September 30th, 2011

Indy’s Independence Whacked

Have you noticed anything different about the Indy in the last couple of days?

Well it seems that the paper has finally conceded that it is politically biased and susceptible to proprietorial influence. Given Evgeny Lebedev “speaks regularly” to the editor Chris Blackhurst, it was only a matter of time before the paper would have to quietly drop their lofty pretensions…

UPDATE: Co-conspirators point out that the change coincided with the arrival of Chris Blackhurst in the editor’s chair.


  1. 1
    Evil Landlord says:

    I’ve beaten Billy to be the first to comment

  2. 2
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Yeah but they still employ Hari.

  3. 3
    Joss Ayinglike says:

    Yes, I’ve noticed that it’s easier to flush it these days. Cheaper paper ??

  4. 4
    Tuscan Tony says:

    Fawkes, you really should include a strapline below your own fine organ’s masthead:

    “Favourable Reporting in Exchange for Pizza since 2004″

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    So should it change its name then?

    Anyway, nothing can be independent anyway, Unless it is non human but even then it would be run by humans which are not independent.

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    Josiah Bartlett says:

    Shouldn’t they go the whole hog and change the title? How about “The Lebedev”?

  7. 7
    Vaz is a twat says:

    Its a lefty rag, the only people who didn’t acknowledge this were twats

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    hacked off says:

    In de pen dented

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    Public Sector Parasite with enormous gold-plated pension & 5 hour working week says:

    No surprises there then, what about hacking?

  10. 10
    What a plonker. says:

    It has always been a crappy left wing propaganda rag . So why admit it only now?

  11. 11
    Vaz is a twat says:

    ““Favourable Reporting in Exchange for Pizza since 2004″


    “Favourable Reporting in Exchange for decent Claret since 2004″

  12. 12
    yeah, right.. says:

    Who cares? No-one reads it. I regularly see stacks of the Indy in business hotels, free of course, yet they can’t give them away.

  13. 13

    Even in the waiting room of the dentist its unappealing.

    A choice between The Indy, The St Crombie pensioners gazette and a leaflet on the dangers of sugar acid to enamel results in a coin toss.

  14. 14
    sick of everything, ever says:

    Maybe they just want to save on ink.

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    Tuscan Tony says:

    If by “decent” you mean “large scoops of”, then yes. One suspects the quality control dial is turned very low on the long Friday lunch.

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    Geoff, England says:

    Mazel tov, as they probably don’t say in Tehran.

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    Sir William Waad says:

    “Evgeny Lebedev’s “speaks regularly” to the editor Chris Blackhurst, it was only a matter of time before the paper would have to quietly drop their lofty pretensions…”

    There’s an intrusive apostrophe and S after Lebedev and a comma-splice after ‘Blackhurst’. The split infinitive is OK, though, because if you put ‘quietly’ anywhere else it would not read as well.

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    Sir William Waad says:

    And Shana Tova to you.

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    sick of everything, ever says:

    I did once. They fiddled with the space-time continuum until one of Billy’s gimps mysteriously appeared above me. I did chuckle, though.

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    Engineer says:

    The Independentish.

  21. 21
    Pan T Pad says:

    The Incontinent

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    yeah, right.. says:

    Completely OT, but it appears that St George of Monbiot enjoys the very tax efficient status of self employment, and yet only appears to have one significant client, GMG.

    Shouldn’t he go on the books, pay PAYE/NIC and GMG pay employers NICs?

    Or is that sort of thing just for the little people?

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Will anyone notice when its gone?

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    bergen says:

    It’s to differentiate it from a newspaper formerly of that name.It is now found with the fiction.

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:,21631,18908_7197767,00.html

    Something for Celtic fans.

  27. 27
    Splooge says:

    Of course I haven’t noticed any difference!

    Who the f**k would actually want to read that godforsaken rag?

  28. 28
    Titford Hat says:

    The Indy is unreadable. There’s never anything of interest in it.
    The Grauniad is utterly unreadable and also humourless. Written by swivel-eyed numpties for swivel-eyed numpties.

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    annette curton says:

    I was wondering why they didn’t just go the whole hog and ditch the ludicrous title as well while they were at it.

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    codswallop says:

    Any outfit controlled by a KGB thug is bound to have one or two little “problems”. Ship the whole disgusting outfit to Moscow – it’s their spiritual home isn’t it?

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    Handyarse Wipeum Shit says:

    Too bloody true!

    You should see all the wonderful interviews he’s done over the next few years!

    I tells ya – that boy is a genius…

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    Sir William Waad says:

    No rag is an island
    Independent unto itself

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    Titford Hat says:

    I see one of our vibrant multiculturally-diverse citizens has gone down for eight months:

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    annette curton says:

    The Monthly Menopause… we’ll keep the red rag flying here!.

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    BBC Bias says:

    I see Toenails has been banging on about “the Tory press” again

    Oddly, he never seems to refer to rags like the Mirror as “the Labour press”…

    Strange, that…

  37. 37
    East European Hotel Staff says:

    Soft, strong and thoroughly absorbent…

  38. 38
    Mostly Annoyed says:


    Looks more like Shrek.

  39. 39
    Rick Nobinson says:

    Does anyone still read the Daily Mirror or the Guardian ??

  40. 40
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    So no whites involved at all?

  41. 41
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    Of course it was.

    It is also unreadable due to the horrible typefaces and layout.

  42. 42
    Old Tory Bigot says:


    The Independent is to the Guardian what C4 is to the BBC.

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    AC1 says:

    It’s more punchy.

  44. 44
    Dial 999 I have Brown dogshit on my shoe says:

    Time to ‘fess up and shame the devil.

  45. 45
    AC1 says:

    Statistically much less than our multi-culturally diverse riches.

  46. 46
    Bob Swinger says:

    No one reads it anyway

  47. 47
    Harriet Harman says:

    FFS Billy you twat, stop over-analysing

  48. 48
    Kieth Vaz says:

    Said the twat

  49. 49
    I've had enough says:

    Time for full and complete investigation.

  50. 50
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    andyjameshicks profile

    andyjameshicks RT @PeterMannionMP: Breaking: MP’s wife Christine Hemming found guilty of cat burglery. 5 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

  51. 51
    10 years of this pathetic exploitive shite going round in circles. says:

    Time these pathetic meddling get told where to go. Game over!

  52. 52
    Ah! Monika says:

    The Judge is White

  53. 53
    AC1 says:


    Keith is the correct spelling.

    Where’s your blog?

  54. 54
    Nostalgic says:

    It was actually pretty different and interesting for the first year or two, but then became as predictable as a Labour party press release.

  55. 55
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    EllieCumbo profile

    EllieCumbo By all accounts, Christine Hemming was only convicted by a whisker. 3 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

  56. 56
    Super Swally says:

    Celtic lost the league to Rangers on points ,apparently they just couldnt get enough.

  57. 57
    10 years of this pathetic exploitive shite going round in circles. says:

    Meddling Hoons. Go and fuck yourselves.

  58. 58
    All the fun of a lynching without the mess says:

    Is she having kittens?

  59. 59
    Sir William Waad says:

    Look, love, if you’re going to nick stuff, make it a few billion of taxpayers’ money and they’ll probably award you a damehood.

  60. 60
    Bogeyman says:

    Latest circulation figure for the Independent is 180,470. That means it is read by one in every 350 people and is only slightly higher than the circulation of The Beano.

  61. 61
    Wayne Rooney says:

    Somebody mention me?

  62. 62
    HandsomeDavid says:

    9 out of 10 dog owners could’nt care less.

  63. 63
    Bogeyman says:

    Yes, but Mirror readers are thick as pigshit. Guardian readers ARE pigshit.

  64. 64
    twat bingo says:

    In the culturally less diverse land of salford they were mainly white but arguably not English. Being from O’ver the water.

  65. 65
    Wikipedia says:

    Not as good as David Rose.

  66. 66
    twat bingo says:

    Guesswork! I don’t think you can tick that one off.

  67. 67
    Bumpf Industries says:

    More people keep the Beano after they have read it.

  68. 68
    AC1 says:

    Bet she cries, the pussy.

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    Afghanistan Banana Stand says:

    Few people notice it anyway

  71. 71
    Marmite says:

    I’ve never read it either OR that left wing rag the Graunud and I don’t intend to either. Oh, by the way, that stupid Limp Dum(John Hemmings) wife has been found guilty of stealing his mistress’s kitten – you couldn’t make it up could you?

  72. 72
    The Paragnostic says:

    I used to read the Indy when it first came out – their policy of not reporting any royal family stories sort of appealed. It was sort of OK, but not as good as the Telegraph for news content.

    I stopped buying it round about the time they employed the rotund faggot, plagiarist and noted warmist Yo! Fat Fairy!, as the idea of contributing to his pay packet didn’t appeal.

    That the Huhne should apparently keep his job after being found out so comprehensively really beggars belief. He must have something on Whittam-Smith, I suppose.

  73. 73
    Flim flam says:

    She was looking for ………….Dick…………….Whittington

    OK suit yourselves!

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    Free Market Prevails says:

    Just been past a blood transfusion session (What’s that all about, eh? As a taxpayer I am funding this socialist organisation, which then expects me to give them my blood free of charge!) and wondered whether the Independent could apply – would be the first fresh thing in it for yonks.

  76. 76
    joescotus says:

    what the fuck happened to thumbs?

  77. 77
    AC1 says:

    This would allow them to better identify outright lies, scams, hoaxes, selective half-truths, and mistakes, and better navigate the murkier waters of argument and opinion.

    If a marxist supports it, it’s one of the above.

  78. 78
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    Demos: –

    A bunch of left wing scumbags founded by the editor of Marxism Today that don’t happen to mention that fact in their ‘about’ page.

    Just look at their ‘advisors council’.

    And best of all they are of course a charity.

    Demos makes my piss boileth over.

  79. 79
    Old Blue Eyes says:

    Until it does Billy it is making the statement “don’t believe anything you read in this newspaper even the title is a lie”.

  80. 80
    The Golem says:

    A class publication the Beano.

  81. 81
    ReefKnot says:

    During the Iraq war, the Indy ran a negative front-page story about Iraq pretty much every day. When the Iraqis got their first ‘free’ vote, most newspapers ran with the story as a positive front page spread, except for the Indy – which had a front page devoted to…..hedgehogs. Twats.

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Not really, many on the right and laft were against Iraq, you could say it represented soe of those peoples view.

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    41 seconds ago: “Coming Up – Young Conservatives Sex Act Picture Sensation – more follows on the blog shortly…”

  85. 85
    Gooey Blob says:

    …or “The Labour media” (BBC, C4 news)

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    Free Market Con says:

    Just been past a blood transfusion session (What’s that all about, eh? As a taxpayer I am funding this Murdoch’s organisation, which doges most of its taxes, making it necessary for me to pay more. It’s okay though, because I’m the kind of schmuck who takes it up the arse from any boss.

  87. 87
    Old Blue Eyes says:

    At least she’s not a Tom.

  88. 88
    Andreas Whittam-Smith says:

    It is are you? asked the advertising

    It wasn’t are you?

  89. 89
    Gooey Blob says:

    The Beano has been going since the 1930s and is the last surviving weekly comic in the UK. The Independent won’t outlast it.

  90. 90
    Jack Dromey (Ms) says:

    The Dependent?

  91. 91

    Even in the waiting room of the dentist the indy doesn’t app#al.
    A choice between The Indy, The St Crombie pensioners gazette and a leaflet on the dangers of sugar acid on tooth enamel results in a coin toss.

  92. 92
    Jack Dromey (Ms) says:

    All disappeared up Billy’s arse.

  93. 93
    Jack Dromey (Ms) says:

    More likely the other party has something in him. From time to time.

  94. 94

    You can’t get the staff.

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    Bitter print of socialism says:

    In all fairness (not something the left indulges in) the Indy did start out as a newspaper. It only became a pompous, idiot-led self-opinionated propaganda tool later on.

    Still, once they did that shift they did it with all their might in a vain, and misguided, effort to out-Graun the Graun.

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    Aunt Mat says:

    To all those lower down the list:

    Nobody reads your comments.

  97. 97
    Bitter print of socialism says:

    Think of the trees it will save when it goes.

    Sorry, tree.

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    Bitter print of socialism says:

    The new Pravda, perhaps.

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    if the shoe fits says:

    Mother of one?

    Someone had that?

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    Isn’t that humourless cow who founded “Common Purpose” a member of Demos?

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    The London Branch of the KGB says:

    With your personal background in Eastern Europe fighting the murderous tyranny of communism

    We are surprised that it has taken you so long to realise that when we “own” something

    The employeees “obey”

  102. 102
    We'll keep the champers flying high says:

    I thought the beano was a Labour conference champagne party?

  103. 103
    The Paragnostic says:

    The summary of the publication contains the following:

    Censorship of the internet is neither necessary nor desirable; the task instead is to ensure that young people can make careful, skeptical and savvy judgments about the internet content they encounter.

    Let’s apply this logic to the authors of the report.

    Jamie Bartlett:

    Prior to working for Demos, Jamie was a research associate at the international humanitarian agency Islamic Relief and conducted field research in Pakistan and Bangladesh. Jamie holds Masters Degrees from the London School of Economics and the University of Oxford. Jamie is an expert in research methods, and speaks fluent French and good classical Arabic.

    Not a man whose background would recommend him as an adviser of our nation’s youth, I suggest.

    His co-author doesn’t inspire confidence either – a 2008 Cambridge History graduate who seems only ever to have worked as an intern since leaving university.

    My own critical faculties would suggest that information from these particular sources should be treated with extreme caution…

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    What an eternal disgrace says:

    What is even more surprising is the rapidity with which these oligarchs made billions (not millions).

    Their billions came from Russia, a country where there has never been or there is no Rule of Law.

    How does anyone in London or elsewehere in so-called civilised countries acceopct this flagrant rape of the People of Russia ?

    Where are all those who fight for human rights ?

    Where is the Guardian on this ?

  105. 105
    Bogeyman says:

    Indeed, a top class publication. But you won’t find it in schools as it’s full of evil stereotypes. You know, boys being boys, Dennis being a Menace, Minnie being a Minx…

    Haven’t seen a copy for ages but, looking at its website there seems to be a serious lack of ethnic diversity. In fact I’m going to complain to EHRC.

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    The Paragnostic says:

    “Where is the Guardian on this?”

    Offshore, and carefully structured to avoid tax?

  107. 107
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    To judge the Gruan on its pathetic circulation figures is to miss the point entirely.

    The Guardian is read by the left wing elite. People who actually have an incredible amount of influence, and set agendas.

    All the BBC elite read the Guardian, when they are not contributing to it. This is the state broadcaster and the Guardian is their in-house rag.

    Did anyone think it was some sort of coincidence that the likes of Toynbee and her chums get so mauch airtime (and indeed programmes) on the BBC?

    Is anyone surprised that BBC ‘talent’ (e.g. David Mitchell, Charlie Brooker) gets so many columns in the Graun?

    They might as well be the same organisation. The Graun would love is to all pay a ‘readership license fee’ to read anything at all – but only by the approved list of journalists of course.

  108. 108
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    We’ve noticed – quite frequently, actually.

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    Grumpy Old Man says:

    Doesn’t he write books for the remainder shelves as well?

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    Yeah, right.. says:

    He’s currently receiving some pin money from Penguin over a four year period. I doubt it would pass a HMRC test.

    I think that this desire to see other people pay more tax whilst arranging one’s affairs so that the tax paid is minimal should have a name.

    A Rusbidger?

  111. 111
    Kracky Kreme says:

    I’ve edited this into The Independent’s Wikipedia entry. Do i get a job and a journo ethics course in South America now?

  112. 112
    A Knight says:

    How many Marx out of ten then ?

  113. 113
    A Passing Aesthete says:

    Have you seen the pictures of this lumpy trio? Reminds me of the old saying:
    ‘Politics is just show business for ugly people.’ How true…

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    Engels Expects says:


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    Tax Consultant says:

    Rusbridging v – To exhort the peasantry to pay their taxes – while managing to avoid paying one’s own by various ruses.
    A Rusbridger n. See above

  116. 116
    Dr Kinsey says:

    What do you have on Ma Dromey? Got to be the only way you could pull…

  117. 117
    Arthur Bent says:

    The independence of the Independent is not the only thing that has been whacked. The owner of the Indy (Alexander Lebedev the father of Evgeny) is good at whacking too

  118. 118
    Saddo says:

    “To all those lower down the list: Nobody reads your comments.”

    I did!

  119. 119
    No Life says:

    Yup, me too

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    Sigh says:

    Yup; I, too, have been shafted in a similarly sneaky chronological con…

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    Handyarse Wipeum Shit says:

    Yeah, he’s bloody good as well!

    I should give both of them a pay rise.

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    Splooge says:


    Credit where credit’s due, the first couple of years were pretty good. They made a decent fist of it.

    It is, however, a staggeringly shite rag, these days

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    BBC Controller says:

    We like to think of ourselves as a noble EU version of TASS and the Graun as Pravda

  124. 124
    Splooge says:

    To be fair, she was caught, red-handed, culturally enriching her neighbourhood to an astonishing degree

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    Blunkett says:


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    Anonymous says:

    The Independent is The Guardian when it has forgotten to take its medication.

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    joescotus says:

    the indy is read by wankers too ashamed to admit they are closet guardianistas

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    dads for two aircraft carriers says:

    I have said this to you before Guido and you need to listen and pay heed, as does everyone who may read my paltry comment. Never ever ever underestimate the KGB. The f ing Indy is the most f ing stupid bunch of f wits ever. To be owned by a ‘former’ KGB spy and yet profess liberal values in Britain is so amazing that I need to go an lie down for the rest of my life.

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    Thumbs says:

    We were screwed.

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    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    very true

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    Divine Sarah says:

    Strikes me that Mr Monbiot presents a very modest target for attacks from far-right class warriors. I seem to remember him being described as a multi-millionaire fascist in this normally precise and tolerant site – what was all that about?
    Wouldn’t it be better to wait and see what other hacks earn and own before having a go at George? (see what I did there?)

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    Moonbats fly low says:


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    The Observer says:

    Should call it Pravda II but they cannot reach their heights.
    I am sure the title Daily Truth would fit the Lebedev ego.
    Blackhurst proved to be a busted flush on the Media Show with Steve Hewlett. Bet the circulation of the paper and his blood went down.

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