
Ah, Gloria del Piero! Labour actually have some worthwhile Totty at last. Pity that she’s as thick as pigshit though. There must be something better to do with that lovely mouth other than let her talk drivel with it.
She is stupid as fuck !
fairs fair … a sub of the day isnt going to satisfy an obvious gourmet like prezza. Only the very finest and largest volumes of food will do!
Gloria del Piero is a former GMTV presenter. Nuff said.
So can we have a full publication of everything prezza spent that credit card on whilst he was in office?
What was the absolute £total that he stole from us with it?
Will he be made to pay it back?
Will he be receiving a dawn visit from an officer of the law? And when?
It is an absolute fact the the people can vote in other people who would prosecute Prescott
Eet werz nert me nor Frau Murky yew knoww. Wee were nert in poweur een 2001. Eet werz all zeez Greeks oo lied to erse. Ow were we to knoww thet? Oweverr, we have now sorted eet out and ze peeble of Yewrerp weel be paying fer un very lerng tahm. Au revoir mes poulets.
Must be the only History student who didn’t understand what the Cenotaph stood for.
Daft bugger.
Notice to the investment bankers who loaned money to Greece . Should have read the small print . “The value of your investment may go down as well as up”!
Oh no it won’t Not while there are Mug Tax Payers to pick up there losses
without anyway to say NO, oh forget its called Democracy !!
I thought jobs for life were finished.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/thatcher-cost-taxpayers-163535000-in-past-five-years-2376986.html
As she doesn’t attend any public events , she must answer a fucking shit load of letters !
No Prescott’s sandwiches are a much bigger issue. Apparently.
Why are we surprised? There’s only one reason for getting elected – to make money. As for the Civil Servants, there’s only one reason to be one – to get paid handsomely for not doing anything productive.
Hi peeps just off to Perth for another photo opp (and slap up nosh )
Europe is falling apart and on the brink of bankruptcy our country is being swamped with immigrants, unemployment is rising ,we print money for fun to give to the banks to pay their bonuses infact the shithole is going down the pan rapid
but i’m here today to discuss a very important issue that’s on everybody’s mind
if Kate Middletons unconceived child is a girl ,whether or not it can become queen
as a world leader i just love taking the big decisions , In Your Face Blair !
What else would you expect?
LAbour and gorging go toether.
Labour have always been corrupt, it’s what they do!
Labour are corrupt it’s what they are.
Old Rotten Moran is up at Southwark today. Should be quite a spectacle based on last time. Oh, the froth, the vomit.
Prezza’a feasting must be exposed.
How many calories did Prezza consume when in power?
Prezza in power? One suspects that he was carefully kept away from any real power.
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Was Prezza taxed on his calorie consumption as this would have been additional to his salary?
“And given that she has dementia, the decision to claim the money wouldn’t have come from her personally but her staff.”
exactly as predicted just one post above yours.
well done
Guido
Get the boys at the Sunlight Centre to go after the fat fuck.
ta
I’m going into HOTTT PURSUITTT!
Don’t forget these MP’s voted themselves £25 per day NO RECEIPTS required, Plus £4000 Loan for Expenses, Interest Free & Tax Free which might have tob repaid later.
Also they still have the BEST pension scheme going, with BERCOW still getting his Solid Gold Pension & refusing to allow any change.
These so called Elected Representatives should ALL be kicked out @ next GE & of course they will get a nice Tax Free Sum of OUR Money when they are.
VOTE UKIP !
You’ll be amazed what I can get for me and Traycee to eat for £499 a pop.
What a troughing turd.
I notice that Thatcher has received over half a million pounds in “expenses” over the last five years – just because she used to be a prime minister. What were these “expenses” for? If you read the various articles condemning John Prescott you will notice that he wasn’t present when the credit card was used. And anyway – dinner for five comes to at least £500 in a casino.
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