Fox: “Why Don’t You Just Say What You Mean, Kevan?”
Labour’s Chris Bryant did his part to muddy the waters around Liam Fox this morning by tweeting: “I’m perplexed by this smear and innuendo about ‘smears and innuendo’.” An infinite loop of smear and innuendo…
There is a rumour doing the rounds that the Guardian have been sitting on some rather saucy details about Werritty and Fox since last Thursday, with the editor believing that Fox’s position is untenable without the need for the full picture being disclosed. In the mean time the rest of the media seem to be trying rather hard to get a message out there…
Sky News defence correspondent Niall Paterson said in a live broadcast that the Defence Secretary is “not normal”. He later sent a tweet presumably in an attempt at clarification claiming “’twas in the context of making clear that secs of state don’t usually bring their pals on trips”. Quite.
The Mail have a bit of a mixed message. Political Editor James Chapman has gone on the attack, implying that Labour are playing dirty:
“Last night, for instance, Labour’s defence spokesman Kevan Jones, responding to Dr Fox’s apology, declared: ‘This is a man in denial.’ Why don’t you just say what you mean, Kevan?”
Yet his Mail colleague Peter McKay has gone the furthest of any hack yet, pushing the same idea as Kevan Jones:
“There is a final, delicate reason why Cameron and Co might have shied away from dealing with Fox’s private and public association with Werritty. Although Fox has denied rumours that he is gay, his friendship with Werritty seems to go beyond what many might consider is normal in male friendships. But the more-inclusive-than-thou Cameron would instinctively steer clear of querying it.”
“Querying”, eh?
“Got Aides Liam”
Its about time we adopted the high level of democratic standards seen in Venezuela
“The recall mechanism was introduced into Venezuelan law in 1999 under the new Constitution drafted by the National Constituent Assembly and sanctioned by the electorate in a referendum. Venezuela’s implementation of recall allows the elected head of state to be subject to it. This was most clearly demonstrated when President Chavez had to fight a recall election on 15 August 2004. Despite opposition allegations of fraud, President Chavez survived with close to 60% of the vote.”
Even f***ing Chavez has more backbone than this lot.
Call an election
Seconded!
Tits- no response, fannys- nothing, bums- faint stirings, MOD contract- full on purple headed tumescence.
which hole does this fox sniff?
In a parallel world Fox could be leader of the Tories by now having to have the biggest bum fight sorry bun fight for his life.
Cameron will never go in front of voters until he hasn’t got any choice.
Cameron will not go before the electorate until our work is complete.
Liam Fox fucks men.
I’m sure DC knows his place, Herman.
We must put a stop to these “forced marriages” as evidenced by Fox and Hague.
Getting rid of Fox will kil* the story, keeping Fox will damage Cameron as it happened with Andy. But then again injured Fox will fight Cameron from back bencher’s so Cameron might be giving time for dogs to finish Fox off for good.
Looks like Fox will make a statement in the next few minutes. Fox might go into hiding to fight another day.
He’s not due in the HoC at 2.30pm to answer routine “Defence Questions” followed immediately at 3.30pm by a “Personal Statement..The Rt Hon Liam Fox Secretary of State for Defence”…..will it be a case of “Je ne regrette rien ?” or “Mea Culpa ?” His fate will rest on how he does and the reaction of the House
Should read of course: He’s not due in the HoC UNTIL at 2.30pm
There are lots of journalised in front of MOD. We are still not sure where the statement will be.
“Hounds” not “dogs”, Please!
Tally-ho !
Yes Guido, But didnt include the sick smear that Rich and Mark wrote.
would you have used that line if the rumour was about him being straight?
I have a confession to make !
I’m a batty boy.
Jeez, it’s just buggery, buggery , buggery in the MoD and the FO…at least the French establishment are hetro in thier foibles. Bring on Silvio any day.
More rampant totty for the rest of us then !!
You iz batty – no punani for you, queerboy
Yup, give me a bunga bunga party any day over the daisy chaining charms of the Tory Lavender Hill Mob.
Silvio is a Spaghi, not Froggie.
That aside, I agree with your sentiments entirely.
FU Billy!
Do think that Guido made a spelling mistake “Querying”, eh?
Is Liam close to the Rear Admiral ?
Too close!
This smearing poor old Liam Fox has to stop. It is despicable, and I have said so in the local Newspaper.
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/east-hampshire/portsmouth_mp_backs_under_fire_defence_secretary_1_3136863
I am backing him, because, if he survives, he will back me in future troubles that I am anticipating.
Well done Mike. Is he one of us? Jahbulon.
Let’s talk about what a shopping safari can do to improve obesity rates in your hospital.
Who cares (apart from Mrs Fox possibly) whether Fox is gay and Werritty is his boyfriend or whether they are just friends?
It’s what Werritty was up to as an “adviser” that is the issue.
Hear hear.
Really? So if a male Minister was bringing his girlfriend along on official trips that is OK as well? Why are the Gayers afforded all this b*llocks about privacy when the hetros dont get it?? Double standards.
+1
Not really, taking a boyfriend/girlfriend, or bifriend should all be against rules especially if they then tout the local gun clubs and militia for business in your name. Our elite are incapable of reform they really just think that getting caught is the problem. This chap Fox is a clear example of moral turpitude, at best he’s average at his job (and if you don’t know what average means these days, it means fucking awful). Still Cameron is 100% behind him so no problems there then.
Yeah. So the man is cheating on his wife with another man but heyho he’s a Tory and a rightwinger to boot so let’s all give him that free pass that as a bender he so richly deserves.
Is this like the story of Sly Fox and Bare Bear?
Just a thought but didn’t labour ban fox hunting!
Laim Fox
This is true Farmer Giles, but, if I were you I’d keep quiet about that – you might just give some smart arsed lawyer mate of Liam’s an idea, and with the current crop of judges they might well be able to swing the argument in court.
The rest of the media? Daily Mash?
If anyone isn’t sensible enough to read it:
“McCartney hoping this one isn’t mad”
“BBC2 replaced by squirrel with huge genitals”
You saying satire doesn’t have a pretty good track record at holding a mirror up to what’s really going on in the media?
Me saying you article is a bit random.
Beats the fucking Gruniard
Dahlings we really have to get to the bottom of this rather sordid gossipy story!
I always wondered why his co** tasted like Blairs Breath
So Fox is an iron, surprise, surprise.
It seems that half of the political establishment are either out and out shirtlifters or still hiding in the closet.
It looks like Fox is half out of the closet. This is from his own web site:
“he served as Shadow Secretary of State for Heath before being appointed Co-Chairman of the Party”
Hampstead Heath or Ted Heath? It matters not!
It must be Fox’s dream job
Wikipedia page much changed today.
Why is it that homosexuality is perfectly OK in a Labour politician but somehow subject to massive media attention in a Conservative?
Nothing wrong with homosexuality anywhere. But it’s the denial.
Well said Stavros….
We want politicians to be of strong enough character to come out of the closet….
oh and not be open to blackmail by hiding it
Politicians never learn it seems…it’s not the fact of the “crime” or particular alleged sexual pre-delictions(which I suspect the majority of the electorate don’t give a flying fuck about as long as the said Minister is doing his/her job…. unless of course it impinges on integrity of Minister concerned and/or the security of the state) that does for ‘em but the cover up and denial in the face of the evidence that does it in the end……………..
Of course there is something wrong with it. It is a totally unnatural act and to pretend otherwise is to ignore the bleeding obvious.
Feels natural to me when I’ve got a cock throbbing against my G-spot.
Or in Fox’s case the bleeding orifice!
I dunno. There was this site I used to visit where they were on and on about Hague and his Spad. Forget what it was called now.
Hansard!
Who gives a toss what he gets up to in his bedroom.
The thing about fox is that he was taking a friend who was not a member of the govt on ministerial trips and allowing that friend to use the minister’s contacts to further his business interests. To exacerbate matters further liamfox has been found to be a shareholder in werrity’s business.
It’s unethical, its unprofessional its unacceptable and he must resign.
you’ve missed a bit. Werrity used to be an expert in health.
“For the past decade Adam Werritty’s career has mirrored the political career of Dr Liam Fox, moving seamlessly between fields as far removed as health care and the defence industry. ” (from telegraph).
Quite sockpuppet!
As much as I think he has been an exemplary minister of defence, more than can be said for all the ministers of defence for the 13 years before him, his personal conduct in respect of promoting his friends business interests and his own, just smells horribly and he must resign!
What you mean is that he had a money spinner from ‘health’ when he was ‘helping’ his ‘close male friend’ who happened to be shadow health secretary at the time.
If I can come back, he can come back !!
“Who gives a toss what he gets up to in his bedroom.”
Maybe his wife but what the heck, in a modern Tory progressive Britan can’t a married man shove his cock up another man’s arse without being censured.
Sorry nell, you don’t seem up to speed on what politics is for. The whole point of being in it is to help your mates and yourself to as much dosh as possible, even better if you can have shares in or be a ‘consultant’ for some of the companies you are handing out government (that’s your money) out to.
It’s a wonderful system but only open to the ‘right sort’ of people. Don’t worry their track record over the last 30 years should put your mind at ease that given enough time they’ll fuck up the place to such an extent that they can just walk away with their cash and the rest of us can get on hunting for turnips in the EU (German) owned fields. Not long now I’d say.
Because he’s married, dear.
There was a massive outcry when Matthew Parris accidentally outed Peter Mandelson.
http://youtu.be/2k1-kh6HbHQ Fox on the Run
So Guido, did anyone else accuses him of having “Aides” ?
FFS Billy, put a sock in it.
Sock, I said.
Bring on the Gimp! (The Redbull Junkies)
This scene from Pulp Fiction and the forest rape scene in Deliverance are Adam and my two favourite film scenes of all time. They really get us going.
Is your name suggestive of being a Surrey CCC fan?
Maybe Liam qualifies for a bit of Foreign Aid now?
Setting aside the fact that I think liamfox should do the honorable thing and resign.
Is this kevan you’re on about, the one and same worthless kevan that was aintbustinagut’s right hand man in the mod, one of labour’s finest backstabbers and smearers? The same one that troughed £300k for his personal account whilst watching our lads go to war without proper body armour etc?
people in glass houses Kev ………..
Kevan Jones is a spiteful little shit.
They are all married closet homosexuals? I remember Hague going through this. Nonsense. Liam Fox and his pal are greedy, corrupt opportunists. Nowt queer in corrupt, self serving, politicians.
Oh I get it, he’s a rabid pillow-biting ass bandit. You should have just said. I wouldn’t let any of those types into government.
That’s just pants.
Neither would I. its disgusting.
I believe they even shared a narrow boat during the 2010 Tory Conference.
Guido and Neo Guido?
Yes, but no-one accused them of having “aides”.
Billy, you love the attention you get on here for being gay, you old slapper.
They probably shared the boat’s golden rivet as well.
I see keith Harris taking the piss out of him for the company he keeps, Whatever next, George Galloway saying he’s making a dick of himself?
yeah, bearing in mind that Harris has a hand up Orville’s bottom !
Oops, sorry, wrong Harris !!
No. I did mean that one. I was being silly.
I’ve not followed the link but ‘seen elsewhere’ suggests that Orange George does indeed have something to say on the matter.
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I don’t see any mass movement against membership or hear an outcry to leave.
I see Dave has given Fox his full support.
Foxy gone by bedtime then.
Support ?? a gentleman’s support no doubt, very sporting.
You’ll read it here first. Fox is staying, it was all a silly mistake I have learned my lesson.
DC is sticking to his give a man a chance routine, people change will be the quote.
Funny thing is, politicians don’t change, they just steal your change.
Please send £5 to a political party of your choice otherwise the country will go to pot.
Thankyou for co-operation.
Remember “Dave” says to also pay off your credit card bill and show some good old British Spunk
There’s too much spunk flying around IMHO.
The love that dare not spell its name…
I don’ t know if Fox is a homosexual or not, but what I do know is if a male Tory Minister had gone away with some fit blonde in a very short skirt fucking CVNTS like Harman would be up in arms.
We saw this with Laws, he got off very lightly because of his homosexuality when most people think he should be in prison.
Oh, do stop being so beastly to that lovely Dr Fox! I’m off to Downing St to be part of the big, inclusive coalition love-in!
Q u ê ê r y i n g it I assume, Watson ?
I think we are into post Q u ê ê r y i n g T h e o r y now…
I love all this tenderness for homos
If a Minister has a mistress (God forbid) paid on expenses, organising meetings etc, he (and the misstress) would be massacred by the press
Discrimination in favour of homos ?
Queery, query…so many queeries…… Chop off ‘is knob and be done with it !!
Chop off ‘is knob and be done with it !!
You don’t have to be Hercule Poirot to guess that there is a den of homos here FFS
?? I suspect hiding in the back passage ??
Just what is the term for a collection of homos?
Homogenous.
A buggeration of homos?
The House of Commons?
A cornucopia perhaps?
A daisy chain.
The Tory party
Kevan Jones is just a spiteful little shit. He was on the DailPolitics trying to score party political points. What a party labour have become, innuendo, spite, spin, denial. Just when you think labour won’t sink any lower they do.
Dont worry, guido is joining in as well.
Awww bless, Billy’s upset ‘cos peeps don’t like the gayers.
It’s how they busy themselves in the absence of having any actual ideas or policies.
So all of labour must be gay then, based on having no policies or ideas.
Kevan Jones is a fine one to accuse Fox of being in denial. When a Newcastle counciller he was widely thought to be a shirt lifting turd burglar with a keen interest in musical theatre but never admitted it. He was a spiteful little shit then as well.
One of my Duchesses said to me this morning
If he walks like a duck, talks like a duck, apologises like a duck and smiles like a duck, then you can bet the ranch he is a Duckie…
and if he walks like a Perv, talks like a Perv. apologises like a Perv and smiles like a Perv, you can bet your bottom dollar he is a Perv.
The Coalition’s new theme song (to the tune of the Eton Boating Song)
Swing swing together,
With your bodies between your knees,
Swing swing together,
We are all knob jockey-ees…
Surely it should be “Play up ! Play Up ! And play the dame ?”
Say what you mean Kevan? OK, you’re a vicious old queen who’s spent most of his political life up Gordon Browns rectum.
We are putting fifteen detectives and 10 private investigators on this one Guido
You seem to have discovered sensational here
This is funny as well
From Kevan Jones website
“Kevan’s Biography
Kevan Jones is the Labour MP for North Durham.
Born in Nottinghamshire in 1964, son of a miner, he went to comprehensive school in Worksop and graduated in government and public policy at Newcastle Polytechnic and put down strong roots in the North East.
Kevan was parliamentary assistant to Nick Brown MP for four years, then political officer for the GMB, rising to be regional organiser and finally senior national organiser in 1999.”
Badgers ?
The “GMB” is short for Gang Members Bang, I suppose..
Is he married? Not that it makes much difference.
So he never had a real job then
David Blunkett was forced to resign over similar allegations.
He tried to tough it out, and almost succeeded.
But once the revelations that he was failing to register his many interests that would benefit form government contracts kept coming, even Teflon said he must go. The main charge was,
Blunkett’s political opponents claimed that a conflict of interest was created by him having been director of and holding shares in a company proposing to bid for government contracts to provide paternity tests to the Child Support Agency – part of the Department for Work and Pensions, of which he was Secretary of State.
The good news for Liam is that this was Blunkett’s second resignation.
The ruling seems to be this.
Labour – 1st offence – nothing
2nd offence – apology {possibly pay some money back, wave a cheque, cry in parliament}
3rd offence -resignation for three or four weeks.
4th offence – - resignation for a year or two. Top job in EU in the meantime.
5th offence – out.
Tory and lib/dem is the same except 1+2+3 may all be treated as 4, even for a first offence.
5th offence : Stumped
The BBC hasn’t had so much fun exhibiting “faux-outrage” since they got all worked up over Andy C…….this will fill their news broadcasts for the next two weeks unless Fox goes
Three strikes and your out.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1501133/Camerons-bandwagon-rolls-on-into-the-country.html
Interviewed in London’s Evening Standard, Dr Fox, 44, was questioned about rumours that he had a gay past.
He said his engagement in June to Jesme Baird, a fellow doctor, should silence any gossip.
“I know some people use smears and I have heard them for years.
“They’d say ‘Why are you not married?’ You must be a wild man or gay’ or whatever.
“Well, I’m getting married in December and I’m perfectly happy with my private life,” Dr Fox said.
Lol, Daily Mash & Torchwood plus Sky defence correspondent saying he is “not normal” any more evidence needed that we are all going to hell on a handcart?.
No
But don’t forget you will need the handcart to transport all that worthless Mervyn printed cash to buy a pint, soon…
Doctor Faustus springs to mind (that covers the lot of them).
Fox will either be sacked or forced to resign. There is no other possible outcome, and quite rightly so. Cameron, it seems, still doesn’t get it. The longer this drags on, the more Cameron and the Tories will be damaged.
Cameron is playing a long game. fox is of the tory right and a potential future tory leader.
cameron needs for the story to so engulf fox that there is no other option than for him to resign. it does seem that the story is going that way .
better for cameron and his relationship with his own tory right, if fox is forced to resign, rather than cameron is forced to sack him.
it grieves me though that politicians of all colours these days have no honour or integrity any longer and don’t resign when they should.
Fucking Hell. Gordons’s gorn orf to Abu Dhabi to tell a conference how the world’s economy should be run.
And there was me thinking that MPs are supposed to go back to work today. I trust he will not be drawing his MPs salary this week.
http://gulfnews.com/business/economy/gordon-brown-global-economy-at-historic-juncture-1.889187
Can we ask them to keep him?
Exactly.
We have no issue with Gordon going abroad.
Its the coming back that’s the problem.
The working class can kiss my @rse,
I’m jetting out, sitting in First Class.
perhaps he’s gone out to lecture about good people management skills because he was better at that (++laugh++) than he ever was at economic management!
frankly anyone that pays good money to listen to him has to be an idiot of the highest order.
I used to run an agency for escorts
But demand is so high that I now supply beards
Roaring trade I can tell you…
What if he is gay? So what. Good luck to him. I simply dont care.
It could then be that Werrity accompanying him was just like taking his spouse along. Again, so what?
What really seems to shock Labour is a Defence Secretary doing his job AND supporting UK industry. How shocking for the likes of poor Sally Bercow who would rather see 3000 British workers out of jobs than sell missiles and nasty nasty guns.
His wife is going to be a tad upset. Then there is the trivial matter of getting the Taxpayer to pay your “lovers’” lifestyle and business interests
No Cynic you miss the point.
fox allowed werrity , who had no govt connection, to go on his ministerial trips and use the ministers contacts to make profits for his company. fox was a shareholder in werrity’s company so was also making profits out of werrity’s unethical activities.
yes fox has been a good minister of defence, our first for years, and it is a tragedy this has happened. But it smells to high heaven and any honorable minister would have resigned by now. No-one is indispensible and they’ll find another good minister of defence, but fox must go!
I couldn’t give a fig what his sexuality is… Lets step away from that for a second:
Extra marital affairs are considered ‘bad’ for politicians, whatever form they may take. Again, don’t really care about this. Shouldn’t really be a career ender.
Dragging your partner along on taxpayer funded trips is par for the course. Extra marital partner a little more naughty. But probably not career ending. The way I see it – whether partner or extra marital partner, the taxpayer picks up the same costs…
Letting them masquarade as an ‘offical’ to hock their business interests is very naughty!
Having shares in said business interests is downright crooked.
That’s what I’m pissed off about. The crux of it is whether he knew what his friend was doing?
There’s the added dimension that being embarassed about being ‘secretly gay’ whilst a married minister of the crown is a security risk. It does leave you open to blackmail…
These accusations being levelled against Liam Fox are an absolute disgrace. He’s as red-blooded a man as any I’ve ever come across. If Liam is homosexual, then so am I.
I can’t wait to get back in the cabinet and sit between William and Liam.
Come on Guido, you have to admit there is a certain whiff of Profumo here
Profumo is Italian for perfume. I recommend Giorgio Armani Acqua di Gioia.
Surely it must be illegal? (not the arse-banditry but the being a shareholder in your ‘mates’ firm and then taking him away on taxpayers money to further his business interests)
Five years I’d have thought it should be.
“He has our full support” ha ha ha
Bored of all this Fux stuff, now – all speculation, no facts.
More amusingly, Old Holborn’s latest invitation (and accompanying vid from GuyNews) is amusing:
http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2011/10/november-5th-walk-westminster.html
Stating the obvious here, but this whole business only makes sense if Werritty is Fox’s long-term homosexual lover. It seems here like we have another ‘Law’ situation, in that there might not actually have been no real harm (breach of procedures etc.) done, but the more Fox hides this from the public the more he unnecessarily ‘incriminates’ himself. Or maybe he is both corrupt and a homosexual?
Pretty sad to see that Liebour rats on the sinking liebour ship attempt to magic some lifeboats out of thin air by starting up a witch Hunt/Ed Silly Band wagon to Out Liam Fox.
Ironic when you think that he is the only Defence Secretary in the last 15 years to help win a war, but when compared to one of his predecessors, Mr Corrupt himself, dodgy money bags himself the Right Honorable Geoff Hoon MP, a man who made the mafia look like angelic teletubbies, that this witch hunt just smacks of desperation.
yet stone the crows, out down from his Holy than thou perch should come Mr Honest, Chris Bryant, a man who has dealt with his own many witch Hunts, either over his underpants, outing as being gay, flipping his houses expenses scandal which the tax payer funded or hacking….a so called man you thought would be a bit more humble when seeing another person going through such stuff…….
alas no…..Chris Bryant MP picked up the lighted torch and his pitch fork and decided to join the lefty mob in its witch hunt of another MP, well, with less evidence than they sent our brave troops on an illegal war….which by the way we couldnt win with that muppet Hoon/Liebour in charge!
Bryant, like Hoon…just a sad pathetic little man with a chip on his shoulder….a chip paid for and flipped by the public!
Politics, an ironic and dirty business….especially to those who should no better.
Hoon, Bryant, SillyBand and Liebour…..Karma…what Goes around comes around…so watch your backs!
But two fraudulent homosexuals don’t make a straight!
Peter Cook at his best – player of the pink oboe; pricelss
As a translator of lallans I can confirm that English for Jesme Baird is Jizz my beard.
I am not sure what this adds to the debate however.
There is a rumour doing the rounds that the Guardian have been sitting on some rather saucy details about Werritty and Fox since last Thursday, with the editor believing that Fox’s position is untenable without the need for the full picture being disclosed.
Alternatively we are watching one of those glorious moments where the Graun’s editor finds himself in a position to well and truly put the boot into one of the Thatcher-worshipping, baby-eating spawn-of-Satan but can’t because to do so would require him to abandon his right on, pc credentials.
My guess is the editor is waiting for one of the “naughty boys” to open the closet door at which point he can join in the mass vilification believing himself to have clean hands.