Exclusive: Eustice Launches In / Out Wrecking Amendment
This just hit the inboxes of every Tory MP. Eustice was Cameron’s former Press Secretary, so you know it’s from the top:
Many colleagues have asked whether it would be possible to consider amending the current motion on an EU referendum next Monday so that is more closely reflects the views of the majority of the parliamentary party while being consistent with the intention behind the petition we have received. A number of us have submitted the following amended motion which I hope you might consider supporting:
“This House calls upon the Government to publish a White Paper during the next session of parliament setting out the powers and competences that the Government would seek to repatriate from the EU, to commence a renegotiation of Britain’s relationship with the EU and to put the outcome of those negotiations to a national referendum.”
In the meeting that we held early in September, there was a strong consensus among colleagues that the EU is now an issue that unites rather than divides Conservatives and that, now we are in government, front benchers and back benchers should work together to deliver a fresh start in our relationship with the EU. This amendment is consistent with the coalition agreement which gave a clear commitment to examine the competences of the EU which a White Paper setting out a renegotiating position would fulfil. The advantage of having a referendum after the renegotiation rather than before is that the public would then be able to judge whether or not the government had succeeded and this would put pressure on the government to negotiate forcefully.
There is no guarantee that this amendment would be called and I should also point out that, despite being consistent with the coalition agreement, it is not yet supported by the government. However, they have given an undertaking to consider their position over the next few days and take on board representations received. I would therefore urge any backbench MPs who feel closer to this motion than the one currently tabled to add their names to it. Likewise, I would urge any front bench MP who would like the opportunity to vote in favour of the motion rather than be ordered to follow Ed Miliband through the voting lobbies to make their views known to the Prime Minister’s office.
Anyone who would like to add their name to the list must do so before 3pm tomorrow (Friday). If you are not in London, please email my office. We will be trying to arrange for someone to table names on behalf of those who are absent. If you want to help and happen to be in London, please let me know.
George Eustice MP
Member of Parliament for Camborne, Redruth and Hayle
House of Commons, London, SW1A 0AA
Is that the sound of the long grass rustling…?
I want the referendum ASAP!
Men and women of Cornwall get writing to Eustice to ask the heck he is thinking about, whether he has been bribed with a job offer by Cameron and Co and that you want him to vote for a referendum not an amendment.
Cameron claims today he is proud of the UKs involvement- he acted outside of the UN resolution. The resolution did not mandate for regime change, help the rebels catch and kill Gaddafi, help rebels on the ground to win THEIR battle NOT ours. As I recall Cameron claimed we are in dire fiscal circumstance, there is a lot more to do in Afghanistan and he wanted to engage in another war that was nothing to do with the UK. On the other hand he is happy to make our brave military personnel redundant and join with the French to make a EU fighting force. According to Cameron we cannot even afford an aircraft carrier nor an independent military to defend our shores and interests. Cameron needs to go ASAP. Don’t believe a word he says.
So why haven’t they already prepared a white paper on the matter? They’ve been talking about it for ages.
Ah yes, the fuck the electorate, we’re going to lie to get elected.
Dear George
F U C K O F F
The Public
+60,000,000+
Dear Public
FUCK OFF
David Cameron,
I am in charge and you will never get a referendum so I will tell you all again
FUCK OFF FUCK OF AND ONCE MORE FUCK OFF
+1
To celebrate my dazzling victory in Libya Gideon, William, David Laws and I are going on a huge bender tonite. That’s right, we’re having Liam around!
Ow Cast Iron Dave
F U C K. Y O U……. YOU ARE TOAST
The Public
Dear Bastards…
We are watching you, and will vote accordingly.
We simply don’t believe ANY of you any more.
Give us the say you ALL promised us, you shits.
Kind Regards.
As Cameron said…
“The best way to get that referendum is to vote Conservative…”
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Lying shitbag.
We shall see, won’t we?
There will never be a referendum under this government.
The result would be a resounding vote against membership.
However, a referendum is against the interests of the political class.
Democracy must sort out this issue before the men in black shirts start marching.
civil war in the UK within 2 years, that’s what someone was told in the Italian government. This is what the agenda is, it may seem far fetched but if pitting us all against each other British vs immigrants, EDL vs Muslims, Scots vs English. If all this leads to violence then they can impose curfews and even martial law with perhaps foreign troops on British soil. There’s foreign riot police in Greece so who can say it won’t happen here?
Dave seems quite sure of things here. Just a pity he has no shame. http://t.co/FHBnwttS
Dint give them an inch , filthy bastards
Dear Mr. Wavy Davy,
Democracy is good enough for your chums in Libya, why is it not good enough for the people of your own country?
Yours,
M. Crescent.
I fu–ing Told you. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. WAKE UP
Shouldn’t that be should be ‘refereesbum’?
Yes, Hague will be attending because he has to return a favour for the cover up for his sexuality innuendos with a SPad. Fox will not attend for fear of further action against him and Cameron will bribe other key players. He has misjudged the polls if he thinks that being above Milipede means he will be safe at the next election. I am starting to feel guilty about Gordon Brown. Clegg and Cameron make him look good.
UKIP for me just to piss them off. At least they will give me something I want.
DLLDF
I’ve written to my lobby fodder and told him I would not vote for him again if he votes against and to his probable successor after the boundry changes. UKIP for me too if they vote against democracy.
Me too… joined up in June and it’s the best £20 I ever spent.
referendum next monday would be good. Sooner would be better.
George you are my MP. I even voted for you. This utter shit means one less vote next time.
Examine every penny of expenses he ever spends. Draw up a list all his acquaintanceships, friends, business dealings, public statements, engagements, however trivial. Eventually you will find what it is that made him into the shameless, unpatriotic, undemocratic, supine mong he has shown himself up as having become today.
Point of Order. An individual MP cant table an amendment to a motion that has already been proposed in these particular circumstances. As this is neither a Government Bill or Private members bill Eustice has to shove off. Anybody care to venture an opinion?
My opinion is that the public couldn’t give a rat’s ass about the finer points of order in a matter like this. They simply see active efforts by undemocratic elements attempting to stifle the expression of the public’s opinion through a vote on a matter of national importance.
The fix is already in: 5 Live reporter states this is a subject of interest only to a nerdy minority’.
In other news, UEA vindicated after Climategate: global warming since the 1950 is already of the order of one degree celsius – Huhne can breathe a little easier.
If there is general agreement that Parliament has to debate the motion that was in the petition, then the ‘Honourable’ member is taking the piss out of each and every one of us.
If they stitch us up on this, they forfeit any claim to legitimacy as they are conniving in signing away the sovereignty they are bound by oath to uphold.
I wasn’t going to bother going on Saturday, but I shall be there to add to the numbers, and maybe laugh at the crusties and assorted idiots outside St Pauls on the way home…
My name is Kipper Cameron I’m an arsehole and a snob
I promised referendums untill I got my job
Throughout the last election you believed my CAST IRON vow
But I don’t give a fuck for you, I’m the PM now
I am all for the EU I think there realy great
And if they want your money I will hand it on a plate
I will not fight their burocrats, or cut back immigration
I will do my utmost to fuck the British Nation
So forget your Rule Britania that was prosperous and free
Forget when you could speak your mind I demand PC
I know a million immigrants in Britain are employed
Whilst all our youth are on the dole and I am overjoyed
SO FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just think Cameron is quite happy to send young men to die fighting for democracy in Afganistan but when it comes to democracy in the UK he wont allow a referendum
No wonder they call him Kipper, two faced and no guts
Time for our own Ghaddaffi moment with these treasonous c u n t s! OUT! NOW!!
Did someone say “Long grass”?
Get the mower out.
Latet anguis in herba.
Damn – read that as ‘agnus’ and got all excited!
(For our uneducated Bucky swillers, that was a sheep-shagging joke in Latin.)
It’s not too late for a bit of stubble burning.
Quite so.
Wasn’t he in the Daily Mirror as a cartoon? Useless Eustice? Although I suppose he is a useful idiot for the Euroweenies.
http://www.politicalcartoon.co.uk/gallery/artist/greenall-jack-1905-1983_41.html
Anybody got any pig lipstick?
This is not good enough, we want in/out, hokey cokey. No whipping.
neat work if you like that sort of disengenous manipulation
Don’t see what the problem with that amendment is, better to win a vote on that than lose one on an in/out referendum.
Gadaffi gone whose next? Maybe someone close at home?
Politicians seem to be often found in shit filled holes.
This is how the europlastic stooges set up by Cameron works isnt it? Any possible way to squirm out of taking a real genuine stand and the europlastics are right in there. Useless EUstice is as eurosceptical as Von Rumpoy, the entire reason for his euroslime lickspittle stooge outfit is to attempt to silence and destroy any demand for a referendum.
This is how the Quisling Cameron works, the dirty tricks and the cynical ploys to deny the British people their right to decide their own future, the tragedy is that hundreds of euroslime Tory MPs will eagerly support the Quisling regime. The Quisling regime is determined to prevent the British people having their say on their future, they are petrified that we would say NO to the united states of Europe.
If Cameron thinks we will fall for this blatant trick he is sorely mistaken.
Of course he knows we won’t “fall for it”. But our view is of no interest; it’s just a matter of manipulating sheep MPs. The sheeple have now got sheep to “represent” them.
Until our nation’s Parliamentarians grow up and start representing the people, he will not only treat them like idiots he will enjoy doing so. Flashman types need standing up to, and as for their odious toady pals – time for a bog wash after lights out.
Our politicians are either bribed or blackmailed NOT to represent us.
Nothing short of a root and branch clear out of the whole thieving corrupt establishment is going to change anything.
The toxic nexus of politicians and vested interests must be smashed.
“Nothing short of a root and branch clear out of the whole thieving corrupt establishment is going to change anything.”
Yeah, right, that’s going to happen!
The sheep voted against/ignored the first and only chance to change the voting system in this country and now we are stuck with this one.
An MPs allegiance is to the Party first, because then there is a chance of promotion and a better job. Then they might think about the country unless a lobbyist appears with an open cheque book.
Keep dreaming.
Since the change to the voting system would INCREASE the power of parties, I fail to get your point….
Camborne, Redruth and Hayle is awash with EU money and the EU flag flies over dozens of building.
The EU “money” has been extorted from others.
Time for a Robin Hood to take back from a thieving state.
Indeed. One of the conditions of receiving such “grants” is the absolute requirement to display the EU ring of stars swastika and blurb in prominent places.
Nothing new here. Same as before but different flag.
Seems fair and not a “wrecking amendment” but allowing the government to stick to the coalition agreement without wasting £100m at a time when there is (to quote Baldemort) no money left”. It would also help stop the civil war in the Tory party.
How much do we give the EU per day/week/year?
14 billion a day
its £4bn a year.
£14bn a day would mean £5110bn a year despite the fact the entire spend for the UK is £750bn
£14 billion a year or £40 million a day going up to £60 million day in 2012. Cameron still claims we are in dire fiscal circumstance, he wastes a further £11.5 billion on overseas aid and yet the UK cannot afford an independent military to defend the country!!! Another innumerate from the Oxbridge PPE school of dunces. Alternatively he has too much money to consider ordinary adding up.
The simple fact is that a dispassionate, honest cost/benefit analysis of our “membership” of the EU has been repeatedly blocked.
Considering the oft mentioned “obvious benefits” and the amount of money flowing, you really have to ask yourself why this is.
We give £12bn but get £8bn back (figures from the IFS) so £4bn a year, less than 1% of the budget. Also that isn’t extra money, this referendum is extra money at time when the country is hurtling towards a recession.
£4Billion ongoing v one off 100 million?
BILLY, THE ONS AND GOVERNMENT CANNOT AGREE WHAT THE UK CONTRIBUTION IS. Blair gave some of the UK rebate back in the hope of change to the CAP (official version although some think it was to get the EU president job). Money was handed back with nothing in return.
@david
I want a referudum, i want out, but i was arguing the point (Using gee gee figures) of a one off payment 100 million (cost of referendum) V 4 Billion ongoing till after next election ( Per year).
if you are told you cannot have a bypass operation because all the money has been given away console yourself with the thought it was only one percent of GDP we gave away.
Those IFS figures are bullshit.
Our nett contribution (Open Europe figures – 2007-2013 EU budget) is around 8 billion a year at the moment, since Blair halved our rebate.
The referendum would cost two and a half days’ worth of EU contributions.
If we’re ‘hurtling towards a recession’ then a referendum looks pretty good value before we are asked to stump up yet more money to bail out Zorba, Diego, Paddy et al.
+1
How come we can’t have a referendum on the EU (which every party promised), but we can have one on AV (which no party promised, and which nobody wanted)?
We give £12bn but get £8bn back
They decide how that 8Billion is spent though.
How much VALUE we get from that 8Billion is probably vastly less.
We’re being screwed over however you cut the figures and the fact that no one can actually tell you a firm figure just proves it, smoke and mirrors ju ju men stuff.
Why is it wrong to put before the electorate the most important long term political issue in 100 years? We simply want the debate and then the chance for out voice to be heard, if those who want to us out the EU lose the vote then that’s fine at least we’ll know that the majority of people want the EU at the moment no one really knows that, it needs a referendum.
Yet the main political parties can’t see that the refusal just continues to confirm what most people think of our politicians as a bunch lying, self-serving fantasists who have no interest other than increasing their bank balance and having their weird egos stroked.
If the motion fails it will be a dark day for our already weak democracy
Stop sniping from the sidelines and asking stupid questions, get off your fat arse and put yourself forward, you useless c unt.
Please, do take it personally.
EU bill to UK 28.5 million a day. Leave EU and repay “wasting £100m” in 4 days. That’s value for money. What did the EU do for you today?
Sent my blood pressure soaring.
1. Increased my taxes
2. Brainwashed my children via school and the main stream media
3. Ruined my town with mass immigration
4. Allowed a local murderer to get off scot-free
5. Funded left-wing propaganda groups disguised as charities and quangos
6. Made me feel like a foreigner in my own country
7. Given votes to thugs robbers pedos rapists and murderers
8. Curtailed free speech
9. Stopped me having a ciggy with a pint after a hard days work in my local pub
10. None politically correct talk is now a hate crime and you can be jailed for speaking your mind.
11. Almost convinced me my family and my friends that we’re all small minded little Englander bigoted racist types not worthy to breathe the same air as the enlightened progressive politically correct hand wringing liberal lefty European Union deities our main stream media cock sucking luvvies seem to worship.
12. Destroyed my family’s fishing business of 260 years.
But that’s just me, what do I know?
You know the same as me………….and multi-milliom others, Get out now.
*Huge fucking appaluse*
*Huge fucking appaluse* + 1
Eeerm, you’ll find brits in the EU actually helped come up with many of these lamented laws.
Interesting that you think that obeying the will of the electorate is ‘wasting £100m’. Nothing worse than wasting voters’ money on their concerns, is there?
£100m is about the cost of a week’s Libyan bombing for Cameron’s illegal war.
Why was it illegal?
dont you mean the nato led rebel war ?
For info it cost america 1,000 million dollars a week to procecute the war in iraq. Of course this reduced to 700 million dollars a week after 18 months.
Treasury figs.
Fuck the Tory party! We voted for them and we didn’t get what we wanted so fuck them thrice, say I!
Does anyone know if there is any reason why a new petition could not be submitted asking for a free vote on the same subject. Assuming CMD succeeds in perverting democracy and his own petition gimmick.
Good idea.
Brilliant. Play the bastards at their own game.
Don’t forget MPs were watching you, especially on Monday, you decide and then we decide, we can wait, when you think we’ve forgotten then watch the internet at work.
Shame he’s not my local consituency MP.
If he were working to ensure that he wasn’t re-elected would give me something to do in the years up to the next election.
Do it anyway. 15 mins a day can achieve quite a lot
This is exactly why the voters despise politicians.
They really loathe, hate and abhor them. Only there for their own financial benefit. This is corruption at its worst.
No better than whores,rapist and murderers, every single one of them.
What a fool I was to fall for that c u n t cameron but never again
UKIP for me
While I sympathise with you, there must be more than just greed that compels MPs to defy the will of the people and stick resolutely to EU advocacy.
What is it? Are they wiser and really believe we must benefit from membership? Or are they under some inducement?
What is it? I’m really curious to know. Can anyone enlighten me? Surely, knowing the mood of the electorate, there must be some mileage in being at least a Euro-sceptic, if not downright hostile. And yet you just know that they will wriggle out of even the blandest referendum. Why do they do it????
A fundamentally, untrusting and base opinion of thier fellow countrymen? Some kind of desire to betray everyone and get their own back for something that went wrong in their childhoods?
Yes, and probably the underlying belief that they are simply unemployable outside of politics.
They want their eventual EU wank-jobs on the public expense, or at the very least, short-term they’ll obey the party hierarchy who will get the EU jobs post their parliament career.
From the 3 politcos I’ve had contact with in recent years the answer is they do not actually think most people should have the vote. They truely think they are some form of higher life that has access to greater wisdom. Most of our MPS are not democrats at heart, the system lets them make the right noises, but in reality the structure of the EU is more to their taste. We will end up with national elections that are meaningless but the real power will be ‘delegated’ from the enlarged EU political structures. That is why they support it they fear the people, they hate elections and see them as ‘getting in the way’ of doing the real work! We are moving closer to the edn of democracy than we think.
That was enormously unfair on whores. They are honest women making an honest trade.
I do think their choice of trade is not good for their own mental and physical health, nevertheless, they do not deserve to be included amongst those bunch of bastards.
You don’t get me I’m part of the union,
Till the day I die, till the day I die.
Come on Billy where’s the Strawbs song?
Working on it Giudo ….
I’m all in a tizzy now the pressures on. Here ya goes, Guido. Please don’t sack me master.
Only a weird Hunt would piss take someone for being a time wasting twat by being a time wasting twat
G-r-r-eat post, I’ll think you’ll agree, pop-pickers?
Here’s another up-tempo ditty from that pop-tastic beat-combo, ladies and gentlemen:
I give you The Strawbs:
Ooops.
Fuck that. Here we go :
Get with it, Frank. How thick can one graduate be, FFS?
Very thick, evidently.
Thanks for that. I’d totally forgotten about tie-dye.
As a watch pervert I clocked two classic Rolexs on thoese unwashed front bottoms
A have the same one as the peanister tucked away in my hoard
The so-called compromise question is a pointless exercise full of ifs and buts – the only way there can be any renegotiation and repatriation of powers is if we actually leave the EU, (we’ve already been told in no uncertain terms by Brussels that there will be no renegotiation), otherwise we’ll be in exactly the same position as with the “votes for prisoners” fiasco.
That’s why we need the plain and simple In/Out referendum promised by all three main political parties in their manifestos, (or perhaps I should say Books of Lies), and anything other than that is mere cosmetic political whitewash to hoodwink the sheeple.
Useless Eustice and his bunch of Europlastics are no better than that Europhile slime, Pinko Dave!
The De Eustaces,,,,,,,,,
Murdering Norman French Scum
The adverts are quite psychedelic.
Far more corruption around now than ever wherever you look
Our Parliament
Our Politicians
FIFA
UEFA
IOC
power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely
In the 60′s we only had the UK parliament
Just look at what we have now.
You forgot the EU and the kinnochios who are a form of corruption all on their own!!
I am your champion against corruption. By the way when MI5 come to arrest me after they have deported my dear Katya, they will find that I am a brilliant double agent, although I haven’t told them yet.
The original letter in full:
Useless – send this out or I’ll set the bally dogs on you. They’re still wound up from the Fox hunt last week.
Dave.
Right wing political blogger,Guido Fawkes says even though Gaddafi was an odious dictator and a thorn in the side of Western countries for three decades, for the majority of Libyans their quality of life was perfectly fine.
“They’ve had free education, free health, they could study abroad. When they got married they got a certain amount of money. So they were rather the envy of many other citizens of African countries. Now, of course, since NATO’s humanitarian intervention the infrastructure of their country has been bombed back to the Stone Age. They will not have the same quality of life. Women probably will not have the same degree of emancipation under any new transitional government. The national wealth is probably going to be siphoned off by Western corporations. Perhaps the standard of living in Libya might have been slightly higher than it perhaps is now in America and the UK with the recession,” she said.
Guido Fawkes agrees the US have been quite unashamed in their statements about wanting regime change in Libya, which he believes is highly illegal.
“It is also interesting to see that they are saying this openly when, of course, in the 1990s they were trying to assassinate him covertly through proxy organizations in Libya,” he said. NATO countries have sent advisors to Libya and Guido Fawkes believes that it was done to insure that humanitarian aid and human rights are upheld. However that might prove to be difficult. He says that nobody seems to be really trying to protect civilians in Benghazi or Sirte. Advisors or not, “Libya is descending into one awful mess.”
Yep, it’s a dictatorship for me every fucking time mate.
So one spinning whore asking another to do him a favour
Wiki “On leaving Cameron’s office, George Eustice worked for Portland Communications, a public affairs company.[9] In September 2009, PR Week magazine published a “Soapbox” article by Eustice on the future of Public Relations. At that time he was still Associate Director of Portland.[10]”
These people represent no one
As long as I am paid, I will spin anything for anyone
Spin all you like, but you won’t find anyone who will ever take you seriously again.
Someone should send the two motions to Private Eye’s “Lookalikes”.
HELP ME !!!!
Can anyone explain why Cameron is deliberately driving away loyal supporters like me in their droves ????
WTF are his SpAd’s doing ???? They obviously aren’t telling him that he’s being a right fooking asswipe and destroying who support he has gained.
He’s fucking clueless !
He doesn’t care. The greater the slings and arrows the greater the rewards from his admiring European Masters when the time comes for rewarding all those traitors from all of the European member countries who’ve sold their respective populations into the slavery of the EU.
Dave: ‘Gauleiter for Life’ of the EU Eastern region formerly known as Great Britain.
Silly me. Can’t tell my left from my right. WESTERN. (Comes from having been transplanted to the upside-down Antipodes)
Because you embarrass him and he knows you have nowhere else to go.
Will you Cum Dansing with me George ?
Three lines and a whip?
You try stopping me!
More BBC staff than protestors at Dale Farm
http://tgr.ph/p4P0U0
Glad I don’t pay the telly tax!
It’s not unique. The Mafia run on a similar funding system.
Great quiz question, what has Glastonbury got in common with Dale Farm?
This obvious delaying tactic is just adding fuel to the flames George. We are your bosses, don’t forget that!
Ha! anybody care to put that wrecking motion into plain English.
And no eustace for those of us who want a referendum, you know a say of our own, it simply won’t do!!!
Trust in meeee, trust in meee etc
Nell, how’s your love affair with Cameron going? Still think he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread? How can you continue to support such a duplicitous bastard? He from the same mould as Blair – say one thing, do another. Still going to vote for him at the next election?
might still vote tory Cynical – doesn’t need to be cameron as leader.
tories are ruthless. leader fails – get rid and get another one.
problem with labour leaders is that they hang on well past their sell by date because, like gaddafi, no-one can dislodge them without a huge fight.
if cameron fails over this eu thing and elector support sugnificantly declines – tory knives will be out tout suite. Issue then is who takes over?
No. The man is a coward and a traitor. Off with his head say I.
As I move from No 10 Downing Street
To my Club, Whites, in Saint James Street
To my Government mansion, Chequers,
To my country mansion in Oxfordshire
And my wife’s family stately home
I sometimes feel that “we are all in this together”
RO Fucking FL
To be fair, we ARE all in the shit together, except those who aren’t.
Don’t tell Guido
But I am a Whig cross dressed as a Luvvie
You can see that I am false from A to Z in my ever more Fray Bentos face
I promise you this, if you give me 12 billion I will give you back a whopping 9 billon!
Do as a Luther (Martin not Lex) and nail the picture linked below to the doors of EU Parliament building in Brussels and tell them to f*ck off!!!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/HMS_Vanguard_April_1994.jpg
Just curious, but does some poor seasick rating have to skate along the deck and lower the flag before the sub dives?
Two tweety things from Peston (ptcheww) which are probably relevant:
SARKOZY, MERKEL AGREED EUROZONE NEEDS COMMON ECONOMIC GOVERNANCE AND MORE ECONOMIC INTEGRATION”. Let’s see what that means in practice
Statement from Merkel and Sarkozy is extraordinary – says they can’t agree on e’zone rescue this weekend, but promise they will agree soon
Countries in the EU are too different for the politicians toy called the Euro.
Therefore the people must be homogenised so the political class can keep amused.
After the uprising of the 17th of June
The Secretary of the Writers Union
Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
Stating that the people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?
B Brecht
“Shall we only threaten and be angry for an hour:
When the storm is ended shall we find
How softly but how swiftly they have sidled back to power
By the favour and contrivance of their kind?”
Kipling, Mesopotamia
Brilliantly put. Who’d have thunk that a baker could write such good poems and stuff, innitt!!
They have been doing that for the last 50 years.
Is there any difference in the tripe posted by Labour drones pretending to be hard right, heart attack victims to be with poor sex lives (UKIP fringe) and the real thing?
Not a fag paper between them.
Well, that’s it, it’s all over. The best thing anti-EU people can do is get out on the streets with the students on 9 November and the unions on 30 November and have a good ruck with the government’s bully boys in blue.
Protest is tommorrow for referendum protesters.
If you stand up, will your legs buckle under the weight?
We’ll be out there in our wheel chairs, E.
Good Lord No!
Do you really want to be out rioting for the unions whilst bobcrow and his ilk are watching the action on a 50″ tv screen in a five star posh restaurant drinking £1-£100 bottles of champagne at their members expense.
How would the unions be any better than a government who won’t give a referendum on the EU? They are the opposite sides of the same dictatorial coin!
Er nell no one is saying put the unions in power, but having the piss taking out of us like this and letting the government enslave future generations without even a vote on the issue is wrong and if rioting is the only way to get a vote then so be it.
Your always bringing up WW2 nell and dining on other peoples actions in the past to afford us freedoms we enjoy today, will you be a hypocrite and deny the future generations the same luxuries?
Sweetie – where have you been?
I’m all for a referendum and I think cameron has got it wrong if he chooses to try and deny us having one.
Watch the polls next week if his wrecking device is allowed to go ahead and works.
The polls are meaningless if no-one ever gets to cast a vote.
I suggest Cameron has a look at the cartoon in today’s Mail – he is in the process of committing political suicide.
What do Cameron and Obama have in common – alot of hot air and no action. He has been in power for 20 months and he has done absolutely nothing on immigration, The Human Rights act and the EU – old Cleggie is pulling all the strings and must be laughing his socks off.
More importantly where’s bliar and mandy tonight when there are rumours that seif gaddafi has been captured.
In our small country town (more a village really) the local middle-aged and older citizens hold Cameron in very poor regard. He is seen by most (remember these are the people who consider voting a duty and a pleasure) as a principle-free, opportunist, career politician. I have heard nobody disagree that he was keen to have ‘his war’ early in his tenure and that the issues were not important to him. The war was to enhance his standing as a ‘statesman’. I should add that we have always been considered a Tory town.
Most tellingly, we agree that he is a Big State Socialist and engineered his position to power by lies. Just as did Tony Blair, who has no socialist principles but is prepared to commit great crimes in order to gain money.
Like most socialists, Cameron will avoid democratic process at all costs, in case the citizens ask him to do something that we are simply too stupid to understand. Ironically, in our town, there is a very high proportion of very highly qualified voters as we are close to 4 Universities and more than twice that number of FE colleges. We also have a lot of very high tech factories and commercial research units in the vicinity.
Sadly, he lacks the intellect to understand that leadership is not best done by forcing people to do as you and your few close friends want.
Some years ago, I offended a friend, who went to a public school, by saying that there was a tendency for these schools to feed the ego’s of their pupils more than their reasoning skills. I had been reasonably content to have ‘Dave’ in office until, after watching one of the first PMQ’s, where he became angry and rude.
I am now wondering if, like Blair, he is just a self obsessed psychopath.
“socialist principles”
an Oxymoron if ever there was one.
I really do think that cameron is underestimating the feeling amongst the electorate for the need for a referendum on the EU. I also think if he stops it happening he’ll see his support plummet.
Now then militwit it is time for you to jump upon a new bandwagon called ‘the need for an EU referendum’ You need to be quick and I think you just might do yourself a bit of good after this rather disastrous year that you’ve had.
The Tories official end on Monday night after the referendum vote is defeated.
Cameron is too fucking stupid to realise this.
If he thinks things are bad now… It will kick right off on Monday
Now that I have freed Libya from the tyrrant I am now able to say that my people, the people of great britain, will follow me to the hallowed land of europe.
Have no fear my citizens I will not let you down ….
I hope cameron’s not holding his breath if he’s thinking that.
Actually, I rather hope he is.
Stun, I was only reading somewhere yesterday that, try as one might, it is actually impossible to kill oneself by holding one’s breath. So it looks like the pitchforks option is back on the agenda again.
This is not good enough, twice this so called Conservative PM has reneged on the EU. I will tonight resign as a member of the Cons; my vote will be UKIP. Further more than can deliver their own bloody leaflets. I think BB had it right (Hang’em). Sorry chaps but this is definitely the last straw, and we all thought Liebour were the most underhand bar-stewards on God’s Earth. Now at least I know differently.
I think cameron has temporarily lost the plot and doesn’t understand the strength of feeling amongst the electorate about a referendum on the eu.
This could well be the defining moment in his tenure of office – a bit like gordon’s
‘ bigoted woman’ remark was his.
Both of them in their own way are being dismissive of the views of the electorate – gordon paid , so will cameron if he goes that route.
Rather luckily, old Gaddafi’s dominating the headlines and 99% of the sheeple have no idea that there is any vote on Monday.
The Beeb are torn between stories of Tory rebellion in the ranks, asory dear to their hearts, and their desire to hide this nasty business of a possible referendum. I suspect they are NOT going to draw people’s attention to it, as it might suggest to them that the Tories are closer to the nation’s pulse than Milliband. Better to let it drift by unnoticed than become a cause celebre.
Piers Morgan close to tears
Im in love
xxx sista
Waaaaaaacisttttttt !!!!!!!!!!
One term Coalition Government and the Tories never to be seen again in power again if Dave sells out and pushes this through against the majority of the voting publics wishes.
NOT A SINGLE POLL HAS A MAJORITY WANTING TO STAY IN. OUT OUT OUT of the EU now!
And the Europeans are getting a bit pissed off with the ‘EU’ as well. A refrendum in every member state could lead to some interesting results. Then we could get back to trading with one another without Brussels taking a rake off.
One Term Coalition Tramp?
Possibly – but the tories would come back next time around, if cameron fails us over the referendum, by changing their leader.
David Davis anyone? Pity he has so many enemies.
He won’t have as many enemies Camoron will have by Monday evening.
Nell,
During the election by conservative members for a new leader, I too voted for David Davis; at least he stood mostly in what I believe in. However, on one stand-up address Cameron brought about a change in conservative attitude, I actually watched the speech on TV. How he changed the mind of real conservatives still puzzles me today, maybe they were promised free drinks or something. What the electorate made of it only the lord knows, I was definitely not impressed.
The fucking Germans should be nuked off the face of the planet, fucking scum are always stirring up shit for the rest of Europe, at least the fucking cowardly French will shut up after a slap. How many fucking cockups do the German scum need to be allowed before we just do the sensible thing and fuck them right off. Bomb the fuckers into oblivion before they unleash another Hitler on us all.
WW1, WW2, Cold War, and now they couldn’t get anywhere via direct invasion so they did it by stealth aka the EU. All German caused problems in modern history, more trouble than they are worth.
All my UAF supporters know i’m speaking sense.
nonce sense you fucking homo
I’m not Billy Bowden, so ergo i’m not a homo.
No I think you’re wrong about this.
If the EU goes the right way – the UK will get out of it as will Ireland.
Germany and France will be left with the debt ridden, striking,militant, increasingly violent union ridden , not willing to work or reel in their government spending south of greece, spain and portugal.
I wish them joy of it.
Saif Gaddafi is taking delivery of his 72 virgins right now.
I hope you’re wrong Cat – I really want to hear him tell all about how his friends in the UK labour left took his money then sold him down the river.
Tripoli News reports it, nell.
In that case I expect bliar and mandy are on that corfu yacht tonight toasting their good fortune with nat’s champagne.
Especially as Nat probably took a cut out of that deal where Gadaffi sold $1bn gold this week. Hope the tent man had it packed in asbestos suitcases, given where he will have gone…
Of course Cat – the canny gaddafi had to have bought that gold somewhere first before he could sell it on . Bet he paid bottom of the market prices for it a few years back. No prizes for guessing who he bought it off!!
moddings gone mad agin – doesn;t like us mentioning gordon selling off gold at brown bottom to gaddafi now!!
At least the mad Libyan managed to sell at the top. Not a complete head case, he…
No indeed Cat – gaddafi knew how to make and keep money.
gordon on the other hand was of less use than a sieve in rain!
… or a wheelbarrow in a dinghy. Goodnight, I’m off to bed.
Para – excellent idea. Do it and patent it.
That’s raisins, Cat, raisins.
Shows what a PhD from the LSE gets you, doesn’t it?
I hear that one of them was Jade Goody. He is already kicking up that he has been shortchanged…
The fucking Germans should be nuked off the face of the planet, fucking scum are always stirring up shit for the rest of Europe, at least the fucking cowardly French will shut up after a slap. How many fucking cockups do the German scum need to be allowed before we just do the sensible thing and fuck them right off. Bomb the fuckers into oblivion before they unleash another H*i*t*l*e*r* on us all.
WW1, WW2, Cold War, and now they couldn’t get anywhere via direct invasion so they did it by stealth aka the EU. All German caused problems in modern history, more trouble than they are worth.
Nah. The Germans are okay. It’s the French you have to watch.
Why the only things they are good at is surrendering and being over for the Germans to fuck them up the arse.
The main wrecker of Europe has been Germany since it’s inception and through the recent centuries.
*Being bent
Remind me again why I should give a shit if the Germans want to invade France and fuck them up the arse. Again.
Strong words but fucking true
The French cant wait to offer their wives fannies to any passing German in an armoured Porsche
You shouldnt because your a fuckwit inglish wanker troll
Because they will accept an obligation to pay France punitive reparations which were calculated to send their economy into an irrecoverable tailspin?
Would their relationship be properly labelled codependent, sadomasochistic, or both?
Indigenous Germans are just about the only people who still do any work and produce real stuff for exporting in Europe today.
The do however wear white socks and sports jackets and politcaly correct gay man moustaches whilst not imprisoning their daughters as sex slaves and making scat films
Not all Germans wear white socks and sports jackets and politically correct gay man moustaches.
Not all Britons refrain from wearing white socks and sports jackets and politically correct gay man moustaches.
Most French wear white socks and sports jackets and politically correct gay man moustaches and are, frankly, rather on the short side.
Why do the French plant those long avenues of trees down the sides of their roads?
So the Germans can march in the shade.
Its them sneaky Belgians who are the real quiet little shit-stirrers that need watching. They helped drag us into two World Wars and had us to defend their capital and fight the french on their behalf in 1815. And what bleedin’ thanks do we ever get in return? Nothing but large bills from Brussels and nonsense regulations about milk solids in chocolate.
Aye. The cheeky c*unts even asked the UK government for compensation for the land used to bury half a million or more British soldiers.
Errrrrr, I rather think we’ve paid enough for it already chaps.
Remember the IIIIIIIIIIII Ranians getting paid off just cos The SAS forgot that CS gas and flash bangs are a fucking bad idea unless you happen to want set your pants on fire and burn a building to the ground
To be honest, I like all Europeans – when they’re at home. I understand they feel the same about us.
When a French post-war President demanded that all American troops must leave French soil, his US counterpart replied: “Even all the dead ones?”
Never trust a race where the men wear beer soaked leather shorts who live for their step sister/niece/daughter to win die scat factor
Germanys most popular early saturday evening tv viewing
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/
Front page – Picture 2 of 6.
Looks like Gadaffi’s health took a sudden turn for the worse this morning. He looks to be standing up in that picture.
Life’s a real bitch when your the loser.
We are all losers, whether we want to face that fact or bury our heads in the sand.
Man who get thrills from evil BBC and knock it get gold medal in insanity.
Cameron must resign: bully boy tactics from the Bullingdon scum.
Guido’s tweeted that the LibDem tits have now taken down the pro-referendum site. HaHa! Have a look at LibDem Voice – if you can bear it – nary a mention of a forthcoming vote. Do we sense a whitewash within ‘Our Place To Talk’?
Liberal? Democrat? I think the Trade Description people should be brought in.
For Tim Parry and Jonathan Ball
God willing Blair Brown and Frey Bentos Cameron and many others will soon join him in that extra special place the God keeps for child killers
OOO I left out Adams and Mc Guiness (a homosexual child molestor)
No Hooooman rights for you!
called rough justice sweetie.
how many thousands did he and his sons , including seif that personal pal of mandy and bliar, incarcerate, torture and kill ?
not pretty to watch but absolutely the right end for this family.
Hope you’re watching assad.
Don’t call me sweetie you patronising old bitch!
You either believe in human rights or you don’t, it really is that simple.
Look Duckie – you can’t give human rights to someone who will kill your children if you don’t shoot them first. It’s that simple.
So you don’t!
Good, glad we can agree on that nell.
Rights are just restrictions on what the state can do.
The Ghadafi state executed people without trial, it’s only right (hehe) that he receives the same justice he gave out.
The dirty, filthy, treasonous bastards of all three parties can stick their eu crap back where the monkeys stick their nuts.(could be painful)
As for UKIP(while they steal), well, they can do exactly the same.
They are all an icepick short of a Trotsky.Bastards.
Er, did I mention they are all bastards? Good. It is true.
A pox on all the thieving bastards.
What this country needs is another true-blue Mrs Thatcher for Prime Minister.
What we have instead as Prime Minister is a cross-breed. Somewhere between Harold Macmillan (“Stoke up inflation, dear boy!”) and Edward Heath (“Set full sail for Europe, dear boys!”).
It’s not too hard to see where all this is heading, and the final destination will not be an agreeable one.
I’m not a fan of our, so-called, democracy.
The people that are, and have been, making decisions that will affect generations to come are not qualified to do so.
There must be tighter parameters for those that would wish to govern us.
I’m not averse to raising the age at which humans, people, if you will, can consider running for any kind of power.
I’m not averse to upping the pay for a would-be “politician” to a level that attracts business leaders, entrepreneurs and other brain-boxes.
I don’t mind paying for the people that I trust to do the job in hand.
I would much rather be paying 300k to someone who I had complete faith in than 65k to someone I wouldn’t trust to run my whelk stall.
Politics has been de-based by people that are my intellectual inferiors. It must be time to change the incentives and the criteria for gaining that position of trust and power over me.
E x .
I admire your chutzpah, E. However, my cleaning-boy is on more than 300 grand a year, dear.
Think about it, do the maths and then get back to me.
I will not be running for election any time soon, babe.
Your BBC is my cash-cow.
I hates you , Alan , swetheart x .
My portable Tele-Video contraption conked out in 1992 .
Wot a rip-off !!!
E x .
Only on Saturdays.
*Slams alloys into kerb on double yellow line and thinks nothing of it*
Among those who worked for him, Sugar’s abortive email/phone hybrid was nicknamed “Arkwright’s Till” after the item of the same name in “Open All Hours”.
The man’s a self-promoting barrow boy who should be locked up.
..and a shonker, to boot!
Britain in Europe from our mate dave
http://www.scribd.com/doc/69616370/CCHQ-Europe-Briefing
bought private eye today apart from 2 cartoons its dire.
The Curse (episode 94)…
So when did Gordon last meet Muammar?
cameron, just another con artist like blair and brown.
can we get a refund for miss-selling like you can ppi?
‘another con artist’
sadly it does seem so doesn’t it?
we need a revolution against the political elite.
lets get nato to help?
I think they’re going to be too busy dealing with sy ria.
Hope they’re collecting up all those redundant arms in lib ya at the moment and shipping them over to the undefended sy rian population so that they can do for themselves what the liby ans have just done.
If Cameron wins we will just raise another 100,000 signatures and we will do it all again until we get the referendum we want.
Can we do that ?
The kuunnnts did it to the Irish so we should be able to do it back.
+100
+62,000,000
Does that include the 9 million plus enrichers?
Yes, but not the other 3-4 million illegals.
OK so the libdems who said they wanted a referendum have now changed their minds and are now cowering in a ditch hoping that we won’t notice their existence. Their choice of yellow as a party seems particularly apt at the moment.
100 tories or thereabouts have decided to get a backbone and stand up for democracy though it doesn’t look as if cameron is going to join them. If david davis wants to advance his cause as a future tory leader this is surely his moment. What does he have to lose?
As for labour – militwit and his crew are still eyeing up those kinnochio type eu jobs that give you inflated salaruies, unlimited expenses and pensions you can only dream of , so they are absolutely determined, to a man, to vote for the EU in the hope they’ll get a chance at one of those jobs eventually, and deny democracy – well what else would we expect of labour?!
In the National Gallery you may see The Vision of Saint Eustace by Pisanello c. 1438-42. It depicts the subject’s conversion when he saw a stag with a crucifix between its antlers.
Maybe this conversion is rather less sincere?
Do you want Cameron to end up like Saint Eustace? Stuck in a giant brass container with his wife and kids and boiled to death?
It is not a issue that is likely to arise so I have not considered it, even contingently.
Although I am not a God person, I have no rational objection to the Misguided discovering The Right Path through Revelation.
I have no rational objection to the Misguided Eustice discovering The Right Path through the Oranienburg Treatment for Traitorous Scum as later perfected by Pol Pot….
Labour and Limp Dems are setting the Tories up for a gigantic fall that will see them trashed with the public forever.
The only loser is the Tory Party and that useless prick cannot see it.
There’s none so blind as those who will not see.
Really so limplabour voting against a referendum and the lib dums hiding behind labour hoping not to be noticed as they also vote against a referendum are going to benefit from an electorate who want a referendum?
How do you work that one out?!!
All Labour have to do is dump donkey Ed and they’d get back in next time especially if the Libs grow to like power and cut a deal with them just incase the boundary changes hits them hard, sadly the electorates memory is like a goldfish.
Dump militwit?
You’re kidding aren’t you. Labour have never ever dumped a leader – they are inherently the biggest political cowards incapable of changing a leader that doesn;t know when he should quit.
militwit is going to roll into the next election on the delusion that he can win by landslide , just as gordon did . Labour have long since lost touch with reality..
meanwhile, if cameron messes up over this referendum and loses massive electoral support expect to see him kicked out quite soon and with little or no fuss. Frankly I shall cheer as it happens. He has not lived up to expectations!
As for the lib dums. cleggie’s the only one with any nouse and I can’t work out why he has bothered to stay with the manky wet flannels that the libdems are.
Can’t see him with prospects of leading any of the other parties; not a creature of the unions, too uncomfortable with the Shires.. and as for UKIP, his wife would have his nuts for castanets if he so much as thought about it.
And don’t forget that after 18 months of new governance all blame for current difficulties economic or political will be presented to the door of No 10.
I think a mind as well as a memory of a goldfish.
What they cut in editing no doubt.
YouTube are removing them all, watch wile you can!
You twisted fuck.
E x .
These people are scum.
Lower than scum.
Yes, the people that run this site are sub-human. Please read the adverts and buy something.
Fucking. Hell.
I was in two minds about whether to watch this, but I’m glad I did, as it seems to have been mysteriously lost on the BBC cutting room floor.
I hope that some channel has the nerve to show it, so we can see the ululating, abhorrent scum that we’re dealing with. Don’t get me wrong – I’m not sad that he’s dead. But he wasn’t killed – he was butchered. By a baying mob. The same as every other baying Isl,amic mob wherever they may be.
They are simply not 21st Century values that we’re dealing with and, as such, it is impossible to deal with them.
No Hoooman rights for you!
No Hooman rights for you!
Chuck it in da fucking bin, he’s not hoooooooooman that one!
And yes we are the ones to choose who is and who isn’t hooooooman.
Is it cos I is Arab?
Nope, not good enough.
UKIP get my vote until this smarmy little boy is replaced with a real Conservative. Shame on you who voted for him – it was obvious what type of slimy, lying, deceitful clown he was.
Indeed.
Hear, hear!
Steady on, now, folks.
Is not Dave the great communicator, forged and tempered to perfection in that happy profession that can sell ice to an eskimo?
You’ll all be charmed girl-giggly by the masterpiece of oratory that he’ll deliver on Monday.
You know you will.
Then won’t you all feel silly!
Only if he promises a referendum albacore otherwise he can sling his hook!
Well, if our Dave does sling his hook
Let’s hope he does it by the book
So in no cranny nor no nook
Is any trace left of the crook
Nell.
He will never order a referendum,with a jelly backbone it’s not possible.
Wavy Davy first and country second is the order of the day.
Glad actually that last time round I nor my family did not vote for the three main ar–hole parties.
Who should I see this evening travelling on the Piccadilly line but Blinky. Nothing exciting to report I’m afraid. He was deeply engrossed in a book. Couldn’t see what the book was.
What you can be absolutely certain of is that you and I were paying for that train ticket.
And the book.
Economics for…
………….dummies!
It feels as good a moment as any even if arriving sooner than I thought , but first we must digest what is to come out of the veritable magic hat , as regards the eurozone cough er paying for the lax fiscal controls and spending of other countries . It perhaps isnt much of an assurity ,the ammendment but it pleasing to note that some who occupy the once respected seats of the palace of westminster have not forgotten what it means to uphold the realm .
In that respect Hussar Hussar Hussar
And someone had the cheek to accuse me of being on LSD in the last thread?
Filter your thoughts, dear boy – slow down and see if they come to a coherent whole. Only then allow the moving finger to write and, having writ, move on.
No I actually accused you of being a shagger of sheep but Im glad I get the opportunity to correct the misunderstanding!
Time for bed for me, I’m afraid – have to get up early to watch the boyos crap on the transportees.
I see all the English and Scots rugby players are home already…
The ‘moving finger’ is an appropriate reference, as the terror occasioned by its appearance was compounded by what it wrote being utter, meaningless gibberish.
It’s all there.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2051361/Gaddafi-dead-Dictator-begged-life-summarily-executed.html
He died as he had decreed thousands of his own people should die.
You live by the sword you die by the sword. In his case however – he had no honorable life therefore there could be no honorable death.
We shouldn’t celebrate the death of any human being, nell – we can execrate his actions in life but summary execution does nobody any good.
By this action the killers have lowered themselves to the same level as Gadhaffi, and removed the choice prospect of a trial with Blair, Mandelson and Straw called as witnesses.
Hmm. perhaps Paragnostic – but I remember reading the account of a young boy about 14 who had dared to shout his juvenile objection to gaddafi in gaddafi’s earshot.
He was taken into the middle of a football field and hung. Any human being that will kill children deserves whatever fate brings them. I’m afraid I cannot mourn his end – perhaps at the end he knew something of the fear his own thousands of victims, most of them young, had felt down that 42 years of his reign.
Quite right Nell.
This animal has shown over years his understanding of what people and their God given rights are all about.
The man and all the other dictators/murderers are a plague on this world.
I sincerely hope that we are now seeing the demise of these kinds of people.
No crimes can justify a summary execution and a barbaric treatment by a mob.
Like Achilles desecrating Hector’s body, such actions invite hubris.
We shouldn’t celebrate the death of any human being, nell – we can execrate his actions in life but summary execution does nobody any good.
Celebrating the death of another human being who is/was a complete c*unt is entirely natural.
When that c*unt Brown pops his clogs I shall be punching the air with delight.
Summary execution, likewise, is exactly what the doctor ordered. He’s lucky they didn’t chain him (alive) to the tow-hitch of a Toyota pickup and drag him back to Tripoli.
Exactly my Achilles and Hector point, jgm2 – Achilles tied Hector’s body to his chariot and dragged it up and down outside the gates of Troy.
It’s one of the oldest stories known – older than the Old Testament.
Barbarism and disrespect, even to scum like Gadhaffi, lowers you to their level.
There was plenty of scope to send him to trial, convict him and then hang him – I’m not against the death penalty, just against behaving like a gang of apes.
Neither do we want to see an Achillean display of paiderastia, as with Patroclus. Not on TV, certainly!
Sometimes it is necessary that a tyrant is seen to die. That was the case for Gaddafi as it was for Ceauşescu. Their supporters have to be told that they won’t be coming back. Such scenes are always going to be ugly. If the dispatchers are trained soldiers with an objective to kill, who recognise that anything beyond achievement is unproductive let alone demeaning, that is one thing. But a braying mob is never going to have the finer feelings 1.) of respect or 2.) the prospect of disclosure resulting from a trial which would strengthen their case against the aggressor.
Achilles was soon sleeping besides Briseis, though. So he swung both ways… uugh! *goes and washes hands*
Para, you do me a disservice.
When you learn to distinguish ‘role’ and ‘roll’, I’ll give your opinion weight.
Until then, fuck off back to school and learn English, cunt.
Never been on mumsnet – is it as good as LabourLost?
Useless fucking troll – must try harder.
Looks like you have been modded Paragnostic lefty and quite rightly too.
Nope – they always mod the use of ‘Guy Fawkes’ as a moniker. And me, a lefty? LOL.
Please play again…
Well I’m going to celebrate. Just be glad you never felt my pain.
Good luck to you.
Hope you feel cleansed by the experience.
Personally, I’d have liked to see the bastard hung after a trial, but then again I do try to behave like a higher primate most of the time.
Wind your neck in and chill the fuck out nell, in the end the trial he would have had would have sentenced him to death anyway. The problem is that what did happen looks like a death squad on the march with OUR government backing it!
Your being totally hypocritical supporting this nell.
Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, the cruel Sadism you see coming from the Zagreb via YouTube is the TRUTH, I know you don’t like it nell but please don’t try and defend it. It was wrong and shows the barbaric savage sadism of these so called freedom fighters.
Well said Nell. This man authorised the killing and torturing of hundreds if not thousands of people in Libya (and abroad) every day. It stands to reason that he is no longer able to do this is a cause for celebration.
Tonight Gaddafi is facing his maker and that is where true justice will be done.
Sadly he’s not facing his maker. If I believed for one moment these fuckers were facing their maker I’d be delighted.
Nope.
There is no God. There is no afterlife. There are no consequences.
He’s just dead.
Good enough for the c*unt. Fuck him.
So lets cut the grass.
Fucking government Hunts.
Can someone please tell Cristina Odone that shouting with false indignation is the cheapest, laziest way to get applause.
It’s in Scotland what do you expect!
Rees-Mogg playing a blinder.
Sort of O/T, but Rory Bremner’s just done a brilliant cover of Tom Lehrer’s “Who’s Next?” on ‘Tonight’ on R4 – all about the Eurozone. It’s not on iPlayer yet, but will be tomorrow – skip the rest of the show (though there are a few good digs at McRuin) and go straight to the last 3 minutes.
I’d gladly pay the small percentage of the telly tax that goes to radio if they did more of the same…
Link’s up now – remember, only the last 3 minutes are worth a listen…
http://bbc.in/ounzB8
WARNING: CONTAINS JEREMY HARDY
I am a Musketeer.
Really? Your kids say you only play if you can be Marie Antoinette
Ever get the feeling you’ve had enough of this country?
I used to love the place but with four young kids and a future that I dare not think about, if I could I would get the fuck out of here.
The left and the so-called right in this country have a lot to answer for.
Indeed
That’s my fuckin’ line!
Where can I join the English resistance movement ?
Well I suppose you could always go to Greece or some other failing EU state. I hear they have bigger riots than we do.
The religion of piss has once again proven that civilisation is still a millennium away…
To be fair, in -either- direction from here.
I put it to you that the public Library should go the way of the public bath house.
There really is no need to subsidise books for the masses, just as there was no need to provide public baths for the masses anymore.
Our public libraries have become the symbol of a bygone age that the middle class luvvies cling on to.
I like reading books without paying!
Fucking hell, he is really alive there, he moves his hand to his bloody face and looks around at his future murderers, chilling stuff!
NICE THOUGH
And we support this?
Discussing!
No Hoooooooman rights for you!
Things like this have happened in every war that has ever been fought. Don’t believe the crap about marching bands and disciplined honourable behaviour, that kind of stuff is rare. The general reality has always been primitive and bloody.
These guys look evil, but that is what happens when men go into battle for days, weeks, and months on end. All the armchair generals should have a good long gleg and undertsand that when they call for hostilities to commence, this is pretty much the sort of thing it usually ends up as.
Gaddafi was an evil son of a bitch and probably ordered the deaths of thousands of his own citizens bot to mention sponsoring terrorism against this country and blowing airliners out of the skies so I weep no tears for this bastard getting “tapped”
Of more concern is the fact that despite Western politicians telling us that Libya is now to enter a period of freedom and democracy I am a bit sceptical.
I suggest for all the rhetoric about Democracy etc the West has not the faintest idea whom we’ve actually backed;the NTC is riddled with factions united only by their hatred for Gaddafi and who are not above killing their opponents within the NTC even when still fighting Gaddafi;we have armed militia some if not all who will be unwilling to lay down their arms …What’s to stop them taking up arms against the NTC if they don’t like what they perceive as reforms.Do we know if their ranks are infiltrated by AQ or similar ? I very much doubt it. Whilst hoping for the best..I fear the worse and much like Iraq before… the West may have just opened up a very dangerous can of worms……….the death of Gaddafi isn’t the end of the worries over Libya despite all the joyous celebrations there and in the West and amongst the western media such as the BBC who has usual are indulging in a veritable “wankfest” to the exclusion of all else
There are a few exceptional that might, just might, tip the balance in favour of democracy.
Population wise the country is very small – I think I read somewhere like 7million people. but I stand to be corrected if I’m wrong.
Secondly the country is very very rich in oil.
Thirdly all that money has been hived off into gaddafi’s own bank accounts for private jets, posh palaces, jetset travel etc whilst the majority of the population has lived on $2 per head per day for the most part without proper access to education or healthcare (unless of course you have believed gaddafi’s propaganda like bliar and mandy did)
With luck some of that vast wealth will now get fairly distributed and jobs will be created that will go to local libyans rather than to that vast army of thugs that old mommar brought in from neighbouring states to try and bolster his rule against outraged locals.
Well Guido, old sport, eight hours into the article and three hundred comments already! Old Smarmy Bollocks will live to regret this, I fancy!
Strip out everything that’s not directly on-topic (such as most of my posts) and the number will scare much less. Maybe tomorrow’s Rally of the Really Riled will do the trick.
“so that is more closely reflects the views of the majority of the parliamentary party…”
So that’s a confession that the parliamentary party doesn’t reflect the views of the public?
So much for democracy!
Another eurozone emergency meeting for next wed !! whats wrong this time not enough decafe , too much salt , still or carbonated mineral water , less bent bananas .
Doesnt the farce just to go to show why sovereign governments work , in that someone is responsible and makes decisions .
The more worrying news is that no deficet reduction measures seem to have emerged yet , no good bailing out a still wonk defecit producing economy is it .
funnily enough Harry Enfield may have been way ahead , but got the charctures stereotyping wrong , Stavros should be greek finance minister , and Loads sa money should be barroso .Its a shame Kenny Evverit isnt still with us , to report on EU meeting
night night
well, I woke up this morning
you were on my mind
and you were on my mind
but I’m still not going to let you win
no sirrie, this is my parade and I’m going to enjoy it
all hail the great dictator
Dave the Dictator: No points – David le Dictateur: Nil points.
And now we have the scores for Luxembourg …
So can we leave Libya now or is this going to be another long, boringly protracted daylight robbery of somebody elses oil…again…..???
… he said, conveniently forgetting that Brown stole all our money, our savings, our pensions, our gold and so much more that we have not even yet uncovered.
George Eustace can be contacted on george.eustice.mp@parliament.uk.
I expect he would like to know the public’s feelings on his ammendment.
I am a turkey, and have a safe job until May 2015 – I wont be voting for Christmas