October 13th, 2011

Big Blow For Fox

The Heff, with a seemingly heavy heart, has called for Fox to go:

It is what we now know about what the two men did in the public eye that makes Dr Fox’s position so precarious.

If even some of us who are sympathetic to Dr Fox’s politics feel he now lacks the credibility to do his job, what must his opponents think?

At the moment, he is dying  by inches in public with each new revelation about his behaviour.

Heffer’s assertion comes on the back of another round of dodgy headlines for Defence Secretary. The news that private donors were running their own adviser for Fox in order to by-pass the Civil Service is only going to anger more people. Especially as there is no declaration of interest. Werritty looks set to be interviewed again today by Sue Gray, the Cabinet Office’s Director of Propriety and Ethics. You have to wonder how he will react to being compared to Walter Mitty…


111 Comments

  1. 1
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Its a shame, Like Laws, fox did seem a decent minster.

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    • 10
      Ken Clarke says:

      To his friends, anyway.

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      • 14
        Anonymous says:

        It looks like a bribe and sounds like a bribe. There needs to be an police investigation to establish whether its a bribe.

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        • 15
          Ken Clarke says:

          Yep – one more corrupt bloody chimp, helping his mates to the sandwiches while talking piously to the press about his high standards. I’m not sure there’s one of them fit & proper to run a brothel.

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          • Hey take it easy MPs are suffering mental distress over their expenses, give them a break it isn’t easy poor poor MPs.

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          • Rage Against the Political Elite says:

            Of course there is But only a GAY one.

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          • Liam Fox says:

            Look, I told you the man is a Walter Mitty stalker, who I met socially and who has followed me around ever since.
            Wherever I went on business, pleasure or officially, he would just turn up. It was uncanny, as if he knew where I would be at all times and what I was doing there.
            I don’t to this day know how he does it, why I even found him living with me, how on earth did he manage that?

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        • 55
          Rage Against the Political Elite says:

          Cameroon needs to show a bit of Back Bone and get rid, or are the whole lot of them all the same with their secret lovers advisors or whatever you call them on the side, setting up businesses to alleviate the TAX PAYER. or Trough and pass the proceeds on?
          Complicated Fraud takes more than Two to Tango, Ask Bliar I am sure he would know how to defend someone in that position being a legal eagle and all, Is it why most of the Politico’s are Lawyers so they can stay one Step ahead of the Law?

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      • 20
        Joshua Tetley and Son says:

        “”David Cameron would look as weak as John Major if he allowed Dr Liam Fox to be hounded out by a sustained campaign of Labour and media pressure, the Defence Secretary has told friends.””

        Seems Liam is trying a little fox like cunningness….

        Trying to back Cameron into a corner

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        • 47
          Anonymous says:

          What will our solders fighting in Afghanistan think about Fox’s life style on government expense and brown envelopes while they risk their life every day.

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          • Rage Against the Political Elite says:

            Yes especially if he is keeping them their due to being blackmailed about his sexuality and maybe a few Pictures taken by some security types or Tape recordings, You know the type. If I was in the business of selling Bullets and Bombs or making a kick back from it. I would keep the military in action. I mean who would cut off the money supply.

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          pissed off voter says:

          Mr Fox has seriously erred and will be severely dealt with. We know we can trust DC on this ‘cos we saw how firmly he stuck to his word on the EU, and noone could forget how hard he was on those expense cheats who happened to be in his social circle. Dave is not a man to tolerate malpractice, remember how he dropped Coulson at the first sniff of skulduggery and, of course, he abandoned Brooks immediately there was the slightest suggestion of her involvement in the NOTW. Yep, Mr Fox should fear the wrath of our Dave.

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      • 67
        my prick up your arse says:

        and to dorothy

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      Polly's Villa in Tuscany says:

      Oh Dear, Adam is likely to throw a big homo hissy-fit after being dissed by his sugar-daddy. Fox is farked.

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  2. 2
    TheDukeOfHunslet says:

    Can someone just say please… Is he a chutney chuckle brother or not? And were any MOD glass coffee tables harmed during this sordid fiasco?

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  3. 3
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Guido

    As you pointed out that today is the great Ladys birthday, does this mean we will get a Maggie Thread today?

    Maybe with some of her greatest quotes etc?

    Anyway, if not and if i may?

    Happy Birthday Maggie x

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    • 19
      codswallop says:

      Seconded. Happy Birthday Lady T.

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    • 57
      Father Ted says:

      The loss of Fox will be a great blow for the Thatcherites – Mark Thatcher that is.

      He was another forgetful individual. Forgot where he was on the Paris-Dakar rally, forgot to mention he was loan sharking in South Africa, forgot he had purchased a helicopter that was used for an attempted coup.

      …forgot he was an arms dealer like a few of Fox’s circle.

      On the other hand, Dave keeping him there helps trash the remaining Thatcherites in his party.

      Nice job Dave.

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      • 98
        Nemo says:

        He couldbe the next lord Thatcher as Maggies peerage is inherited unless the heredity succession act comes into force the his sister will then get it.

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  4. 4
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    FT : a fine piss take. Made me laugh for a bit until I remind myself that this is the laser guided munitions of lobbying.

    You could pay one hundred dull back benchers stand up and make your point for you, and it wouldnt hit the target quite as well as getting your man sitting at the end of the table.

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  5. 5
    Tony Bliar is a complete cunt says:

    politicians are rotten to the core……

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  6. 6
    Jack says:

    Empty Ed is organising the “Occupy the Stock Exchange” on Saturday

    He thinks stockbrokers work on Saturdays because he is constantly coocooned in Primrose Hill every weekend, with only a trip to Hampstead to get his orders on Sundays…and has never done one day’s work in the private sector in his life FFS

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    • 21
      Sir Trev says:

      It appears most of these protestors are either unemployed, students, travellers or government employees, in other words they do not contribute to society financially but drain it of cash.

      This is all about the greedy water drinkers, as the water carriers are hard at work paying their taxes to feed these protestors.

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    • 31
      Steve Miliband says:

      Ed thinks the stock exchange is where celebrity chefs go to swap liquid flavoring bases used for soups and sauces.

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    • 34
      misterned says:

      The lefties are desperate to take over the ‘Occupy’ movement to turn it into another lefty excuse to bitch about the rich.

      This is sad. I have several friends in the states who were part of the first protests. This is NOT anti-capitalist, NOT left wing, NOT about stealing from the rich to give to the “undeserving poor”.

      This is a reaction to the ‘corporatist’ (NOT capitalist) corruption and flagrant in-your-face fraud and theft from millions of ordinary, hard working people who have seen their businesses crash and burn without any help whatsoever from the state or the banks.

      This is about raw naked and controlled fury at having that self-same state bend over backwards and rape main-street to bail out the fraudsters and criminal thieves of Wall Street.

      This is not about stealing from the rich to give to the poor, but about stopping the rich from using the government to openly steal from everyone else. Stopping never ending and ever increasing bail-outs and government subsidy for billionaires.

      These protesters have rightly told the lying presstitutes at Fox, MSNBC, CNN etc to fuck off. They have told Obama’s people to fuck off, they have told Rick Perry’s people to fuck off, They have told Mitt Romney’s people to fuck off. They are against the mainstream media and mainstream politicians who are robbing America blind. They are against the Republican and Democrats.

      Yes there are some weird and bizzarre whackos amongst the multitudes of protesters across American cities and the same lying mainstream media who lied about Iraq, and lied about Bin Laden, lied about the extent of the fraud committed by the big banks, lied about just about everything to prop-up the corrupt corporatocracy, are zooming in on the wierdo-whackos in order to try to misrepresent the movement. That misrepresentation is not working in America.

      Sadly it appears to be working in the UK. The “Occupy” movement in the UK seems to be almost entirely a left wing, pro-labour, pro-union, pro vested interest movement which is COMPLETELY missing the fucking point!

      The Occupy movement in the UK appears to be just wanting the government to give in to different vested interests, instead of NO vested interests.

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      • 72
        Father Abraham says:

        Did you write that all yourself or lift all/part of it ? If it’s all your own then I congratulate you. Nail hit firmly on the head.

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    • 89
      Cato Street Conspirator says:

      ‘He thinks stockbrokers work on Saturdays…’ I thought they worked every effing day god sends. Isn’t that why they deserve their massive ‘compensation’ for doing what Steptoe & Son used to do?

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    • 101
      Nemo says:

      Empty Ed is organising the “Occupy the Stock Exchange” on Saturday, why not 7 days a week a lot of people do, it’s a global market now

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    Displaced Brummie says:

    Gosh. Heffer is still writing! Who knew? Who cares?

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  8. 8
    Hansard writer says:

    When you run a coach and horse through MOD security, the Official Secrets Act and the Code of Ministerial Conduct, are you really surprised that Heff says he must go.

    Otherwise, the whole system is ridiculed and is in an advanced state of collapse

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  9. 9
    Anonymous says:

    Does the old saying “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned” apply to former (very) close friends? We might be about to find out.

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  10. 11
    EdMiliband says:

    At a time when negotiations are still…….oops

    Millie Dowler…….sorry will get the hang of this soon

    Too fast too deep?

    What is the capital of Angola?

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  11. 17
    Adam Werritty says:

    Ooh Liam you ungrateful wanker! How could you betray me by going back to your Tory loves? After all the helpful advice, not to mention the stimulation I provided to your personal boundaries! Well just for that I’m running away with Tom Watson and you’ll never see me again!

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  12. 18
    Ah! Monika says:

    Serious news:-Say goodbye to underwires, cup sizes and straps: Genie Bra designed to ‘move with your figure’ launches in Tesco and Bhs

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2048324/Genie-Bra-designed-figure-launches-Tesco-Bhs.html#ixzz1aeK8AXEY

    And how are we ( straights ) supposed to undo them?

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    • 36
      Dunlaggin says:

      You’re probably not supposed to be wearing them.

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    • 39
      Stinkfinger says:

      By using the flip,flop method.
      Flip bra over boobs so they can flop out.

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    • 41

      synopsis “The incredible Mr Fox.”

      Along the way,Fox meet Badger who is starving due to the farmers’ siege of the hillside. Mr Fox, feeling responsible for the whole affair, invites him to a feast made from the loot. At the feast, the animals decide to make an underground town where they will be safe, while discreetly obtaining food from the farmers.

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    • 58
      jgm2 says:

      That’s just a sports bra. There’s no ‘support’ in that – it just crushes their tits against their body so they don’t fly all over the place.

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  15. 25
    UN observer says:

    It’s Bicom again….

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    • 53

      Did the coalition say the crisis would be over?
      I thought it was just Ed Balls saying that that was what the coalition said.

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      • 64
        Steve Miliband says:

        Basically we’re fucked.
        The Coalition said it would be ‘choppy’.
        Balls says his mob had put the country into recovery and growth before the too fast too deep cuts that haven’t actually happened.
        Balls forgets the £200bn QE induced growth, but also inflation

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        • 79
          Archer Karcher says:

          Why can’t the useless bastards just stop spraying money around like confetti on useless vanity projects, that benefit none but an unelected elite?
          Like the EU, overseas aid, high speed rail links, wind fcuking farms etc? We are bust you stupid pricks and it was caused by useless politicians spending billions like drunks, on shit of the day ‘initiatives’.

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  17. 29
    Call me Dave - windy miller, eco loon and trougher says:

    Getting a little chilly now! Don’t forget to pay your power bills before clearing your credit card balance.

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    • 83
      Very Wealthy Wind Farm Gentry says:

      Stop snivelling your ” I can’t afford it” pleading at me granny. My pals in government tell me you have £5 a week left over on your pension each week. Well I want another £7 weekly, so hand it over. Cut back on other luxuries or freeze gran, I don’t care.

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    Well it's a thought says:

    Somewhere along the line I heard that Foxy was a Eurosceptic, he’s been a very naughty boy and deserves a wrist slap and a jail sentence for lapses in security but did he slip or was he pushed! or who clatted on him and was it for honest reasons.

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    • 44
      Alky Al Campbell, Britain's answer to Baghdad Bob says:

      Look at the list of his backers in the Mail

      Very revealing

      They were, of course, not lobbying for anyone

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    • 104
      Nemo says:

      I feel the Life of Brian coming on, “yes, he is just a very naughty boy, a very naughty litls boy”

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  19. 37
    Hoopa says:

    I think it is about time Scottish men and women ran their own government in Scotland

    The current breed of Scots appears far too aggressive in their pursuit and retention of power

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    • 105
      Nemo says:

      Yes true, then all those with Scottish names can all be shipped north, still a lot of Scottish names in the houses of parliament

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  20. 38
    Alky Al Campbell, Britain's answer to Baghdad Bob says:

    Shillings and pence are watching us

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    • 40
      Well it's a thought says:

      With 10p in my bank account they can watch all they want, they have to have people with money to take to court, not crap like us with our ar&es hanging out of our kecks.

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    Ah! Monika says:

    Criminals are increasingly choosing illegally-acquired stun guns as their weapon of choice, a Sky News investigation has revealed.

    If householders were allowed to use them we wouldn’t need to use knives and end up charged with murder.

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  22. 43
    tory boys never grow up says:

    Have the Sunlight Ops yet written to the Electoral Commission asking them to investigate whether Dr Fox declared the alleged donation to support his political activities (i.e paying for his assistant) – or do they only do that for Labour politicians?? One could also ask whether the alleged donors were involved in a conspiracy to avoid reporting the donation.

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  23. 45
    TheRagingTory says:

    A defence minister, frustrated with the intransigence of dishonest of disruptive Civil Service, uses an intermediary to bypass their lies and half truths, and the Minister is the one at fault?

    Perhaps if the CS asked the questions Fox actualy told them to ask, and gave the answers the defence establishement actualy gave, he wouldnt have felt the need to go around them?

    But no, lets punish the minister for trying to do his job the only way he could….

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  24. 49
    tory boys never grow up says:

    Of course, if the Electoral Commission were to investigate the precedent set by Peter Hain would be for Fox to resign as a minister so that he could concentrate on clearing his name!

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  25. 50
    Hava Nagila says:

    Big blow? Ha! What a queer headline.

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  26. 52
    Hampstead Hedgi says:

    Which PR firm is acting for Fox ?

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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    pissed off voter says:

    O/T what is going on with Huhne. Frigging CPS can handle 2000 looters in two weeks but take an eternity with one lying prick.

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  29. 80
    Anonymous says:

    Just read Heff’s article – WTF is this about?

    It would be better for Liam Fox to go now, not least because a dignified departure would allow him to resume office in two or three years.

    Firstly how can he now depart in a dignified way? Secondly what is it about the Political elite (ha ha) and their friends in the press lobby that makes them think they are some sort of super class of people who are immune to wrong doing?

    And before you all start on about Mandelson etc. etc. please do not let this become a Party Political issue – that is just what they want. They are all crooks and deserve no sympathy or support.

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      Benjamin_The_Donkey says:

      Why would anyone want him to “return in two or three years”? Would one want a bent copper to be back in the force after two or three years? (Sorry Mr Hayman.)

      If there is so little talent in British public life, then we really are f***ed!

      Time to revive Bills Of Attainder: deprive the dodgy ones (in ALL Parties) of the loot they made since entering politics. I wouldn’t execute them – just sentence them to 25 years in a council flat in Salford – with apologies in advance to the other residents.

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  30. 81
    Anonymous says:

    `Apparently David Cameron can’t sack Liam Fox because – and I am not making this up – he has a cat.’ (Reported in Telegraph @DAaronovitch )

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  31. 82
    Penfold says:

    Werrity can of course tell Sue Gray to go to hell and refuse to answer any questions put to him, he’s not a civil servant and not subject to her procedures.

    But the Heff is right, Fox must resign and step down as an MP, the disclosures are highly damaging and are being drip fed for max effect and damage.

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  32. 85
    Mine's a nine says:

    That Simon Heffer’s a nice looking lad.

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  33. 88
    Larry says:

    Here is one part of the story that is going uncommented upon, according to one of Craig Murray’s sources on the inside

    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/10/the-real-werritty-scandal/

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    • 90
      Anonymous says:

      This absolutely does not surprise me. They are all in it together. Civil Servants and MPs. I mean why the heck was Fox’s top Civil Servant asked to look into it in the first place – he’s her boss FFS. Then they bring in GoD who will do exactly what Camerion wants him to – as he did for Bliar and Brown. Has GoD ever found anyone guilty of anything?
      Where are the press?

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      • 91
        Anonymous says:

        I think that if there is a smoking gun it may be found in Fox’s decleration of interests (or not as I suspect). If you watched his performance on Tuesday it was the one area where his voice really started to waver. Given what we now know about Werrity and his funding and the Charity, Fox needs to have put it all down and I do not think he has.

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    tory boys never grow up says:

    Does anyone know if Adam Werrity is a member of the Tory Party – if so the following extracts from PPERA may be of interest to him, should he wish to argue (or be persuaded) that he was acting on his own accord and not as a political assistant to Dr Fox.

    (3) “Controlled donation”—
    (a) in relation to a member of a registered party, means a donation received
    by that person which is—
    (i) offered to him, or
    (ii) where it has been accepted, retained by him,
    for his use or benefit in connection with any of his political activities as
    a member of the party;

    (4) For the purposes of this Schedule the political activities of a party member
    or (as the case may be) of a members association include, in particular—
    (a) promoting or procuring the election of any person to any position in, or
    to any committee of, the party in question;
    (b) promoting or procuring the selection of any person as the party’s
    candidate for election to a relevant elective office; and
    (c) promoting or developing policies with a view to their adoption by the
    party;

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    • 94
      Anonymous says:

      No I’m sure that that nice Mr Fox would stand by his best man and not throw him to the wolves (or the Electoral Commission).

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  35. 95
    Brigadier John Dennis Profumo, 5th Baron Profumo CBE says:

    Guido said Werritty is like Walter Mitty. Isn’t he more like Zelig?

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  36. 108
    Kered Ybretsae says:

    Fox is being too foxey and spending more time defending himself, than doing the job he gets paid for.

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  37. 111
    Anonymous says:

    about that leaked letter from Fox to the PM last year……Mr Werrity involved there ? a question worth asking prhaps ?

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