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Ken let the cat out of the bag about Ed on 10 o’Clock Live last night:
“He is genuinely a socialist. And that is why I am delighted we finally got one because we haven’t had one for some time leading the Labour Party.”
Private Eye says:
Exclusive: Guidogram going out shortly.
I think he should resign over dodgy advisor.
I appreciate your point Billy, but after the last shower of shite [Leiber] who never apologised because, apparently they never did anything wrong I think he may be over the worst.
To be honest Billy, I would prefer Huhne to be publically disembowelled, as he truly is a nasty piece of work.
Hope you’re OK by the way.
Hiya Rats.
Yeah i am ok, hope you are?
On Fox and labour
I did expect this government to be a improvement in all areas on labour , standards as well, When David Laws resigned when those allegations come out i appluaded it (Tho what the CPS are doing about no-one knows), But since then we have seen Hunt and now Fox abuse the office of which they are in charge.
I’m fine thanks Billy, and I agree with every word you’ve said.
I suppose we’re going to have to choose between the lesser of two evils.
Or just withhold the vote when the election comes around?
Ps you can now follow me on twitter
who the fuck showed billy how to tweet!!
Soon there will be no escape!
Seems that if one side do it, its OK for the others too? Seems like the expenses scandal all over again.
When will these f**kers understand that they are elected by the people to do a job for the people – not for their mates or for financial advantage.
Election now.
Welcome to the career politicians ?
Could not agree more Gerrymandering. It is sickening to see the blind Politically biased behaviour in the House. Every Tory defending him every Labour speaker attacking him. Worse is the play ground behaviour where they say you were worse than we are, or you started it.
The fact is that they are, with few exceptions, a complete bunch of tossers. They use Party Politics to defend themselves because Tory and Labour trolls will forever condone their own Party when it is seen that the Party rather than the individual is under attack.
While people on here argue over Bliar and Brown and Cameron and Huhne and Fox etc. etc. They are ALL laughing their way through the ‘storm’.
They are their own judges and Jury. They work to their own rules. None of the will ever do anything to spoil that. Cameron could, if he wanted, blow Bliar right out of the water and into the Hague, he has the power and the information is there. Will he? Never.
They are laughing at us.
So where did this document come from? Looks planted by Fox to me… and thus blog is usually so full of criticism for Peston and planted info. Total set up.
Do you want Consecratives to follow the low standard (as per you) set by Labour?
Pathetic!
Just because Labour are scum you think it’s OK for the Tories to be scum.
The Labour, Liberal and Conservative Parties are bought and paid for. They do not represent Britain, the are Bilderbanker scum.
I don’t think it is OK at all, anon. It’s a fucking disgrace. But I dont want to hear about it from lefties, who depraved British politics in unprecedented ways for 13 years.
Lobbying costs money.
Any lobbying adds to the bottom line that the taxpayer eventually has to pay.
Its time to stop this wasteful practice.
If companies cannot sell their goods and services without lobbying, then they do not have a good product.
If purchasers of goods and services cannot identify the best value for money without lobbyists, then they are not doing their job.
Sounds like you’re making a case against most marketing and advertising too.
No marketing and advertising performs a valuable function. Whilst the luvvies are attending air kissing courses they cannot be doing damage elsewhere.
Lobbying becomes marketing!
The brown envelopers speak.
In a free market economy, except for mass popular campaigns, lobbying politicians would be useless.
However we do not have free market capitalism, we have a mixture of crony capitalism, corporatism, private monopoly service providers and rigged markets. In such environments lobbying is essentially about self enrichment for all parties, against the public interest.
Like a closed shop is essential for corrupt union power, rigged markets are essential to hide large scale theft from taxpayers and grossly distorted market prices.
That’s why the cosy relationship thrives and consumers are repeatedly screwed.
+1 Says it all, Yoo Hoo.
Billy,you need to understand that “Foxgate ” is a useful diversion to help the proles forget that the CPS have not taken action in the matter of Huhne & the alleged criminal offence.If they can keep these situations running then he may well escape appearing in Court.
Tallyho
Prime source !!
Take a hint and fuck off!
It is now clear that not one MP is fit for purpose.
A plauge on all houses and parties, This parliament no longer has my support.
I also think the media and bloggers need to look at themselves and the way this has been reported, over the last 24 hours the focus has switched from the dodgy advisor and inappropete meetings to slurs and smears with a touch of innuendo over his sexuallity, Does this mean that Homosexuals have to held to different standard to hetrosexuals or is it just a bit of gay bashing?
On the contrary, homosexual miscreants benefit from politically correct sensitivities and get an easy ride, if you will pardon the expression. David Laws is still at liberty, after all.
The issue is more about lying and hypocrisy than homosexuality. As Paddy Pantsdown proved, a politicians credibility can be preserved or improved if he admits the truth early. Fox’s problem is he has a track record of opposing gay legislation (hypocrisy) and is lying (at least by omission) over his relationship with Werritty. I would have no problem if he came clean.
The important thing is can any of them organise a piss up in a brewery?, it they ever manage that, well after a few drinks who knows about the other.
This going to be a really long and dull drawn out process.
I see Guido has predicted he will survive. I wonder who his replacement will be?
Bloody hell. Given Guido’s track record that is like being a football manager given a vote of confidence by Ken Bates.
What a dull tribalist collective drone you are Jimmy.
Not once when Liebore were in power did you ever call for any of their absolute wrong doings to be dealt with by the Minister resigning.
From 2 million dead foreignors via your “ethcial foreign policy” to Lord Prescott shagging civil servants – not once in the hundreds of crimes & misdemeanours of New Labour did you ever hold them to account or distance yourself from their crimes & misdemeanours..
And you used to be funny.
I don’t think Ministers resigning is a panacea. Unless the Minister is either incompetent or a crook it’s better to learn from mistakes then to throw someone under a bus. I’ve not called for Fox to go. I think he will though for the simple reason that he has become an object of ridicule, and no-one really survives that. It’s not fair, but of course if life were fair there wouldn’t be a conservative party.
Jimmy, Ed Militwit was an object of ridicule well before he became Leader of the Labour Party. That ridicule has only increased in the meantime. No sign of him resigning. Are you saying Red Ed should go?
Yes. Fortunately for you he won’t.
Bit different when it’s the person who does the sacking that’s the object of ridicule…
Can think of plenty of situations my boss has done stupid shit that would have got any of us up on a misconduct charge at a minimum, only to see him sweep it under the carpet.
More to the point is the relationship between this dodgy businessman Boulter and the Labour Party. How much did he give them and what did he expect in return?
On the face of it this looks like payment for a smear campaign by Labour in collaboration with the Guardian/BBC axis. Don’t forget that Boulter is involved in court case where £30,000,000 is at stake. Fox and Werrity are lined up to give evidence against Boulter so any mud that sticks to the pair of them could damage their credibilty as witnesses. Labour would do it just to create mischief for the government but they’ll always accept a bung as a bonus.
Now Boulter’s relationship with Labour and the bung he gave them have been made public their fox (pardon the pun) appears to have been well and truly shot.
Nothing to do with us. We’re just sitting here with our popcorn watching the show.
On this occasion, I agree with Mr Fawkes and have added my strong support fro Liam in the local press:
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/east-hampshire/portsmouth_mp_backs_under_fire_defence_secretary_1_3136863
I hope he does the same for me in Katya’s forthcoming trial.
I see from the link, Handycock, that your constituents in Portsmouth have got you well weighed up- uneducated, can’t spell, devious, self serving and corrupt. Although to give you the benefit of the doubt, there is no mention of your being a pervert. Well everyone on this political blog thinks that you are. Are you shameless? When are you going to resign?
back on form jimmy
I don’t care if Liam Fox is gay, sad or just feckin miserable. All I heard off Leiber this afternoon was smears and inuendo. However, I did enjoy Fox’s come-back to Jim Murphy about bl@ck mail and his comments regarding the dirty deeds covered up by Leiber.
Guido, please can you look into what Fox said to see what can be found out about Leiber’s dirty laundry?
Great point. It’s what labour don’t say that needs to be investigated. Labour are truly stupid beyond belief.
I think you do need a doctor dear. Labour are shit without power. Fox is a shit with power. That is why he needs to be dealt with first.
Labour and all forms of socialism are shit, period.
Unless anything further comes out regardin g this or the report from Cabinet/Permanent Secretray is detrimental(unlikely as these reports tend to be ambiguous leaving it to the sitting PM decision) then I judge that by guaging the response of the Tory backbenches Fox is safe and secure in his job and Cameron will not want to cut him loose as a possible focal point for the right wing of the Tory Party on the backbenches
The faux-outrage of Labour can be largely dismissed as opportunism and won’t affect Fox’s position.Likewise unless the media can come up with much better than they have or can locate the so-called “smoking bullet”(if there is one)then ditto
what about the genuine outrage felt by everybody else for fucks sake?
so long as he has the support of his fellow MP’s it’s all hunky dory is it?
more of the same shit, this time it’s Tories giving their own politicians a free pass to (at the very least) display incredibly poor judgement whilst in one of the most powerful ministerial jobs there is; the last person you want a hint of impropriety about it is the Defence secretary and yet all too many people here and elsewhere seem to want to do is divert attention away from this incompetent by banging on about NuLabours many and varied fuck ups. As fun as that might be it doesn’t excuse this prick from his many and varied misdeeds.
If (as Guido suggests) the Guardian does have something fatal lined up all this bluster from the Tory front and back benches will totally blow up in their faces, leaving them all tainted. Cheering support of the kind he was given during defence questions is not a good look if he’s out of a job by the weekend.
Could not agree more non-beliver you are spot on. The guy has fucked up and should go. That he doesn’t because
a) his Tory chums still love him
b) Labour are just biased bullies
c) Cameron is scared of where he might end up
d) there needs to be a smoking gun
is all total bollocks. He should go because he has behaved appalingly either on purpose or because he is a complete fucking idiot.
He wont because MPs have an understanding that they can get away with anything. If he were any further down the MOD his desk would have been cleared by now.
No reason for Fox to do a runner…..I know I wouldn’t dream of it.
It’s a matter of principle…..never leave a good earner, without a better one lined up.
Stronzo!
So the Fox is angelic it would seem, nothing wrong here, time to move on.
If this is all there is to this then we must simply assume that Fox really really needs Werritty to be constantly with him like a wife. And with whom he can make money through a clever ‘now-you-see-me-now-you-don’t’ ambiguity. The very best Fox could do is come ‘clean’ about his homosexuality. It is afterall one of the stated war aims of NATO; to protect homosexuals internationally.
Surely there’s economic rationale for this. Did anyone ask if they were saving money by sharing a room a la Hague? There should be points rewarded for that.
Fox and Werrity live together FFS, what do you want a diagram?
When is Hoon going
I would much prefer that BBC radio do not constantly refer to Werritty as Fox’s ‘best man’! Just because he was his best man doesn’t mean that they are not always up to each other’s hilts. How about ‘parter’, ‘friend’, ‘lover’, ‘buddy’…?
Gay marriage, it’s now a Tory thing.
Dodgy Dave and the overseas aid.
Overseas aid…does that come under Liebour and Bliar giving Gadaffi billions worth of arms whilst our boys shopped in Lidl for their weapons!
T w at.
Calm down dear! They’re all fraudulent homosexuals.
Correction: Homosexual fraudsters.
Is there an MP who isn’t a bender?
Open Letter to Chris Bryant and the other corrupt Liebour MP’s (thats most of them past and present…and yes, that means you Geoff Hoon, Tony Bliar, Two Jags, Gay Gordon, Mandeslime and special advisor Ally campbell)….
Pretty sad to see the Liebour rats on the sinking liebour ship attempt to magic some lifeboats out of thin air by starting up a witch Hunt/Ed Silly Band wagon to Out Liam Fox.
Ironic when you think that he is the only Defence Secretary in the last 15 years to help win a war, but when compared to one of his predecessors, Mr Corrupt himself, dodgy money bags himself the Right Honorable Geoff Hoon MP, a man who made the mafia look like angelic teletubbies, that this witch hunt just smacks of desperation.
yet stone the crows, out down from his Holy than thou perch should come Mr Honest, Chris Bryant, a man who has dealt with his own many witch Hunts, either over his underpants, outing as being gay, flipping his houses expenses scandal which the tax payer funded or hacking….a so called man you thought would be a bit more humble when seeing another person going through such stuff…….
alas no…..Chris Bryant MP picked up the lighted torch and his pitch fork and decided to join the lefty mob in its witch hunt of another MP, well, with less evidence than they sent our brave troops on an illegal war….which by the way we couldnt win with that muppet Hoon/Liebour in charge!
Bryant, like Hoon…just a sad pathetic little man with a chip on his shoulder….a chip paid for and flipped by the public!
Politics, an ironic and dirty business….especially to those who should no better.
Hoon, Bryant, SillyBand and Liebour…..Karma…what Goes around comes around…so watch your backs…di deep enough and you will exposed even more than Fox just did in his statement!
Doh!
TLDR
That’s an awful lot of waffle to try and distract attention away from the fact that Liam Fox is an incompetent twat with an overly close and conflicting relationship with his ‘best man’
NuLabour were corrupt and incompetent that much we know; does that give Dr Fox the right to be so?
moronic illogical twaddle
Actually, I thought that was quite brilliantly put.
fucking dumb douche bag
Alan Duncan did the smart thing.
So, some mental terrorist riddles with bullets Fox and any civil servants with him in Dubai as a result of him giving his diary details to his pal who just so happens to have arranged a chance meeting with unnamed people dealing in arms … and the Secretary of State doesnt think he compromised national security at all?
Your apology is all well and good, Mr Fox .. now take responsibility for your position in one of the high offices of State and resign. Show some honour.
Fine but nowhere in that report does she talk about whether she has ascertained if liam fox was and is a shareholder of werrity’s companies and whether she is investigating if werrity has used fox first for his his opposition health minister contacts and now his ministerial mod contacts to benefit those companies.
If they are not going to specifically investigate this angle of those 40 visits werrity carried out with fox then this is essentialy a whitewash.
Sniggers. How do you sponging hoons?
Personally, I rather hoped that we would see far fewer of these brogueing shoulder-chipped caber tossers from Scotland, especially the ones with dodgy personal liaisons and their fingers in the till.
God knows we had enough with Blair, Brown, “Unspeakable” Martin and all the other tribes of Caledonia, without having this spud-faced Jock to put up with.
I just can’t quite see a Profumo style Movie cover with Werrity stradling a chair.
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2025298944/tt0098260
It would drive the free masons wild!!!
has mr fox broken the ministerial code of conduct? If so what are the penalties for breaking this code?
is it just a slap on the wrist and being told not to do it again?
No, if your in Liebour….you just get promoted to the Lords!
***see Former Liebour crooks, Lords mandeslime and Prescott as reference!**
Very good, but this fellow is in charge of our soldiers. The very soldiers you bitterly regret having to shop in Lidl for their weapons. Make your mind up please!!!
what does mr werritty do for a living?
i dont see why he would need to go abroad to see mr fox so often. Ive got friends but i dont go abroad every time they go abroad. I accept that if they go abroad i will have to wait for them to get back before we can meet up
if i went abroad and someone i knew also went to the same place – i would think they were more of a stalker than a friend
do you think mr fox minded mr werrity trailing him across the planet?
i think this fox will die of mange rather than a quick bite to the back of the neck
Whitewash by the tanker load is being applied on BBC by Nick Bo??? for the foxy one, jeez I thought after 13years of Liebour we were getting some honesty back, I was wrong.
40 times ? wow
i wish i was getting it that often
I’ll give his number.
That’s an awful lot of KY.
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ooopps!
wonder who provided the electronic logo for the business cards and the authority to use it – maybe the blue tories use the same printer as Devine’s red tories – wonder who paid for it, you and I presumably
‘The question I aways ask of my ministers is, “Is he the sort of person who can get await with it?”‘
wonder how Fox feels about “dont ask dont tell”