October 17th, 2011

Controversial Lobbyist at the Heart of Downing Street

In those heady days of spring 2010 Nick Clegg told the ITV leadership debate that he wanted “something I’ve supported all my adult political life, which is a complete clean-up from top to toe of politics.” This included an end to murky lobbying and he subsequently convinced the Conservative coalition negotiators of the need for a compulsory register of lobbyists. So it is odd then that the lobbyist Olly Grender has gone to spin for Nick Clegg out of the Deputy Prime Minister’s Office. Grender is in Downing Street covering the maternity leave of Clegg’s gatekeeper Lena Pietsch, which means she will be back on the outside practising the dark arts very soon….

After spinning for the Liberal Democrats in the run up to the 1997 election, Grender turned to the dark-side of lobbying at Neal Lawson and Jonathan Mendelsohn’s scandal ridden and now defunct LLM Communications, which became notorious for their level of access to the Blair government. Eventually she moved on to PLMR – Political Lobbying and Media Relations. Leaving the quack green energy companies represented by the firm aside,  the organisation boasts that they represent Frankenstein doctors  like PLMR client Reneuron who experiment with stem-cells taken from new-born children, and pro-puppy-torturing and mouse-probing animal research organisations like UAR. PLMR also spin for the Brazilian Beef food processing industry, which George Monbiot accuses of “deforestation, slavery and murder”. Classy stuff…

Given the unfettered access that Grender now has and that her appointment is only temporary, what measures have been taken in Downing Street to make sure that her firm’s clients, who until very recently were paying her to represent them, do not have undue influence? The Cabinet Office can instigate a cooling off period after officials leave the government before they can jump through the revolving door. Will this “two years in the cooler” apply to Grender and her corporate lobbying career? With Nick Clegg leading the charge against the spinmeisters, what has he done to get his own house in order?


  1. 1
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    What is it about those weirdy beardy Lib Dems, nothing but trouble!

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    Mexican General Clegg says:

    Be kind Gudio

    I have no choice about anything nowadays

    I have no followers

    Not much money

    A Cluster fuck of a Coalition and all that keeps me going is the idea of moving to Sunny Spain with my delightful wife and her right wing father

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    bender says:

    Grender is enough to send anybody to the dark side.

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    Anonymous says:

    Since when did you give a monkey’s about Monbiot’s opinion of anything?

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    Ewanme says:

    OMG !!

    Read it . Look – I gotta go to Tescos now , darlin x .

    I has bin very cooperative an contributed stuff to ur thingy .

    Now , I’s gotta think of Ewa , for once .

    I need cider , I need Doritos an I needs Second Life .

    Good luck in ur quest to change the world , Guido .

    Urs always , Guido , E xx .

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    ex-Tory says:

    He’s teasing the animal loving, green nazis amongst the Lib Dems. No sense of irony these lefties.

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    Gerry Manfering says:

    Hang him!

    Sorry. Hang her.

    On the other hand, given the amount of money it takes to promote yourself in public life only the very rich (Abramovich in Siberia) or the very corrupt (Hello, Foxy) have the cash to get to the top of the greasy pole.

    Look at the cash Obama spent.

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    Bobby Socks says:

    Hi Ewanme, daaahling,

    I missed you

    Not too many Doritos

    They create gas dear

    I loves you

    xxx ooo

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    Olé says:

    Which gender Guido?

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    Bob says:

    This blog needs an edit function. With all the money you’re screwing from the feeble-minded advertisers, how about doing something for us?

    I won’t hold my breath.

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    Lord Lichfield says:

    It’s Noel Gallagher in his youth

    Didn’t you recognise him ?

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    Kitchener of Khartoum says:

    “Olly Grender”? What kind of a name is that? If it were “Oily Grinder” then I’d understand.

    Send this hermaphrodite back to Grenderland, pronto, please.

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    Karl Lagerfield says:

    I love this site


    Which fork ?

    And which gender ?

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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    Anonymous says:

    Oh for fox sake, is Guido now going soft on stem-cell research, GM technology and Big Pharma and animal testing ??

    Is Guido turning into a loony-leftie himself ??

    He’ll be wanting to ban Fox huhneting next…

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    Axe The Telly Tax says:

    I thought it was Noddy Holder.


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    sockpuppet #4 says:

    Frankenstein doctors?
    Puppy torture?
    gone all PETA and tabloidy at the same time. Well done.

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    Shocked and appalled says:

    Blimey, Guido, you gone barmy Christian right or summat?

    Satanic stem cells? Evil animal researchers?

    Never thought I’d see it.

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    nell says:

    Well I for one am very relieved to be rid of the last government who were probably the worst we’d ever had.

    But it is disappointing that the coalition is still mired in spads, spinners and lobbyists just as the labour govt were before them.

    Until they get rid of these ghouls/hangers-on then they’ll never clean up politics.

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    Peter Mandelson says:

    Did someone mention Brazilian Beef?

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    We have a long memory says:

    And we remember Jonathan Mendelsohn and his brazen influence pedding

    Along with our old friend, the toxic Dolly

    In 1998, while still working as a director at GPC Market Access, Draper was caught on tape, with Jonathan Mendelsohn, boasting to Greg Palast – an undercover reporter from The Observer posing as a businessman – about how they could sell access to government ministers and create tax breaks for their clients.[3] When the tabloids got hold of the story, they dubbed it “Lobbygate”.[4] On the recording, Draper said that “there are 17 people who count in this government … [to] say I am intimate with every one of them is the understatement of the century.” Palast also wrote that Draper said, regarding his motivation: “I just want to stuff my bank account at 250 pounds an hour” he went on to add that “Draper was nothing more than a messenger boy, a factotum, a purveyor, a self-loving, over-scented clerk”. Although he denied the allegations and accused The Observer of attempting to entrap him, he was widely ridiculed in the aftermath.[5] Palast later stated that the subsequent media coverage got his original story wrong, and that it was not primarily about boastful lobbyists: “the real story was about Tony Blair and his inner circle”

    What a bunch of insufferable scum which ios spawning another generation of insufferable scum

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    Drag Act says:

    I think you put up the wrong photo Guido. That looks remarkably like Mel Smith with a mop on his head.

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    Edinburgh is an illiberal shithole that I can't wait to leave. says:

    Get Cable to follow her where ever she goes. With him foaming at the mouth and breathing down her neck that should put an end to her corrupt ways.

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    Jimmy Edwards says:

    But she isn’t wearing a beard Billy, though I think a handlebar moustache would suit her.

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    Tweeper Twap says:

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    Chris Hoon says:

    I’d shag her!!!

    (and then she’d shag me! : )

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    Now her front bottom almost certainly stinks (in answer to someone on the last page.)

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    Barge Pole says:

    At least Miram Clegg doesn’t have to worry about what Nick might get up to in the office broom cupboard.

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    catholic balti dodger says:

    please do

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    Phil the Greek, 91 and still all there says:


    I have a Field Marcshal, 3 full generals, Gold Stick and Silver Stick and a gay valet (to add to the ambiance) monirtoring your site

    Thank you for telling US what is happening in this benighted country

    But please, before dinner, put up some Totty worthy of the name

    Otherwise WE go to bed without ROFL (my youngest ADC told me about this expression)

    Thank you, young man, for your work

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    East Ender says:

    Well done Phil, Sir,

    You are bloody marvellous for your age

    I hope you still speak your mind

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    Mama Weer All Crazee Now, Skweeze Me, Pleeze Me, 7 Year Bitch, Slam the Hammer Down, Knuckle Sandwich Nancy, Wild Winds are Blowing.

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    Perfect material for politics. Ticks all the boxes.

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    MI5 officer says:


    But influence peddling, ponzi schemes, corruption, non doms and post q u e e r theory,


    Better go offshore quick, you old fraud

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    catholic balti dodger says:

    Grender bender
    Who in their right mind would impregnate that?
    Its probably got a minge that looks like a gorrillas arse after it sat in a pot of Evo stick just before rubbing its backside all over an arab barber shops floor

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    MI5 officer says:

    Rolling on de fucking floor spliting my sides

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    Observer says:

    And still taking orders from Brussels.

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    Infamy! Infamy! They’ve all got it in for me!

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    catholic balti dodger says:

    Off topic
    But I used to share a tailor with HMs hubby, Manchester of all places
    One day I was wanking around choosing a new coat and said cloth monkey said “here look at this”
    It was a hand written order from himself for two tweed caps, a matching one for his valet
    Matching outfits
    how camp is that?

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    The Paragnostic says:

    Out with the Stayprest and the Doc Martens, eh, Cat?

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    Ah! Found you! The sort who would boil up poisonous biryanis in the middle of the night, and keep you awake with his pagan limbo dancing.

    See above at what is currently 25. October 17, 2011 at 5:39 pm

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    The Paragnostic says:

    Dolly over-scented?

    Must have made up for his never seeing the inside of a soap wrapper!

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    I’m a Little Feat, Grateful Dead, Focus, Zappa man myself, Paragnostic.

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    UN Observer says:

    Are you surprised, my friends, that the youth of ther Western turns massively to drugs and alcohol when they see what has, is and is likely to happen now ?

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    The Paragnostic says:

    Frances Morrell?

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    JP II says:

    I told you so

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    who George Monbiot accuses of “deforestation, slavery and murder”

    To be fair he does say that about everyone. Even Santa.

    “The evil fatman who sets no example to obese children and forces his animals to work overnight with only a carrot or a disgusting fat containing mince pie. He gives Chinese made toys, produced by slaves in polluting factories, to western children whilst completely ignoring the plight of poor Asian or Islamic middle eastern families. Santa doesn’t even charge for his gifts and so makes no profit on his wastage and pays no tax. And does he even begin to consider just the effect of the wrapping paper itself, torn to shreds within seconds of a child awakening? Not to mention the packaging that this..this ..this Capitalist Tyrant employs in this hideous display of his wealth and bounty.

    I can only conclude that Christmas is a plot to melt the icecaps and so turn Santa’s useless arctic circle home into prime real estate and mineral rich mining land..ohhhh! the humanity…”


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    Normal citizen says:

    And even looking at the adolescent Milliband is enought to confirm their views

    Without speaking of all the rest

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    SP30 says:

    I wouldn’t be suprised if Huhne is. Does she take points?

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    What is a tweeper?

    If you want to know more..press the dead button.

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    Jack says:

    Pompous oaf

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    Chris "Famously Not Fussy" Hoon says:

    Surely worth a “totty-watch” tag, no?

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    Referee says:

    Super “victim” card

    Go immediately to jail, without passing Go

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    The Paragnostic says:

    Hawkwind, Soft Machine and Gong for me, Cat, but Zappa (RIP) was the best thing the US produced in the 20th century, Jobs fans notwithstanding.

    Dennis Ritchie died last week too – he only invented Unix and C, so obviously wasn’t as important as the man who brought shiny toys to shallow people…

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    Referee says:

    Sir David Frost, I presume

    (since he married a Duchess)

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    What percentage of people can write in C? 0.1%? People like that are too far up the tree for the ones on the ground to see.

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    Spin, Fraud, Misinform, Threaten and Coverup, leading City solicitors says:

    You really do not need all these PR people, spinners, fraudsters, banksters and miscellaneous shyts, you can count on us to make the rules hit your needs

    We can also provice residence papers, clean your reputation, suficate you critics and generally make sure that you, the criminal horde of the world, are welcome in Britain

    That is how we make fucking millions

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    The Paragnostic says:

    You forgot the reindeer – despoilers of Lapland’s lichen, emitting their dastardly farts and belches at high altitude to cause maximum greenhouse effect, causing light pollution with their luminous noses…

    Moonbat really is beyond parody, though…

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    BillyBob... says:

    A tranny ?? Surely some mistake…… more a pig in knickers, if that is not insulting the four legged variety !!

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    BillyBob... says:

    Makes me want to vomit !

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    Cressida's Dick says:

    Lock up your daughter/The bangin’ man…If Handycock’s around.
    We’ll bring the house down..The lib dumbs with Cable on lead vocals.
    My oh my..spinelesss Dave when he realises he can’t avoid an EU referendum.

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    Help is at hand says:

    It woz. Here’s the proof:

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    catholic balti dodger says:

    Bill old chap
    I couldnt be arsed reading such bilge spuked up by some polar bear hugging sodomite whose name translates as” my genital wart” in the language of frog in garlic munching bend over and take it the arse cun francais pour le Hun
    J’adore the Chinoise they provide is with cheap electrical goods and women with pubes as slick as a well greased cashmere thong

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    nell says:


    poor old monbiot sounds desperately in need of some of gordon’s anti-depressants. How do these miserable negative people live with themselves?

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    BillyBob... says:

    Looks like the whinging scousers want the PM to apologise for the Hilsborough tragedy…. how about the drunken obnoxious Liverpool supporters fighting and pushing their way into the ground apologise first ?


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    nell says:

    We need to start a campaign for ‘One Press Secretary for Downing Street – bring back Bernard Ingham!’

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    A Former Labour/Tory Voter says:

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    A Former Labour/Tory Voter says:

    Dig this:

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    Voice of Reason says:

    Who the fuck cares? This blog is becoming more and more boring. How about something about the failure of Camoron to curb the power companies – or the news that growth will be way below what Osborne forecast. Anything rather than these ludicrous Westminister stories which are soooo boring.

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    Voice of Reason says:

    Typical comment of a right-wing coward.

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    BillyBob... says:

    hahahahahahaha whinging dickhead !!

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    I don't need no doctor says:

    She has a face like a bull dog licking piss off a thistle.

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    catholic balti dodger says:

    You fucking jest!
    I live in a fucking massive house in a decent part of London, my neighbours are either disablists living in luxury when not being wheeled about by illegal immigrants or fucking muzzies
    There are flats next to me occupied by every shade of soap dodger you can imagine who stink the entire rd out with garam masala
    And I fucking pay for it
    Why fucking bother

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    BillyBob... says:

    Seems you are the boring one, remember self abuse is a sin !!

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    A Gentleman Rioter says:

    Ah. Yes, sir. I could quite happily go on the rampage with this playing through my iBuds. Great post.

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    catholic balti dodger says:

    Or a fucking Mars bar fryer when its his round
    A bunch of ginger haired inbreds whose only contribution to western values have been deep fried pizza , cannon fodder (along with the bog trotters) and the Labour parteh

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    What it says on the tin. says:

    Would it be reasonable for you to read the Label? If you want to read about those sort of things, the Telegraph would make a good starting place. But if you wants tittle tattle, rumours and gossip which you clearly don’t, then you is in the wrong place.

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    Free Enterprise Rules says:

    Always good to read the word “nazi” in a thread about George Monbiot. Keep it up, but also consider “commie”, “totalitarian” and “wishy-washy”.

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    A Gentleman Rioter says:

    The fact that this blog is preaching to the converted has obviously been lost on you, young fellow.
    We are in limbo and anything that is said between now and then is bound to be of little consequence.
    We must keep our wits sharpened for the next three-and-a-half years so that we are ready to lambast the LabLibDem coalition.

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    Jack Dromey (Mrs) says:

    It’s still OK if someone else is doing it, though, yeah?

    Harder, Harriet, harder. Tell me what a naughty little girl I am.

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    Sir William Waad says:

    Olly Grender? She looks more like Grendel’s mother – not the Aneglian version, obviously.

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    The Paragnostic says:

    Fuck off back to Labourlist then – I’m sure Will Straw will cover the issues you care about in the style you prefer.

    Now if there were rumours about power company involvement with politicians’ private offices, or relations of politicians working for, say, EDF (like G. Brown Esq’s brother, for instance), or if there was any reason to think that growth levels have been artificially inflated to seduce ministers into thinking they could afford to cut ‘too fast, too deep’, I’m sure this blog would cover them.

    But since there aren’t, you’ll have to make do with the tittle-tattle and general abuse that passes for debate in here :-)

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    catholic balti dodger says:

    “IT” looks like “IT” belongs in a fairy tale
    Roasting young children in a deep dark Austrian forest

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    Sir William Waad says:


    George Monbiot is not a commie, and rarely wishy-washy in his opinions. While he favours state intervention in energy production and environmental matters, and takes an internationalist position on this that seeks to over-rule local democratic control, he is not a totalitarian since he appears to believe that the state should only intervene where it is necessary, rather than that the state shoudl take the place of society itself. His main wekaness is that he uncritically believes the carbon dioxide theory of climate change.

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    catholic balti dodger says:

    would you allow your daughter to go out with this soap dodger?

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    Seb coe's a cunt says:

    Birds of a feather ?

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    catholic balti dodger says:

    fUCK OFF!
    Bring back Bernard Manning

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    Clodagh O'Brian, Dale Farm Resident, Age 8 says:

    Mummy says the judge’s ruling that we are illegally occupying Dale Farm and it is lawful for us to be evicted is “the end of the road fer us”, but oi prefer to see it as the start of the road, and an opportunity to be grasped.

    We haven’t done that much travelling recently – well Daddy has been out for a bit of tarmac and bric-a-brac work, and Mummy has been to the benefits office and down to the High Court to stick her middle finger up.

    I was really worried we were becoming like the middle class English council tax payers we despise so much, and not doing any travelling at all.

    Oi invite all the activists who we’ve hoodwinked to visit us at our nice big house in Ireland, so I do.

    Thank you.


    PS My ten sisters and fourteen brothers agree with me too, so they do.

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    Seb coe's a cunt says:

    Sad so very sad !

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    Anonymous says:

    shaddup you whingey old fart.

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    Sir William Waad says:

    But it’s simply not true, BillyBob. You have absorbed too many lazy media stories about Football Hooligans.

    If you put a metal cage at the bottom end of a sloping enclosed space and fill that space with people, then pen up another large group people, before releasing them suddenly and channelling them in increasing and excessive numbers into the top end of the enclosed space, the people at the bottom will start to become crushed even if the indivdiuals concerned are opera-goers, vicars or stamp-collectors.

    If you then stand around gawping, while refusing to open the gates to let the first group of people out onto the pitch, even though they are obviously dying, you can expect the full protection of your colleagues in the South Yorkshire Police.

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    Thumb Screw says:

    You made me laugh out LOUD, you naughty commenter.

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    BillyBob... says:

    To be sure? to be sure !

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    Chris Hoon says:

    OI !!! Get yer own monicker !!!!!

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    BillyBob... says:

    Still the fault of the drunken Liverpool supporters !!

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    Hurgha says:

    Labour Lord Paul Boateng’s son is in court charged with sexual assault. Is this the same son who was charged with rape while Boateng was working at the British embassy?


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    nell says:

    Well I’m not sure that bernard manning would have the depth and breadth of english that we came to expect of bernard ingham but he would be a vast improvement on the spinners and smearers or downing street.

    esther rantzen called bernard manning a ra ci st and yet his in di an neighbours called him a perfect gentleman and the best of neighbours.

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    English Taxpayer says:

    The political scene has scarcely changed, has it ??

    ‘50,000 megatons of nuclear warheads’ = Tony B£iar’s Weapons of Mass Destruction.

    ‘Help, help,help ! We’re all going to die !!’ = Clinate Change. Chris Hoon

    Frances Morelle = Harridan Harmanhater.

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    Yes. Of course I do jest.

    Dear Sir, if the situation gets you down that much, then I earnestly suggest that you do what I did – emigrate. You will find that nowhere else in the world is such a perfect haven for all the soap dodgers and dependency seekers. Therefore your life will be improved immeasurably by not being amongst their corrosive influence. I am amazed by the amount of hard working, honest, decent people that I have met since my departure. Strangely, it has been easier to find them on my visits back to the UK. The Nazi-like culture of suspicion evaporates quite soon after departure and you realise how much it worms its way into your psyche when you are in Blighty.

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    Anonymous says:

    “What percentage of people can write in C? 0.1%?”

    If only 1% use it, it can’t be that fucking good can it?

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    Not quite ready for that … too much to do.

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    joescotus says:

    have you had some refreshment?

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    Sorry old boy! I am beyond the reach of the PC brigade in the UK. Thank fuck…

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    wot says:

    Wasn’t he done for the same thing while daddy was big chief at embassy in South Africa?

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    joescotus says:

    if its that boring why dont you fuck off back to labour list ya moaning c4unt

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    I don't need no doctor says:

    Pay tax? Oi don’t know about dat, aren’t tax for hammering in wood? Road tax, what’s dat, why would you tax a road begorrah. Council tax, oh yes thay have been taxing us at Dale Farm, where all jibbering wrecks thems bin taxing us so much so thay have. Oim off now got to cllect me rent from me house in Ireland.

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    I don’t mind being accused of passing tittle-tattle and general abuse but that awful grin is a shade too far… It conjures up images of a tumescent Billy Bowden.

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    Steve Rotheram MP says:

    I looked very Paul McCartney-like today, didnt I?

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    Ah! Monika says:

    Where did you emigrate to? is there any room?

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    Don’t know about our poor Balti friend but I certainly have… More often, more inexpensively and much more enjoyably since I left.

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    I hate you guys says:

    He looks like Starvin’ Marvin off South Park

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    Yes! Those reindeer have an aurora about them…

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    Steve Rotheram MP says:

    Didnt you think I looked very like Paul McCartney today?


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    And a minge you could hide a badger in…

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    kleegish says:

    Hillsborough was the sort of cock-up “that could never happen,” till it did, because all involved had their heads lodged firmly up their arses, refusing to see what was happening even as it happened. That a few brave souls actually managed to save lives kept this from becoming an even worse tragedy, if that were possible. The only purpose that can be served, however, by bringing it all out now instead of in due course, is to show just how clueless those whose job it was to prevent this sort of debacle were in preparing for such an eventuality. Unfortunately it will not prevent other people in charge from being clueless before, during and after the fact of any future shite hitting the fan, which cluelessness is a prerequisite for serving at even the highest levels; this is why we have the Grenders of the world to put bugs in the politicians’ ears.

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    Thanks anonymong for proving my point. You really are the 99%. You are using it right now!

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    Is ther an answer to decadence ? says:

    Some thoughts for co-conspirators


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    Is the an answer to decadence ? says:

    A short extract, please, to show that we are still thinking people

    “One cannot help thinking that, for Spengler and his likes, in a wider historical context, war and power politics offer a regenerative hope against the pervasive feeling of cultural despair. Yet, regardless of the validity of Spengler’s visions or nightmares, it does not take much imagination to observe in the decadence of the West the last twilight-dream of a democracy already grown weary of itself.”

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    O/T Newsflash (if im the 1st) says:

    O/T Boetang’s son has been caught doing a naughty bit of shagging sleeping women. Sounds genetic to me. Fcuk’s everyting they get involved in.

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    Sir Geoffrey's punchbag says:

    Normally I would agree but this must be the weakest non story even Guido has ever come up with. On this basis you might equally ask what measures are being put in place to ensure Daves stockbroking relatives have no access to market sensitive info, Gideons have no access to reburbishment requirements of govt departments and Baldrick Burnhams have no access to…….well just about anything except contraception.

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    Hi Ah! Moniker! Are you related to my owner, CRMM? I am presently 8km from the northern end of the Adriatic. Unusually for a cat, I swam in the sea only three days ago. There is plenty of room, but keep it a secret…

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    Knoxy Foxy says:

    I’m free

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    Anonymous says:

    Dale farm Gypsies told to fuck off at last

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    Philisopher says:

    A good paragraph

    “Morality and Our Behaviour

    Morality describes the principles that govern our behaviour. Without these principles in place, societies cannot survive for long. In today’s world, morality is frequently thought of as belonging to a particular religious point of view, but by definition, we see that this is not the case. Everyone adheres to a moral doctrine of some kind.”

    We are now in the phase of decadence which requires either deciding to adhere to certain principles or to no longer exist as a society.

    It is as bleak as that my friends, and no chasing of lobbyists, bent lawyers, politicians and the rest can make us escape from this choice….

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    Luciana Berger - who hasn't she shagged? says:

    Fair comment but she is hardly alone. Did you see the tv interview with Anne Milton on the nursing standards report? I had never before realised that both Julian Clary and Herman Munster were in her family tree.

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    Jack says:

    Typical New Labour, total decadence and Blairism

    Rape, pillage and fraud is New Labour philosophy

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    Luciana Berger - who hasn't she shagged? says:

    Then she has something to recommend her.

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    Anonymous says:

    Don’t complain about brussels Kipper Cameron loves to do exactly as they demand

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    Infuriated of West Mids says:

    Fuck me – is Paul Boateng a Lord now? I must have missed that.

    It gets worse and worse…

  134. 134
    Anonymous says:

    Thats RAB NESBIT in a syrup

  135. 135
    Luciana Berger - who hasn't she shagged? says:

    Well, Guido did name himself after a catholic nutter. Lets offer him a choirboy as a test.

  136. 136
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    Something I saw, a very very long time ago, was showing who it was who managed to whip up the fuss so that it became the right thing to do to “cage the bastards”. Yes, the newspapers. So no wonder they weren’t keen on blaming the cages, when they might as well have gone up there and built the cages. with spikes.

    Also very interesting that the bloke they get to, to talk to the media, isnt a scouser.

  137. 137
    Loosehead says:

    Think you’re reaching a bit for bad stuff this time. Some of us think stem cell research will end some pretty fucking nasty genetic diseases.
    And some of us like to eat steak once in a while, in between the gruel and the slops from our lord and masters rubbish bins.
    Lighten up, and pick some genuine targets.

  138. 138
    Jack says:

    Like that excellent Socialist Dominique Strass Kahn in France….

    It’s in the genes of socialists to abuse women, among other things

  139. 139

    As long as Zweckpessimismus still allows us to shag when we can, it is OK by me. The only thing they have not taxed … yet.

  140. 140

    Oh please! I spend a lot of time in Austria. They do not do that sort of thing every day.

    Only Mondays, Wednesdays and Saturdays.

  141. 141

    Оh plеаsе! І spеnd а lоt оf tіmе іn Аυstrіа. Thеy dо nоt dо thаt sоrt оf thіng еvеry dаy.

    Оnly Mоndаys, Wеdnеsdаys аnd Sаtυrdаys.

  142. 142
    Gerry Mandering says:

    Mere purveyors of F.U.D. – new improved F.U.D. as extensively tested in the underground labs of the IMF and the Bank of England.

    Keeps you on your toes.

  143. 143
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    What % of people can make a car?
    Probably none actually, they’re so damn complicated that no one person could make one. Not even an allegro. So cars aren’t any good.

    Most things probably aren’t written in C these days. Almost everything is however written in a language that inherits from C. (not intended as a pun, almost).

  144. 144
    Marianne Unfaithful says:

    Did you say Mars Bar ?

  145. 145
    nell says:

    Ah the boateng family. We haven’t heard too much about them since they were unceremoniously kicked out off sou th af ri ca.

    a bosom pal of bliar, paul boateng was made British high commisioner in so th af ri ca. And then virtually expelled from the country for his and his wife’s disgraceful, bullying treatment of their native staff. Once back in england he was promptly made a lord.

    His son obviously learned his poor morals and even worse manners from his labour parents.

    labour looks after it’s own! He and the baronessuddin have much in common.

  146. 146
    I Hate Tesco AND the Pope says:

    Do you mean Boateng, perchance? Please tell us more.

  147. 147
    nell says:

    Ah the boe tang family. We haven’t heard too much about them since they were unceremoniously kicked out off sou th af ri ca.

    a bosom pal of bliar, the father was made British high commisioner in so th af ri ca. And then virtually expelled from the country for his and his wife’s disgraceful, bullying treatment of their native staff. Once back in england he was promptly made a lord.

    His son obviously learned his poor morals and even worse manners from his labour parents.

    labour looks after it’s own! He and the baronessuddin have much in common.

  148. 148
    KGBeasties and Oligarchs says:

    We give them polonium, Nell

  149. 149
    Y fronts says:

    Do you really mean that polonium will give me a hardon ?

  150. 150

    Languages like C++ and Java, both developed from C.


  151. 151
    I love says:


  152. 152
    Fees Office Clerk says:

    Olly Grender..doesn’t he play for Man City?

  153. 153
    Nogbad the Bad says:

    Richard Davies as Clive Jenkins was sublime.

  154. 154
    catholic balti dodger Mancunian says:

    If its scum then
    yes it plays for Man Council house

  155. 155
    Lerxst says:

    She’s prepared to support stem cell research and defend the fact that medical research sometimes requires the use of animals? Excellent. Sounds like she ought to be made a minister rather than just a spin doctor.

  156. 156
    Nogbad the Bad says:

    See and hear the full effects of said reindeers flatulance

  157. 157
    Nogbad the Bad says:

    Sorry, I appear to be about to trump myself with this.

  158. 158
    catholic balti dodger Mancunian says:

    They make the fucking French seem normal
    1, put on leather shorts
    2, sit in pool of stale lager whilst wearing leather shorts
    3, drink 20 litres then rape eldest daughter in cellar
    Thats the eu

  159. 159
    Anonymous says:

    the organisation boasts that they represent Frankenstein doctors who experiment with stem-cells taken from new-born children like PLMR client Reneuron, and pro-puppy torturing and mouse-probing animal research organisations like UAR. PLMR also spin for the Brazilian Beef food processing industry, who George Monbiot accuses of “deforestation, slavery and murder”.

    Quick! Somebody alert Guido. It looks like Polly Toynbee has hacked his blog.

  160. 160
    Anonymous says:

    Lipstick on a Hyrda( just weird?)

  161. 161
    Anonymous says:

    Get the Mop!!!

  162. 162
    catholic balti dodger Mancunian says:

    He was indeed one of natures gentlemen
    Well known for slipping a bob or two to those in need
    His own Harry Dash , not other peoples money

  163. 163
    joescotus says:


  164. 164
    Politicians are CUNTS says:

    Bernard Ingram takes sole responsibility for the malicious and false statements he made about Liverpool fans at Hillsborough – the man is an insidious bastard

  165. 165
    Moley. says:

    For headline connoisseurs, here is a corker from Political Betting.

    “Would Ed M fare better if he dropped his Balls?”


    (The answer seems to be a resounding YES)!

  166. 166
    RED ED - SON OF BROWN says:

    My Union bosses

  167. 167

    Back to syllogism class for you I’m afraid.

  168. 168
    O/T Newsflash (if im the 1st) says:

    Terribly sorry about the spelling of the family name (couldn’t be arsed to look it up). Are you saying I should show more respect? If yes…please go forth and X.

  169. 169
    The important economic concept of the division of labour says:

    A single man could not make even so much as a single pencil from absolute scratch never mind a car.

  170. 170
    Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

    Any of them teenagers?

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  172. 172
    Lard Presclott of Bulimia, Bog Seats, Beams,Bellies,Banjos,Punches, Croquet, Pies, Jags 'n' Shags says:

    They’ll let anyone become a Lord these days. Tsk, tsk.

  173. 173
    Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

    Can you do anything for my image?

  174. 174
  175. 175
    Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

    And some LibDems.

  176. 176
    Anonymous says:

    I also recall that a certain then chairman of Chelsea advocate electrifying the cages

  177. 177
    Thumb Screw says:

    Get a life you sad fuck.

  178. 178
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Humble Pie Rockin the Filmore East
    Jimmy Thackery Wild Night Out

  179. 179
    the ruling elite says:

    We employ SpAds for that sort of thing over here.

  180. 180
    George Osborne says:

    Does Olly run a dungeon? If so I’m going to be hanging around Nick’s office a lot more. A LOT more.

  181. 181
    Mrs. Ball-Scooper ( triple flipper ) says:

    Goodnight, Ed.

  182. 182
    Afghanistan Banana Stand says:

    Didn’t she used to present ‘Game for a Laugh’ with Matthew Kelly?

  183. 183
    Dick Grippin' says:

    Monbiot is just a sixth column traitor whose existence is to provide the ruling class with enough cover to commit genocide against the indigenous British by importing a third world banking class to prop up the EU with common purpose marxist Muslims.

  184. 184
    Stephanie Flanders says:

    Hi Eds. Love you both, kissy kissy.

  185. 185
    AC1 says:

    +1 Weaker than piss.

  186. 186
    Anonymous says:

    Hmmmm…I wonder if the bloke who got this group of thirteen year olds to line up like this has been arrested yet.

  187. 187
    Divine Sarah says:

    Sir William: that makes far too much sense. You really can’t expect anyone on this blog to accept a well-reasoned argument with no references to physical shortcomings and sexual deviance. Plus random swearing.

  188. 188
    The Paragnostic says:

    Unfortunately I’m in the 0.1% – but then again I never was one for herds…

    C is still the #1 language for embedded applications – the programs that control everything from your fancy washing machine to the ECU of your car are most probably written in C, unless some über-traditionalist has a fetish for assembler :-)

    The core parts of your operating system are in C, the webserver that serves these pages is most likely written in C, if you write in Java, the virtual machine that runs the bytecode is written in C, if you choose any language at all it is almost 100% that the interpreter and/or compiler is written in C.

    So yes – it is that fucking good.

  189. 189
    The Paragnostic says:

    Almost makes you miss Clive Jenkins when you see the current crop of thugs running the unions – I can’t imagine Bob Crow being fondly remembered by anyone except his boyfriend.

  190. 190
    Gordon Brown says:

    I cleaned up politics.

  191. 191
    The Paragnostic says:

    Ok, Cat – I’ll stop using emoticons.

    It’s my second childhood, you see…

  192. 192
    The Paragnostic says:

    Josef Fritzl – the man who put the ‘semen’ in basement…

  193. 193
    The Paragnostic says:

    Floella Benjamin’s in the Lords too – she got in through the Round Window…

  194. 194

    Spades of SpAds are no replacement for a good education, even if self-taught.

  195. 195
    Ah! Monika says:

    Chris Huhne, speaking post the Energy ” meeting “, was noticeable nervous, most unlike him. does he anticipate something coming soon? didn’t turn up to newsnight studio tonight !!

  196. 196

    I have not misspent my first one properly yet! I have spent a lot of time in my life trying not to look too deliriously happy as people really do start to think I am up to something I shouldn’t be … and that is normally about something I should not have done but have.

  197. 197
    The gay actress says:

    My boomerang won’t come back…

  198. 198
    Tony B liar says:

    No I cleaned up

  199. 199
    Ah! Monika says:

    Chris Huhne, sp ea king post the Energy ” meeting “, was noticeable nervous, most unlike him. does he anticipate something coming soon?

  200. 200
    Ah! Monika says:

    didn’t turn up to newsnight studio tonight !!

  201. 201

    I have not misspent my first one properly yet! I have spent a lot of time in my life trying not to look too deliriously happy as people really do start to think I am up to something I shouldn’t be … and that is normally about something I should not have done but have.
    I never got to learn C++ although I did program extensively in Basic (QB4) at a time when there were no apps to do the financial projections that I needed to do. I found it very interesting as it forced me to really understand IRR, NPV etc.. I had previously left that to the accountants most of whom, I found out later, didn’t even know themselves.

    On the basis of this work, I managed to raise £250m in the 80s and early 90s. Not bad for an ignoramus. In the last decade, they would only lend that level of money to an ignoramus.

  202. 202
    The Paragnostic says:

    Funny, isn’t it, how German political thought developed from Hegel, via Marx, to Spengler (who is really just a disillusioned Hegelian, when all is said and done) – the sense of historical determinism serving both Left and Right almost as a pivot on which to swing…

    I think every generation despairs of the degeneracy of youth, the loss of good taste and manners, the sense that things somehow do not seem to work as well as they did in our own youth – and it has to be said that pessimism is a comforting outlook on life, it being so often rewarded with examples to justify its adoption.

    “We’re all fucked” – that has been the cry of the jaded observer throughout the ages, but somehow the world keeps turning, people keep (for the most part) living more or less satisfying lives, and the recurrent worries of incipient disaster are shown not to be well founded.

    The one German contribution to life that I cherish most, and that brightens most of my days, is…


  203. 203
    Osama the Nazarene says:

    …and its heritage is Algol.

  204. 204

    My life has been a sequence of nested functions…

  205. 205
    The Paragnostic says:

    Nowt wrong with Basic, Cat – use the tools you’ve got.

    My first proper (i.e. used for work) program was in Basic on an Apple IIe, and it’s come in handy in several jobs over the past 25 years or so. I only learned C when I needed it back in the 90s – the same as any other skill. Hell, I only learned Java because the programmer left and there wasn’t anyone else to fix the product…

  206. 206

    Fuck off, Voice of Treason! I’ve seen video footage (which was also shown at the Taylor Enquiry) of some of those unfortunate scouse fans near the front of the stand trying to push their way to the back only to be beaten back, literally, by their late arriving co-fans swarming through the tunnel at the back of the stand.

    For some reason this footage has never been televised. I wonder why?

    Also, who would the scousers like to blame for the deaths of 37 Belgians at Heysel Stadium?

  207. 207

    There were also several Liverpool fans who gave evidence at the Taylor Enquiry who admitted going to the game without tickets. They also admitted that Liverpool fans who did this often congregated around one gate at the ground they were visiting and stormed them in order to force the gates open and enable access.

    In fact Scouse fans did the same thing at Chelsea a few weeks after the disaster. Something else that seems to have been kept from the public.

  208. 208


    H*Y* GUISE




  209. 209

    Monbiot is quoted here in support of a point made about a client organisation of one of Olly Grender’s former employers. Would I be right in assuming that Guido does not normally line up as a fan of young George?

    Oh, yes:




    So why is the “eco-toff” now suddenly a legit source of support for a Guido argument?

  210. 210

    Get a life and a sense of humour at the same time.

  211. 211
    Blue Eyes says:

    You know perfectly well that Guido like any politician will clutch at anything which will help further his argument. For example I never had Guido down as a Bible-belt Christian anti-stem-cell zealot but here it is in black and white. Never had Guido down as a backer of the lunatic animal rights front, but it seems I was wrong.

    Why make a good point well when you can bring hyperbole and hysteria into the frame to drum up controversy?

    It’s almost as though Guido was running for Governor of Georgia.

  212. 212

    Get a life? Always a good answer.

  213. 213
    Beowulf says:

    Grender should take the hint and leave quietly, rather than wait until her arm is twisted to make her quit the Great Hall forever.

  214. 214
    oddly helpful says:

    I believe that this is known in His Wife’s Forces as ‘an uniform’.

  215. 215
    ta4nowt says:

    You poor wretch Chris Hoon – who would want a bovine like that near them? I’d rather shag a rug. Think of the nightmares lad

  216. 216
    ta4nowt says:

    With a face like her’s she’d be chucked out of The Munsters for being too ugly

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